ah, tonight, but imitates an edge, is immediate talks to stop further. nato expansion towards russia's board is in a telephone conversation with british prime minister boris johnson. made ongoing speculation over the situation in ukraine and accusations towards russia up to a 100 of fed, dead after tornadoes ripped through central and southern parts of the united states . but the disaster also underlines the country deep political divide with some politicians already trying to score points from the tragedy. and the sudanese who say they've been betrayed and had the dreams destroyed. we've a special report into the 1000 strong protests gripping the capital cartoon that since october cooper. ah,

oh, hello, live from out international moscow? it's kevin oh, in here with our world news at one i am brick of morning to let him a potent has held a telephone conversation with british prime minister boris johnson with the current global hot topic, the crane situation to highlight the president. also an immediate talks to try to create a global legal framework to stop native expansion towards russia's borders. and his correspondent daniel hawkins report. well, he talks between the u. k. prominence and russian president follows similar discussions between the presidents of russia and the united states. just a few days ago, and the focus was very much the same ukraine and the tensions on the ukraine, russian border. and after this conversation, it is clear that differences do remain in terms of threat perception, ideas on where exactly the threat is coming from and where the problems lie. the russian president pointed out that ukraine's use of heavy weaponry and combat

drones on the d. more cation line. so i think that as a violation of them is protocols, which of course, forbid the presence of foreign troops in the break away by region and the use of heavy military weaponry on that location line of lottery. putin pointed out that this use of the weaponry as well as discrimination of russian speakers in ukraine or violations of the men's protocols. indeed, the biggest concern for the russian president was the increasing presence of nato military nato troops in ukraine, and indeed nato expansion. eastwards that is something that has been a concern for the russian president for russia for a number of years and has often been a spanner in the works on improving relations between russia and the west for quite some time. this is the suggestion that flooded me put and brought to the table in some as a resolving those concerns from both sides. fly them are put in stated the need to immediately begin negotiations with the aim of working out precise international

legal agreements that would exclude and further nate expansion, east and the deployment of weapons threatening russia neighboring states, primarily in ukraine. now the crime prime minister came up, things of the thought, a different approach cooler in russia to reduce tensions from their own side. citing the importance of respecting ukraine's sovereignty and integrity that, of course, that comes as a reference to the let's build up. a russian troops on ukraine is border. he did call for or log and respectful the miss protocols from both sides though, but it is clear from miss meeting differences do remain and between how to resolve this ongoing crisis in terms of the good news. both leaders did agree that progress had been made on climate change. g suzette, the cop, 26 and glasgow and did agree that collaboration between moscow and london is crucial to make progress on international issues. so at least some good news, perhaps there are in the run up to christmas. devastating stormed rips through

central and southern parts of america over the weekend. the state of kentucky suffered the worst damage. the governor now saying that 64 died there were more than a 100 remain missing. president biden's declared at major federal disaster in the state. these are satellite images from before and after. in the city of mayfield, more than a 100 people were trapped inside a collapse factory building 8 died and the same number is still missing. destruction was also reported in arkansas, missouri, tennessee, and illinois were at least 6 died in an amazon company warehouse. president biden says, his administration's ready to do whatever is needed to help those reeling from the devastation a with the worst most devastating, most deadly tornado event in kentucky. history

from our hometown and just devastating everybody's wall there was were shaking house collapse in against you can see where the whole house was buckled, the well back sided. it houses off the total devastation for our town. multiple stores, buildings are now gone with with this is likely to be one of the largest committee operates who history

them terrible seems they will disasters highlighted to a sharp rift between republicans and democrats. with some politicians seemingly trying to take advantage of the tragedy. nicky iron's go more on that side of it, and higher towns were destroyed as some 30 powerful tornadoes, ravaged across 6 us states. the worst effected can saki, and needs help support and relief aid. and so it turns to the government and fellow americans. but politics is politics, and it seems not even a monumental disaster like this one can bridge america's political divide. and some believe it's a perfect opportunity to show that you reap what you sow. when hurricane hobby hit in 2017, the 17 senators. he voted against the bill to provide billions of dollars in relief . were all republicans among them. kentucky, the senator runs pole. once again, thousands of suffering, but there's no time like the present for political punches. we should do all we can

to help our kentucky neighbors. good be wisdom. they're hurting, but do not for one second. forget that rand pole has voted against helping most americans, most times very need. we know, rand paul is a heartless hypocrite. the people in kentucky deserved a relief regardless of their before in his leadership. but the dams don't use this against him and his party in the future. it is a missed opportunity for some, it's not even off limits to suggest that if you vote read, then you had it coming, vote for climate change, denial, and see what happens. tornadoes in december read, but weather climate change was a factor is not clear at this point. still is the country reels and shock and concerns. i have a climate change peak. it could also play into the democrats hands as they bid to push a $1.00 trillion dollar climate package through the senate. all that i know is that the intensity of the weather across the mortgage has some impact as

a consequence of the warming of the planet in the climate change. and so it seems something as devastating as this can only what the appetite for those looking to score political points. there is nothing that a politician ever does or says that surprises me. there is nothing that is above them or below them. i think that they're going to anytime that any bad thing happens, that they think that they can use as a justification to push for more control. they're going to, i don't think it's appropriate. i think it's political posturing for the worst reason. a disaster is a disaster and it was going to happen regardless. it was going to happen whether or not we had cap and trade or the new green deal or anything else. i think it also shows the increasing home renovation and partisanship and division in the us. instead of looking at people as human beings, we look at them as red or blue or independent. we look at them as some abstraction instead of what they are human being that in this case are suffering terribly right

now. i don't care how they voted, and i don't think anyone else should care how they voted either in this morning. no us personnel will be liable for botched drones striking cobble in august the killed 10 civilians including 7 children after the government called it a tragic mistake. the pentagon spokesman said the decision to refrain from punishment was made for an internal review. do not anticipate there being issues of personal accountability to be had with respect to the august 29th here strike. it happened just a day before the u. s. for the shed, it's pull out from afghanistan. the attack of the time was to target his law. make state terrorists, but was based, it seems on faulty intelligence. the u. s. apologize, sophia communication breakdown in our special project i heard voices, we had from relatives of the victims of a deadly attack. her saw thought the sandals belong to malika on the morning of the bombing. she came and kissed me and said,

good morning father. it was our last meeting. yeah, i will never see her again. my name is amanda, muddy. and i'm the head of the family that has lost 10 of its members. it was around $430.00 p. m. i left for the market. and on the way i met my elder brother who was driving back home. we talked a little bit then he left to go home and i crossed the road to go to the other side . i just crossed the road and i heard an explosion. my daughter later told me that she saw a smaller craft at room moving around in a circle which then fired a missile about hitch or hole. i turned to look out of there was dust and smoke clodagh. it was a terrible scene. i went in to my home on fun, my brother and a nephew. they were critically injured, but still alive and breathing. they later died in hospital. my brother and 9 others were killed in this horrific attack. my brother's daughter, who was soon to get married, also lost her life. another relative was also here,

a guest. she was killed too. oh, as bush my love's cosmetics, she likes painting her nails, but she like dolls very much on the main coals of the instant was the american president planning attack without any evidence and destroying our families. it was a catastrophe. they say, i says k lived in this house in this house, were these children members of isis a stupid thought without any proof, without any investigation. and they attacked us and killed our children, and we will never forgive them. let's get some thoughtfulness from so who knows full well what it's like to operate a drone form, a u. s. military drone operator brand and bryan. hey there a brother. thanks for your time today. first off, you surprise to hear that this is no official liability. gotta be lodged to that

one here and when, if you former colleagues well i can't say that i'm surprised i had hoped for otherwise i'm, you know, it's been 10 years since i blew the whistle on the u. s. drone program will be 10 years in 5 days, actually. um and to see that nothing has changed, even when it's blatantly out in front of everyone's face. how we operate. um and no one's being held accountable. like we've been talking about this for 10 years now. when i 1st started talking by people called me a liar, people tried to defame me, and now that we see it for what it actually is, innocence had been killed. not just innocent and innocent aid worker who was there trying to help because of a decision that they wanted to kill, that they were scared they were trying to hurt someone. you know, you're well either listener. what, what would your thoughts pay for the friends family loved ones of those that died to my the people who tried to seek justice it well i,

i heard in the end of the class clip that they said they will not forgive. and i would like to say that forgiveness isn't for the other person, it's for yourself so that you can move on. and you do not need to. 6 to let it go, you need justice. there needs to be justice. every single person needs to pursue justice, no matter how weak or stronger they are and but not forgive is more hurtful towards the person that is not forgiving them. the person that has done the wrong because the people that have done the wrong, they don't care. obviously for months another minute, i want to come on to other min out effects that don't operate. but 1st of all, to agree with the pentagon official position here that this deadly attack wasn't the result of negligence, misconduct, to pull leadership. no, it was probably a factor of every single one of those. i

really think to be knighted states has lost knowledge on how to conduct warfare and it's now a business. so it's not necessarily war as in how it should be ran as if, as in, according to son who's the art of war. it is war as a business. they're making money. they're not going to punish the people that make them money. they're just going to punish the people that are says the suppose it enemies in the, the ones that you asked munitions on. but in your tell you it and you did this in best. good faith for you did it for in the 1st place, your colleagues would probably have done the same to from your experience as a drone operate and what could have led to this tragedy. then you're not doing it purposely. not necessarily. i don't think the crew it shouldn't be the crew that finance should should never be the credit punished. it's like punishment. soward for being able to cut who should be punished are the officers the officer class in the united states military are a bunch of filthy pigs. excuse me,

i was about to swear i didn't i but there are bunch of filthy pigs and they are the ones that should be held accountable. and in fact, the person, it's in the chain of command that makes this decision on whether to strike or not. i believe that we should go back to the old ways and hang the person that made the wrong decision on the front. know how vitally important this is? i mean, no one is either a themselves no. instead of the found themselves on that side or to have their sovereign, how strongly you feel about this. and they put it another way. how could mistakes in identifying the target like this have been made? this is real high technology equipment and state of the art. how can i go so badly wrong, or is it does it just literally go the, the game? i suppose that this thing is, these kind of, i'm very unfortunate incidence are going to happen from time to time, no matter how spot on your kit is. well, that go leads him to the argument, then we cannot ever call this a complete surgical stainless warfare. right. and there's,

there's always going to be mistakes and there's going to be mistakes and you have to be held accountable for take responsibility for it. ah, there's 2 factors that could go wrong in this complacency and a deliberate misinformation. and someone either made a mistake along the, the chain of command red decisions are made and they got complacent. ah, and lazy or someone made a deliberate error or was given deliberately wrong information and action action on wrong information or impact to mistakes. so terrible would say get like that, but these kind of mistakes have on drone operators like you and this kind of thing happens in any official capacity there's, there's no real punishment paperwork, i can tell you that. but as far as the moral standing of the drone, our prayers, it would wear them down. i know of cruise that have lost her,

lost their composure, lost their mental, mental composure over relentlessly. being bombarded with infrared imagery of this type of sword, where mistakes have him, no one is being held accountable. i know i'm not the only person that went up the chain of command and said that this isn't wrong. i'm just the only person that stupid enough to talk publicly about how detached tell you when you're doing this. so it's very difficult for members of the public co onto the military to try and get a handle on this. it almost seems like a, a computer game, but the people at the other end is no game at all. is it you making life and death decisions? are you correct? there's and there's no real detachment. you're sitting there for hours watching people's he watched him live there like there was no way ahead as you do it on that . these are people there. there's no way that anyone who has ever done this job and sit there watching these t live their daily lives. i cannot look at them and say, these are not people there. people because you go home when you go out into your own community and you see the same,

keep the same types of people doing the same thing. they're going to coffee shops there, go into bookstores, they're hanging out with their friends and family. they're going to the market, they're getting food, they're driving their vehicles. the only difference is the though way that we look at culture is a flavor, right? where what they, where, how they, they speak to one another. there's no difference. and i think that that's the, there is no disconnect for a drone operator. there's so much connection. like if, if a drone operator were to go over there and to meet the people that they interacted with. visually, they would probably have a emotional breakdown and cry because they would see these people are suffering and no different than themselves. and that we're perpetuating that suffering because of our actions. we're doing it. we have to take responsibility, doesn't matter what our enemy does, doesn't matter if we were waiting for an attack to happen at the airport because we're pulling out, doesn't matter. we were on the fence of mode. we shouldn't have struck these people

because we were scared or because we were waiting for something to happen front and that i literally, as you know, says that this tougher technology is a surgical for one of a better word is it can possibly be it's less of the scatter gun, it's more targeted. they say mistakes of course will happen, but how justified is the use of drone strikes in civilian areas? do you think? i think i know what you're going to say, but what do you think about it? i don't think drones strikes are justified at all in any area unless there's 11 stipulation. ok. so i am a big follower of sensors, the art of war. and if he says that a prolonged war, never benefits any nation. and if you were, hadn't made the decision to go to war, your goal is to win that war. and if you had, we're doing everything that you can to win it and stop it, then they are justified. but if you're going to drag it out, if you're going to just survey people and terrorize them in their own homeland and

not, you're not going to do anything productive over there. then it, it's a war crime. i depend ticket as you know, says that it does everything in its power to work hard to prevent civilian ha, you buy those words. you know, i don't, they don't, they really don't care. it's all money for them. they're just making money. they don't care about the lives of the civilians over there. they don't even care about the lives of their own military members. that's just politics. the pentagon has promised to have a thorough review now to buy that. no, only if they would allow a 3rd party to do it. research remain. well for now. thank you for ever so much for coming on the program. brandon bryan. for me, us ministry drone operator. we do appreciate your time. thank you. i thank you very much. thank you for having or i meg, the special report for you, the you and envoy,

the sudan says military leaders must rebuild trust with the opposition, especially younger people. many say they feel betrayed, toby, coo and the rejecting any negotiations with the military. now to see the corresponding board garcia witnessed a 1000 strong protests in the capital card to me and talk to people who say the dreams of a better life of being destroyed. the full version of an exclusive reports available youtube channel. but for now is a smaller part of the story. ah, she's cooled mina. like countless others. she's a beggar. she doesn't play with her friends or go to school. she spends her days begging outside the hotel. mina is just one of millions and saddam forced to beg to help feed herself and her family in these desperate times.

and saddam, so a sick wounded and disease by years of strife and disappointment least wasn't what democracy promised. the fall of the dictator. omar al, by sheer in 2019, was supposed to harold, a new age for, for god, a transition to a democracy. but the democrats at age of prosperity that millions hopeful, has turned into an age of hunger. i'm not mad. i don't know if there's still hope to be honest. my only concern now is finding something ticket and so much sleep. hello as everything that's happening, i just don't know. i don't care anymore. i just try saying something against the government. they'll label you an islamist or former rating sympathizer, or a military supporter. in reality, all we want is to tell the government the we're hungry that we have huge problems.

people can't even go to school because of roadblocks or protests. after the revolution, the people put their faith in a man called abdullah ham doc, a korea bureaucrats who promised as prime minister to lead the country to democracy . he won the hearts of millions, only to break the anecdote, but the military intervene and what some have called a to it arrest that prime minister ham dock. in his cabinet. the argument was that they were running the country into the ground and the transition to democracy needed a correction. handled cabinet of ministers included many with foreign citizenship. allegations of corruption were rife, ministers were accused of enriching themselves while spouting platitudes about democracy. the prime minister has since struck a deal with the military. they now ruled jointly to the displeasure of the revolutionary n. i said, none of those here will go to these protest. we protested then and we were betrayed

. why would we protest again for his, for what, what will change? nothing. we will i t once and life only got where we will sit and wait for our deaths here. yet every week, hundreds, sometimes thousands gather across. so don and chancellor dimansky and freedom who ultimatums, what traditional thursday protest. i now underway ties a burning and said drop at all. this is how these protest happen. people gather and group several 1000 several 100. in this case i've written 50 people here. burning ties are the major intersection. their objective is to pause this rupture. they're charging now against the military government who they see as being responsible for the scoop, ah, the crowd. these schindler thousands. and we had seen many small columns warming in various neighborhoods before converging. here and what they all want for power to

be handed over by the military toys, civilian government, properly. they stop without any acceptance. they want the military, the step down. many people here field, but trade by prime minister ham. gov, who find that agreement with the military, giving up a lot of civilian bow to the military. the resistance committees of all g, a groups across many neighborhoods which nominally help organized protests and run civilian life. in practice they increasingly hassle businesses or denied people. water will cooking gas if they so want, asking them about it only got us the on, so they have in their booklets. so we've, we've spoken to people on some support, the, the resistance committees, other people say that resistance committees intimidate bullying, scare people. but you would, you have to say about that labor,

how can they scale what's horizon? people are just ordinary civilians. they're not related to the military, poor intelligence agencies. all they do is how quick tokenize ation and dialogue no matter who we are. people weren't about to speak about the resistance committees on camera. they were fearful like this hard enough at ease, tragically ironic democracy activists have morphed into what they so hated ham dogs, army. some pulled themselves twisted version of the secret police, but once enforced, a dictators rule ah, here on the outskirts of cut to leave some of the most impoverished and the city people who survive on one meal every 23 days who drink water that is barely fit for capital, while on the front lines of the revolution and who the revolution i'm tiredly passed by. and so said don,

remains in wretched. stacy's chain didn't hunger frozen by corrupt and self serve in elite and held together by a military bed on preventing collapse. ah, woodcarver, senior correspondent, with that special report running of this to use addition that started world news at one i am with me, kevin. oh and thank you for your company is ever on next program. so you are on a here after this quick break to join me every thursday on the alex simon, sure. i'll be speaking to guess with the world politics sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. ah

ah ah the master is an senior watching going underground 5 years to the day since the un security council adopted resolution to $3.00 to $3.00, reaffirming a strong commitment to the sovereignty independence, territorial integrity and national unity of africa's riches began to country libya coming up with a show 10 years after nature destruction and declarations of victory in libya after the murder of leader, mormon gadhafi, could his son safe be elected president?

this christmas we talk to ma, get out his information minister about securing judicial support in the oil rich country for his candidacy and his millions face humanitarian catastrophe, and displacement in the form of french west african colony of bikini faso. days of 2 countries. prime minister was fired. we investigate the country's assassinated leader, often called africa's che guevara, thomas son kara, all this more coming up in today's going underground, but trust this month on christmas eve elections will take place in libya, formerly africa's richest per capita, nation before destruction. by nato nations like britain and france in 2011. but now one candidate is promising to put power back in the hands of the libyan people. after a decade of imperialist foreign intervention, that candidate is safe all his land, gadhafi and the b. as for information minister was abraham joins me now from germany. i missed a thanks so much for coming back on. it's a big news from libya not mentioned here in the british media. obviously, britain that took part in the aerial bombardment of your country. your reaction to

the overturning of a decision that was to disqualify safe. i'll get off a well, this actually confirm what i have been saying through this buddy program for years that the will of the libyan people will be victorious. and then what is happening now is that the libyan tri cities and towns are coming together slowly, but in a very fast way to liberate their country from foreign intervention, especially that of western europe. and islam is increasingly seen by mos libyans as they way out of this. a crisis is lam represents the good history of libya and he is a young man and he's project for the country is that of truth and reconciliation.