how the president of russia and the us hold crisis talks triggered by tensions over ukraine. joe biden raises the threat of sanctions against moscow, while vladimir putin calls for diplomacy and slammed cubes, attempts to undermine piece talk. a gunman is arrested in southern moscow after killing 2 people and injuring for others in a public services center. and hope frances slams the you for trying to enforce supposedly inclusive language, likening its actions to the nazi dictatorship ah, a broadcasting live from the russian capital. this is our to international,

my name is donald quarter. welcome to the program. vladimir putin and joe biden have concluded a 2 hour video call focusing on fears of a military escalation in ukraine. the kremlin and the white house have revealed the key talking points. ortiz saskia taylor can tell us more. there was a lot of hype around the school, but at the same time, very low expectations. and any major breakthrough would happen and not indeed seems to be the case here. after that phone call in which a number of issues was raised ranging from cyber warfare to strategic stability, to regional issues such as iran. both sides have come out with statements now and i will say it's very interesting to see how the 2 of them paint very different portraits of both the content and the tone of the phone call. that said, there are 3 points on which they do converge. the fuss is not the u. s. on russia will continue to walk diplomatically together. moving forward to that, the bulk of the conversation i was dedicated to ukraine and 3 that indeed bite and

did warn of a serious punitive measures in case of any attack on ukraine. now for the differences on ukraine, the u. s. statement quite broadly said that really all that happened was that the president biden expressed his commitment to ukraine's sovereignty and urged 40 escalation. that's all. what we're hearing from the kremlin, though, is that president putin very clearly laid out. the numerous ways in which key of is violating the immense agreements which just reminder our list of protocols that are in place to try and settle the conflict in the dumbass region in east and ukraine. now another thing that completely didn't get a mentioned by the white house was moscow's concern about aggressive nato activity, especially in the black c region, as well as its expansion. it to the, let's take a listen. the responsibility should not be shifted onto the shoulders of russia,

since it is nato that is making dangerous attempts to control ukrainian territory and is building opus military potential at our borders. russia is seriously interested in obtaining reliable, lengthy binding guarantees that need to would not expand east or deploy offensive weapon systems in states bordering on russia. you know, may be because they took time at touring it up. it does strike me that the kremlin statement is much more detailed. it also very specifically describes the concrete proposals made by both leaders, one particular positive encouraging one was suggested by vladimir putin. now he said that may be the sanctions and limitations on diplomatic missions in the 2 nations could be removed. meaning it would be an end to tit for tat expulsions and n to over buds and an understaffed missions. and instead, and the embassies on the tip from outs, getting back to walk as usual. now the final difference i would make is not about content, but in fact about tone. because whilst the kremlin came out and said, yeah, you know what we did agree, operations are not in

a great state at the moment, put on balance. the conversation was constructive with washington. what we saw instead was really a continuation of aggressive rhetoric that we thought in the need up to the cool. it was all about how president biden had issued warnings, how he had pressured his russian counterpart. so it definitely struck me that it was all about projecting this image of strength. how it was a power play between these 2 men rather than what it should be, which has a bit of course, to breach the gap between 2 nations. when they've never really seen so far apart, but i think as a summary, what we can say is that given us russia ties really have not a sunk to such lows in many, many years. even these 2 statements blind as they might seem without any major promises of change. and even with all these very large differences, even they can be seen as a success. despite the initial pleasantries, a real shift in relations looks like it's still a long way off. given that the u. s. has ramped up talk about sanctions against

russia for the take across the atlantic. on today's video meeting between the 2 leaders. here's ortiz kayla, pop the court topic of the press conference that went on in the aftermath of the meeting was media ramping up hysteria and fears that somehow russia may be planning to injure the or invade or attack ukraine. now it's important to know we did hear from the national security advisor, jake sullivan. he did speak to the press and he said, quote, we still do not believe that present pollutant has made a decision to quote further invade ukraine. now that you know, seems to fly in the face of some remarks that we've heard from other us officials, jen, saki, the white house spokesperson continued to play up this notion of russian aggression . here's some of what she said to fresh were to invade, invade ukraine, prevents of russia and president putin from invading ukraine and most importantly, not to invade russia and president putin decides to invade ukraine. now it's

important to note that even though the national security adviser said they felt that raja had not made such a decision, there are new sanctions to be imposed on russia that are currently in the works. we heard victoria newland testifying about these new sanctions before the u. s. senate committee, here's what she said. what we're talking about would amount to essentially isolating russia completely from the global financial system with all of the fall out that that would entail for russian business for the russian people for their ability to, to work and travel and trade. so there seemed to be a desire on everyone's part for today's meeting to result in a de escalation. however, this hasn't stopped the united states from talking of these new sanctions, and it hasn't stopped us media from playing up. this idea that there is somehow a russian threat or russian aggression. so quite an interesting day, we're waiting for more information from both sides about what went on in the

meeting between the 2 leaders. now, despite that aggressive rhetoric, though american law makers have not included certain anti russian measures in the 2020 u. s. defense budget draft that were actually in the house draft include a band on americans buying russian debt and sanctions against the nor stream to gas pipeline or t. america host. ben swan says the sanctions not being in the bill implies that the american president doesn't want to push on with them. it's a fairly big deal. consider the fact that obviously when the house version was written, as you mentioned, these sanctions were included, the senate version, they're not included. that's something called reconciliation. where essentially the bill has to match. and so it looks like those sanctions won't be there, which means that the biden administration is actually cutting ties with a lot of the rhetoric of the democratic party right now in the u. s. which is insistent upon having these kinds of sanctions built into the us defense spending bills. and it's pretty significant for a couple of reasons. one is because the president himself has been indicating for

some time that he does not want to continue to push forward on the sanction, specifically over north stream too, because of pressure he's getting from germany, the germans don't like this idea. remember, this is not a unilateral measure on the russian part. russia and germany together are saying we want the pipeline. russia says we want to send oil in natural gas that pipeline. germany says we desperately need oil and natural gas pipeline. but it does as you know, all go back to this issue of ukraine. the idea is that by russia bypass the ukraine, that somehow this will be harmful to ukraine, or they'll be able to have greater leverage over ukraine. and so the rhetoric doesn't necessarily match the reality, and again, you have to sovereign nation insisting that this is something they both want and both need. and i think the u. s. was finally backing away from this idea that they now recognize they can't stop it from happening. in other news, a deadly shooting, rock, se moscow. on tuesday, inside a public services center, the gunman killed 2 people and injured for others, one of which was

a young child or cheese nicky era and can tell us more. one has been, seems of absolute chaos and panic on this relatively quiet street to the southeast of moscow. this afternoon. after a 45 year old man opened fire in the city service center right behind me, as you said, killing 2 people and injuring for others. now we believe that one of those killed today was an employee at the service center and it has been confirmed that one of those injured was a 10 year old girl. now the conditions of those 4 people who were injured today is said to be very serious. it's unclear at this point. what exactly led this man to open fire on these people here today. although it's been reported that there was perhaps an altercation or an arguments over the wearing of protective face mosques off to which he opened fire and then tried to flee the sea. now pituitary, there was an off duty police officer, am in the service center at the time he managed to chase off to him and restrain him until the police arrived and arrested the man and,

and took him in for questioning. yup, tomorrow, butcher. mr. i was at my workplace and had a far alarm as well as the sound similar to a gunshot, than i saw, a man running towards the exit building. and you know, at that moment i made a decision to detain him, and i ran off to him. he resisted arrest i. sylvia was carrying a knife and afar off. but when i was entangled, i made sure he couldn't use these weapons were civil and neutralized him go. then it was found that this man actually had not the knife, a gun, but also a knife on his person. and that the man that off duty police officer could be in line for an award for that tremendous active bravery to day. now the moscow mer answer gets beyond in he has of course expect expressed his condolences to the families of the victims. they lost their lives day to day and also express the hope for a speedy recovery. for those 4 who were injured in this sad, this tragic turn of events that day respond to a man who knew one of the people killed in the shooting. local and silly st. lucie, i knew alexei ross left we worked together for about 4 months. i was

a club crim attendant, he was a security guards here. good, good. he was a kind hard working man, a good man. oh you said were never any problems with him soon. and he always told him funny stories and anecdotes. so i found out earlier today that there were ambulance says, police had or stuff, we thought it was a bomb threat where there had been a fire. but you found out that there have been a shooting with dead and wounded. and among the dead, i sold the name of that man. i worked well. so this was a school to us. they still ahead on r t a british foreign office. whistleblower says the u. k. abandoned thousands of its allies in afghanistan, leaving them in the lurch under taliban rule, this story, and more in just another 92nd progress driven by adrenal shaped bankers. and those with

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ah, welcome back to the program. now we're going to go back to our top story. now vladimir putin and joe biden have concluded a 2 hour video called focusing on fears of a military ex escalation in ukraine. the kremlin and the white house have revealed the key talking points to get more on this situation. we're going to cross live now to maximilian craw. he's a member of the european parliament. maximilian, thanks a lot for joining us before we get into some of the key dispute. so between pollutant and bite and do you think it's a good sign? they're talking at all. it's always a good time if people talk with each day instead of talking about each other. and it shows that now the american specially but been one park recognize that we have reached

a point where we need new solutions. otherwise the we run your risk of having a real situation and maybe a war. well, let's talk a little bit about what victoria newland said. i mean, cutting russia out of swift, the international finance financial system that would be a catastrophic step. that's something that the united states has has not done at all yet. so do you think that is an actual possibility? no, i don't think so. i mean look, i'm not belinda and i come from from a dinner with for a member stephen, chairman parliament. and we know that if we put russia out of every international connection, then we increase the risk of a war, not only in ukraine, but also on other parts of the we need to keep russia would in says

the need to keep russia would in that determine we need to keep rush hour in the glove of for some of peace and understanding and if you put it out, then russia has no reason not to play a poet game. so if we start to, to, to put it out on the 1st sentence, then, i mean, why shouldn't russia then take action on its own hand? and so we have to end just spiral of escalation and even to think about to put and to push russia out of swift is inquiry and then the spiral of, of conflict and to increase the risk of having a war. so i don't have any acceptance for such an idea and i think it is just far beyond what we should even consider. well,

what do you think america stands to gain for making the threats like that for something that a hasn't happened and be, will not happen? according to moscow? i mean, the americans today, they would ukraine deal with china. and the problem is that on capital hill, both parties do not agree on almost nothing, but they agree on the external enemy. so because america is divided too far, they need external enemies. that they have at least some thing they are united. and that means that the internal politics and the internal division. but when the last and the right in america create the need for a common external enemy. and there are 2 enemies today that was russia and china.

and that is the reason why we, why we see those escalation as well, based on key of recent political actions in the international stage. it seems like they have something to game, perhaps, by the escalation of tensions between the western russia. what, what do you think they might have to gain from it? i mean we have to do is just english between the ukraine of the country and the people which i, which i really appreciate. i mean, you transfer the test the country. and on the other hand, we have the legal, candid one. so the, the key, the problem is the key was run by people that look for their own personal benefit on that of the, the common goods. and if you see the, the big amount of military a, the west, especially the united states spending into the ukraine. and if you also consider that you complete ukrainian economy and the state budget complete the patent less

than money. then you see that the only guy had to, to, to win a lot because they went to western a western money. and there is no, i don't think military a, you can personally enrich yourself that easily. so for the key of regime that looks for the benefit and set up, the countries coming good, a conflict is degraded opportunity to benefit from west military. and we have to same model already seen and gather. mary corrupt leet took the money from the way and increased the principal well. but the ukraine as a country and the ukraine and people of course, suffer from it. they are now having once a very cold and i the winter. and if you look, did the deed of men and the exchange rate up to leave. if you look at it,

call me as is moving how you look on the undergrad rates and you see that this conflict will definitely have one and does move the plan as a country. and so you can people european parliament member maximilian crowd. thanks a lot for joining us on the program. thank you very much. now pope francis has warned that the e v e. you, that it's in danger of bringing about its own downfall. that's if it doesn't tone down its desire to impose its own way of thinking on everyone else even compared its methods to quote the nazi dictatorship. the head of the catholic church was referring to a european commission drive to make official communications more inclusive, including a suggestion that staff se, holiday period instead of christmas. here's our teams charlotte uminski hope frances, essentially condemning the european commission in likening it to the nazi regime.

he also offered a warning saying the brussels shouldn't be moving on a path towards at this type of woke language. this is what the pontiff had to say in history. many, many dictatorships have tried to do this kind of thing. think of napoleon, think of the nazi dictatorship, the communist one. it is a fashion of a watered down secularism, distilled water. it is something that throughout history hasn't worked well that document was canceled last week after a firestorm of criticism with politicians across the block describing it is lacking common sense. now they also said that the commission was trying to cancel christmas . why? well, one of the guidelines within that document said that people shouldn't say christmas can be stressful. and there was the idea of saying you shouldn't ask people for their christian name. now this idea of inclusive language is something that the

commission president herself on de leon has in the past, backed and said she wants to move towards. but this document which contained many other examples like not greeting people as ladies and gentlemen, because that wasn't inclusive enough and saying you couldn't describe something as being man made because that would be sexist, was just as step too far. and as a result, the commission has had to make an embarrassing you tune and delete this document. now pope frances also talked about the idea of a document like this essentially weakening democracy. he said when national values are being sacrificed and this is something that was meant to unify europe as instead what it's done is shown even deeper divisions. and the pope himself warned that something like this could cause the fall of the e u itself. brussels must be careful not to take the path of ideological colonial

life zation, which could end up dividing countries and causing the european union to fail. well, was that document was cancelled last week. what it does is it raises questions about the political set up of the commission itself. and i say that because the commission is supposed to dot the eyes cross the t's, make sure that any document that's published is exactly what it wants to be. so the doesn't to track the sort of criticism we've seen over this document, and as it would have verified that before vacation, it really begs the question, is this the direction that the commission wants to move in a direction where we have a world without christmas political analysts, nicholas markovich thinks the pope's intervention shows just how far the e u elite has drifted from the views of its citizens. for many people who dreamed of duelling europe after world war war, they never thought of this. this is europe, unfortunately brussels. this is the super elite in europe today who are copying was

coming out of the american campuses. this is relayed by mainstream media by a major corporations and they're trying to re engineer the society. this has nothing to do with tackling the sanitary situation with fighting against poverty, with helping countries integrate. this has nothing to do. this is social re engineering. this is quite scary and this is coming from a top, brought him a momentum with again, the super elite, which is wanting to dictate to people how they're supposed to think what they are not to say again to just think about the document. the essence of the document, this is, this is frightening. this is the essence of the author to author rotarians. and this is a series of totalitarianism. tell people what they're supposed to think and say thousands of people desperate to flee the taliban in afghanistan. many of whom worked for the british armed forces were left behind without any help from london. that's the claim from a former staffer at the foreign office who was blown the whistle in

a damning report, it's left official scrambling to defend their alleged actions. i would just seem axiomatic to me that if the foreign secretary is going to be away, the permanent under secretary isn't going to be away. i should have been more visible, tall people who came across was a risk recently i have reflected on this. i have my trying to get, i would have come, come back. i've gotten it. you don't need to repeat it. i'm going to say it again. you know, i've reflect so much 30 firstly and it hurt my tone again. it was a company, it sounds less credible every time you repeat, it sounds, prosecutors, while uncomfortable watching, but certainly uncomfortable for those top civil servants here in westminster, sat there facing an absolute grilling at the foreign affairs. select committee this afternoon. of course it follows his testimony from a now whistleblower in the foreign office, raphael marshall who was working on the desks during those incredibly dark times. as copper was falling to the taliban. now he said, up to

a 120000 people were frantically emailing the foreign office here in westminster, begging and pleading for their assistance, saying you've got to help us. you've got to save us from the taliban. now he's blaming it on a lack of staff. i work from home culture here in the united kingdom at the moment, but also he's blaming it on the very fact that members of staff are away on holiday . the foreign office, most senior civil servant, didn't return to the united kingdom some 11 days later. the problem with all of that though is that these senior civil servants were leaving junior members of staff to deal with this crisis, dealing with issues that a way above their skill set. and also the amount of emails that are coming through just left many of those emails on red in the inbox i estimate between 75150000 people applied for evacuation. many of these emails were not read, they were usually over 5000 unread emails in the inbox at any given moment,

including many unread e mails dating from early in august. these emails were desperate an urgent. well, another controversy all matter is the fact that cats and dogs were given priority over human beings indeed is allegedly at a highest level as well. the prime minister apparently used considerable capacity. i tried to wangle the situation to get pen fall things animal char, to the animals that he was looking off to back here to the united kingdom and all gib lee ahead of prioritizing desperate people that were trying to flee the taliban now poorest johnson has since denied all of that this afternoon, but the grilling isn't just at boris johnson is also out. dominic rob then foreign secretary here allegedly took hours to respond to even the most simplest of questions. apparently he didn't fully understand the situation in the region. a tool, and according to this whistle blow up, it was the entire team that was woefully had a woeful lack of knowledge when it came to the situation of afghanistan. now

despite all of these, damming allegations, boris johnson is still buying the same drum, singing the same mantra that the u. k. did an excellent evacuation job, the operation pitching to and if 15000 people out of trouble in the way that we did over the summer was one of the arts time being that she achievement. so i think that the role of the foreign office, the roman fee of one function, everybody involved in it more piece officials. or they did a map super excited for what we've really seen her to day a some pretty damning allegations. not just against dominic rob, not just against morris johnson, but now the government as a whole. this is a whopping 40 page document. this testimony that really goes into all sorts of allegations against the government. basically saying that the united kingdom let people down, but not only that, not only letting people down, but it cost people's lives and contacted the british foreign office about the

whistleblowers claims and we will bring you the response if and when we get it. but as for now, that's all for this hour. we'll be back with more news in just about 30 minutes. so stay tuned. blue people join me every thursday on the alex salmon. sure. i'll be speaking to guess from the world of politics, sport, business. i'm show business, i'll see you then a video domicile. they might be with can sure to coordinate

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