ah ah, oh, under our munson the u. k. or where new restrictions being brought in to come about the file spreading, all may cross cobit variant, some m p 's have even compared the proposals to nazi germany. facebook admits in court that it's 3rd party fact checks are nothing more than opinions fueling further allegations of bias and censorship on social media of the pentagon said won't told anyone liable for a bought drones strike enough down a sound lead kill 10 civilians including 7 children one former u. s. military drone pilot told us of his frustration over the decision to see that

nothing has changed, even when it's blatantly out in front of everyone's face. how we operate and no one is being held accountable. like we've been talking about this for 10 years now. ah . 247 used from moscow. this is our t. my name's unit o'neill. hello and welcome to the program. the u. k. has started to record all me chron cases, and there are thousands, the very it now accounts for 20 percent of all infections in the country and nearly half in london. one death in total has been conferred linked to the pseudonym mutant straight bars. johnson has not brought in his plan b new restrictions on an accelerated roll out of booster jobs, but many members of his own party are not convinced that's the way forward. we're not a papers please society, this is not nazi germany. well,

the prime minister's lake is instruction to the nation is get to boosted and now the aim really is to get everything go at all in that country vaccinated with that boosted job. by the end of this month, the is quite ambitious than really because that would mean i'm 1000000000 people need to be jobs every single day, and i'm outside saint thomas hospital here in central london. and as you can see, the queue is really piling up. now this morning in fact the in it chances are telling people to stop trying to book their booster online. the system has totally crashed. and why may you ask about the acceleration of this booth to program now? well, according to the how secretary the on the chrome variant is now the dominant one. no very old code 19 has spread this fast. oh me pond. expect it to become the dominant code 19 found in the capital in the next 48 hours. so the 2nd of this week is to get a boosted now, and it's all part of a drive of the plan b. cobit restrictions,

which parliament will actually be voting on later this evening. now that includes face mouse being made. mandatory again, cove at passports, cove, it isolated rules, but also the most controversial one is trying to get the n h just to get vaccinated, making that compulsory now many people in the public se that's an attack on civil liberties. that's something that some m p 's agree with. and so we're expecting a huge tory rebellion. many people saying compelling the public to get immunized as simply a step too far. not to mention the temporary emergency measures that don't seem to be so temporary anymore. we were told these measures might be left before santa took to his sleigh, and certainly before half the country was pinged into the gulag, there seems no lead up to this kind of self defeating dystopian logic. well, just yesterday, then the government put the owners back on the public saying we must all be playing our part. but that's quite a difficult message for the public to take, especially after the last few weeks of revelations that some politicians don't seem

to be playing their part in trying to get on the other side of this pandemic. and yes, i'm talking about those downing street christmas parties of being the headline news here in the united kingdom. but many people, as you can see, the key directly behind me, they are following the rules. they want to get that booster now. perhaps as alarms, ditch effort to save their christmas is shandey. edward dusty. meanwhile, there was a brief moment of panic earlier on tuesday. after in person pc, our tests were temporarily unavailable at sites across england. the government's website has not been updated showing you time slots on the spike, u. k. efforts to ramp up testing to counter than you all me kron variant. there are still plenty of questions over just hard potent stroke, deadly or otherwise. it actually is. we spoke with simon clark and microbiologist that reading university in the u. k. who is inevitable when you, when you turn up the volume on these measures,

are these things take time and the to you have to change what's available and what's delivering that to that program. and i think that's what we need. i think that so what we see is, is governments being nervous about leaving the stable boy from the holster classroom, anyone who's as wild, wide and spitting of them, undoubtedly who feel misled at best and maybe down night to it was they be not sharing that take on these latest developments, court filing facebook admits it's fact checkers. don't check facts. is facebook admitted here that it's fact checks are not really fact checks at all, but merely opinion assertions also by facebook clement it's labels constitute opinions then doesn't that make it a publisher. facebook, your opinion piece is not exempt from being fact checked, even when they are clearly labeled as o peds or editorials. also, facebook or fax labels can not be false or to pharma tree because they concent

sheet protected opinion, even though we present them. as fact. we know facebook got a whole section on its website dedicated to fact check isn't it really does salad while you know, a 2 organizations watching and 60 languages fighting lies together. it's a rigorous process and that process involves identifying the problematic post and then reviewing it. and apparently, and wanted to decide whether this post is actually what it goes straight to the source it into these people consult data. and then on the basis of these findings that determines whether that content needs to be filtered or allowed to circulate. so it really does sound like a thorough only scientific process, no way in all of that. and bleeping actual lives of tool through that was a lot of it is absolutely no use of was like opinion, subjective, you know, personal perception, judgment does nothing like that a speech more widening. you know, if you do listen to on the top bra set facebook, you believe that they never really fill to any content because that's such great champions of free speech. if your democracy can't tolerate the speech of people,

i'm not sure what kind of democracy it is. i do believe in giving people more access to information and more anxious to connect with one another and not reserving those as tools for some small number of lead people. i don't feel comfortable at all saying they don't get to have a voice because i don't agree with what they said. our ability to know what is misinformation is itself in question and i think reasonably. so i think many people would agree without a party sentiment from head, but the question hara is, is facebook trying to get us out out of a tight spot with this rule suit by suddenly amending the job description of fact jekka in order to escape any liability or has it actually just been lying on its website for this time? by the way, it's not good enough for the company. and it sat in does absolutely nothing to count. all those accusations with all these years that they have been silencing voice says arbitrary blocking conton, quite frankly, straight into the dangerous territory of censorship. while to discuss this issue further, i'm delighted to welcome on to the program, dave perkins, radio host on political unless good to see a dave i can and you know, i'm

a simple man and they may be a rapidly developing world. but our fact checkers not by definition meant to check facts. well, yeah, and the use of the word fac, to for preferred information, whether true, what damage is out today to persons, reputation and something that, that happens. well, stossel is a very well known independent journalist for going on 40 years in america, and he never once been accused of the least bit of wrong doing or even a gender pursuit. stossel is the guy more in pursuit of faction. the truth than just about anyone on the, on the landscape of american media. and so he is really harmed by this false perception that he has produced an agenda piece instead of a fact untruth and journalism piece. in fact, he had 24000000 views of a video that facebook acted against because of this, and it went to statistically 0. that's a huge financial and reputational harm to stossel. he found in the end he had to sue because facebook kept refusing is entreaties to correct the problem,

even though he had clear evidence in form of video interview, especially when somebody doesn't know the back story to that. it. why nick, this admission now, you think facebook doing it? is it a legal ruse to, to win the court? i will be alive. facebook has found themselves back against the wall and if they try to cling to the idea that they are fact checking in court, they're going to lose. and not only is it going to cost them big time, but it's going to open the door to a flood of similar lawsuit in the near future. and it could be more than they can handle. i think they're hoping that by admitting that fact, jack just means opinion jack, when facebook puts a label on there, hoping to get out of this lawsuit without harm. and then just sink the story into the daily fountain of news events and hope people forget about it. in due time and in the, in the future, you'll see changes in their labels. they'll stop using the word fact and they'll come up with some other way to express it where they still exercise their

dictatorship right to control speech on their platform. but it won't be a false presentation like the word fact jack is false. yeah. as you're leading to facebook. so, so facing multiple antitrust law suits with all their various legal battles going on. and just just maybe touching what you answered there. could we see them taking a, you know, i type a softer approach for one of the better work. well, they could, but people on the political left on the hard left as zuckerberg and facebook are, they tend to never, ever move back toward the middle even under duress. i think we will find that they have the option to come back toward the center and say, hands off, let the people dark, let them figure out what's real and what's not. because objective truth always winds over fantasy. and again, i think this is the beginning of that crumbling away of the edifice of fantasy that facebook has been building all these years. but on the other hand, i don't think they'll do it. i don't think facebook considers moving toward the

middle as an option. no more than their fellow climate agenda group called science feedback considers. moving back toward the middle, there's only one direction to go when you're on the left and that's farther left. and be interesting to see what that you name. for fact, checkers will be, wait, we might check back in with you day when that happens. thanks very much for your time today. dave markins, radio host, political analyst none of the units at military personnel involved in a botched drone strike in afghanistan, which kill 10 civilians. back in august we'll face any kind of punishment. the pentagon made down to 9 spend on monday. do not anticipate there being issues of personal accountability to be had with respect to the august 29th here. strict a . busy busy

the u. s. military has described the drone strike in cabo, as a tragic mistake caused by a communication breakdown. we spoke with former u. s. military drone operator brandon bryant. he said he's not surprised by the lack of accountability. you know, it's been 10 years since i blew the whistle on the u. s. drone program will be 10 years and 5 days actually come and to see that nothing has changed, even when it's blatantly out in front of everyone's face, how we operate them and no one's being held accountable. like we've been talking about this for 10 years now. when i 1st started talking about it, people called me a liar. people tried to defame me, and now that we see it for what it actually is, innocence had been killed. majesty, innocent, an innocent aid worker who was there trying to help because of

a decision that they wanted to kill, that they were scared they were trying to hurt someone. now, tactics haven't changed. i really think that the united states has lost her knowledge on how to conduct warfare. and it's now a business. they're not gonna punish the people that make them money. they're just going to punish the people that are so the supposed enemies in the, the ones that they test this, munitions on who should be punished are the officers. they are the ones that should be held accountable if they said that there's a breakdown in communication, but that is mostly a lie. m, m must have been that there was there and there must been someone miscommunicating something or but they have everything should be in a chat program. like it's not just a radio call instantaneous. you spin up your mess when you shoot. it takes like 5 minutes to get ready to shoot a missile. so while the crew was preparing all the decision making should have

already been made. and there should not have been a breakdown communication there. this was not an emergency situation. none was unders fire. no one was under duress, no one was under stress. and so they had all the time in the world to make a decision on whether to shoot or not. or north t, we've been speaking with people who have lost their loved ones during that bombing raid on the eve of the u. s. federal from afghanistan. they're still hoping purchase. you can watch those interviews in on heard voices not available at r t dot com a former immigration minister in denmark has been sentenced to 2 months in prison for a legally separating refugee couples back in 2016. inger stolberg. so the move was to protect child bright and that she has no regrets. yes, i see it. yeah,

i can only see that i am very, very surprised by deferred it and it is as it were, the only scenario i had not prepared for because i thought it was completely unrealistic. but here we are, and i take my punishment and i do it without bending my neck. oh boy agnes, i don't know there is nothing i have a bad day. so i mean, simply one has a moral and compassionate obligation to protect the girls, and that was what i did was story berg served as denmark's immigration minister from 2015 to 19, at the height of the migraine crisis, she gave orders for couples to be separated when the female partner was under age, many of them were young with 15 knots well below denmark's legal marriage, age of 18. a danish court rule that the decision was unlawful and so was made without exceptions or consideration for individual circumstances. and that story

berg breached her responsibilities as a minister and delighted to welcome onto the program. now to discuss this issue, but she curry, she coordinator of the denmark, european network against racism on political commentator anthony webber. you're both very welcome, but she can, we start with you whether or not we agree with what the former minister did. would you agree that prison tightened for a political decision while in government is incredibly harsh? when 1st of all, thank you for for the invitation and voice and ordering program. no, i don't think so. and to me nobody is above the law is as simple as that. and she had been only sentence for 2 months, not for 2 years. and we also know that she will not go to the present,

she maybe get a strap on her leg, you know, and that is, that would be that, but it's not a suspended sentence. it's an actual prison sentence special, but they can, they can carry that in many different ways. you know. so before there was a case like that rid of minister was sentenced also in ninety's and he didn't go to prison. he stayed at home. but let me say that as a humor i can be a nor i, julie, i am very, very thankful to judicial system and the whole that they have done a fantastic job in convicting and from dancing a high tech political figure. who was a minister who brought that up and it is a good signal set to send to everybody that nobody is above them up. anthony, the judges rule that story burg, quote, intentionally neglected her ministerial duties by separating refugee couples. was

there any justification for doing that? well, i think if you go by what she said, she said she is defending diverse families, protecting child bards. and i think mom's got to look at why to contact the logical effects. it is nice that the number refugees from some countries shouldn't take to do have these ratings just very young girls in particular. so you can get better consideration treatment when they get to be our country, whether be considered for to be taken into such a city. so those countries, i think if you look at the facts, the ages of the are concerned are between $15.00 and $7.00 train. how you say not. i'll see you on fridays, but i think one's got to have respect for the danish law. i think if one is the

refugee, though, generally consider which functions of wrestling psychiatry it sure surely should be seen by not going to be quite so well done. marcus, i read be about the countries. ok. and i have to say that this policy has been successful because the minister concern was responsible for laws in the danish column and which ensures birch refugees did not get favorable treatments. i had to make a contribution to say in done. all right, let me just bring in one of the points you brought up on sydney with bashi. it is under age girls, this is the crux of the matter, isn't it? that we're being separated? stolberg says that it was all about preventing child marriages, which is a huge issue whether they agree or whether they're coerced into it. it needs to be

stopped, doesn't it? in danish language, they use a very long term analogy, which is called child bright, and that's the other person's head. most of the girls who are in this 24 k 50 giver, 1617. so they were not child, right. like 5 years, 6 years, 7 years, and most girls were already married with these campers and to separate those people. i think that if she wanted to do something human, she should have gone to the court and some come pretend expert who had given her some good advice. but she didn't do that. she, i know her very well. she's an arrogant populist person. she does, but we can't, we can't stand by slang, like out of course, by shows you'd understand. but let me put the point to you that you said that they

were mainly 16 and 17 on already married coming to the country. but incompatible with danish law and customs in the look when killed only half to it. just interested in that, i want to put the point where people are the honest a danish, i know that the denovo that in his god became as asylum seeker. how would they know the laws of the land they were renting from their lives? those who are in the country do are seeking asylum somewhere and dead came to order to denmark. and if she were so worried about them, then she did that. the minister would have been some tink more humane. talk to them and explain to them. and as i said to you and that in many cultures, 1670 years old age is that girls got married. so it's not a matter of illegality or not. and. and by separating them, you are putting asylum seekers under a big pressure. ok. giving them

a more so stress and of course, acting illegally because she didn't even as the parliament, she didn't ask the, the court. she acted upon herself. that is actually the judges have sentence. yeah, that's what the court the court agree away to say it on agreement. okay, i'm funny that the court ruled that she breached danish law on the european convention on human rights. but child marriage is also a human rights violation is despite whereby she is saying that came already at married. is there a car contradiction there may be can pick up him on bus, his argument that the came already married? well, i think that the point you bear out is the actual pick is all between 16, the ages of 15791617. and i, it's a small deference for the actual facts. but you have to look at the points of this policy, as i said in conjunction with many other regulations of the result is that the

number of applicants for refugees to companies have done not gone down by 67 percent. and last year or the $16.00. and so again this is denise government says i have no african refugees say to say in denmark. so i think one has to say, look at the wider picture that jen long keys. are she sending people back to prices like sure where they are safe to be? so return, and we've got to look at the boy and that includes, this is marcus. she folds, that part of the functions are getting syria. so the main reason people come from syria to, to places like the denmark and the u. k. is the all for a, from a make sanctions which literally agreement for my so you never passing me

today would be to on the come home extensions are going ok. maybe we'll bearable it, but she just to pick up. and one of those points the couple is we're only briefly separated, their lives were no longer in danger. once the arrived in denmark is too much being set up. but this entire case, well, it is not a matter of one day a one year is suggest the matter of subjecting those poor people who are seeking asylum and, and the government and the minister is subjecting them to come unbearable pressure . and that is, i think, personally for me is absolutely terrible. you know, in denmark, under age, marriage is allowed, but you have to get the permission of the queen. so after all, there are, those companies were unaware of the laws of denmark. so if they wanted to have,

then they could have got the permission of the queen for the could have married again and, and leave here as, as normal couples. and i will tell you there are 34 cases and only 4 girls are 15 years old. us for all 16 and 17 and in that age is very normal in many countries. somebody at 1670. okay. we're just running on time. the last 20 seconds to you today. anthony. ok. yes will. i think the lessons learned and they set up a see there is a lack of proportionality on behalf of the davis minister. also, i think on behalf of the tool, because we are talking about 23 people. so i don't think it does are 2 months sentence. i think they didn't take into account they, they sent us, there is a good play trying to protect the danish. why, why she might go slightly wrong about respect ok box. how got members

also having you come up with some since syria, which is contributing to so many of them coming to denmark, gentlemen, it's been a spurious discussion. thank you very much for your time today. pasha korea, she coordinator of the, to mark your network against racism. and political commentator anthony webber. many thanks. thank you very much. and that indeed takes us to the break. i'll be back at the top. but next some more gray programs get their starting moments. they close join me every thursday on the alex salmon. sure. when i was reading the guess from the world of politics, sport, business, i'm sure business. i'll see you then. oh, when i was sure seemed wrong when i just don't hold.

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