webber went to andrew sacks, dorm room, and that was the 1st threat that was made to andrew, the threatening you're in trouble. you're going to be charged with felonies. we have you on video and audio recordings, selling marijuana to 2 different, confidential informant. if you don't work with me, you're going to prison for 40 years. whoever said you can come to the law enforcement center and meet with me tomorrow. and you can work with me and i'll help make some of this. go away and make the punishment a lot less. but you can't tell anybody. you can't tell your parents. you can't tell your roommate. you can't tell your friends. you can't talk to an attorney. you just need to come and talk to me and for this to work, nobody can know about this. actually the max is 40 years in prison. 40.

no, obviously you're probably not going to get 40 years. but a good possibility that your, your personal time, if you know he's asserting his authority and giving andrew false information for the amount of marijuana that andrew sold to the 2 different confidential informants. there is no way that he would have gone to prison for that amount. but most likely with that at that level of the crime, you're looking at probation, maybe some community service. i can imagine one young andrew was thinking in his situation sitting with this guy who we saw was probably just going to be just an like a slap on the wrist meeting. like a don't let us catch you screwing up again. and then all the sudden this guy's like, yeah, you got to work with us or you're going to face 40 years will cross your whole life . if we have to you, i was like ah,

it was one of the 1st times i've actually seen the footage of happening and watched it happen. and able to see the body language and the reactions that take place between the individuals. and once you learn more of the background, you can understand why someone who had never really been in trouble and was only 20 and trying to get through college would be scared to death. last for years, do use buyers from either you or, you know, we're away or you have to buy marijuana from individuals or not. and upon how you do and so forth. you know, a lot of this can go away or you andro was under intense pressure and he was terrified of the consequences. most of the time they're looking for more than pot or key by using other marijuana. and,

and i think the contact intensifies and then i think they give him deadlines. you know, do more in just to people to you the, you know, the only low i, i think labor it was a bowie. and i think that his actions caused the death of andrew static. you can know when you check in, you can call the text message work just by your sending andrew a boy, he's still a boy. i mean, he isn't legal to have a beer in our state and you're going to send him after these drug lords. no, to me, that was the worst part about all this news blue from november of 2013 until may of 2014. there were 3, buys that, andrew dead under the direction of officer webber. ah

ah, after those 3 buys, webber still wanted one more. now that would have been sometime in early 2014 news news news. really there was very little communication from january to april. a had to way on. there are some research projects that have been done that talk about the psychology that goes along with becoming

a confidential informant. and the pressures that are emotionally put on someone that once an individual is approached and brought in to that situation, it will change them forever. moon, i don't know what was going on in anders mind. i just know that what he was probably being asked to do was to dive deeper. find someone else movie, don't don't trade with the charges. well, you've got to give me somebody data, you. ah, there was a point around april 15th that there was no more communication and that's a real red flag. you never know red flags name,

nothing. that's what's making this so difficult for us is law enforcement? no red flag? nothing. why wasn't jason webber in contact with vander sac every day? why didn't he know where he was at all times? and if, if andrew was not responding to officer webber, why didn't he bring a man bring the charges? because he wasn't doing what he'd been asked for this situation that go on from november of 2013 to may of 2014 is problematic about if you want me to try to get what you normally i want to know who jason, whatever worked for because somebody empowered him to lie to andrew. somebody empowered him to basically playoff andrew's worst fears. and that was simply

tonight's point of view topic. what is shameka, and are they to blame for the death of andrew sat there earlier this week, tammy, static andrews. mom blamed some good for her son's death assent just to be clear, stands for the south east multi county agency, narcotics task force. essentially. they could be perceived as a local drug and force agency down in richland county. simco operates as their own entity, with their own board of directors, and their own oversight. investigators have permission to be on the campus, but they don't have to notify the school about who they may be investigating. ah, one thing that we found really odd is that one of these sergeants at the campus police station was on the board of some cup. this review listed all the one drug task force, board member, and d as c as police sergeant steve helga sir. sergeant hogan son was on the some

keyboard. yeah. yes. ah, they should not have had that conflict of interest. a 3rd party should have been investigating what was going on if they knew who andrew was and what he was doing, they shouldn't have been investigating that. talk to me, i started in august and sitting there, why and why? when i talked with him, then we had a reporter. he just went to the college, walked in and tried talking to him, and he got the door slammed in his face and told to turn his camera off. mm, sure. i long as you own soccer, the sergeant. ah, there shoddy investigative work was terrible. but again,

it goes back to the fact of why are they letting some cub to sirs onto their campus, not knowing what they're doing. it's all money driven. the reason that some co exist is due to money from the federal government. they're dealing and small level crimes like marijuana buys, because it helps their numbers, the more arrests that they can make. the more charges that they can show, the more money they're going to get to keep going. so it's almost like a commissioned sales job at that point. asthma. my little brother was actually going to and yes, yes. at the same time as andrew and lived in the same dorm at the same time, there is no drug problem. and why pretend it's fabricated. i would say that that they're targeting people that they know are going to have a little bit a pot here and there, the numbers that they use, it's mostly marijuana live it's misdemeanor level. it tells you that

they've bastardize the war on drugs and federal funding for their own benefit. there's a purpose of federal funding. that's not the purpose of these standards. is to investigate is the dean, this male big organizations, dangerous organizations? philip chillers real to not be andrew side, actually this room with

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy. even foundation, let it be an arms race group is often very dramatic development only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successfully, very critical time time to sit down and talk the postal service deliver is a 155000000000 pieces of mail every year. presently, 40 percent of the world's mail right now the us postal service is in the fight of its life. everybody that is really bad financial shape now facing default. the postal service is a cash cow, and there was a way to pull money out of the postal service to put into the federal budget. there

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led to some with direct? what is true was his faith in the world corrupted. you need to descend, have join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. this is the videotape deposition of steve helga since taken with the plaintiff in the matter of john and tammy say, dec versus jason webber at all. raise your hand, your family, say that the testimony are about to give me the truth, the whole truth and i think that you do it. say your name. steven helmerson. morning officer webber. morning. we've never met prior to play heavily to the

family. wanted to bring a lawsuit against anyone that was responsible for the disappearance and death of andrew. where does the funding count for so there are 2 different grafts. are they provided with the statistical information that you put together as to the number of cases you're in? so i'm not at the time of the, the, the grant application of the statistics, common quarterly reports that go on, i burned j grabbed better website, and those are reported court. we were able to bring a lawsuit against jason webber for his involvement with some cut. the law suit is alleging negligence. so essentially, the, this handling of andrew as a confidential informant. also, we have alleged fraud and deceit. in other words, they misled andrew in getting involved in his role as confidential informant,

which we believe led to as deaf. mm. are there any other specific courses you can point be to that you've been or professors you've been trained on strictly confidential foreman off my have no one point your permanent ones. that part of the some of the program i saw on the board. yes. so for the time, the savage, what missing? you were still a board member of some yes. we were privy to cases that were operating but not who was doing was such as the c s. o there'd be a line across the sheet that would say in dfcs, in a case and what the drug was that they were working on. but that was, it was

a number system. we didn't know who people were, neither the agent nor the she so up until essentially 2016, the state college of science was involved in the task force. correct. when if ever, were you informed of controlled by as being performed on campus for which andrew sat, it was a target midday that he went missing or that night when he 1st made aware of that and it was acting as a confidential informant at that point. right. with them at that moment to pin prior to that on march 10, 2014 we sent andrew text that said,

are you still alive though? remember that bill? did you have any concerns about him? i i didn't. he didn't contact me or i haven't heard from him for while i didn't have any concerns. i just asked, you know, is just a peer to speech. april 17th, 2014. you gave a deadline of may 1 to complete another by correct why the may 1st deadline on because at that point he was on the question that he could be graduating from school and he will be leaving the walk in area and it would be difficult for him to complete what he needs to complete traveling back up or he's going to go there was may 1 andrew, i listen. i believe. so. i know who steve alderson as was he involved in andrew cedric handling so he would have never participated on our

deals. was he aware that the consent search was taking place? i honestly, i don't recall. sometimes we don't know if we only do jury different jurisdictions . sometimes we will notify you know, the sheriff of cheap please, or, you know, if it's on campus steve. typically these individuals all don't want to know what we're doing and stuff. and then steve's a big one for that. he's never really wanted to know what we're doing on campus. what is the extent of the relation ship between the santa and campus police now? no, i just don't, i don't know if they're even working on the campus or not anymore. dates could be and i would have any idea at all if you had known that andrew said it or any other student at the school science was acting as a confidential informant, or were the target of a buy from a confidential informant? would you have done anything different towards that student?

no, for this or mm hm. mm hm. mm. want them to tell me exactly what they were doing with andrew up until that point, if they're, if they had him under so much pressure that he actually did commit suicide. i want, i want to know, i want to know what they were doing with them. the truth and like the

truth. mm. campus. police asked me if i had a gun missing and they got that and who might had why and so that he i checked my guns and yep, there was a crystal missing from the from the garage with the ran through my mind, kathy that didn't ah, for him to do it without leaving a note or something, letting us a single bye to us. i do not believe that her 2nd. mm

. the question though, we may never have truthfully answered. mm. and the only person that might know what really happened is officer webber doing. it might oh, okay. and then now the thing is saying it was he being asked by something more the marijuana was he being asked to go to people that he didn't really know. and never interacted with to buy whether was part or something else. lou, i take it. he wasn't, i enzyme hot. i wouldn't think that that would lead to a bullet. but whatever was i think that he went and met up with somebody bigger and better than any been he had expected or that he trapped to not do scared and he ended up in lieu i have

a lot of people who talk to me about my involvement with the sad family in the, in the people that support the static family don't really care whether he was murdered or whether he took his own life. i know that's a bad thing to say, but they don't really care because what they care about is that he was put in a position where it's one of those 2 thanks. what happened in the end, the narrative that got us to the end, we should never have happened. so while i believe that andrew was murdered, i don't think it should take away from the fact that if in fact he did commit suicide, that was not any saying that andrew did without somebody pushing him towards lou. we adore having those guys around quickly. and i value the fact that they had that

much respect to come and in spend time with us because we get to watch them grow. we're not sure really what to do with the farm. we wanted to keep it in the name by that's going to be pretty hard to do. now. i was expanding at the time of and her staff is just was renting some more pastor and i was going to expand my heard building it up for for his future and stuff. and after his death, i've basically just lost all my ambition to don't have any will anymore me . i

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