a ah i wanted to ask you 1st and foremost, how is the well doing in its fight against cove it i think did that said design porter deficient recording where you leave? so did, did the issue is that we, i think we are doing quite code i in day the most advanced and wednesday so side is up, but unfortunately they, they, they, the war kaiser is that he verified to be accomplished a developing counting did at most difficult comm theresa there are leading that it, it biggest strategies in terms of the number of crises that they are affected by. and i, this is will. so what strikes me really a lot is eugena quantity that we are leaving in i and there wasn't counting 9. you can yonah, for example, we had many sing that though dosa. while in africa we asked louisa raised that tisa

temper sandy, blondy, ghost would 0 percent. so something that says, morgana said, every country to some degree is going to work according to its own speed, is its own efficacy, i guess when it comes to getting the right demographics, exposed to the right vaccines for example. but you and i were talking at just moment before you joined me in the studio and, and, and i. and i hope that is good news in the world to the moment regarding this concerted global initiative to battle, coven, i printed some documents for you that the john hopkins university of medicine in baltimore, very well established medical institute. they printed off a list of all the countries around the world. of course, this is not a lot to do with a mass vaccination rights. and essentially it shows the number of confirmed infections and it shows a number of fatalities, for example. and i guess this should be good news in israel, for example, 1300000 confirmed infections. a death rate of 0.6 percent switzerland, 1000000, infected death rate, 1 point one percent. the kate $10000000.00 infected death rate, 1.4 percent spain,

1.7 percent. france, 1.5. that should mean the vaccines are working. yeah, he said good news. it is good news when better, but for whom. so this is why once again, now, of course that means that the about sin is working right. maxine is affect deever bought so maxine, it may be of axis must be x accessible by him of a for every one for every human being. this is not company, this is why we are so concerned about i did, did the current trans 70 distribution of the vaccine sell around toward talking about it for doses. so add a booster over some one. he's talking about 2022. even the 5th dose is, and this is, this is, i mean, this is a point of concern, you know, from the a number of people out there actually because i'm british and in the u. k. the moment the prime minister is saying, if he find one vaccine or 2 vaccinations is not important, now you need a booster every 6 months. is that so it is at the future. do you think of how we can evaluate? i'm not a, i'm not a scientist. i'm not the medical doctor,

so i don't want to do and getting something that is not up to me. but i did did, did the consent. it's about the accessing places where they didn't do not have access. so they had to the 1st doses and add these iniquities or something that were calling to be fixed. so do you do the hours, but for sure, i think that we have to leave. we deserve disease that for a very long time. yes, it's not the, it's not going to be all vera, especially if we will continue to need. we need in the, in the, in the same way as we are doing now. you mentioned a few moments ago about about how difficult it is to get mass vaccinations to the developing world. for example, you've seen a huge amount of nationwide inoculation rates in parts of europe, parts of america as well. but in places like africa, for example, they're not getting the number of jobs that they need. is there something that you can do? your organ organizations can do to help to, to speed up the process of getting more vaccinations to africa. of course, we are ready to support,

we are ready to scale up our activities in africa. but the issues about our day, they did the vaccines to have access to the vaccine, sir. so because our at the moment old of oxy answer, i have only one destination to west and counties. and this is why we are, we are asking her to change the ways working now. so it will door to walker and maybe we have our be copa on the w to your on a finding a maybe a new agreement like the creeps that was, was i found and i had to, to have the same solution that was adopted therefore ha v for example, that helped a lot to, to dawn to slow down a dekessa, the cases of ha v in africa. i remember seeing a story quite recently that europe, at one point in the past month or 2, had an excess of vaccines. they had too many jobs, and they were suggested perhaps you should send this to developing countries. did they send those jobs to, you know, to developing countries? yes. by the bureaucrats. he is very high eager, for example, are we,

we have asked her sam johnson and johnson her back. see now to deal with italian government is still we are waiting for a degree. lied about liability. 2 or 2 sandy's or 100000 vaccines. the minutes whether, because our so these and other is another country, this in desperate need of our vaccines saw the, the issue of bureaucracy. they surely show me the fact myself legal companies are, is an important one then that they want the vaccines that were not delivered in the european union, the steel, where in the warehouse of the found myself, your company, that once i've been delivered to do it to the developing counties, but did once that they're not used there, because maybe they're close to expire. maybe because in the you will be annually on our we are convinced that johnson johnson are or astrazeneca and not go daddy either want sir. ah, this, you know, that is fake news. get us begging, rounder i convinced a lot of people did the update totally of to user. they did last we day,

and it may, but sir, ah, atlanta that, that stock gained the warehouse in the county's lake eagerly frown sir, this is very slow. the process is very slow. i wanted to bring up the issue of this latest strain that of all mc wrong, that i know you very much aware of and, and, and all the news channels around the world are talking about it. i just wanted to, to preface this by saying that world health organizations, chief scientist, assume we are swimming nathan of people on friday, not to panic. obama crohn australia's chief medical officer pulled kelly has said, there's no indication that omicron is more deadly than other strains. quote of the over 300 cases that have now being diagnosed in many countries. they have all been very mild or in fact had no symptoms at all. and then the south african medical association says there's no reason for panicking. we don't see severely ill people suffering from omicron, and yet the media and the governments are continuing to ring the alarm bells over this very end. but we're having the w h o. the chief australian medical officer and

the south african medical association saying don't panic. what do you say at we should follow the the advisors coming from the debris had shaw, and this had d. v. community so dwarfed and a political lead us and the government's out substituting go there. this and given community in dealing with decor. 19 and, and this is day the deal to make davie then so once for the decent motional reaction get either you are talking about. but also in terms of the reason why we have these new vianza. so we have cold, it will be made day begins it, so without a global vaccination, without giving access to any human beings up to the vaccines, the risk of new var yansa ada. very high aga, and we can not blame. most of these is another aspect of it for us is that he's one of concern. we cannot, we cannot blame the south africa, scientists at all to hook for having a i opened a door to the scientific community about these new discovery. i something on saudi

eagles and put at risk the future because maybe in the future other country will not discover, would not open the door to the discovery side or do the scientific community, sir, for the fia to find her id there. are there a garage or all that there sanction select, they will do. sal guppy, iowa was affected dia, immediately after the army on one co vance in w h o. back program in developed and developing countries. they, they differ during the pandemic while they different priorities. do you think callbacks i think was a, was a good idea. unfortunately, e is not working as expected. so the number of distribution out of the vaccine. so i'll go on my callback sir, is i ism, is not so high aga, and we, we expected much more ride themself, general cd from the international community. and there, and there, the idea that was a good idea. he was there to, to give their priority in terms of distribution baycove access for the medical

doctors to the nurses that are working on the frontline. but unfortunately this is working or less the 50 percent so far. so the numbers are very, very, very law. and this is her eyes and i did an aspect of the international community should take as easily consideration. so we have to do more intensive distribution. and giving access is, is basically your, your, your biggest concern is that there has to be more done to, to further spread vaccines around the world, particularly to the developing countries. we're talking about these, how do we do that though? and this is about the will of the international community, the wheeler of decide, by day the government and the political leaders. that these is the top priority. if we want to recover the 2nd and any calls, which is a da da da da boy, a t and a social consequences are over all over the pandemic. we have to give access to live a scene. there is no other way. this is why am i repeating always these because these is what should be we, we should be focused on and, and we, we have door, but sure. on the pharmaceutical companies are there european union,

the united states, a u. k. we invested the b, unsolved dollars in the researcher due to the door to make this vaccine accessible . so why the poorest counting the developing counties that, that they have not de, right that to have access. so i think this is, should be a common board, not something that said belong to the, to the farmer central your company, and rody, let me finish. this is an important point. i'm not knife, this is a very complex issue, but i'm not doubling your lead of their political leaders. so they wanted to be political either just to deal with the complexity. and they, yes, to find the did, they did this solution to give access to every one so, so he cannot win billy eyes. and because it seems to me you're saying this has been politicized. and has it been politicized? says the beginning. they believe me did it on them, it has been politicized her. look at they, they did, they did the level of the fake news or the day even political leaders so helped to spread around the water. so this is something that unfortunate has been put. this

iser bukasa you test to do with the fear of the people i tell you when you made america anyway, when it, when it comes about fear of the community when he come. so they did it many believe you really are ready to jump in. this is part of the diesel jasa, as i talked to all of us is, is there a lot of propagation of fear behind or little perhaps the fear is warren, via theories. normally because arnold where every everything that the that is new and could be potentially dental. this is something, this is something that everyone i should meet should be concerned or anger and but so then it's up to the political leader to follow. they, they advise is coming from their sankey community to least and that to them to war with them to avoid her to. ready to, to vote at the, on the same level and is also the media is an important responsibility. this and tv community and people there to read something on the, on, on google i in the, on the, on the, on the very strange website that bordner thousands, warner round

a. they did it, they call the 19, this is, this is a see to see sure. all right, so he's a lesson learned and i'm saying these because we learned these less, i'm not really doing that during the crisis reading, i want to practice, we have to red cross requests and we learned how is important to deal with the community. and historically, this is where we, we always had to deal with that. we defeat era and doors. it were spreading. the fagin, yours about our doors were spreading our dcs around there. remember me, lima, in the, in the 16th century that we had to do so definitely disease that they did respond danica and manzona importantly. tell you, i'm right there. wrote down inside book about it. mm. what is the national mood? i suppose it depends on what kind of media you consume to say the nation is divided in highly partisan is an understatement. this is certainly what the national media

wants us to think. what are we really so divided on what really matters? join me every 1st bit on the alex simon. sure. i'll be speaking to guess on the world politics sport. business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. mm ah, isn't it on you being a no, no, no, no, but i did a valuable. mm hm. not that big, my middle now, i own my head up my lap, and i had a new knuckle. pamela, but you didn't thought no alarming up here a bit, a well, i mean, a happy correlation suburban i, tonia,

not in a boon . as we understand mister rocha lays reports, half of the entire country of afghanistan is facing starvation. how could we get to this point? this is a very serious question. concept from my from of course, very long time. and these who start to die before almost before decries is it will your watched on tv and, and i watched read concern before. oh wooster. we saw in the last 2 years the growth from 43 percent up to 55. but it's santa, the level of poverty in

a little by an address enough kidney stone. and i did the afghanistan is affected by 9 historical drought in many provinces. and now the political dr. yourself course has aggravated the situation. although only organizations getting involved with helping afghanistan at this point, cuz you said it's not just in the rural communities as also in the urban centers. people are starving nowadays. they did, they ask, i would go since he's doing great work since before we are working in 2021, probably tisa distributing, ford, assisting community and assisting about vaccination programs. not about copied about other diseases and i saw we were present. and if international i for the patient is present in the country, she's more than 20 years now. supporting people of, out of afghanistan. but it's all changed to matt now that all the shots that we are at, we are now with the winter coming or the cold season coming or are all the condition

for the best for you any day? a storm. so really i'm a graduate. so what are your priorities then in afghanistan, what comes top of the list for you to do there? to have to have the in of course, to have access and is, is we are talking, we did taliban governments on a daily basis on our own, e dot and so far is workinger. and of course i, this is a really big point early. it's a, it is about the sanctions and he says because he could be read as a political statement, which is not. but sir, but they have to deal with the political consequences or we did, we did it did the concert when he did the political decision are having got on the life of the people are soul. we do need, we don't need, ah, to war to have access to the cash to wherever, to over the possibility the all to work in a different form and our now sanctions are affecting the world that way we are working. and not only us, i, you all you money to an organization, of course,

but this is not the 1st time that i will even see that we are, we have exposing it, are you getting help from the international community when it comes to your projects, for example, afghanistan, is it just you guys there? are you getting the help you need? no, no, no, we are getting her. and we're we, we are receiving or we are a supporter. many government, sarah sustaining our, our, our project and in defense of oh, to the eye providing fossils of bladder organization to the, to the un agencies. but then, once again, that is at ease at the feeling that the processes varies little about, i'm importing gold and, and all of these ice and something that easily affected that when you've got a big job for you and your organizations in afghanistan, you've been there more than 20 years during which you can, let's now turn if we can to that of the recent migrant crisis in europe. mr. rocha, our recent migrant crisis, has a know, you know, you'll very well aware of the story. it flared up on the poland, fed bella, russ border. how has the red cross been helping those people?

they're not providing either providing food, assisting them in day, in the shelter. so we do restore from you lisa, and there. did it better to switch cross with this with both of the international federation. i think that the moment they're doing a, a good job. of course, this is not not to meet 10 more long term solution at the area hosted in a shelter area. but so far they are in a warm environment and then we are engaging in attic discussion. we de been the government of barrows to find either solution. now for them, are you finding both guffman, so in minsk and in warsaw, are they both being helpful or is there a bit of a combativeness going on? because at this honda and put on the unfortunately we don't have access to the book . you don't have access to this post side of the border and not you asked or access to it. of course we have acts dying. we, we don't sold isa. this is the eyes, the difference. and once again, this is not the believe your 2nd get these a factor, asshole we, we, we, we don't have access and i'm going to got access to one side of the board of the

bell russian side of the border. i didn't, we didn't make a rush inside the and that's what you've been handing out the, the aid, the tense, the food, the joy close. actually these is juanita is what we are. these is what we are doing . and i stuff we started regoza. you see the in, once again, the emotional reaction now cammie and got to a p and level about isa crises, which is not the writing to be we are talking about. see, one is of fever and some one also a call that a day him, the un security council for few hundreds of disparate people are seeking that the border saw once again as, as has been accused of some wine has been accused of using their magazine. so as opposed to got dollar as a matter of fact the is true, but is true. not embarrass impala now. is through that up in a last year i get bored, get away turkey and greece or is so dead now in u. k. i did it bait is very big straw that uniquely there did. there is

a lot of denisia in the, in the magazine use as apple, you got all, she's front of it, but salmon and, and, and another aspect i mentioned that turkey and greece. so now is barrels fall under last year it was a turkey and greece anonymity there and your router is open. we have the boss can router a doors were stacker with the boss. now it's never, you can not set up the desperation. they will always find that a route you can't stop. we have and we are fixing gracie sir, that within it fiction. the crisis missile rocker is the red cross helping with moving any of these migrants to, to the final destination like germany or the u. k. arisen or family and so forth. we immediately engage with the governments because we know that many of the magnets that us, daphne of connection and families, a member of their families, are just leaving in the country of this you nation, where they want to arrive. so we, we try to fulfill the data, any some location, eyes of competition on we, we, we do, we, we, we, we, we achieve, these are assault that we ever red line mad sir. we are fully did it because of

route for example. you okay. we have the british red cross with the french. what grove you that y'all, it goes, it's all we, we stay connected through their store, family links and, and we, we facilitate a psychiatrist unions because some are some of these migrants who are coming across to bell russian polish border. quite a lot of them are from northern iraq as a courtesy our northern region rot. these are people coming from a war zone. these are people coming from years of war. they get to the european border. they get sprayed with some sort of a tear gas pepper spray soaking clothes, sub 0 temperatures. a lot of these people said enough, we're going to go back. we're going back to a former was i'm because it's better that than it is here. does that surprise you at all? no, i'm not surprised because this is not the 1st time that we are experiencing these to be, to be honest. and i are, fortunately, am not even than these. as i said, he's on a full consent for my says that i'm not surprised about

a european union now, and they were just county ira reacting, guy in dealing with the human beings. this is, and i'm wondering if we are losing our humanity because he's not about every county has the right to say that policies for migrations. we have not question. it's about i a, did the humanity on which we have to do or what to treat every human beings. this is the only point that we are racing. well said, my last, my last couple of questions for you before i let you go. i know you're very busy, man. why are you here in moscow? what are you doing in russia at 1st studies, ah, and import and gatherings or gathering of volunteers, a theory now in moscow. oh boy, when you're coming from different organization that dealt the we, did we, the been very, we the coffee, 19, a colder we are together. but of course also to meet a russian with cross lead a sheep, or there is a new core. so of the russia with cross and so to support them to least an hour

baldera expectation, denzil, so puerto, from the international federation about, of course, in terms of all future corporation and collaboration, also the international level with the rational read what wrote about russian vaccines are you guys considering bringing on russian vaccines to the red cross or i met, i met yesterday, they did a, the mini, so vale and i, and of course it is an important expectations because dance of counties recognize the dispute. the vaccines saw, we actually did it the and the government told the russian federation to support. did anybody to facilitate the access today? because we spoke mika, and i'm quite optimistic. that means so promise me that. that is going to facilitate the bug cuz he and, and, and dad may help. so we'll do even answer. what did i say? this is a medical medical regulated health regulator, i should say picket, pardon, still waiting, still waiting to approve. wouldn't agree after all these months, and you mentioned to me recently that this how this panoramic has been politicized when it comes to russian vaccines being approved by the european regulators. that

seems like a case, a blatant case of it being politicized. well, maybe i'm wrong. i want to jump in that what, what i did because i had so very, very, very, very sensitive and valuable. you got questions? as i said then, so by the counties in europe, but we have, i think that there we have enough look seats. we have talking about countries that don't ought to have access to live exceeds and man you counties have recon mags day to day the sport because you know, sol, let's what we discount theresa. this is a political dialogue. i do think that they something strange because it is not working. why they i'm saying that this is not working for the enough. it's all there and all for all my from him. i know dad prolonging got a discussion and this is something that, of course, posed some questions about duties on why, but that is not up to me. i'm not, as i said, i'm not the medical doctor, would you agree that? mm hm. at the end of the day, it's not politics, it should be people's health. exactly. exactly. mm.

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