this rolling, using science against itself. join me every thursday on the alex salmon show, but i'll be speaking together in the world of politics, sport, business, i'm show business. i'll see you then. awe in some of the top stories from us over the last 7 days. russia unveiled a list of proposals to nato for maintaining joint security with moscow's deputy foreign minister. the saying the ball is now and the alliance is cool. when it comes to the escalation of ukraine. the pentagon said none of its personnel would be held liable for the botched drones strike in afghanistan last summer that killed 10 civilians including 7 children in the week. we heard foot grieving relative, a 1000 goth, though nobody approached us. no one contacted us and we were given no information.

how can they compensate for our family members? all the wealth in the world means nothing to was now we've lost 10 of our relatives . and after years of flagging posts is full so misleading. facebook admits in court, but it's much vaunted fact checks are actually based on opinion. ah, oh, hello there lie from ortiz world news age to moscow this sunday. welcome to the weekly with me, kevin. oh, and it's a round up of some of the biggest stories that brought you over the last 7 days. and 1st than friday. so russia release a list of proposals to deescalate tensions with nato. a made phase of a flare up in ukraine among the demands or a scale back of military activity near russia's borders. the western military blocks, as it will. consider the documentary, though, insist that any outcome will require input from k f. a senior correspondent,

we're gazda of reports next than what moscow put forward for years now, we've heard the same thing. oh, things have gone too far. a, we don't want war. we want to be friends for both nato and russia. but things keep getting worse, escalating the russia has taken its step publishing proposals for the us and nato, its wishlist for return to normality, something to start talking about. and it begins with the call to de escalate. to end the constant threats and true build ups which only lead to more of the same. the parties shall not use the territories of other states with a view to preparing or carrying out an armed attack against the other party judge for yourself. where in previous years they threatened each other with, with sanctions or legal action. now openly booth russia and nato, a talking and fearful tones about war,

another cuban missile crisis. i'd like to believe that this is rock bottom, but as no guarantees and guarantees are what russia wants. guarantees for example, that us missiles aren't stationed within a few minutes flight time to moscow. the parties shall not deploy land based intermediate in short range missiles, in areas allowing them to reach the territory of the other parties. moscow sees native slow and unexplainable encroachment towards russia's borders. as an existential threat, nato argues that it's peaceful but right then the u. s. military doctorate, russia is referred to as an adversary. the closer that nato and u. s. troops and tags and missiles move to russia, the more unpredictable the game gets, which is why putin has set his red line. nato states committed themselves to

refrain from any further enlargement of nato, including the accession of ukraine, as well as other states. not that nato things much of russia's concerns. not long ago, secretary general stalkin berg announced that roger has no vito, no se nato operations and no right to any sort of security buffer or fear of influence. nato has proven over the last years that her are open door policy is not on the something we are support in words, puddles in deeds potter by inviting to new countries. montenegrin off m madonna to become members. so we have enlarged the line. so the last few years for to new members, despite protests from, from russia. and also we are supporting ukraine in ukraine's efforts to a con, closer to a natal membership, which sets us back all the way her square one. it, the nip,

it is not. this is not an attempt to revise the post cold war order. it's a response to western expansion which has been conducted in a hostile manner. the, the gist of that proposal that, that the u. s. nato and russia have a requirement for security as essential as food or water that they must, all equally respect. nato has received the proposals and says that a little disgust them amongst themselves and with input from ukraine. there isn't much cause for optimism, buses, requests of largely been rejected, summoned in private, some in public, consult mockingly for the cameras. but perhaps this time sense will prevail, swell moscow's proposals. come as the west again accuses it of it preparing to invade ukraine. claims strongly denied. nature's chief, also stressed cares, request to join, the alliance would be decided between ukraine, nato and its allies alone were the same tommy, highlights of what he called

a pattern of russian aggression. while the kremlin is foreign ministry spokeswoman said remarks like that. only create more tension as i shall wash. now, this is as information campaign it aims to crate. firstly, the image of russia is an aggressor. secondly, additional passion in the region, including the black sea, the russia, green border, and se ukraine. so this will not bring stability and security either international relations or the regional janda guy. yeah, it will undoubtedly complicate everything. meanwhile, journalists are primarily of course western during oil. really use the word aggressor free to our country over to you. what right of the have to do this. i tried understand this every time. when was the last time russia attacked anyone else? people need to back up this claim with arguments and how many times have needed countries at texas her in states, in the last 20 years. and how many special operations were carried out by the nato countries that we were to. can you show me something in close to that from the russian side? now the more there is nothing. you need to figure out where there are faculty and where there's a propaganda. earlier the week we spoke with

a former austrian forum minister current canal. so who outlined ways so she believes could help overcome the current political deadlock between moscow in the west. ah, yes, we are in a stalemate. no doubt about that. but in such a stalemate, it takes people with some sort of creativity. that's what diplomacy is about an international relations and not only about self impaired digna's of national security interests and so on. at the moment we have bayside saying, russia saying, look, we've got grave security concerns about nato. we have eastern european countries, same. we've got great security concerns about russia and a potential invasion. so what, where's the meeting point where the meeting points can only be achieved by saba, pragmatic, diplomatic trust building. there is simply a complete disregard for historic and contemporary a worries on, on, on the russian side. so that, that i think that should be taken into account and,

and to overcome that stalemate, it requires genuine diplomatic creativity. also on the side of nato officials, you and, and to your administration, we see that at all, anywhere. unfortunately, we are in times of a decline of diplomacy, diplomatic practice. if we are in a world of unilateral statements. first of all, this looked at this armament of words. i mean, this terminology is kick cannot be continued as, as it has been the case over the last few weeks. the media should act in a more responsible way of quoting this, this german paper, the bill to which, which is affect plan and so on. so there is a many people are required to act in a more responsible way because the stakes are simply too high. such a language was not present in the cold war days in the seventy's eighty's. maybe

because we still have people in office who knew what war meant. some of them well after the 2nd world generation. so they, they wouldn't play around with words like nuclear at tech or a fully fledged war because they knew what war most about. we have to see more moments now to do really something like confidence building back. and i saw that the us side. what would put this priorities in a different way and that seems to june meeting some more saba and product matic approach. what, what will be on the agenda? no, us military personnel involved in august spots drone strike and gonna stumble face any kind of punishment. 10 civilians were killed in the attack. most of the children we got reaction from

a grieving relative to this and on sunday that was made by the pentagon. last monday. not anticipate there being issues of personal accountability to be had with respect to the august 29th. here strike flock. the key up as the news came, as a shock, is humiliating for us to hear that no one will be prosecuted, they should have kept their word. we hope that the people who ordered and carried out this attack would face justice. the americans claim that they can spot a need on the ground from their satellites. so how could they not see the innocent family they were about to kill? they found no connection between us and islamic state. so why didn't they do those checks before launching obama to us? it looks like no other country is forcing them seek justice. there is no one to challenge them because they're superpower. that's why the americans have failed to keep their promises. when the americans promised justice and compensation and then they would take us to the us, we found out on the news that they would take some measures, but nobody approached us. no one contacted us and we were given no information. how can they compensate us for our family members?

all the wealth in the world means nothing to us. now we've lost 10 of our relatives . my brother was working for foreigners. he was innocent. all of our children were innocent. what did they do from all rutter? they could tra, this girl was among the children killed in the strike. she was just 2 years old for the children have been in a car when it was hit by a missile. in total 7 youngsters were killed all from just one family. will depend again, no initially defended the cavil strike claiming it. targeted members of his law make state more than 2 weeks later though it acknowledged, there was a tragic mistake made a discuss the developments with former u. s. military drone operator. brandon bryant, you know, it's been 10 years since i blew the whistle on the u. s. drone program will be 10 years in 5 days, actually. um, and to see that nothing has changed, even when it's blatantly out in front of everyone's face. how we operate them and no one's being held accountable. like we've been talking about this for 10

years now. when i 1st started talking about it, people called me a liar. people tried to defame me and now that we see it for what it actually is, innocence had been killed, not just innocent and innocent aid worker who was there trying to help. i really think that the managed states has lost knowledge on how to conduct warfare. and it's now a business. they're not going to punish the people that make them money on them. they're just going to punish the people that are so the supposed enemies in the ones that they test this, munitions on who should be punished are the officers. they said that there's a breakdown in communication, but that is mostly a lie. i am must have been that there was there and there must been someone miscommunicating something or but they have everything should be in a chat program like it's not just a radio call instantaneous. you spin up your mess when you shoot. it takes like 5 minutes to get ready to shoot a messiah. this was not an emergency situation. none was under spire. no one was

under duress, no one was under stress. and so they had all the time in the world to make the decision on whether to shoot or not. the cable insta does to a long list of similar disasters, according to the bureau, investigative journalism. up to 900 afghan civilians have been killed by us. drone strikes since 2004, including dozens of children. while the new york times found that hundreds of civilian deaths, what an accounted for by the pentagon. brandon brian shared with me some more of his experience of operating battle drugs. there is no way that anyone who has ever done this job and sit there watching these people live their daily lives. i cannot look at them and say, these are not people there. people because you go home when you go out into your own community and you see the same, keep same types of people doing the same thing. they're going to coffee shops, there, go into bookstores, they're hanging out with their friends and family. there is no disconnect for a drone operator. there's so much connection. like if, if a drone operator were to go over there and to meet the people that they interact

with. visually, they would probably have a emotional break down and cry because they would see these people are suffering and no different than themselves. and that we're perpetuating that suffering because of our actions. we're doing it. facebook uses may have to reassess the information they've been getting from that site after his parent company in the week matter admitted in court. that so called fact checks, a based merely on opinion. revelation came during a legal battle initiated by a journalist after his post were flagged as misleading covering it. then saskia taylor for us, turns out the famous fact checkers who are busy labeling things false partly false, misleading. i've actually been a bit loose with, well, the facts. facebook yet again found itself in court. this time up against a journalist. he didn't like the day slapped a partly full sticker on one of his post. so he food for defamation. i'm because facebook where he spent millions of dollars on legal fees over the years,

it got creative this time and claimed that front check was don't decide what's false, so not based on fact. what to ridiculous idea, but on their opinion. hence the title fact checkup. i'm because opinion in america is sacred. you can't sue it. it's a very, very nifty loophole. but just to really escape any liability whatsoever. facebook double down on how it gives it fact checkers. a very long leash though meta identifies potential misinformation, for fact check is to review and great. it leaves the ultimate determination whether information is full so misleading to the fact checkers. and though meta has designed its platforms so that fact checker ratings appear next to content that the fact check is, have reviewed and rated. it does not contribute to the substance of those ratings. now you won't find any of these details in the giant fuck tech in section on

facebook, talk. com. instead you'll learn about how they interview sources and consult data and look for facts, you know, to really drive home. the point about how it's all based on opinion. i think some of it's 3000000000 uses worldwide, want very pleased. after all, many of them had probably used these facts when auction with our friends. and now it's turned out they would just quoting some random person's opinion. i've been embarrassing really, so that campaigning for facebook not to be let off the hook. court filing, facebook admits its fact checkers. don't check facts. is facebook admitted here that its fac checks are not really fat checks at all, but merely pin im assertions also by facebook claim in its labels constitute opinions than doesn't that make it a publisher. facebook, your opinion piece is not exempt from being fact checked, even when they are clearly labeled as op eds or editorials. also, facebook, all fact shit labels can not be false or defamatory because they consist sheet protected opinion, even though we present them. as fact. my question though is,

what does facebook need these opinionated fact checkers for anyway, after all, over the years, it's proved, it's so committed to free speech. it loves giving people a voice, especially donald trump. it's dedicated to openness, transparency, and of course, democracy. i mean, it says all the time, if your democracy can't tolerate the speech of people, i'm not sure what kind of democracy it is. i do believe in giving people more access to information and more anxious to connect with one another and not reserving those as tools for some small number of elite people. i don't feel comfortable at all saying they don't get to have a voice because i don't agree what they said. our ability to know what is misinformation is itself in question and i think reasonably so fact checkers. facebook's favorite friends protecting it from defamation, setting it free from accountability. someone to hide behind and times of trouble, but most importantly, always ready to get their opinion. you're watching all it's international from moscow. the station, the questions more, the weekly with me,

kevin o' into the and this is i had the alma chrome cove at strike. now nearly 90 countries, causing a lot of alarm this weekend and going into a new way. campbell locked off the break with disgust. the current threats, it's posing the, the big guess to well, health organizations, regional director for europe. ah hello, driven by drink shaped bankers and those with airs. sinks. we dare to ask

ah i mm ah again, health experts in the u. s. a warning with a new coven, omicron where it may be the dominant strain. they're just a matter of weeks and could potentially overwhelm the health care system. the world health organization says the new variance,

now in 89 countries. despite its rapid spread early studies, though from south african hong kong, do seem to suggest on mac holly's less likely to cause severe illness than the delta variant. and very few deaths have been linked to the new strain thus far. however, the netherlands is imposing the toughest lockdown mentioned across christmas, started today, and it's going to go on into mid january germany doing some clamp turns on paper from the u. k. to not as well. london's mass declared a major incident over on the crown spread ortiz, who patricia got more details from the w h chose regional director for europe. how much more do we know about our micron? at this point? we know much more and we have to tours and about all mcclung. it's to, it's the latest valiant. it's spreading much more faster, but i always tell we're not in the business of fighting one variant when the business of fighting all variance and stu, delta is dominant. what we need to do is to implement what they call fife pandemic

stabilizers. number one, increase vaccination coverage, number 2, boost boost, boost number city, double. the number of people varying marks. endorse number 4, ventilate, particularly in classrooms, keep the schools open and fife, implement new treatment protocols. how valid are the concerns that vaccines might prove and effective against on the chron, where we know as of to date, that vaccines are still effective. for the 1st or the 2nd dose may be a little bit less. but it, that it covers with a cert dosed well on the european union. specifically we've seen a range of different approaches. why aren't we seeing a more uniformity from the block in particular, the uniform that has been growing over time. but i think the point that it's still really aleck off uniformity,

what they call policy coherence and it's confuses the people that's right, doubly to was advocating to establish a bung european health city council at the high level to half uniformed in policy, but ultimately still health is a national competency, it's a decision by the country speaking of sputnik v, a r t, we've heard from a number of experts that the issue has been politicized. is that true anyhow? house including vaccines. go beyond politics. we should never take into account the country of origin. i shared the optimism of the present alteration, sedation, that this dub ritual emergency use listing for sputnik really there soon. devastated locals are trying to pick out the pieces literally fall in the unprecedented deadly tornadoes. the rig havoc across vast sways of the u. s. notably the state of kentucky,

but residence discovered some lawmakers in the middle of it all were putting some of them anyway. political point scoring above helping them rebuild their lives, nicky, aramis on last story. ah, a worst most devastating, most deadly tornado of that. and kentucky's history. there's our hometown and everything. everybody's off there was we're shaking house collapsing again. do you see where the whole house is buckled? the little back side of this house is all total devastation for all town, most for historic buildings and outgoing ah

is likely to win the largest tornado outbreaks in our history. and higher towns were destroyed as some 30 powerful tornadoes, ravaged across 6 us dates. the worst affected can, saki needs help support and relief aid. and so it turns to the governments, i'm fellow americans. but politics is politics. and it seems not even a monumental disaster, like this one can bridge america's political divide. and some believe it's a perfect opportunity to show that you reap what you sow. when hurricane harvey's hit in 2017, the 17 senators who voted against a bill to provide billions of dollars in relief. all republicans among them, kentucky's sen, round pole. once again, thousands are suffering,

but there is no time like the present for political punches. we should do all we can to help our kentucky neighbors. good be wisdom the person, but do not for one second. forget that rand pole has voted against helping most americans, most times. very neat. we know, rand paul is a heartless hypocrite. the people in kentucky deserve the relief, regardless of their buffoon ish leadership. much of the dams don't use this against him. and his part in the future, it is a missed opportunity for some it's not even off limits to suggest that if you vote read, then you had it coming, vote for climate change deniers and see what happens. tornadoes in december are rad, but weather climate change was a factor is not clear at this point. still as the country real than shock and concerns over climate change peak. it could also play into the democrats hands as they bid to push a $1.00 trillion dollar climate package through the senate. all i know is that the

intensity of the weather across the board has some impacts as a consequence of a warm animal planet and the climate change. and so it seems something as devastating as this can only wet the appetite for those looking to score political points on whether side of it in the week of climate change experts are warned that time was running out over natural disasters, particularly with the worst off in society, people who was defeated by these types of commerce and kind of disasters. and extreme events tend to be those who are already the advantage. so people who really have a wish of either being the pool or assist too few services, that they have even fewer resources to cook with those native situations.

events a session with once a year or much more frequently than that even much less frequently, politically. we're at a moment where over the last few months, the most recent climate change report from the i t c has been released. and what that report really shows is that we have very little time. and it's incredibly agent who makes quite drastic action. and that's the weekly the way some of the big news headlines are the last 7 days pond out. thanks. have a so much watching this edition line from oscar with me, kevin. i went on next programs for you and your various part to well, richard and from are on air after the break

oil and gas manufacturing electricity, telecomm guys potations. all of them now have t type of infrastructure connected to the internet. so clearly realizing there's disruptive potential so that those countries can't ignore it because it threatens national security issue. but if we take the nato e u countries, virtually all of them subscribe to certain doctrines and maintains selling but task forces. they are a cyber army on behalf of a country. that's their job. oh, working room or should never, she popped in. she said, well, i'm getting ready to go shopping for christmas. and we, we snuck up there was a girl to buy another, shooting another safe part of american life shattered by violence. the gunman was

armed with an hour 15, semi automatic rifle. when the issue comes home, it's time to act. when we're filing on this issue, the other side winds by default lady that lived over there. i was walking one of the dogs, which is why you where again, where you skin doesn't that ticket off of it? i think the people need to take responsibility and neural nanzen be prepared if those kinds of weapons were less available. we wouldn't have a lot of the shootings. we certainly wouldn't have the number of deaths opposed to weight, so the gaining scale, say the po you thought like, was a good segment as a break in that you put in on your plate. and you did the like, you saw a soda context break in there. right? yeah, wait and 1st takes to spring. i want to play

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