back with you alex, i do apologize. not being with you in person. while we're, we've got you on the screen, peter, that is a very good 2nd best. so listen, you've been looking at the tory party for many, many years or have you ever seen turmoil like this at the top of the tory party of us, just another cycle of tallie, at the terminal and only seen warfare? no, this is different because it's a crisis. i think it's quite important to remove this issue from johnson himself. disgraceful and, and heartless and wretched that he is, is important to realize this is a crisis own, the conservative party, which has collapsed as a responsible civic organization and has been can't become the products of o donors and interest groups. and what is really at stake here

is not wretched johnson who's finished by the way, he will go out and don't have any doubts about that. but what happens next, but can confident to you that the little thing is happening now is to be able to talk about selling all those and peer, jeez, i mean, stanley baldwin was up to his neck when monday gregory was convicted all these years ago. the only person to be convicted of preventing the honors and pillage is hm. and that was way back in the 19 twenties and thirties. so what's new about the accusation of selling villages? hello, talking specifically about showing peerage is alone is an issue hanging over the party. but now there are 3 matters which are up in the air and over which johnson has no control which again he confronts this week. one is the cabinet secretary silent case and he is looking into the parties and the parties are

really difficult because it appears that the prime minister in, i think he's denied they took place by the way that he bro, code the rules. now if mr. case is over promoted, but he has his future reputation to consider concludes that mr. johnson and his the, the kind of rather unsavory associates who surround him, broke the rules. then i feel the consequences of that will be serious. then we have another matter which is even more serious than that, and that is the lord guide judgment about whether or not he was lied to all misled to use a return by mister johnson over the matter of the funding of the wallpaper and internal decorations. in johnson's mister johnson's flat. now,

i don't know how close you are fully, but it's potentially deadly serious. so when a submerged that a tory donor has held out, johnson is putting his hands in his pocket to sort out. johnson johnson sent to the guides when a commission, when he carried out his investigation that the 1st night about it was in february this year following media. when the electoral commission did a report, it found an evidence that mister johnson had what fax to this day to ask for cash. now is, does this mainly he was lying or what does it or is there some innocent explanation? this b radio silence from the old guy. now little guys, a serious figure. he's a former army officer, fuller. diplomat. hoover private secretary. the queen alliance meant of course,

a battle of western isles. connections not to be trifled with, a trifle with clans. you never have now the parliamentary commission of a standard must examine the failure by the prime minister, mister johnson, to declare, in a proper way donation to receive any m p must. now, if she finds him guilty of failing to do so, it's a serious offense. and what is the remedy she has expelling suspending or ordering out for a certain set of time the p from parliament. now, mr. johnson, the prime minister is banned from parliament. he won't be able to perform these juices as answering questions, coming to class, making statements, et cetera. so these 3 very way, see masses. i know we're the prime minister moment when i conference in is to

lapse in a tory and peace and followed me and he's ministerial colleagues. now i conclude i have reached that conclusion for some time that he is finished. he is afraid he is now a posthumous prime minister. is the living dead and at some point, probably not before christmas, but certainly in the new year. he will be obliged to resign. that is the stat that is the, the matter as it now is that you've been the prime ministers in journalistic terms . it's been a while you've been his nemesis. you've been just a book detailing all his evasions of the actuality. let's call them that. i call the lies in limbo, having taken legal advice, repeat it, lies made to the british people about about to run a virus and always everything else you got to mention that missed that they are in

my book, assault in truth. yes. nobody's challenge a single dot com or of that book. and now i'm running a website that itemizing the current law lives which are pouring out because it's not the 1st prime minister, alyssa, they have been demonstrated to be than their economical with the truth. i'm in and bought us johnston's defense has lies seem over relatively, as you call them or what relatively trivial matters, sir. with us mister blair, it could be accused of for misleading people about the reasons for going to a war. so, and the balance of things isn't ballast? johnson somewhat less guilty than his labour predecessor. you are speaking probably the leading experts, not just in britain, but the world's on british political line. i wrote a book about mister black called the rise of political lying. i way an terrible untruth switch, mister glad told about the existence weapons of mass destruction,

which, which paved the way in public gather terms for any energy and legal sams. i think for an illegal war, so that, and that was deadly serious. the iraq war is still is the consequences for millions of people and death destruction. and of course, the dispossession is still being felt the black ally of a weapons of mass destruction. i shall say that mister black and sissy, he made a statement in good faith and therefore they have a very false not lies. it's an important distinction to make the, those lives that were, we were actually relating to the iraq war. whereas i'm afraid, johnson, you know your name it corona virus, breck sick. personal circumstances is every day. tell me about the tory party. i mean is that the case?

if you are cynical, the tory party, tony and wallace johnson because he see there's an election a winner. but it's actually the moment he ceases to be seen as an election when it becomes a liability that the famous a man in greece suits lineup to tell the prime minister, the games are bogey unlike the labor party, the tory party is a completely ruthless electro machine the moment you look like being a football manager, actually the moment you cease to deliver results. i you guys, now this is the so mr. johnson was seen and wallace popular very he left for some reason with the british people for a long time. you won them that election. i put him in for that. now, over the last few weeks, he started to crash in the polls as a result, and i were a name, a paper clara political editor of the daily mirror was here justification of vindication

of political journalism. i'm proud to be a fellow citizen of per clara who broke revelations about those parties. and ever since that the johnson po, writing has collapsed and is now in negative territory. and the tory rating is collapse if that carries on for much longer is over. and so if it is over though games up from the prime minister, who would the likely successes be under any dark courses as well as the the obvious favorites? yes, i think i was where you got a divine within the cabinet and outside the cabinet. and conventional westminster opinion will tell you that liz trash has got a better version to say quite a bit of mrs. thatcher. she's the foreign secretary now, and she's well place to run, but we will do likewise. a bit less flashy,

but he's quite credible as chance of the exchequer. and that only our side, i give you 2 names are going to do. johnny hart, the former for a secretary from a house actually is it is, is really quite a formidable figure. he ran 2nd of the games, johnson price. we're in the leadership election 2 years ago. and he represents a sort of standing review to the should be call it corruption. the men tacit, see the sleaze cronyism, which is mar. johnson's disgraceful term as prime minister. not a problem for tonight and least truss. and anybody in the cabinet, they go along with this. they haven't protested or, and they are smeared by association with one of the most of the work, somebody who is becoming one of those noxious politicians of molten ties outside is hunt another person. i'll give a little mention to david davis,

who he ran 2nd to to david cameron 10 years ago. and he has a figure of considerable integrity and a standing review to the school moral swallow of the ghastly crew, which now so handsome corey's johnson. though very finally be total, but as the parliamentary, conservative party, i'm the acolyte. celebrate the new year. i'm going to be really depressed about the coming circumstances. are they going to say, well, look, k, you know, we've got majority of 80 and parliament most more than 2 years in the next election . so listen, good time to sort things i. so i'm going to see the, the glass of mo, whiskey half fool, half empty the out of the mental feeling and our chest among tory m. p. 's is that johnson is finished. and the tory party cannot with

united not behind in the poll ratings that will get worse with, as i explained, a series of fresh candles coming swiftly round the corner with the speed of an express express train. so they will get rid of johnson in the new year if they don't strike for peter oberon, student of the conservative party juggler stick strong to their. thank you so much for joining me in the alex salmon show. great pleasure. joining us after the break. well, alex asked by the next clear fox to gaze into a political crystal ball and tell us what 2022 will bring. we'll see then. ah, scientific knowledge has never been so readily available to everyone across the

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ah ah, working in the back, she popped in. she said, well, i'm getting ready to go shopping for christmas. and we, we said there was a good buy another shooting another safe part of american life. shattered by violence. the gunman was armed with an a ar 15, semi automatic rifle. when the issue comes home, it's time to act when we're silent on this issue. the other side wins by default,

lady that lived over there. i was walking one of the dogs. she said, why do you wear again? were you scared? doesn't such a good offer that i think people need to take responsibility in their own hands and be prepared if those kind of weapons were less available. we wouldn't have a lot of shootings and we certainly wouldn't have the number down. i welcome back. well, it's been a toward a few weeks for the prime minister, but 2022 sir discovery and his fortunes only a pocketful 20 men, a gray suit commer calling on deigning st. alex's in conversation with the liveliest of the new members of the house of lords ennobled by johnson. not because of our donations for the conservative party, but because of our campaigning for brakes. it the she think the man who got breaks

it done can hang on to power. alex speaks to botanist. clear for the last clear, false. welcome back to the alex simon, shall good to be. what would you say is the extent of the prime ministers, political trouble? how much trouble is bought? johnson know him. he's got a lot of trouble, but maybe not the way people think. i suspect that in the last few days, there's been some kick back. people are worried that trees are my and it is are out for revenge. this concern because quite a lot of people, he was a hard core remain. crowd have been enjoying his troubles a bit much. and so that makes people who voted for him a little nervous because they might once a whole bar, as johnson would count, but for the right thing. and they don't want him to kind of end up with somebody they don't consider, it will be in the spirit why they rated johnson in the 1st place. having a federal law, he's lost

a huge amount of support. i would suggest from the voters that he won't even from the red wall vices because they now really didn't feel as though any kind of liberal or liberty embracing. instincts have been betrayed. i'm. i think cop 26th of damage because a lot of people felt this was a kind of january of international you know, had to stay. and also when talking about issues that will be done to them. and they didn't really feel as though net 0 is something that had been politically democratically decided on. and now the recent cave it regulations coming in. when people just don't feel as though they justified, i'm the party to she. so one might know that there's a real sense of we might stick with them, but it's a real free grated teeth, and that's very damaging the launch of the primary troubles of self inflicted. this is to be almost at the carelessness about things and comp $26.00. it doesn't

seem to seize the moment for global publicity like the president united states or indeed the 1st minister. scott. well, i think you'll, that word that you've used is very important, which is carelessness, i think that his career ma cannot compensate for the fact that he actually is quite college and politically. that has a big impact. some people because if you're constantly trying to implement policies to cover up for the last math that you made, then people start to lose confidence in your ability to hold the line or, or have any sincerity. i mean, people, i know at the moment, for example, all doing all going along with the restrictions, you know, wearing masks at doing everything that's hold. what last year they were frightened . they did not frighten that, complying. it's very different atmosphere and a lot based on in bad faith because i doing it cuz i'll get in trouble if they don't do it. that's not quite to say. and if you think that they then think that for us, johnson just seems cavalier about these announcements. you know,

he can casually just say on the television that the whole of the address is going to be re purpose the d based the jobs and not what dr. owners have been told that, right, i mean this is like, you can say i support the jazz, but if you treat people like that, you can bring in legislation. things like the police and crime bill that they say that doing for one reason. but when you actually look at the small print, really well criminalize, all sorts of activities that most or new people wouldn't support. and he doesn't seem to know that detail. you know that just something one of his ministers is doing what he needs to know the detail. he's in charge. so i think he's brought a lot of it on himself. but i just don't want to underestimate his popular payable if you want. what i think it's happened is he still got popular, pale, but he used to have a populist instinct just spontaneously just something he was good. i had a populist instinct and now he has lost that populace instinct. he doesn't actually have that same sense of what ordinary people think it does kind of

a luck. i mean the, if you take last week where they seem to be rolling in a seal for sleeves allegations. and then along comes a new data to this variant which allows them to make a prime ministerial broadcast, the proclaim booster booster booster and white the christmas parties of god. so at least for now off the headlight for now. but you see that the thing is why people are cynical is because they don't think it's very dangerous when they think variances come along. that is being conveniently and opportunistically used to wipe away the the problems. now, i'm not saying it isn't dangerous, don't get me wrong. what i'm saying is, as a cynicism, a kind of own as a nationalistic cynicism, the people aren't quite convinced by this one. because actually if you look at the evidence, it doesn't look as though it's that dangerous and he's behaving is that way back to stage one. or wait on down the road, you know, and it's obviously not like that. and so, but yeah, i mean, he's, he has said,

look, the, you can't, you can't rule by look, you know, that only last for so long leave. when forget this interesting conversation about the, the faith of the prime minister we haven't yet mentioned the labor part is suggesting the all of us jobs and potential difficulties coming from either within the total plot the where from the press. but when the labor party stand that all of us, i thought one of the key indicators the labor party, really all irrelevant, was when test alma did a state of the nation broadcast evening after forest johnson did state the nation and the nation didn't really notice i think the last time i was on the show, i said in the low volume i did, i think the light boy had it is just say things don't just die overnight, right. but he doesn't mean that i think they've got the potential for a sustainable future is the part of labor. i just don't think they have only work in people no longer naturally looked the labor and labor to nothing in which they might convince them that they should look to them. so what are your,

what do you got to tell you? but as far as the man and grace suits going to tell me a calling on dentistry aud isn't going to be a prime minister revival in the new year. i think that the men and grace needs are already circling, and they certainly are asking for the grown ups to enter into number 10. and there is no doubt about it. the forest has always had a slightly seizure with, again, careless and covered rescue organizational masses. but when he was in city hall, he did have a, a reasonably strong team around him. and it does seem to me that one of the problems is that lack of theme. so they will try and change personnel and hope that works. but i think that more and more people realize that he has limited value. it's just not there. isn't anyone obvious you just dominate rob michael guy? well, i'm only at the most shallow level. i mean,

nobody really believes that she lives just. he's playing a blinder, right? but if you kind of examine it for more than 2 minutes, i don't know whether you got the national reach that bar johnson has. that will be people who got their i on the big job. i just don't think his days on nobody in quite that way and does the prime minister new estimation still have the the will to be prime minister. i mean, many prime ministers come to the end of the title. they just get fed up with it. i think that he wants all the glory and not the hard work. so i, you know, the difficulty is, is that whether he's actually got the, the genuine stamina, the stamina that is required, see really lead because it's fine. you know, making great speeches. when is a great speech, i mean, rhetorically clever people laughing, being in the limelight. but actually, as he has obviously noticed, is quite hard running. the country is quite hard being on the international state and you can make mess ups. and he does it all time and people are less forgiving in this week. whatever one things back. however, this is a series crisis. he keeps telling us that

a time for the serious grown ups. and yet he doesn't really want to be a serious grown up in this. and his statesman like standing is to say the least slightly in disarray, ruthlessly ambitious. man, what can you do with them? right? they don't give up that easily. he's not going to go quietly, either out of full, but can you rationalize home a christmas party last year? could have more political impact. the question as to whether hosa legislature is being bought for money because the christmas party is a she indicated that the people who were making the roles were not frightened of this virus. they told us that we ought to be so frightened of that. ordinary people were and, you know, destroyed their hopes and aspirations. i mean, if you remember this time last year, everyone and you were so excited, you know, seeing the family for the 1st time in the gut wrenching, i did that you were taken for a mug. the priest people down lie that the got the pub, the chat to each other,

and they've discovered that society was almost destroyed during that time. and they know that that is a big price to pay and maybe some and think it was worth it because we had a public health emergency to then discover that that wasn't being taken seriously by the people who actually close society down, i think is really got to people clear false, i want you to look into that crystal ball, which i know you have tell us what was going to be in your opinion, the political highlights of the coming year 2022. i'm hoping that the political highlight will be that the public will re emerge into society again and become agents their own destiny and be like active players in the story. because one of the problems about floods in society down is this too much focus on what happens involvement, and parliament, all kind of talking in a bubbles which other and what i'm looking forward. so is people regaining that confidence, reasserting the fact that they're the ones in control and in charge. and i think

that may be the, i'm hoping that the cynicism that is a bit in the hell istic about politicians will become a productive dynamic force. and that will say a shakeup with new political parties emerging of all sorts and stripes. and so that the ruling a late just can stopping is complacent as they have been over the last year. so far, thank you so much and you'll come back onto the show to tell us about that festival of politics. i will do it. the florida johnson went into november as a prime minister, heading to pose labs by a comfortable comments. majority was an improving situation on all the corporate plans, and it was stabilized, if not under full control. the economy was out of work cited and performing better than forecasts on britain was preparing to state a major international summit in grad school. but it weeks is a long time in politics. all has been rapidly dying, who the prime minister's ill judged pertain to see if it's friend or patterson from

the stand. this committee failed and then rebounded badly. it opened up a range of questions about dynasty activities didn't seem to suggest that the regulations were only meant for ordinary people. not for the johnson inner circle. bob, all the failure to shake off sleeves allegations and just a panel, lack of attention to the details of governance has begun to connect with his ability to command support for necessary action to team that assertion by this. now when the prime minister becomes an electro liability and is incapable of governing on the me to issue of the day, these are exactly the circumstances and the tory party instinct for survival kicks and income. and so then expected to do the decent thing. having said that, there is no evidence that bought us johnson, so it's a split score carrier has operated within the normal parameters of what is expected

of him. thus, it may be too early to write to us political obituary, regardless of the number of people, no volunteering to be the lead author. but for now from alex myself, either oh at there. sure, it's good by tick here. i'm hope to see you all again for our christmas special with a jew of many voices, talented kit robbins and louis mcquaid. next week, until then take care. ah, ah ah, scientific knowledge has never been so readily available to everyone across the globe,

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