oh heck, no. with the rest in 7 years. so with the report with ah hop, atlanta for this, our live on our teeth, russia, publishers a list of proposals to nato for maintaining security. the deputy foreign minister of moscow saying the ball is now and the alliance is caught when it comes to that of the escalation in the program, we dig into disturbing revelations that the manchester arena suicide bomber had linked to a former nato soldier tongue and inquiry. his submissions from the case home office and counter terrorism, police turning on the president. many al foods that are usually very friendly for

joe biden are starting to grumble that he should not run for another time. drought common to plunge afghanistan into a humanitarian disaster. the un saying the winter freeze will only make matters worse. situation on the ground in afghanistan continues to be difficult. people are definitely not having enough food, enough warm enough of supplies. ah, right o 5 pm here at moscow and wrapping up the work day for many on this friday. but we are live 247 here at ot, with a big bulletin for you today. so russia has now published a list of proposals for deescalate intentions with nato. and the secretary general of the alliance is just said the text is being considered. but any solution will

have to factor in ukraine's interests. earlier, after explaining moscow's terms, russia, deputy foreign minister said, is now up to nato to reciprocate when he did it, as amid sir. yeah, we saw yesterday's text from nato. there is nothing new there. so we'd be making proposals, but in return only get ultimatum. so we were told it's up to us. now the choice is nato's. well, that we're are, as you mentioned, 2 different proposals. one is for the united states, which is slightly more detailed, but largely the same. there's also one to nato as a whole. and the gist of it is that we all need to pull back from the brink to de escalate. to stop threatening each other. it's right there in article one that there needs to be a healthy respect for each other's need for security. and in that vein, it proposes a manner of a whole range of practical steps. in order to achieve that,

the parties shall not use the territories of other states with a view to preparing or carrying out an armed attack against the other party. it is no secret, of course, not to you, not to of you as that the things have reached, i wouldn't say in a chasm, a chasm. we're on the brink, where in the past we had talk of sanctions and you, you do accusations of ill behavior. now we're hearing things about an escalation towards what repeat of a cuban missile crisis. and so russia proposes i again, a range of steps including issues that a very sensitive to rush and that is at the station in increasing station of intermediate in short range ballistic missiles. near russia. the parties shall not deploy land based, intermediate, and short range missiles. in areas allowing them to reach the territory of the other parties. at this point, i mean, russia is referred to as an adversary in the,

in the military doctrines of the united states, um, other nato countries. and these proposal seeks to eliminate that we need to start afresh. we need to change what we call each other, stop again, threatening each other either politically, economically, militarily, in some cases which have which of whose quite the shock incidents where seen constantly in the black sea, for example, with increasing native military presence there. and what russia wants is a return to the security situation of 1997, which is just just off that i to 97. nato expire expanded towards the east. and now we're seeing more and more american troops, nato equipment being stationed near russia's borders and russia. once that the stop nato states commit themselves to refrain from any further enlargement of nato, including the accession of ukraine, as well as other states during

a press conference. all this was unveiled by the way, by the russian foreign ministry during the press conference, journalists, including many from, from western media outlets were there. and what are the things they said it is on to asking for too much? i mean, this is, this is essentially a wishlist of everything that marshall once and here russia says look, this is, this is a draft. this is our proposals. things that we're prepared to work with, work around perhaps top of my somewhere that perhaps compromise elsewhere. but the error of russia must do this. russia must do that, of russia being detained, to ease ease, over at the nebulous motor. this is not an attempt to revise the post cold will order. it is a response to western expansion which has been conducted in a hostile manner. unfortunately, there isn't much cause for optimism so far. the russian form and as she says its proposals have been rejected while being rejected. i am by nato states by the 2

countries. the european union, and here the problem is that both sides of voiced this opinion, that things much changed, that we want better relations. but every practical step taken to improve those relations to take steps to deescalate out their met with unfortunately, the russian se rejection. let's live more now crossing like to pull not all the former leader of the u. k. independence party. joining us here on archie is national for all the way from moscow. a very good evening to you. so welcome to the program. it's good to have you with us. russia is essentially reaching out to nato with an olive branch when you consider this list of proposals for a sense of de escalation. would you in any way perhaps expect for the a western professional partners to reciprocate? well, i would hope so. i'm holding hope though, because look, the criminal a behaving like grown up to you. we know that there's a problem. we know that

a classically to the older i would say over the past decade actually. and i would say that the relations are the distrust between nato and russia. it's a low point, probably where the any point since the cold war. so something has to be done. the criminal is reaching out by your grown up and saying, let's get round a table. let's discuss best of course proposals that brochure to put out no negotiation. so let's do a neutral country. let's come to an agreement and step away from the practices of what possibly can be catastrophic to the world. paul, as you well know, we keep seeing it in the media all around the world. nato keeps expressing support for ukraine, sending weapons and military advisors there. now, nato is supposed to be about collective defense to do these actions. sound defensive to you not really. i mean, it doesn't really make much sense to me. i mean, what russians would put out is, is quite sensible. i mean, the idea that there will be no weapons or military material in any of the countries

that joined natal after like $97.00 makes perfect sense because what you will create that is an eastern your which will be pretty, which of the militarize all. and also they don't want to see metro expanding eastern so bushes, fee of increment, of course, that's already happened with the baltic states joining nato in the 2000. but what we don't want to see is ukraine and georgia joining they to because that will pretty much be unsettling. russia. i mean, it's provocative. it's silly. as i say, they need to sit, have a talk because your job is always back to the mall. i'll come to an agreement to escalate this crisis for that. so let's bring a question here that i think perhaps a lot of people in the u. k may not be aware of, but the u. k is now directly involved in ukraine according to the u. k. government london is helping ukraine strengthen its military abilities through operation orbital, under which the u. k. get this pull. the u. k has trained over 21000 members of the

ukranian army. is this in britain's best interest? no, it's insane. is absolutely insane. it's provocative. this is the point, i mean, there's lots of posturing going on here and we need to get beyond that because this is a very, very dangerous situation. but as i said earlier, they need to get on the table getting to discuss this, the british government should step back to me. i've had nonsense, a miss country recently on radio programs. and on t v dot, we could be entering a sort of new crime. you will be, it's crazy. we need to step back because the older doing is endangered wells. and of course, our ne not are trying to come out. some back shows. proposals are all certainly rational russians rushes, resistance against the west building of military might on its borders. as a say, i think everyone just needs to get around the table. now talk this thing over and come to a resolution. do you think that i think he reads

a really good point that paul, what do you think the significance as of that? so you had, you had previously having a video chat with bite and a number of days ago, essentially asking biting to tell nato to give russia security guarantees along rushes borders. then you had this big p r video chat between putin and his chinese counterpart. beijing ultimately saying we support russia in its claims with nato ukraine. what do you make of that is a pretty serious symbolic move. isn't it? well as mature. i mean, it seems as if the world is dividing into 2 comes again. i mean, how would america feel if russia began to put weapons in mexico on his border? i mean, it would react to the pretty aggressive manner. so as to say, i think the world is dividing into soon comes for those 2 comes, got to come together. very soon, preferably in a neutral country, as the russians had suggested and get round a table discourses, i'd have to say we need to ensure the safety of the world rarely because i do believe that this is a definitely the danger situation. probably more dangerous,

but at any point, since the end of the cold water needs to be brought to an end, i pulled out all the former leader of the u. k. independent party, joining us life or nazi. great to have you with us. thanks a lot bag. so the manchester arena bomber may have been radicalized by a former nato soldier, turned terrorist that was revealed during an inquiry into the atrocity on 1st, a senior figures from the u. k is counter terror, police and home office gave their closing submissions. give you a quick reminder. what happened back in 2017. a salman are buried, detonated explosives in a stadium hosting and arianna grand concert 22 people were killed. hundreds injured, a corresponding eagerness down off. now looks at the latest fax coming to like he murdered 22 people in one suicide blast. now a public inquiry is trying to establish what turned a hard core party. go into

a suicide bomber, and how it could have been prevented. the probe was yet to deliver concrete answers, but over the past couple of years, it has yielded plenty of disturbing revelations. these pictures unnerved by the inquiry leave, little to the imagination the bomb. his whole family himself included, have been gun toting maniacs, thoroughly radicalized according to the findings. this is his father and the m. i. 5, they admitted they knew about the trigger. happy father who apparently was turning his sons into extremists. am i 5 also knew about the bombers contacts with not one or 2, but 6 people who were just short of being placed on the terror. watchlist. and my 5 were also reportedly warned by the f. b, i that cell mana betty was planning an attack in the u. k. which in fact he was

none of that was apparently good enough to ban him from entry in 2015 and my 5 received information that summoner baby was in contact with the subject of interest as so i see a so i see was a long standing a so i, because we of yes, affiliation with an extremist group in libya, from mid 2015 onwards. am i 5 received information or some on a baby on several occasions which included conflicting information about his a spousal of pro eisley views. ah, this is abdul rove. abdullah, a convicted terrorist, suspected of radical ising the manchester terrorist. he was friends with the bomber with the bomb his father. more than that, they were brothers in arms. within one of libya's largest militant groups. the february 17th marti's brigade, that's where they learned how to shoot, kill and bomb. not without the help of natal instructors, it was a group that had taken up arms to fight against gadhafi. guess in deep we had to

the or forced as, as we were backed up by the whole world and we were fighting and nature was frightened. actually, widows were long sighted as, as the british government. also actually i was chained by and actually natal. it was just normal, basic training in weapons, basic train and yet out to ain't you and reload. militant groups that lay to birth, terrorists have been ones favored by western officials. the inquiry has shown, when of dallas commander was done with fighting in libya, he formed an anti government militia in syria on irish government, money, or did he subsequently a lead a group from libya to syria? it yes, i saw the manner he did and here before that he was in ireland,

is it literally he was at live is a live in irish. i know and, and he was aided by the irish government with money. and i believe the british government also knew about that as well to go and help syrians, if against that, the fight against asset during the libyan conflict in 2011, the british government was in communication with a wide range of libyans involved in the conflicts against the cathy regime forces, it is likely that this included former members of the libyan islamic fighting group in the 17th of february martz's brigade as part of our broad engagement. during this time, the you case helped to rebel groups of various degrees of extremism did not end their britons elite troops were caught on camera in libya, despite official assurances at the time that there were no boots on the ground, them, there was no other choice, but to admit their reality, if the malicious and or era bellows had not been there playing a key role,

i am not so certain that air bala would have resulted in good of his downfall in the weeds it who had a few people imbedded with them, not france so to speak, but beckoned carriers rebel groups firepower grew. nato was dropping bombs by the 1000 and qaddafi while eventually fell. and with him went down libya's security and rule of law. as all this myriad of militias turned against each other vying for power, the country turned into a free for all. so the u. k began to evacuate. it's citizens including militants. well guess who boarded the royal navies. h. m. s. enterprise. back in 20. 14 in tripoli. none other than the future. manchester bomber selman abedi if asked or no. so i knew k officials to comment on the admissions. we'll let you know what kind of response we get. well, for more on the inquiry, you can head over to walk. you dot com, lots of other stories that are not in today's bulletin, including,

believe it or not, our us on ukraine voted against a un resolution condemning gnosticism. yeah, that's just a click away right now at our website. but now on the program, at 3 months after the taliban took over afghanistan, humanitarian groups are seriously sounding the alarm and the banking system has collapsed and the countries on the brink of mass starvation is a situation that is expected to intensify during the winter. i linked to means that even with like, spending the whole day in lines, it's against. and brendan, at 3 loaves of bread help esvito children where the stand and truly the baker says, here from morning to blanket for 3 loaves. brad's, the price of bread has skyrocketed, with hundreds of people, including women, children, and the elderly, come to the bakery every day and make for bread. people live in poverty. prices

reached a loaf of bread used to cost $10.00. i've gone ease, but now it is 20. 23000000 people face acute food shows, juice this winter decimal than half the country's population out to the taliban takeover. foreign donors, cutoff financial aid. humanitarian aid is still getting it. but there is no telling if it will pass the 1st week to test the taliban government is now pleading with the u. s. 2 at least $10000000000.00 in afghan assets which were frozen after the militant group seized power in august. the taliban at foreign minister has asked the world to show mercy and compassion, and we discussed the crisis with a u. s. secretary general's deputy representative or after a situation on the ground in afghanistan continues to be difficult in conflicts. our winter has come. we have temperatures dropping below 0

and people are definitely not having enough food enough warm enough of supplies. so it's a difficult situation. i. our teams are reaching out to over $8000000.00 people now providing them with essential food items and also delivering hundreds of thousands of caves which contain them to zation items and which keep people warm at wind. overall package of age to of cornerstone was estimated at $8000000.00 annually. and through the next year we will be seeking $4400000.00 towards the shipment in appeal, an additional $3.00 to what is basic human needs. the aid is coming and it's pros and an impact. there may more to make a difference for the people on the grounds. however, i've got

a son this far from meeting the needs of the people. i'll tell you friday story still to come here on the program on ot t, including republicans and democrats in america are increasingly at each other's throats. but what is driving the division that story and so much more we are back in about 60 seconds. ah oh, is your media a reflection of reality in the world transformed what will make you feel safer? isolation, community. are you going the right way or are you being that somewhere?

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we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death, unvaccinated for themselves, for families and the hospital will soon overwhelm the us has our original, another grip milestone alleged to $800000.00 cobra deaths comes at a time of soaring inflation and living cost to all of which is having a pretty bad impact on the popularity of the man at the helm. ortiz at nikki aaron explains a tragic milestone bind and cold it. and he's right. the number of cov, a death in the u. s. is now about equal to the population of atlanta and st. louis combined. the toll stands and more than $800000.00, a grim figure, which has doubled in a single year. it's a heavy burden for any president to carry in his 1st year in office. but it seems that president biden took some convincing on the gravity of the situation.

was was 200000 where preventable death lives looks when vaccines wo readily available. and the old habits of blaming donald trump is no longer going to work. just over 4 weeks ago, america had no real plan of action that most of the country, my predecessors, my mother would say, god love them failed order, and our vaccines fail to mobilize the effort to administer the shot. fail to set up vaccines centers that changed the mobile. we took office as by to now use it. his influence to encourage people to get vaccinated. one can't help it. wonder where the trust in the presidents woods has been on the mind vaccinated. 57 to me, 570 to me. i don't want to read. i'm not sure i got to read number. the total

number of boosters is what i have a 77000000 boosters. we have a roughly 350000000 people that actually united states. and as biden comes to the end of what was expected to be a common gear off the trunk post. so that almost at 70 percent of americans habit reservations where the bind and is a leader. they can believe in no doubt not helps by his multiple fo par, like cracking jokes about kentucky after the state was ravaged by killer tornadoes by kid. say the best thing ever came out of kentucky, was my sister in law. the president's performance this year has also been enough to turn some of the mainstream media against him. just months ago, the few to look to bryant as forecast as spoke optimistically about how life with bind and at the helm would play out. but the tune has changed with some media

outlets now, urging bitin against another run. combined president joe biden's age. he'll be 82 shortly after the 2024 election and his ongoing political struggles. he's mired in the low fourties and job approval. and you get this a series of stories examining with abide and runs again, and if not, what might take his place. so was the president to do, he should announce much sooner than later that he would not run for a 2nd term. the arguments against this is that he would instantly turn him into a lame duck presidents. and that's undoubtedly true. bought news flush right now. he's worse than a lame duck. the white house press secretary, however says the president has every intention of keeping his job, whether the country will concur is another matter. so american society being split along party lines could be, quote, irreversible and extremely dangerous. well, that is the finding of a new academic study,

which concludes that division in america is close to tipping point. it claims that polarization has gone so far that americans will find it difficult if not impossible, to unite even when faced with a serious threat such as war of political commentator, naughty contributed. lauren chin gives us her take on how things got to this point . political division in america is at an all time high right now, and it is no secret that by and large the corporate press are not fans of conservatives. after all, they have been calling them not season white supremacists for going on 5 years now . and perhaps it is because the rhetoric against republicans was already so strong that now leading up to the 2020 to mid term elections. and yes, even 2024 general elections. it seems like the new way to demonize, anyone who would dare to support donald trump is not just by calling them ideological extremist as we've been seeing. but to actually go so far as to imply that they are physically a literally dangerous and an actual threat to democracy. and if you think that's

just hyperbole, check out this op ed from the washington post in his piece. our constitutional crisis is already here, writer robert kagan lamented that quote, the united states is heading into its greatest political and constitutional crisis since the civil war with a reasonable chance over the next 3 to 4 years of incidents of mass violence, a break down, a federal authority and the division of the country into warring a red and blue enclave. and to be clear, a far from believing that potential political violence could be a both sides situations where democrats and republicans alike end up taking arms for their respective causes. commentators like kagan and emma send me, sees john heilman, make it clear that in their opinion, the threat of violence comes solely from the right, at least 8 percent. and that may be as many as 12 percent of the american people now say, the job was illegitimate. and that violence was appropriate tool to remove human restoring. donald trump considering that throughout 2020 large scale political violence was almost exclusively left wing arena. with many american cities being

burned or looted under the guise of b, l. m, and t for activism. hearing the corporate press now trying to paint conservatives as the real threat of domestic terrorism in the country might seem disingenuous. and so with all this discussion of political division and even violence should come as no surprise that they talk bit of secession has even come back to the main stream. in fact, as a bloomberg opinion piece recently noted from tax it to the new california republic poles in the us do show strong support for splitting the nation among blue and red lines. and although the concept of balcony zation or succession is still regarded as an extreme suggestion by many in the media, if term supporters and republicans really are as violent and bigoted as they would have us believe that shouldn't they be jumping at the chance to separate themselves from them or perhaps are the allegations against conservatives. merely smears meant to keep them out of political power. all while allowing democrats to enact

legislative control over them. for the world. still preoccupied with covered scientists, a warning of a possibly greater threat in the form of ancient viruses that are lying dormant under the arctic ice. russia is taken the lead on this calling the arctic council to start examining as such, viruses urgently as melting permafrost means they could, if nothing's done, the exposed to humanity. deadly ancient viruses revive horror movie. no reality rushes permafrost is melting. viruses and bacteria that were trapped in frost for thousands of years now could wake up. there are extremely good papers that say yes, you can revive bacteria from deep permafrost. russia establishes an organization to

examine these threats. with that are sure. there are a number of well documented outbreaks of paleo infections that had arisen from thermal degradation of permafrost, and the arctic and sub up to greens, anthrax, smallpox tuberculosis, one virus have already been found. the pits, the virus has defrosted from the pan, the frost, and right after that it started attacking and killing amoebas. luckily it is not harmful to humans, but what else is hidden in the frozen soil? what is awaiting us in 2022. it's certainly read more about that right now at auto dot com. just click on the russia section. well, thanks for joining us, wrapping up this new scott for this hour only though. plenty more story still to come when we are back in hoffman.

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