i'm startin that all music and my said pic arts have kept me seen these last years . some might see a difference. what an interesting program once again, focusing on some of the good. thank you all, alex simon. sure. no journalist has been a baker thorn and the prime minister sites. then the formidable peter over and earlier this year he published the assault on to detailing the full extent of waters. johnson's repeated departure from actually t i, we there for a pointing journeys and for johnson, alex speaks 52 point bits robot. welcome back to the alex simon. jill is a huge pleasure to be back with you. alex. i do apologize. not being with you in person while we're, we've got you on the screen, peter, that is a very good 2nd best. so listen, you've been looking at the tory party for many, many years or have you ever seen turmoil like this at the top of the tory party of

us, just another cycle of tallie, at the terminal and the leasing warfare? no, this is different because it's a crisis. i think it's quite important to remove this issue from johnston, himself. disgraceful, and, and heartless and wretched though he is, is important to realize this is a crisis on the conservative party which has collapsed as a responsible civic organization. and has been cut become the products of, of donors and interest groups. and what he's really at stake here is no, reggie johnson who's finished by the way, he will go, don't, don't have any doubts about that. but what happens next? but can't carpeted here, that little thing is happening now is to be able to talk about selling all those

and peer. jeez, i mean, stanley baldwin was up to his neck when monte gregory was convicted all these years ago. the only person to be convicted of preventing the honors and pillage is hm. and that was way back in the 19 twenties and thirties. so what's new about the accusation of selling privileges? we're not talking specifically about selling peerage is alone. is an issue hanging over the posse, but now there are 3 masses which are up in the air and over which johnson has no control which again he confronts this week. one is the secretary simon case, and he is looking into the parties and the parties are really difficult because it appears that the prime minister in, i think he's denied that took place. but anyway, that he bro, kobe rules. now, if mr. case is over promoted,

but he has his future reputation to consider concludes that mr. johnson and his the, the kind of rather unsavory associates who surround him, broke the rules. then i feel the consequences of that will be serious. then we have another matter which is even more serious than that, and that is the lord guide the judgment about whether or not he was lied to or miss led to use primary language by mr. johnson, over the matter of the funding of the wall paper, an internal decorations, in johnson's, mr. johnson's flat. now, i don't know how close your full is potentially deadly serious. so when a so merge that a tory donor had held out jobs and he's putting his hands in his pocket to sort out. johnson johnson said to lord guides when he commission,

when he carried out his investigation that the 1st night about it was in february. this year, following media reports, when the electoral commission did it found an evidence that mr. johnson had. what facts of this donor to ask for cash now is, does this mainly he was lying all? what does it or is there some innocent explanation? there's been radio, silence from the old guy now. little guys, a serious figure. he's a former army officer, fuller, diplomat of a private sector, the queen, a miles men. of course. a battle of western isles. connections not to be trifled with. absolutely, no. you, jo, trifle with clans you never have. now the parliamentary commission of the standards must examine the failure by the prime minister, mister johnson, to declare,

in a proper way, a donation to receive any m. p must. now, if she finds him guilty of failing to do so, it's a serious offense and what is the remedy she has expelling or suspending or ordering out for a certain set of time of the n p from parliament. now, mr. johnson, the prime minister, is banned from parliament. he won't be able to perform his juices as answering questions, coming to class, making statements, et cetera. so these 3 very way, see masses. i know we're the prime minister moment when i conference in to lapse in among bank, tory and peace and follow me. and he's ministerial colleagues. now i conclude i have reached a conclusion for some time that he is finished. he is afraid he is now

a posthumous prime minister. is the living dead and at some point, probably not before christmas, but certainly in the new year. he will be obliged to resign. that is the stack. that is the, the matter as it stands. you've been in the prime minister's journalistic terms, is bet, no, art, you've been his nemesis. you've been just a book detailing all his evasions of the actuality. let's call them that. i call the lies in limbo, having taken legal advice, repeat it, lies made to the british people about about to run a virus and always everything else you got to mention that missed that they are in my book, the assault in truth. he hasn't. nobody's challenge a single dot com or of that book. and now i'm running a website that itemizing the current law lives which are pouring out. it's not the 1st prime minister alyssa have been demonstrated to be in the economical with the

truth. i've been and bought us johnston's defense, has lies seem over relatively, as you call them or what relatively trivial matters, sir. with us mister blair, it could be accused of for misleading people about the reasons for going to a war. so, and the balance of things isn't ballast? johnson somewhat less guilty than his labour predecessor. you are speaking probably the leading experts, not just in britain, but the world's on british political line. i wrote a book about mister black called the rise of political lying. and i way an terrible untruth switched mister glad i told about the existence of weapons of mass destruction which, which paved the way in gather terms for any energy and legal sounds i think for an illegal war, so that and that was deadly serious. the iraq war is still the consequences for

millions of people and death destruction. and of course, the dispossession is still being felt. the blair lie, i have a weapons of mass destruction. i shall say that mister black and sissy. he made her statement in good faith and therefore they were very false not lies. it's an important distinction to make the, those live there were, we were actually relating to the iraq war, whereas i'm afraid, johnson, you know, your name it corona virus, breck sick, personal circumstances is every day. tell me about the tory party. i mean, is that the case? if you are cynical, the tory party, tony and wallace johnson because he seen as an electron winner. but as i say, the moment he ceases to be seen as an election when it becomes a liability. the, the famous a man in greece lineup to tell the prime minister the games are bulky. unlike

the labor party, the tory party is a completely ruthless electro machine. the moment you look like being a football manager, actually the moment you cease to deliver results. i you guys, now this is the so mr. johnson was seen and was popular very he left for some reason with the british people for a long time. you won them that election. i put him in for that. now, over the last few weeks, he started to crash in the polls as a result. and i were a name, a paper, clara political editor of the daily marijuana here justification of vindication of political journalism. i'm proud to be a fellow citizen of per clara who broke revelations about those parties. and ever since that the johnson po, writing has collapsed and is now in negative territory. and the tory rating is

collapse if that carries on for much longer is over. and so if it is overnight games up from the prime minister, who would the likely successes be under any dark courses as well as the the obvious favorites? yes, i think i was with you, little divine, within the cabinet and outside the cabinet. and conventional westminster opinion will tell you that list trash has got a better version to say quite a bit of mrs. thatcher. she's the foreign secretary now, and she's well place to run. i probably will do likewise, or if she's in a bit less flashy, but he's quite credible as chance of the check and that only our site i give you 2 names are going to do johnny hart. the former for a secretary from a house actually is it is, is really quite a formidable figure. he ran 2nd against johnson price. we're in the leadership

election 2 years ago. and he, and he represents a sort of standing review to the should be call it corruption, the men tacit. see the sleaze, the cronyism, witches mar johnson's disgraceful term as prime minister. not a problem for tonight, and least truss. and anybody in the cabinet, they go along with this. they haven't protested or, and they are smeared by association with one of the most of the work, somebody who is becoming one of those noxious politicians of modern times. other side is hunt another person. i'll give a little mention to david davis, who he ran 2nd to to david cameron 10 years ago. and he has got a figure of considerable integrity and a standing review to the school moral squalor of

a ghastly crew which now so hands or is johnson no very finally b to robot as the parliamentary consent of the party under acolytes celebrate the new year. i'm going to be really depressed about the coming, sucking stance is all the go say, well, you know, we've got majority of 80 empowerment most more than 2 years to the next election. so lessons of good time to sort things i. so i'm going to see the glass of mo, whiskey, half full of half empty the how the mental feeling and our chest about tory aids is that johnson fished and the tory party cannot with, you know, he's not behind in the cold. reggie. exactly get worse with as i explained, a series of fresh candles coming swiftly around the corner with the speed of an express express train. said they will get rid of johnson in the new year if they

don't strike for peter obama, student of the conservative party juggler. stick straw to thank you so much for joining me in the i'll examine, show. great pleasure are joining us after the break. well, alex asked by to net clear folks to gaze into political christabel and tell us what 2022 will bring with even hulu. scientific knowledge has never been so readily available to everyone across the globe, but overwhelmed by information. can we distinguish the real science from the one being imposed upon us? we're living in a world where there are many people who have a vested interest in finding information, finding scientific evidence,

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welcome back. well, it's been a toward a few weeks for the prime minister. 2020 to see recovery and his fortunes. all the apocryphal tory men in gray suits commer calling on dating seats. alex's in conversation with the liveliest of the new members of the house of lords ennobled by johnson, not because of our donations to the conservative party, but because of our campaigning for brakes. it. this you think the man who got breaks it done can hang on to power. i'll expect the botanist. therefore i am as clear, false. welcome back to the i'll examine, shall, good to be here. what would you say is the extent of the prime ministers, political trouble? how much trouble is bought? johnson know him. he, there are a lot of trouble, but maybe not the way people think. i suspect that in the last few days, there's been some kick back. people are worried that trees are my and it is are out for revenge. this concern because quite a lot of people, he was

a hard core remain. crowd have been enjoying his troubles a bit much. and so that makes people who voted for him a little nervous because they might once a whole bar, as johnson would count, but for the right thing. and they don't want him to kind of end up with somebody they don't consider, it will be in the spirit why they rated johnson in the 1st place. having a federal law, he's lost a huge amount of support. i would suggest from the voters that he won't even from the red wal vices because they now really didn't feel as though any kind of liberal liberty embracing. instincts have been betrayed. i'm i think cop 2016 of damage because a lot of people fall. this was a kind of january of international, you know, had to stay and also when talking about issues that will be done to them. and they didn't really feel as though net 0 is something that had been politically democratically decided on. and now the recent caving regulations coming in when

people just don't feel as though they justified, i'm the policy to she. so one might know that there's a real sense of we might stick with them, but it's a real 3 grated teeth. and that's very damaging the launch of the primacy troubles a self inflicted. this is to be a, almost at the carelessness about things and comp $26.00. it doesn't seem to seize the moment for global publicity like the president united states or indeed the 1st minister, the scott. well, i think you'll that word that you've use is very important, which is carelessness. i think that his career ma cannot compensate for the fact that he actually is quite college and politically that has a big impact. some people because if you're constantly trying to implement policies to cover up for the last message that you made, then people start to lose confidence in your ability to hold the line or,

or have any sincerity. i mean, the people i know at the moment, for example, all doing all going along with the restrictions, you know, wearing masks at doing everything that's hold. but last year they were frightened. this year they're not frightened that complying it's very different atmosphere and a lot based on in bad faith because i doing it because i'll get in trouble if they don't do it, it's not quite the same. and if you think that they then think that for us, johnson just seems cavalier about these announcements. you know, he can casually just say on the television that the whole of the night just is going to be re purpose the d based the jobs and not what dr. owners have been told that. right, i mean this is like, you can say i support the test, but if you treat people like that, you can bring in legislation. things like the place in crime bill that they say that doing for one reason. but when you actually look at the small print, really well criminalize, all sorts of activities that most or new people wouldn't support. and he doesn't seem to know that detail. you know that just something one of his ministers is

doing when he needs to know the detail he's in charge. so i think he's brought a lot of it on himself. but i just don't want to underestimate his popular payable if you want. what i think it's happened is he still got popular, pale, but he used to have a populist instinct just spontaneously just something he was good. you had a populist instinct and now he has lost that populace instincts. he doesn't actually have that same sense of what ordinary people think it does kind of a luck. i mean, if you take last week with a seem to be rolling in a sea of sleeves allegations. and then along comes a new data to this variant which allows them to make a prime ministerial broadcast, the proclaim booster booster booster and white the christmas parties of god. so at least for now off the headlight for now. but you see that the thing is why people are cynical is because i don't think it's very dangerous very, they think variances come along. that is been conveniently and opportunistically

used to wipe away the, the problems. now, i'm not saying it isn't dangerous, don't get me wrong. what i'm saying is, is a cynicism, a kind of, almost a nationalistic cynicism, the people aren't quite convinced by this one. because actually, if you look at the evidence, it doesn't look as though it's that dangerous and he's behaving is that way back to stage one or wait on down the road, you know, and it's obviously not like that. and so, but yeah, i mean he's, he has said, look, the, you can't, you can't rule by look, you know, that only last for so long leave. when forget this interesting conversation about the, the faith of the prime minister. we haven't yet mentioned the labor for this other, suggesting the all of us jobs and potential difficulties coming from either within the tory party or from the press whether the labor party stands and all of us. i thought one of the key indicators the labor party, really all irrelevant was when k salma did a state of the nation broadcast evening after forest johnson did

a state the nation and the nation didn't really notice. i think the last time i was on the show, i said in the low volume, i did, i think the light boy you've had it is just say things don't just die overnight, right. but he doesn't mean that. i think they've got the potential for a sustainable future is the part of labor. i just don't think they have only work in people no longer naturally looked the labor and labor to nothing in which they might convince them that they should look to them. so what are your, what do you got to tell you? but as far as the man and grace suits going to tell me a calling on dentistry aud isn't going to be a prime minister revival in the new year. i think that the men and grace needs are already circling, and they certainly are asking for the grown ups to enter into number 10 and there is no doubt about it. the chorus has always had a slightly seizure with again, careless, uncovered rescued organizational masses. but when he was in city hall,

he did have a, a reasonably strong team around him. and it does seem to me that one of the problems is that lack of theme. so they will try and change personnel and hope that works. but i think that more and more people realize that he has limited value. it's just not there. isn't anyone obvious you just, i don't want a rob michael guy. well, i've only at the most shallow level. i mean, nobody really believes that she lives. he's playing a blind, that's right. but if you kind of examined for more than 2 minutes, i don't know whether she got the national reach that birth johnson has. that will be people who have got their i on the big job. i just don't think his days are numbered in quite that way. and does the prime minister in your estimation still have the the will to be private? so i mean, many prime ministers come to the end of the table. they just get fed up with it. i think that he wants all the glory and not the hard work. so i, you know, the difficulty is, is that whether he's actually got the, the genuine stamina,

the stamina that is required, see really lead because it's fine. you know, making great speeches. when is a great speech, i mean, rhetorically clever people laughing, being in the limelight. but actually, as he has obviously noticed is quite hard. one in the country is quite hard being on the international state, and you can make mess ups. and he does it all time and people are less forgiving in this, you know, week whatever one things back. however, this is a series crisis. he keeps telling us that a time for the serious grown ups. and yet he doesn't really want to be a serious grown up in this. and his statesman like standing is to say the least slightly in disarray, ruthlessly ambitious. man, what can you do with them? right. and i gave up that easily. he's not going to go quietly, either out of full, but can you rationalize her a christmas party last year? can have more political impact. the question as to whether hosa legislature is being bought for money because the christmas party is

a she indicated that the people who were making the roles were not frightened of this virus. they told us that we ought to be so frightened of that. ordinary people were and, you know, destroyed their hopes and aspirations. i mean, if you remember this time last year, everyone and you were so excited, you know, seeing the family for the 1st time and the got wrenching, i did that. you were taken for a mug. the pressure people down like the got the pub, the chat to each other, and they've discovered that society was always destroyed during that time. and they know that that is a big price to pay and maybe some and think it was worth it because we had a public health emergency to then discover that that wasn't being taken seriously by the people who actually close society down, i think is really got to people clear false, i want you to look into that crystal ball, which i know you have tell us what was going to be in your opinion, the political highlights of the coming year 2022. i'm hoping that the political

highlight will be that the public will re emerge into society again and become agents their own destiny and be like active players in the story. because one of the problems about floods in society down is this too much focus on what happens in bohaman and parliament, all kind of talking in a bubbles which other and what i'm looking forward. so is people regaining that confidence, reasserting the fact that they're the ones in control and in charge. and i think that may be the, i'm hoping that the cynicism that is a britain, the hellish take about politicians will become a productive dynamic force. and that will say a shakeup with new political parties emerging of all sorts and stripes. and so that the ruling a late just can stopping is complacent as they have been over the last year. so folks, thank you so much and you'll come back onto the show to tell us about that festival of politics. i will be at the what is johnson went into november as

a prime minister headed to pose, backed by a comfortable common majority. it was an improving situation on all the corporate plans, and it was stabilized, if not under full control. the economy was out of work citing and performing better than forecasts on britain was preparing to state a major international summit in glasgow. but it weeks is a long time in politics, all has been rapidly dying. who the prime minister is ill judged, pertains to save his friend or patterson from the side of this committee, failed and then rebounded badly. it opened up a range of questions about dynasties activities during lunch time. seemed to suggest that the regulations were only meant for ordinary people and not for the johnson inner circle. above all, the failure to shake off slaves allegations entered upon lack of attention to the detail of governance has begun to connect with his ability to command support for necessary action to team that a sergeant by this no wonder prime minister becomes both an electro liability and

is incapable of governing on the major issue of the day. these are exactly the circumstances and authority party instinct for survival kits in encumbered so then expected to do the decent thing. having said that, there is no evidence that bought us johnson's through. i had to split school could year, has operated within the normal parameters of what is expected of him. thus, it may be too early to write his political obituary regardless of the number of people. no volunteering to be the lead author, but for no from alex myself either. oh, at their shoe. it's good by tick here. i'm hope to see you all again for our christmas special with a jew of many voices. talented kit robins and listen quiet next week until then take care. ah

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