hi, petra price says a supply chain still in crisis record inflation on a historically low popularity rating of just 41 percent. at a time like this, you need your people move and that's why you need a rallying cry. what does bite and have a party embroiled and fighting his signature legislation in the dot and now defecting democrats with rumors that is just the tip of the iceberg member, we had an individual reregister from democrat to republican, and i think there are a few other democrats out there that are thinking about it, why not? because they've changed, but the party has changed with what appears to be a crisis of confidence in this changed party. the last thing the democrats can afford is a crisis of confidence in the president himself, but looks like that's exactly what they've got. who the real president, it is country joe mentioned joe biden. madame vice president con charlemagne. i realize it's job by chance. no, no, no, no, no, it's joe biden,

which quite frankly, probably came as news to bite and himself. but i'll kinda side of course, present harris. the proud howard. oh, okay, but kidding aside, the democrats got handed the keys to success. they took over from the country, moved divisive president, they took control of both the house and senate, and yet here, just 11 months on their in disarray with the president probably looking on and thinking that maybe instead of building back better, it might be worth building back a party that seems to have lost its way. as you know, of a society is already split in a is grand thing like daily is growing. most both part is here in america is a break up within the democratic party and in the leadership of president vine house. hasn't made it into the right enough freight. they know the election is coming up to mid turning 2022 and therefore they may lose that. and it's one way thing shows

a lot of hypocrites within the democratic party. i think the democrats know they are in for fighter flight of their lives. they have all been so rather grab a cane, so radical did. they all move far away from the main stream of america, what american people want, and they know it's going to be a fight for their life. they only all white house and they own the congress and the senate, and they have been unable to get to be back better program together and get it class because it actually bankruptcy for america does what it stands for. just a homicide. anything a haman most guy thinks he company, but back again at the top of the ah, [000:00:00;00]

ah, after that sir, we're going underground for our season finale and final show of 2021 a year that's not managed to cure itself of the current of ours pandemic with millions of the world's poorest phil unvaccinated, when the 2 a world leaders gather for the most important climate summit in years as humanity arguably faces its biggest threat. all this while free speech and journalism is arguably still under attack. as a british high court ruling, his left wiki league found a julianna's hunch, one step closer to facing 175 years in prison lifetime campaign for human rights being floyd's front man, roger waters joins me now from new york. roger, thanks so much for coming on this christmas finale. i know we can't just talk happily about the holy land to kick off. i want to get the julian essence for revealing will crimes. what's happened to him and the reports of his stroke

obviously. but um, 1st of all, you spoke up about in support or the prosecution of israeli defense minister benny gant's armed of course by britain the united states nations. and a dutch court is dismissed, dismissed it saying, potential war crimes in 2014 war on garza. well, all gans was doing was he was carrying out government policies, therefore he's immune to prosecution. your wife we had that before. i mean is 70 see crazy. this goes against international humanitarian law as we all know. but, but these were the finer points that were being ab kate backwards and forwards in the hague, by a rather embarrass. i have to say dutch court. i wasn't them myself, but i'm told by people who were there, particularly elizabeth, who was the prosecuting counsel in that case that they appeared to be deeply

embarrassed when they threw the case out of the court, claiming sovereign immunity for penny counts. and the pilot of the f 15 or a 35 or whatever plane it american plane, it was that dropped the enormous bomb on the apartment building where a ishmael seattle is. mother and father and brother and nephews and nieces and were murdered by benny cancer in the pilot. so it's interesting that i'm happy that at least the appeal charges appeared embarrassed. so you know, will it go any further? i've no idea, i'm sure they will come to make you said i spoke out for them. well of course i do speak. i speak out for a any human being who has rights that are ignored. you've talked about, you've talked to his well, the other himself, the policy,

the man i should just say these really government says israel completely rejects the claims that it is carrying out war crimes been against the defense minister says i believe the truth will come to light is not just a matter of the court's technical, legal, lack of jurisdiction, but a matter of justice and morality. i'm sure many countries will understand that there was no room for such an investigation that could harm many other consent badger against the defense minister. o y, a penny. well done on you mad at the guys family. i mean, you know, hey, this comes down to a fundamental kind of beef of mine. as you know, as a shame because we've spoken many, many times. and my platform is the same, this christmas as it was last christmas. and it is the very small platform of paris, 1948, the universal declaration of human rights. do we believe that individual human beings,

i must have dns members of our one race have inalienable human rights or not? if we do then those rights or their right to those basic rights to show of food, barbara, freedom of life, liberty, and all of the rest of it should be protected by international law. unfortunately, we don't have international law because i'm a number of countries are not, are not signatures to the treat you from or so. so there is actually no such thing as an international legal system with any teeth. otherwise the been, it gets is of this, well, the war criminals would we, the peoples of the united nations would be able to bring any, gets in the pilot for the war crime, heinous, unbelievable. crime, killing. he smiled. c. o does how family we would be able to bring them to

court and we would be able to find a measure of justice. so that platform stance this christmas and i will probably be there next christmas in the christmas up. and certainly every christmas till i'm no longer on this planet. but it's something we have to keep working it. don't wait. do you do human rights matter or not? you cannot cherry pick them. you can't say i benny gats. have human rights. i have the right to might be attraction to be and to life and liberty in my family have the right to. but they don't because they live in garza, in a refugee camp and their arab sunday, the enemy. so they do not have the right to life, and i decide that we're talking about the holy land, as i say, guns denies any accusations, a allegations of war crimes. how successful? oh, it's been called the, the lobby, although israel rejects that phrase, is anti semitic. as accessible, given even the siege of bethlehem in 20

o 2. i remember bethlehem apparently quite important for the christmas narrative. even that wasn't covered that much let alone this case. i think it will be the 1st time in intellectual television. it's being covered, as we discussed, how successful does israel's p r machine continue to be this christmas less than it was last christmas. i'm happy to say, and it will be less successful again next christmas because it is becoming more and more apparent to global civil society. that the emperor has no clothes, and this is a terror rest apart sate racist colonialists, set my wrists regime the zionist experiment, and that it has no place on a globe where we proport to support the idea that individual human beings have rights irrespective for their great color, blah, blah,

nationality and all the rest of it. that would mean that arabs have as many human right. palestinians should have as many human rights as israeli jews. and they don't. and we know that. and that does nothing that television can do to convince us the ordinary people for wealth and global civil society that they do have equal rights until they do when are interested in your propaganda and your husband are, you know, and you're explaining to us the israel is a democracy, we all know that both there's nothing democratic about israel, louisa, israel's ambassador, the new new ambassador on what you said there. you wouldn't be able to be a member of the british labor, but he's a case dominant for being boss of the crown prosecution service that persecuted arguably we can exist. julian san jose outlaws words like that said by labor party

members. and i know, i know, i know that i've shit and it's, it's not making me smile because it's funny is making me smile because it's that it was the labor party come to, i mean almost, i mean, i mean quite close contact with my friend for instance, now me, when born a dressy, who is one of the labor party members, wonderful woman, a great woman, the great member of the labor party who's been thrown out of the labor party because they've accused of being an angie's am i i, this is jewish voice for labor, these a jewelry, the sally injurious. i know you are the side of the jewish people under the care, so my leadership are being persecuted by now. yeah, of course they'll kiss star marez. he's a sort of blair clone. he's a, i'll do anything to maintain

a position of political power in this country. and also he is one of the couple of people trying to drag the labor party so far to the right of what it was set up for, which was to represent the working people of great britain by which it did a did to some large extent, even even with the clement, oddly government of the 2nd world war, which was slightly right wing, but with the traditions of a, antony wedgewood, ben and michael foot, and proper people who represented the interests of the working class back is what the labor party was full. and that is where jeremy kobus was trying to steer back to when he was rail, rotate by the israeli lobby and removed from the political same much much i have to say to the relief of the right wing of everything that represents the right wing in

the u k. from nitro forearms. true, theresa may and forest johnson. and care star. huh. because he is part of that group. if you drew a line down the middle of politics in the u. k. and their progressive to care about redressing the imbalance between the rich and the poor. know lowest things the, the i care about. and now i am a when born address he cares about. and patty french, kids about and jeremy colbin, kaz about i. e, they care about human rights, they would be to the left of that kiss dom or is so far to the rights of that line is shouldn't he should be allowed in the labor party is effing joe frank again is against our says he's, he's for the working class, and he has appointed actually some blair, right known blair, right? i think they were admitted to being blair, right? people into his shadow cabinet. and the actually arguably saw seem to be

a little critical of jo biden's decision to withdraw troops or of canister articles of the labor government here that supported the wasn't, have got us on. and iraq, what did you make of this? this is a you know, sort of saigon moment. it's been called some people called it the car to moment at the saigon moment of joe biden. finally ending america's longest war. you know, i, i never watched tv and in our state, i don't follow the news. i don't much, i don't see fox news or m s. n b c or anything in between m. oh, must not interested. the tool in job like is it is like a passing nothing that's in front of you because he's, he's, he never says anything. presto, i mean, they said, well, you would, he does if he works, the nearest you'd see does. but i know that i would say answer from major if he was actually saying. but he biden is really no different from the rest of the ruling

class in the united states of america, they represent corporate power and they represent the b at near liberal capitalist view. that that is a great economic model which we know is and it causes only misery, him pain for the 99.9 percent of the population who don't benefit from it. there is no such thing as trickle down. we all know that what, what it was just got to do with joe biden. well, i'm, i'm, do you know, joe biden on afghanistan? sorry, i didn't take much notice of i should we leave afghanistan alone removing trips when afghan is stand? is that good idea is absolutely a 1000 percent. we were, it was a, it was the brit who went in that, you know, in the early 19th century and tried to take it over and still everything and destroyed. and western pass have been trying to ins appear in that mountainous and

unconquerable country ever since. and the sooner we stopped the better, and i include the russians, even though they were trying to support a democratically elected government, when they, when they went into the country to try and in a fight against al kato, whoever it was that the cia had put in to try and destroy there was a progressive left when government giving rights to women, encouraging education of girls and all of that stuff. let us not forget by roger, i'll stop you there more from the legendary pink floyd frontline after this break with ah, welcome back, phil. we think what for a man, roger waters, you did mention a corporate power. i'm of course we got the chicago school after i and as death. in

santiago, you are friends. i think you guys of a friend of steve danziger. just tell us about corporate power and what happened to him this year. maybe some people will know his name. steven danziger is her human rights act to best, but also i am a lawyer, an attorney, and he represented some 30000 indigenous people in from the north and right forests of ecuador, and a law suit against cher from corporation who had bought the debt, owed by texaco, who drill for oil from 1961 until 1991 or 92. when the cocaine started in ecuador, and state, and don socker and others, won a case in ecuador against chevron and were awarded non point $5000000000.00 in damages which chevron then refused to pay. and they,

then i started to attack don suca, deciding that attacking don psycho was, was their best tactic to escape from the penalty of because the case in ecuador, by the way, was then it was then heard by a number of appellate courts. in ecuador, all of whom established that it was a fair trial. and that shame from should pay this money. chevron. i suggested that don suca was a gangster, and they, he had bribed to judge in ecuador. he had written the judgment in ecuador, barbara bar, barbara, and they bought this cage to the southern district of new york in front of a judge in new york, called louis a kaplan. and just a u. s. district judge alert, oppressed, was as country to mr. daunting. as a social that his conviction was preordained, the court finds him guilty and each gun for one reason. one reason only is it owns

a good did that which with which he is charged with us. nonsense, of course, that that's absolute nonsense. where it may well be that good to who was his, who was done so good lawyer. when he went to the 2nd circuit of appeal in the united states may have made a tactical error in that he didn't that he didn't. and i'm not a lawyer for her, it's kalia complicating vehicle ground. steven dunn's a guy is not a gangster. stephen says he's not. and they actually, in the original trial, the kaplan trial was supposed to be a jury trial because chevron was showing him, get this chevron tried to sue steven dunn's ago for $63000000000.00 of damages in a coach in the southern south k of new $63000000000.00 because they was doubling

the oil company drilling in ecuador in the rain forest. but on the day before his case, they dropped the money end at the same. which meant that danza good could no longer have a jury. and that could be tried by sticking abida lewis, a kaplan. so the whole case was tried by this one mad. i mean, why i wanted to talk anyway, they locked danziger up for contempt recently, and his since been let out of danbury correctional institution in connecticut, danbury, connecticut. and none of us quite sure why he was given a 6 months sentence for contempt of court. and he had so 45 days when suddenly shambler came to him at breakfast one morning and said, oh, we'll let you out tomorrow afternoon, or the self to know mr. dunn's. really. yeah. and where, where did that come up? somewhere?

high out. but we don't know any more than that maybe was and maybe it was a great environmentalist in the by an administration. i mean everyone, everyone admits certain, oh, wrong doing in that case and i was more of focusing on it. i mean, let alone the injustice of the case. i don't think is supported as, as alleged. it occurs during a cop 26th year, and many people watching will think. well, obviously we shouldn't be drilling for fossil fuels and, and hurting indigenous rights in communities where we can destroy the rain force. i mean, that, that seems to be a mainstream media narrative of after all. what do you think the circle, mainstream media hasn't been telling us about cop 26 and it's great achievements. do you think it was a corporate to green washing festival? i think it was. i think there was no temp to that of just being i was just talking to my friend brown a know and, and others on the, on us but a focus as well,

on the not on another 2 or 3 final interestingly enough. right. and, and it was interesting what brian had to say, he said there were 40000 young people in glasgow witnessing this event and will interest me is what their responses to it. because clearly cop 26, he's not going to have any effect on our governments or on the corporations who are making their billions out of destroying the planet by bending, by continuing to bone fossil fuels. even though all the evidence is there before our eyes, that this is destroying the future for our children and our grandchildren, and everybody else is children, grandchildren. but so, and one of the questions that came up in our previous conversation was, well, how are these 40000 young people going to have a, going to develop a unit by boys and make some sense politically,

because it were one of the things that came up which is very interesting how we progressives, who like to think about so on the left turn on one another and split our ranks over other issues if you see what i mean. so that, oh, and brian told a really good story said it's been like you're in a life boat. ok. and it's filling out with water and you're all about to drown. and somebody starts bailing out, right. which is a good thing because it might save you, but one of the other people in the by the way, you can't use that as plastic, is a plastic cup. you can't buy out with a plastic cap and, and it, you know, it's, you're laughing because it's funny, but it's really, it's great the world by the end. i'm the lien. i might end you being, you being demonstrating outside the british consulate in, in new york,

after we heard that he thinks, is julian sands out of, at a stroke here in london, the, as he's been incarcerated after a british court judge, lord burnett, i understand who they overturned psychiatric reports, the magistrate court saying that he will die in the united states if, if extradited, what is the left to say about the julius arch case? where might or might say you, you and others are calling for direct action. now you don't believe that this judicial process is fair in any way on corrupt. well, hang on a minute. lord chief justice burnett sitting there in his bloody wake, you know, with his face falling offer. i looks like over by my scotch whisky to me. but it might be something else. who knows? this is the blow could go snares dino, with his old university pal. what's his name?

duncan shower in the form of foreign minister. i stood up in parliament and coal julian assange. what did he call him? a little was a worm eaten exactly. he does say in a minute he was a foreign minister who he actually watched her assange being rendered out out of his political asylum in the ignoring embassy from a m on a monitor. and the senator, as a foreign minister. yeah, he said there was nothing that was required to be logged in. government records about the fact that he met the judge. nothing related in terms of the subjects they talked about to their roles as a minister or judge was sir, was discussed. and oh, hello. yes, the john chair. yes. well, you know, now i'm very good. yeah. this money a sanjay, right. we oh, you know we, we never spoke about it, right?

yes. ha, that bang. are you kidding me? they didn't talk about as sonjee. they're on the same page step there. of course they spoke about it. that's why they're denying it. i mean, yeah, i mean, obviously lots of journalists and lots of journalists in the, in the media here. they tell me, circle me through media, tell me they, i mean, we know about the attack jobs where the guardian newspaper would have been actually described by the un, which were up to or, and torture. neil's meltzer is a form of torture. and alan duncan has admitted, he tried to keep the smirk of his face in his diaries, as he has to day drinks a parliamentary office, drink sir team for the team involved in the eviction. actually from, from the embassy he gave her lemon marino. a beautiful porcelain plate from the bucket. buckingham palace gift. sure job done. he added this is from, from his diary. i mean, the action action just just, just for a minute for me. okay. yeah, we'll,

we will now about all of that and it's disgusting and everything in 8 can measure. but imagine you can't see me because there's a big puff of smoke care smoke care. this is all smoke and mirrors to prevent us. we the public from, from looking squarely at what's going on and going on a minute. hang on, this is illegal, julian, the sanchez committed no crime this totalitarian government, which causes of a dame, deb parliamentary democratic government in the u. k. has locked up a completely innocent man, completely committed. no crime. certainly under english law. none. they've locked him up for 2 and a half years in a very, very high security prison. the highness security prison that we have in the united

kingdom with no recourse to the law. none except to appear before. oh yeah. we didn't speak about back, little pre bazaars to be know ah, in front of him. this is, there's nothing legal. this is not the law operating. this is something a piece of theater made up by this tyra ramco, a regime headed by parish johnson. it's nothing to do with the law. that's what the smoke and mirrors is supposed to prevent us from going. you can't do this to this man. he is an innocent journal, just a like, i want to just say we're going to the end of this christmas bedroom. watch it a joy. i mean, you know, you're a musician, you do rub, brian, you know, and i great musician, only if a journalist is given a usb stick with a collateral ver collateral murder video, showing more journals, more civilians being killed. what would you tell that journalist to do,

given that now we know that journalist, for publicizing the murder of a civilian, could face a 175 years in american jail, regardless of their nationality? what would i tell him to do? do the right thing, like my mother told me to do when i was a 13 year old child sheep. my mother said to me one day and i told the story before i was like 13, struggling with some facia. and they are going to be lots of things in your life that are difficult and you may struggle with what to do. oh, bob, do the research, find out everything that you can about the question that you're facing? when you've done that, you will have done all the heavy lifting. the hard work is over. the next. it is easy. do the right thing for george's merry christmas. thank you, merry christmas to you. that's it for this season finale and the final show 2021 will be back on wednesday,

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