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a smell for him and he'll come out and give him his ma'am. just the funniest people know what family case i feel coming up. i just rather mail or something like that. they get things like on like their medicine, neck tracks. you know? so, you know, when that's coming and they know sometimes we get special attention about on the job when you get to that point. so it's not even like a job. you know, it's just like a normal family thing that you're dealing with a letter on your door. it will be handled to a spot, thousands of miles away in the most remote corner of the united states. a really great, i mean i don't live in the world because that's a miracle right?
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there takes 3 or 4 of us to get my normal cup of coffee. if we get this letter anywhere in the world and you trust it's going to go, that postal service delivers a $155000000000.00 pieces of mail every year. approximately 40 percent of the world's name. you can actually see the people that you're touching and i'm a people person, so it gives me a good feeling when we come here or the news, we come here for our mail for the kids to play. i mean, this is just kind of our social point of them. it's a post office and you know, the postmaster, if there are clerks there, you know them, you know, they're there to serve. you good,
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gather. they get to talk about things that are happening and what they need to get involved in can be all it takes. it can be a bond issue. it can be that if there's a forest fire 2 miles down the road coming year away, each place is composed of different people on every. everybody's got a story to tell people that post office is kind of a window on the world to look forward to it. it's a nice interval. hi jack. how are things in a little bit of information about the neighborhood and the community take did pick a real life spice in the community. the 1st thing i learned when i came to the postal service was free work, the sanctity of the male. i'm jay and this is my dad right now where our front
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a maple crush station in maplewood, new jersey. my job was box car, window choir, and i spent many wonderful years here taking care of beautiful customers. he always had a lot to say about his job at the post office. i felt a feeling of accomplishment. every day i came home from work. a lot of the added to those that work here. get very hard make if you did it. i like to get it i like to help people and i care about them and i want to give them the best service and most knowledgeable service that i put in that you're hearing the stories for 27 years and watching what he went through to keep his job, i set out to uncover if what happened to him was happening everywhere with
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ah, i love my job when i went to work post office. it was a tough job. a lot of the jobs were playing out around here. i worked in the text to land street, and the meal i was working at was close in dia. when i started at the post office, i was 27 years old with 2 children. and i had 3 jobs working at the mall. they were on minimum wage job and there's no way i could support my children. i couldn't find about a job. the money was great hours, and it was just a great place to work. but as time window a, i had never been messed with my whole career staff that are big to work with so
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many years, almost like they'd have a usefulness out of me and it was time for me to go don't talk to nobody deliver to mail. you can cut the lawns, climb over, somebody bush's they would, they actually call you, they're trying to get you in man, if any time get you to break safety measures with or negate my channels pumping in my head was about to fall like a mutual distress. you know that the poor you don't trust the supervisor or manager don't trust the workers, the supervisor we awards on your on one side or on the other. the system right now is supposed to service operates. it's counterproductive in many, it's
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a day to day battle. i was told by several host masters and supervisors throughout my career. i will follow you till i try to do something wrong. if possible, culture, you're the enemy. if you speak up, we'll find a way to get at you opening your mouth. i worry about someone going postal, this is not an option for me. but what about someone that has put their life into the post office? what if they find themselves in brian's cross hairs? see nowhere out, no way out and decide to fire back. what if i'm at work that day and get caught in the crossfire? i warned them, i put it in writing and i sent it to the e. o investigator. and i know i know that somebody took notice because the e o investigator sent it to charlotte who sent the guy down to interview me for an
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hour to make sure that to make sure that i wasn't contemplating something. that the district manager was having a with the town hall meeting. i told them, i said, we're giving you this paper, this petition. because we don't want to sit around and watch tv at the 11 o'clock news. and something crazy happens in the post office. and we look at the tv and see you guys on there saying we didn't know anything was wrong. mm. so we'll put you on. notice if we have a problem. and then of course, we have this disaster tuesday morning where steve spencer commit suicide in the bathroom of the annex.
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i was totally shocked. we had no one we, we didn't have anybody to talk to the carrier. we sent 2 people to the hospital after that. if it's just a tragedy that they had to work through that me or stay with this happy face, he was his happy face that you'd say in the morning, this friendly guy. he didn't have any problems. not on the outside. stay was straight up fella. he always willing to take lead and all the things that the union and, and the postal service needed for the community. he was a timeless worker. me. this
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was the management supervisors that will be coming out and following steve me at 1st it was just every once in a while. but in the last 3 months he was alive had gotten to be $34.00 times here. take your lunch break usually and pass by or pull end of the place. you stop and look and look at their watch. can get out and check sleeping vehicles loc, locating no one all the time that you're watching and then they move on. and that's to me that's for asthma me. i believe they were following him to shake steve up. hopefully i would find him doing something like the listing for that like that they can never do that. i think that's why and i
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followed him for so while i in the state will be the kind of he will been the kind of guy that would be a sacrificial lamb to make things right for everybody else. he was just good. how are you steve spencer? was my secretary when i was present, the thing that i was shocked about is why steve didn't come to somebody for help because everybody used to go to steve for help be real honest, which if it was a steve a lot of days, i probably could that role to people,
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even the president of the union would come to him for advice because they knew, well everyone knew the post to management knew of the union members old any new that he had so much knowledge. and i think that's where part of the problem came in. they were truly afraid of being me. he was the one that they were determined to see blame the puzzle for me. i wasn't surprised at what happened last week because i've seen it come and there's, there's going to be a lot more coming to if, if they don't stop doing the stress
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level walking into the building. i think people feel like their jobs are on the line. i think they feel like that if they say something that they're going to be after, i don't find things to go after them for that. i'll find things to try to get them out when we were voicing our opinions about what this guy's saying and doing. the problem interviewed 6 people, all 6 people said, i feel my blood pressure coming up when i see this manager, the hair on my arm stands up. i get nervous, i get tense. i said what your definition of going postal. when i said that to majid, he threw himself back into the computer, the girl was taking notes, dropped her pen, and he says, we don't like to talk about going postal. i said, okay, well then let's change the word. you tell me what the word is that we use instead of going postal. he says, you know,
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ah, where are you? at? on august 18th, 1983 perry smith carried a 12 gauge shotgun to the post office where he worked for 25 years. he chased the postmaster to a nearby store and killed him shooting to former co workers in the process. less than 4 months later, it happened again in alabama than georgia in new york city. for more than 2 decades and kept happening. postal employees came to work aiming for their bosses, leaving awake of collateral damage as dozens of postal workers were killed or injured. with started a the montclair new jersey. there were 2 coastal employees kill 2 people from the general
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public and one main for life. i went and sat outside that office that night and had tears in my eyes because i wonder if i should go back to work because of the fact that this could happen to me. but it could happen to anybody in any walk a life. and i had so much to give up to leave the postal service me every incident, post office, a violence back then i was involved in i was called in dr. mike mantell, an expert in dealing with mass trauma arrive today. i remember talking about how quickly they cleaned up the blood as a bullet holes and how some of the post office workers said there's still some bull holes in the wall. and it turns our stomach and it turns twists or minds. it affects us deeply. and it was just get back to work. don't worry about it,
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get over it. don't just take a file cabinet and move it over to cover a bullet hole. clean it up. i've seen a lot of people there waiting the boat in their delay. those labor management relations delay stress. i just don't think it's is legitimate. michigan. i know the shooting rampage marketing supervisor came in at about 8 o'clock and had his gun under his coat. he shot chris carlyle and the head 5 times came out, shot to other supervisors and went upstairs and i guess he shot some people who were injury count. somebody jump out of a window. incredibly, everyone knew it was coming. and those knew the gunman by name sa, macklevain was their main target. they went after the guy for everything. they
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went after him because his shorts weren't the right length. that he went to the bathroom too many times. the day that he was actually fired. and it dug 3 management people got in a car and followed him out to his route. they were following like within inches of his bumper. and that then he flo down to you know, 10 or 15 miles an hour. they said that he tried to hit them with you know, flam on the brakes and make them hit him. when it came down to was that he would not submit to them. and so when i came to san francisco, i was just shocked that the manager there was the same kind of manager that i had seen in royal oak. you know, barking at everybody screaming at him, you know, scream from across the room for you to come to her desk. so she could yell at you
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and for everybody in the, in the place is frightening to me, to be in there and the times that i went to the postmaster in san francisco and personally asked, what can we do because the morale is so bad that i can see how another royal oak will happen here. and the response always was to me. well, g is audrey. you seem to have some kind of personal problems. have you thought about seeing a psychiatrist about the supervisor appears to have been killed by a coworker later turned the gun on himself. postal employees were told not to comment as specifics to disciplinary that information were under release. of all of these employees are very well, like they don't have any idea. no one could possibly know why he did it.
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how can that be that you just have the same situation so many times over and over? how can that possibly be? it has to be the mentality of the post office a . 7 with the union parish in the local office, that takes care of any problems with management and any of the other employees just to part of my make up. that i cannot see another human being being
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easily harassed or to humanize any or shot of me without me getting up and try to assist them with the see the injustice. and he said, you know what, i'm either going to go nuts or i'm gonna go do something about it. that's one of the things that made me steward. and invariably, you'll find that to stewards or people that grew up standing in between a bully and somebody who either couldn't or wouldn't defend himself. i am not an individual that likes to fight. i like to sit down and negotiate. but if i'm back into the corner, knock on that swing or both arms because i believe in human rights and in and i believe are morality. there's always some type of retaliation whenever you get a really good settlement, whenever you, as i would say, just nail
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a once they want to come back and get you, but it's just business. it's not supposed to get personal. as a shop steward, my dad had an adversarial relationship with many of the bosses around the dinner table. i hear stories like this one after he had lost a large arbitration, a grievance with me. and he took me outside my 40 birthday without it without any shout of anyone else and say, i'm a fire you for no reason at all. and you'll be on the outside every 6 months, a year. you get to arbitration in 1997 local management, postpone inspectors following me and filming me on a daily basis. they accuse me of stealing $500.00 over
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a 10 year period and put me out of work. this time i understand. bob is suspended without pay, pending the outcome of a criminal investigation regarding mileage expense report. it was the spring of my senior year and the future was suddenly uncertain in the federal sector and especially in the postal service. they have an incredible maze of how to resolve problems. it's totally designed to take as long as possible israel, my mileage vouchers for 10 years, which route only came to 2 miles a day, 7 miles. wherever i went, they had asked me to go plus the letters, hundreds and hundreds of letters from customers that i service over the years. and i never had a financial shortage. never took anything from the postal service. with us workplaces your presumed guilty until proven innocent workers are routinely
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fired, suspended, held out, starved, and it is a disciplining tool on the part of management. most working class people can't sustain a, you know, a single paycheck much less several months of waiting for a grievance case to be heard by an arbitrator or through a grievance panel. there's always a fear. you're not going to get the job back. and many people give up and take the punishment as i've known, single mothers and single fathers that had to feed their families and took the deal and made it look like they were guilty of something they never did. so what do you like to go around and get the bar that can find with trying to figure out now that you will get your job back with her and will be
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fired. what time do they trying to start with? yeah, i had one manager, many offices is the best way to, to take care of your employees, the by your best employee and find something he's doing wrong and get my letter away. and i would say to myself, why in a world what i want to do that? well, they figured that if you wrote up your best employee, the other 4 employees were for line thinking. well, that is one of the best guy in the office for some minor little detail. they want intimidated. ah, the working environment in the postal service is combative. now we're getting warning letters with chicks are out there is one is largely a fear and intimidation
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a day because we're very getting. however, when you do that yourself whole you feel you feel you feel in the answer to everything is different differently to your voice or you just because there's no reason why people for free the world. well, with my with they always say one thing to promote somebody who does the opposite. when you say, i've had particular managers who i've received hundreds of complaints on. i've had to go out to the post office. i've had a shut down and have a come to jesus meeting with that manager about what their responsibility is and how they should be treating their workers in the united states congress in
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washington post office and, and reams out the manager. now you get a response. i mean that's, it's unfortunate that bad, it has to happen, but, you know, sometimes that has to happen. and if you have a disagreement, the bar you might be suspended, you might be called in for an investigative interview. you'll see audit team's miraculously showing up at your door or 5 o'clock in the morning to look for your records. you michelle, one little block to 47 walks. also, you're being disciplined. i was told to lay off back off. you don't want something to happen to you. if you go to a post office and they have 60 routes, they'll probably have enough personnel to operate 46 routes. they'll probably open up vehicles for 43 routes and they'll be short on everything they need to run that
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office in that respect. it's hostile, it's own, every little delivery number you are answerable for every single day in your post office. you like say on any given day on the street, it's not the same day to different 24 hours management doesn't allow for that because they're so focused on the binary code off the, off the numbers a in, oh no, no, no, but they did a mapping by a millionaire.
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