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[000:00:00;00] the who's welcome to the alex, i mean sure where we examine the consequences of cop 26 in glasgow. was that much delete and much handle did summit a success or failure and just our planet saved or did i do these type of crisis and stimulate great art? we've talked to 2 young arthur, how the captain and fair class, whose work has been inspired by the climate money of the glasgow summit. we asked you his hold in professor carbon capture on storage at the university of edinburgh for his hopes for the summit. now you to turn to the show to provide the expert
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runtime on the successes and failures of 26. but 1st to teach him of i met just in the sponsor i show last week with lord sick of a member of parliament. i guess brandon mcneal owners, i'm in relation to the house of lords andrew david williams says, you mean what they're doing is wasting time. taxpayer money as effort doing things that parliament has already reject it and will reject again. charming dose as peers give out the power it can go on. there's been an extreme depletion and what integrity there was since the days of david cameron market, peter says another excellent program are relaxed to mature. introduce bank statistics and alex and finally william nickle, who says, please try and give steps of hope. i mention alex and just me know, always a brilliant show. i've been watching corruption government for far too long now. they go into government with good intentions, i believe. but end up joining the clicks on chloe's stacy,
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thanks again. now over to alex and professor j hazelynn to an ice pack of cock $26.00. professor stewart, his of the welcome back to the alley, simon. show, please to be here. thank you very much. so ashley christmas. well, well, what are christmas? so we want to know was cop 22nd. so a christmas present for the the planet or was it hangal or was that the balance between success and failure that that's huge summit. i went to the cock per several times several days in glasgow and i was quite surprised about the diversity of what goes on. so the actual main par negotiation of the cop ah, is the political part that's behind closed doors. and that produced a mixed bag of results. the other part of the course, the majority of people are my release, convincing each other of what they've done, what they can do, what needs to be done. and in motivation and in civic society and trying to hold
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political leaders to account that was a huge success, i think so that the mobilization impact of that the glasgow summit was considerable . and that is a team. and given the interval in times of covered and, and crisis, but the actual decisions that may you describe them as a mixed bag. okay, what was good and what was bad? okay, so start with the not so good. so and alex sharma, the chair of the cop, you can check the carpet laid out for things before people assembled in glasgow. one was to come with better pledges to reduce carbon dioxide emissions from different countries that was not a success. so very few countries turned out with extra pledges. very few countries are made a big commitment which wasn't already known. and so that is a problem, a major problem for the world in that before the cup the world was heading for about 3 and a half degrees of global warming by the end of the century. and we're still now
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heading for $2.00 degrees of global warming. so some progress, but nothing like enough. and i'll just remind the views that we've already had, maybe just 1 point one degrees of warming. and that's clearly causing major disruptions in whether a rainstorm, snow, or heat waves, forest fire. and so heading further into that territory is a really big problem. so that's got to improve in the next caught in the cop after that. the 2nd type of thing was to ask countries for plans to adapt into climate change and very little activity was seen on that. ah, but the 3rd thing i think was sir, was half achieved. there is better pledges on climate finance because the rich countries had agreed. something like 10 or 11 years ago to pledge a $100000000000.00 a year and have never managed to meet that. so it's got up to about sort of 60 or $80000000000.00 a year, which is still a lot of money,
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but nothing like is needed to change the way the world operates and all the money didn't arrive. that there was a, a very serious conversation about paying differently next year, arch, odd, re discussing that next year. so i am optimistic that will happen. and one of several of the big things which positive things which happened were the 4 thing which alex sharma set out. the paris rulebooks that safe cause in paris. in 2015, the world came together and pledged to try and keep climate change below 1.5 degrees and definitely to keep it well below 2 degrees. and the rules for that of never been completely sorted out and those were much better sorted out. now how to count carbon dioxide emissions between different countries, and particularly what's called article 6, which is a rule about how to, how some countries can dispose of more carbon dioxide in their country and sell at extra stored carbon dioxide to a different country, which maybe is not quite so advantaged, so that was
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a big move forward. and then there were also the interesting thing is breakage into smaller groups really to not to ask the whole cup of a 190 countries to decide on something. but groups of 30 or 40 countries, notably to discuss or moving beyond coal, or which ended up being to decrease cold not to cancel coal, but i think that's a really important conversation. because for the 1st time, countries started discussing decreasing the ability or decreasing the right or to extract fossil fuel out of the ground, unless that's mitigated by storing carbon dioxide. and so that's started to converse, i'm sure that will come back next year and it'll be a short step from coal to asking oil and gas companies, what they are doing about extracting oil and gas and how they're going to clean up their own emissions. and then another big step forward was to sign a pledge on me, st emissions. me saying is natural gas, we know it,
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but occurs quite from extracted out to the ground and pipeline. and there are many leaks along those pipelines. and there are many leaks in the gas distribution systems. and so that's a really powerful greenhouse gas. so restricting those leaks and reducing that methane impact by something like 40 percent by 2030 is a really strong climate action. and it's that agreement on methane, which are reduced to warming from about 3 and a bit degrees down to $2.00. so it wasn't anything to do a carbon dioxide is that methane agreement. so as a scientist or climate change x that does us give her the scientific community, huge frustration that was on the brink of this precipice meant political leaders have a decision making span that seems to seems to be taking far, far too long. yeah, and i think that frustration is felt by many people working professionally in that
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climate science community. but it's especially felt by the people in ordinary civic society, if you like to travel from all over the u. k. to demonstrate and make their views known in glasgow. indeed travel from many parts of the world to make their views known and report back from their experience of climate change. and so moving slowly is really a terrible option to take. and because i mentioned earlier on that serve as part of paris, the world has agreed to try and keep climate change to less than 1.5 degrees of warming. and although there's lots of talk about keeping $1.00 alive as a slogan, in reality that's going to be almost impossible because we need to decrease carbon dioxide emissions and greenhouse gases by 10 percent next year, and 10 percent and the year after that and 10 percent the year after that and when nowhere near doing any of the at. so it looks to me as though the lack of action on climate pledges to decrease,
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carbon emissions is not forthcoming. and that means i think we'll be crushing through that 1.5 degrees. warming pledge from paris some time in the 20 early 20. thirty's. that you. it's a disaster we're seeing coming. it's a disaster, worse duck behind the steering wheel of the car, watching the wall come towards us and we need to release, increase the pace and do something much more radical. this penny a single finding a 3rd window to enter the summit and noisy, tried to water down the commitments at the very end of the summit. but as the you can't sell fully enthusiastic about one of his great opportunities of tab and capture enough being done a with the potential that them as off the shores of scotland. but i think that's a great question because the u. k is talking a good talk and it's clearly traveling along the route towards greater climate action, but it's not actually matching it's talk with it's practical actions. and so that
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what's being ignored at the moment or 2 of the projects in the u. k which are both past the criteria for success. one of those is the acorn project in scotland as you and i know very well which is a very interesting project because importantly, it gets access for the 1st time to about 80 percent of the different geological varieties of storage in the north sea. so opens up a huge realm of opportunity. and even if some of that storage doesn't work technically than the other parts will because it's really well understood really well known from the oil and gas industry. from literally decades and decades of exploration and production work, which the oil and gas industry holds the records of and is accessible for use by carbon dioxide storage developers. so to ignore that at this stage seems a strange way of behaving because that's a really low risk, safe and secure way of developing a carbon storage project. and it also means that you can engage very large parts of the oil and gas,
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the offshore industry. i should say really offshore engineering and construction, which is based around aberdeen, the east of scotland and down into northern england. so it's a way of helping those people with highly skilled jobs to transition into this new green ah, carbon storage climate friendly opportunities which we have in the u. k. so you're saying, ironically, perhaps the knowledge is being gained by the extraction of hydrocarbons from the nor see that geological knowledge pervades, perhaps the, the key to, to storing a substantial amount of europe's carboned outside. yeah, it's really clear that term, the u. k. and in particular, the scottish part of the u. k. sits on a huge carbon storage asset. something like her half of the carbon dioxide storage in the north sea is off shore of scotland. and it's also clear that north sea carbon dioxide storage held jointly between scotland, norway,
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and her. the offshore east of england, part of the u. k. was a little bit nervously. that's the storage which is needed for all of europe. because many of the nation states in europe, which are a netherlands, germany, france, are poland, cannot access huge carbon storage or in their own domestic territory. so it's very probable and it's been planned for many years. in fact, that term shipping of carbon dioxide or pipeline of carbon dioxide from those european states can easily come to the north sea, be accepted by countries like scotland, the u. k. annoy and be stored safely and securely deep beneath the north sea where it is well understood. she logical, safe and secure storage and where it can be monitored and detected for decades and decades to come to make sure that carbon dioxide is staying exactly where it's been put. so this is a, a continental scale opportunity we have here. so just say if we can land to look at
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carbon capture facilities as a resource in the same way as we'll look into renewable resourcing, and then our see that might be the well, the greatest christmas present answer the world has had for some time, i say it's almost a negligent way of behaving, to not push ahead with this type of development as fast as possible. absolutely clear. but just to calvin, calvin storage, industrial regions are not going to be sufficient to deliver the amount of carbon dioxide and the rate of progress she needed that's needed. and that's why the scottish acorn project opens up so much extra territory. so let's hope the new year grass that new opportunity professors trip hazelton. thank you so much for joining me once again. on the alex salmon show. pleasure. thank you. join us after the break. when alex examines how the artistic community are responding to the climate emergency receiving
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ah, ah ah welcome back. in italy for 30 years and a boy just he had warfare, tedder, murder, i'm bloodshed, but they produce michelangelo, lee and i did eventually i'm doing it in switzerland. they had brotherly love to have 500 years of democracy and peace. and what did that to produce? the cookie cook,
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now and also else and started these very lines as heidi lighting the cosmetic, val, in the heart of the foam, the 3rd man released in 1949. he always start to realize that they were to resonate as a classic assertion that times of crisis produced. great art definitely seems to hold to for climate change as a deepening crisis, respond to whole generation of films, documentaries, and novels. that's how i the music and facial i helping us to understand the crisis . alex speaks to to young artists whose work is centered on environmental emergency . first, italian tactic is a london based artist and environmental field. he is his art to deliver a message about climate change. i'm plastic pollution while to pull any award and classical brittany compose their state a class premier to music at cop 26. the target cup ciocca. welcome to val examine show. hi. it's great to see and beautiful christmas. you're
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on a background. thank you that though you're like solution, the loss planner. um it does indicate that the environment is a huge inspiration for your out. absolutely. i had an amazing show in london and october and it's about the environment belt sustainability about our beautiful planet. and environment has always been an important topic for me. i've been blessed to be travel around the world to see the most beautiful and unique part of the world. but at the same time, the most destroyed and polluted by humans. and in 2019 i was traveling. it's raining in and i was shocked with the amount of plastic i collected at the beaches and the previous, the beautiful and deserted beaches. and these inspired me twos to create a few art works related to plastic pollution and the more travel, the more devastation i could see,
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like wild fires melting glass here is all spills. this was quite talking to me and then the series of my art works grew and grew to 34 pieces. so each one is about a different part of the world to show the beautiful 4 in our ecosystems. and at the same time, to draw awareness to the planets fly, and each artwork has a story behind it. as part of your exhibition and love the news you hosted the top, the discussion. this is to plan after dying centrally. so you actually had a focused environmental, almost a political discussion, this part of your exhibition of visual lots of interesting combination. yes, absolutely. basically, i wanted to maximize the impact of my message of climate, especially because art is such a powerful tool to, to express hard how abuse and emotions. and i organize that panel discussion price
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breakfast were invited, key meteor and representatives from plastic, ocean earth, orange, royal geographic society barrier gardener. the kind of was told by a journalist and maybe see present to some on siemens. and the topic was broad enough to discuss many shows that the plan, if the space in at the moment, and also was held at the on the 26th, which i think what was the perfect timing natalia? your exhibition was also illustrated of oxford street, 1612167 building. it was like as a visual artist to, to look at your, your artwork being displayed as tens of thousands of people go by. one of the busiest follow fails of london. it was really, truly unique experience and i even hosted a small party with my friends. we opened
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a few bottles of champagne and drinking people passing by and enjoying the my art. so i'm mediate. i created it during the 1st lockdown. i was actually pregnant and it was a very uncertain timing. and i didn't. it was lots of mixed feelings about our planet, the future, what i really for our future generations. and i decided to create a new installation as actually based on viable chapters from the formation of life on earth is the story of adam and eve, and full by money and power oriented human behavior, which eventually leads to 6. 96 extension on earth is pretty dramatic media about very impactful. my idea was to make the us think
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about the future power planets and to make some changes in their daily life. well, those time your one of these path is i'll explain a little via the medium for you. you can use natural products. would van stone? i translate into the, into the electronic presentation. i actually, i use next year. so i use some natural materials and as well as some industrial ones from natural, for example, sand fermented mos o'kahn, ec stones. we take a lot like from strong bully will cain a tree bark from siberia, which are personally collect or industrial ones? we shows that interconnection of everything in the world and we humans, we have to be thoughtful while using both natural and main made resources. i know you're going to buy for rights for press the was coming up off of what's coming up next for natalia culture. yes,
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i'm here and it's experts in the mean time. i'm waiting for your art works as an amber in. there were very excited when this so my art works dedicated plastic pollution because they are pioneers and marine protection. and they said no using plastic bags and single use plastic and i brain into our 1st year dictated to to this issue, global issue, plastic collision. ok. so now at the moment time, same here, the expert still march. so the next step is the exhibition to south korea in the, one of the museums. and as for my video installation is traveling around the world . it will be showcase in france in trophy to told it came on. and so that france, i mean, full a visual off to stick straw to thank you so much for joining me now. examine. sure
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. thank you. alex was great to i'm delighted to be joined by say the class, the composite will read them off. i thank you very much for your show. was it like a commission like rhythm of the f b from the drinker also your from channels. i mean that must have been quite a moment when you are being signed up to produce that score. well, it was, it was very like a great song. and it happened because i wrote to him explaining how i felt the music in motion to music. confound message consultation. and it was a an hour for in this letter because i heard about terry call to his project. and to my surprise, he wrote back and asked me to write to see. so it was, it was amazing, you know, terra cotta and a sustainable market initiative is,
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is all about nature and the value of nature. so i felt really contribute. so i would say july when he wrote back off the theme, i just, you know, i just about getting something down very quickly. does the classical music in particular have something to offer a theme lightly environment and that's obviously something eternal about. the environment is something particular the classical music has to offer as a really interesting question because i've always felt that i've been exposed to classical music from a very early age. and i felt that timelessness of it, which is in nature, to go together. and i think that is the escape for me. classical music has this and this infinite beautiful quality to it. i think i return to as a premium, i mean to the scape and i think nature does that to said to me, the 2 things together. and i was go talk that way, no, nothing the woodlands and loving music in marrying the 2 together. so just
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a part of a, ah, ah, that's lovely stuff. i see a very thought provoking sara. one final question, what if you are glittering achievements? the style is a score for the bbc, africa, c, d 's because that was fronted by the the legend. so david optima was a white walking with a legend like him. well i'm, i think it,
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he, david is very particular about music and i think he's, he's a video with him and refilled him as well. and i've mentioned a few times and i like the fact that he's particular and he knows what he wants. so, you know, he's a very musical person, he plays a, has a beautiful grand canyon. and so i feel i felt like i, i was definitely i had to, i had to stay on my god and be very, very precise. but i know that he like music music, he said to africa. so i was very read about that. so yes, i can say that he knows what he's talking about. i like many people that sort of what you got coming up. i mean, you staying on this environmental fee, which is so much past your music or is that something else and might well,
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i got the resonates all them coming out in the beginning of february. and that is, that is about the value of nature and the power of music. and also in doing a national geographic for 10 part series. so. so be keep me busy for most of the year, i think. but yeah, no i'm, i'm not being all the variety. i think in this one. i think it's a little bit different to your usual castro. so i mean, i do sing a song writer style music as well. so i like to mix it up. we'll look forward to that. they'd say that in the meantime. thank you so much for joining me . i'll examine show thank you so much. alex, real delight, you. k hosted a summit which was built as the last best hope of saving the planet. some progress is made, but even the will start a i to see it as an adequate to meet the task and how much is made of the context
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which did not turn up what top delegations, and those which are still determined to war, to die in their climate obligations, no country does finger pointing better than the key. however, little notice was taken that the horse country itself in the run up to the summit water don't. it's commitment to technology which it cannot meet its own climate change targets. by ditching the latest in a long lane of scottish proposals for carbon capture, they don't think government turned their back on a scheme which could potentially provide a carbon think for one 3rd of youtube's c o. 2 emissions. i still have it in, i guess not to find out if this dramatic opportunity could actually deliver the hope for icons represents folly of the highest order. indeed, feature artists might portrayed as history repeating itself as both farce and
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tragedy. but now from alex myself and all this too is good bye stacy. and we hope to see you all again next. ah . * ah, a video almost share my screen with can sure to coordinate a way to blue your skin boehme,
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e a v g like you to form a . but what i want you to talk, somebody with waste figured out those, they might not that issue with the long term with the dynamism the ecosystem of planet earth predictably is dying because there's too much pollution, whether it's landfill pollution, pollution or in the rivers pollution in the oceans pollution in the air, chemical pollution, permanent gamma compilation, all the bio systems are dying. so humans effectively estimating mass, suicide,
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