association with me, i only is a confidential informant that anything really try to pick apart everything that he did for the a year. and you just like hide who i don't know, it's tough on the text messaging all his friends smoked. we also even through all of this, so she could of and like he wants to read and, and but he didn't he understand that you have a one in

weber's behavior from the video is very concerning. but before i talk about that, go back the day before. mm. where officer webber went to andrew sat x dorm room and that was the 1st threat that was made to andrew, the threatening you're in trouble. you're going to be charged with felonies. we have you on video and audio recordings selling marijuana to 2 different confidential informants. if you don't work with me, you're going to prison for 40 years. whoever said you can come to the law enforcement center and meet with me tomorrow. and you can work with me and all, help make some of this go away and make the punishment a lot less. but you can't tell anybody. you can't tell your parents. you can't tell your roommate. you can't tell your friends. you can't talk to an attorney. you just

need to come and talk to me and this to work. nobody can know about this. actually, the max is 40 years in prison, 40 years. and now obviously you're probably not going to get 40 years. but it is a good possibility that your, your personal time, if you know it is asserting his authority and giving andrew false information for the amount of marijuana that andrew sold to the 2 different confidential informants. there is no way that he would have gone to prison for that that i'm out, but most likely with that at that level of the crime, you're looking at probation, maybe some community service. i can't imagine one young andrew was thinking in his situation sitting with this guy who he thought was probably just going to be just an like a slap on the wrist meeting like

a don't let us catch you screwing up again. and then all of a sudden this guy's like, yeah, you got to work with us or you're going to face 40 years will cross your whole life . if we have to like blue it was one of the 1st times i've actually seen the footage of that happening and watched it happen and able to see the body language and the reactions that take place between the individuals. and once you learn more of the background, you can understand why someone who had never really been in trouble and was only 20 and trying to get through college would be scared to death. for years, news news buys from either you or you have to wear wire, you have to live marijuana from individuals and not dependent on how you do and so forth. you know, a lot of this can go away or you andro was under intense pressure and he was

terrified of the consequences. most of the time they're looking for more than pot or key by using other marijuana. and i think the contact intensifies, and then i think they gave him deadlines to do more interest to people to get the you know, all the logo, i think labor. it was a bowie. and i think that his actions caused the death of andrew static, you know, when you check any call, a text message works just fine. when you're sending andrew a boy, he's still a boy. i mean, he isn't legal to have a beer in our state. and you're going to send him after these drug lords. no, to me, that was the worst part about all this news from november of 2013. until may of 2014. there were 3. buys that address,

did under the direction of officer webber. ah ah. after those 3 buys webber, still wanted one more. now that would have been sometime in early 2014. mm. ah ah ah, do believe there was very little communication from january to april. ah

good had to weigh on him. there are some research projects that have been done that talk about the psychology that goes along with becoming a confidential informant and the pressures that are emotionally put on someone that once an individual is approached and brought in to that situation, it will change them forever. in i don't know what was going on in andrew's mind. i just know that what he was probably being asked to do was to dive deeper. find someone else move down trade with you want to get all the charges. well, you've got to give me somebody data you ah, there was

a point around april 15th, that there was no more communication and that's a real red flag. you never know red flags name, nothing. that's what's making this so difficult for us is law enforcement? no red flag, nothing. why wasn't jason webber and contact with vander sac every day? why didn't he know where he was at all times? and if, if andrew was not responding to officer webber, why didn't he bring a man bring the charges? and because he wasn't doing what he'd been asked for this situation that go on from november of 2013 to may of 2014 is problematic. certain amount. if you want me to start and try to get what you normally,

i want to know who jason, whatever worked for because somebody empowered him to lie to andrew. somebody empowered him to basically playoff andrew's worst fears. and that was simco. tonight's point of view topic. what is sanker, and are they to blame for the death of andrew sack or lose weak tammy, static andrews, mom blamed at some go for her son's death loss, and good to be clear, stands for the se multi county agency, narcotics task force. essentially. they could be perceived as a local drug and force agency down in richland county. simco operates as their own entity, with their own board of directors, and their own oversight. investigators have permission to be on the campus, but they don't have to notify the school about who they may be investigating. ah, one thing that we found really odd is that one of the sergeants at the campus police station was on the board of some come. this review listed all

but one drug task force board member and d as c as police sergeant steve helga said sergeant hogan son was on the some come board. yeah. yeah. ah, they should not have had that conflict of interest of 3rd party should have been investigating what was going on if they knew who andrew was. then what he was doing, they shouldn't have been investigating that. talk to me. i started in august and there why, why will i talk with him? then we had a reporter, he just went to the college, walked in and tried talking to him, and he got the door slammed in his face and told to turn his camera off. mm. her a resumes,

aquila started to ah, there shoddy investigative work was terrible. but again, it goes back to the fact of why are they letting some car, sirs onto their campus, not knowing what they're doing. it's all money driven. the reason that some co exist is due to money from the federal government. they're dealing and small level crimes like marijuana buys, because it helps their numbers, the more arrests that they can make. the more charges that they can show, the more money they're going to get to keep going. so it's almost like a commissioned sales job at that point as man, my little brother was actually going to andy s. yes, at the same time as andrew and lived in the same dorm at the same time,

there is no drug problem and why pretend it's fabricated. i would say that they're targeting people that they dow are going to have a little bit a pot here. and there, the numbers that they use, it's mostly marijuana live it's misdemeanor level. it tells you that the bastardize, the war on drugs and federal funding for their own benefit. there's a purpose of federal funding. that's not the purpose of these standards. is to investigate is to dean this male big organizations dangerous organizations, full chillers real children. and i be andrew sad exodus room ah ah, it's update on you being

a no, no, no, no, but i did a valuable. mm hm. not that big. my middle, now i own my head up, my laptop that has a new knuckle, ala. bob again thought, no, well, i'm going up there a bit, a, well, i mean, happy lation, suburban. i thought, yeah, it's not in the that then you a tool that was bad for your eyes and your posture that it would stop you from having real friends and finding a girlfriend. but what they fail to mention is that you can make thousands of dollars every weekend by simply playing video games with stacy been

a couple of them because i always wanted to question about sure. it's a little under a georgia resume with president. okay. much for to do stuff is no longer going, of course to make video games a high paying job. you have to be gifted and quick witted. i'm going to open up with spike to close to nathan fitness to listening and miss thompson and webpage bentley up amongst the booth but even started yet. glove voice. when you most stormy, i'm of is do it out or you mean yeah, was it neil's feel? are you guy of the owner without that vehicle? it will still be stuck with these odd to do i also use this is the videotape deposition of steve helga since taken by the plaintiff in the matter of john and tammy say, dec versus jason webber at all. there's your abn, you family say that the testimony are about to give me the truth,

the whole truth and i think that you're going to do is say your name, steven helmerson. morning officer webber. morning. we've never met prior to say heavily to the family. wanted to bring a lawsuit against anyone that was responsible for the disappearance of death of andrew where does the funding count for so there are 2 different grafts. are they provided with the statistical information that you put together as to the number of cases you're in? so i'm not at the time of the, the, the grant application of the statistics, common quarterly reports that go on, i burn j, graft federal website. and those are reported court. we were able to bring a lawsuit against jason webber for his involvement with some cut. the law suit is alleging negligence, so essentially,

the miss handling of andrew as a confidential informant. also, we have the ledge, fraud and deceit. in other words, they misled andrew in to getting involved in his role as confidential informant, which we believe led to as death. mm. are there any other specific courses you can point me to that you've been or professors you've been trained on strictly confidential form and i have no one point your permanent ones that part of the program i saw on the board? yes. so for the time, the savage, what this thing you are still a board member of some yes. you are privy to cases that were operating but not who was doing what?

such as the c s o, there'd be a line across the sheep that would say in dfcs, in a case, and what the drug was that they were working on. but that was, it was a number system. we didn't know who people were. neither the agent nor the she so up until essentially 2016, the state college of science was involved in the task force correct. when the federal were you informed of controlled by as being performed on campus for which andrew sat, it was the target day that he went missing or that night when he 1st made aware of that. and so it was acting as a confidential informant at that point. right,

with that moment to the other person, prior to that on march 10, 2014, we sent a text that said, are you still alive, though? remember that phil? did you have any concerns about him? i? i didn't. he didn't contact me or i haven't heard from him for a while. i didn't have any concerns. i just asked, you know, just a peer to speech. april 17th, 2014. you gave a deadline of may 1 to complete another by correct why the may 1st deadline on because at that point he was on the question that he's going to be graduating from school and he will be leaving the walk in area and it would be difficult for him to complete what he needs to complete traveling back and forth. he's going to go, there was may 1, andrew, i listen. i believe. so. i know who steve alderson is,

was he involved in andrew cedric handling so he would have never participated on our deals. was he aware that the consent search was taking place? i honestly, i don't recall sometimes we can, you know, if we only teacher different jurisdictions, sometimes we will notify you know, the sheriff of cheap we use or you know, if it's on campus steve, typically these individuals all don't want to know what we're doing. and south, and steve's a big one for that. he's never really wanted to know what we're doing on campus. what is the extent of the relation ship between santa and campus police now? not distant. i don't know if they're even working on the campus or not anymore. dates could be and i didn't have any idea at all if you had known that andrew said

it or any other student at the school science was acting as a confidential informant, or were the target of a buy from a confidential informant? would you have done anything different towards that student? no, for yes. mm mm hm. mm mm. want them to tell me exactly what they were doing with andrew up until that

point, if they're, if they had him under so much pressure that he actually did commit suicide. i want, i want to know, i want to know what they were doing with him. the truth and like the truth. mm. campus. police asked me if i had a gun missing and they got that andrew might had why and so did he. i checked my guns and yep, there was a pistol missing from them from the garage with the ran through my mind, kathy that didn't ah, for him to do it without leaving

a note or something. let us sing by to us. i do not believe that her 2nd mm. the question that we may never have truthfully answered. mm. and the only person that might know what really happened is officer webber doing your white. oh, okay. and then now the thing is, was he being asked by something more the marijuana was he being asked to go to people that he didn't really know and never interacted with to buy whether was part or something else. lou, i take it. he wasn't, i'm selling hot. i wouldn't think that that would lead to a bullet. but whatever was, i think that he went and met up with somebody bigger and better than anybody and he

had expected or that he trapped to not do scared. and he ended up in the error. i have a lot of people who talk to me about my involvement with the sad family in those in the people that support the static family don't really care whether he was murdered or whether he took his own life. i know that's a bad thing to say, but they don't really care because what they care about is that he was put in a position where it's one of those 2 thanks. what happened in the end, the narrative that got us to the end, we should never have happened. so while i believe that andrew was murdered, i don't think it should take away from the fact that if in fact he did commit suicide, that was not any saying that andrew did without somebody pushing him towards lou.

we adore having those guys around quickly. and i value the fact that they had that much respect to come and in spend time with us because we get to watch them grow. we're not sure really what to do with the farm. always wanted to keep it in the name by that's can be pretty hard to do. now. i was expanding at the time of address the athens just was renting smore pastor and i was going to expand my heard building it up for for his future and stuff. and after his death, i've basically just lost all my ambition to don't have any will any more me

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