now be targeting not any cities and nuclear nato nations, but australia to after the biden johnson morrison nuclear submarine deal and is u. k. labor leaders against armor declares his party, the party of nato. we are the palestinian ambassador to new k. if he has any hope for her majesty's opposition when it comes to fighting for the palestinian people after another week of us armed violence in palestine refer to the day after mainland china's national day celebrations, which mark 72 years and see a stablish mind of the people's republic of china, of the chinese communist party, won the civil war against the u. s. backed nationalist party. this i'm in control, vesee of revelations of phone calls. my us general milly to re insure china new, eminent us nuclear strike, and a surprise, australia nuclear submarine deal with london in washington. joining me now from aging is the sense of china and globalization, vice president, victor gao. victor, thanks so much for coming back on. as i said, is the day after you have britain's the queen lives with the aircraft carrier

coming towards your maritime borders. nato countries openly threatening your existence, ro, us as ronald reagan strike, carry a force sailing towards you. bad times for china, welsh, i'm that just celebrated the 72nd national day hold and 3 hours in a mood of our great celebration. i was very happy or united. the government. yes, of course. there have been lots of incursions or impulses that carry and the ocean all kinds and possibly so are eats into china and other waters around china. this is a very serious matter in china condemns such incursions and they are not purely freedom of navigation. exercise is they are using freedom of navigation as an excuse to challenge channel sovereignty and territorial integrity. and in such

a way, china not only contempt it will prepare the consequences for such violations of china's national interest. i mean, now we will come watch our video about the economist magazine on our youtube channel in widely quoted remarks around the world. there may june correspondence saying she didn't thing. we'll try and unify china before he leaves office. what he may give, he is very popular, i'm on the challenge people. he probably will be very long. so be in positions, not the unification of china. that is china's mainland. with china. taiwan properties is a mega trans about time it will happen sooner or later. it will happen peacefully if we can, and not peacefully if it has to be. so we need to prepare for that day when the reunification will happen. and i personally believe no force whatever from

whichever part of the world will be able to stand in no way of chinese people's reunification. now, you know, repeated an expert opinion over the decade saying china's economy was about to blow up its poor growth. all the rest of it. we have headlines in nature, nation media saying you have massive power goods. you learn human rights abuses, engine. jang. well, i mean is the power on engaging? it looks like that you have the lights on there. apparently cold stocks for only 15 days left for the 6 biggest power generation companies. but 11300000 tons of the 21st of september. well, talking about the power shortage in china. i would say to a very large extent that was inflated by china itself. why? because china now has declared to the world and has informed the chinese nation by 30. i told you so the channel need to have the p t of the c o 2 emission by and the

60 h l a. need to achieve neutrality of c o 2 emission. as a result of that, the chinese government is really putting a lot of pressure to coal style, coal bass power stations. and that actually was a big reason why there has been recently a big shortage of power in some places, abrupt county of power supply without informing the people in a timely manner should be corrected, i would say. and then the government and power suppliers need to figure out a way to make sure that while town is absolutely doing the right thing to allow the c o 2 emission by closing down some other kobe's, the power plants, how china can manage to provide enough power from other sources to the end users, that's

a challenge that china need to balance going forward. the un says it's not gonna happen in time and have even in 2021 you're having problems with the fossil fuel emissions and all going to go down to china. the biggest obviously, you know, per capita of the biggest emitter in absolute terms. well, if you look at china's tracker, all the over the past 10 years, also the cap, the unit c o 2 emission for the chinese manufacturer inside the industrial side has been cut down. there is significant, significantly now or china, which is still enjoying very wrapped up in economic development. this goal has its own pay. but i think different sectors and the whole population in china are ready to go through this very painful period to achieve the government. the higher the target on one hand, and also to make sure that the economy in general need to proceed in

a normal way. rather than suffering significant disruption, please keep in mind that china has enough power generation as it is. the real problem is, what materials do use if you continue to use a lot of coal as the primary source of power, then the government is very much determined against it. if you use other sources of power, for example, natural gas or crude oil or increasing the renewal source is sola we, it's address, then the chinese government is very much encouraging that well, hopefully overly more of the solar and wind and renewables rather than the oil. and gas, no one's measuring the fossil fuel emissions of all these warships from nato, the u. s. and u. k headed your way. what did you make of these revelations in washington? general milly, the joint chiefs, us, joint chiefs chairman saying that he had to reassure chinese counter guard that

there was not going to be a 1st nuclear strike on china. first of all, i think generally is highly regarded and respected from the chinese side. know what is happening in washington the congressional hearing and really is testimony. congressional hearing is a confirmation of one point that is very important. that is, there will be no wall between china and the united states, and that is in the best interest of mankind. there are people who are very eager and agitated to provoke a war between china, the united states, and they are not doing that in the interest of the american people. some people in the united states even claim that china and united states needs to have a wall with each other. they are little understand the consequence of a war g channel, the united states. because if it is

a matter carefully to what henry kissinger has to say recently, he's basically saying, any war breaking out each, i mean i was states may soon escalate into, i'm again, my hand is found anything, henry kissinger, anything, it just says where the global cell is usually a, is usually a reverse barometer, arguably. i think, you know what happened in vietnam, cambodia in and allow you have said i noticed previously that australia will lose its privilege of not being targeted by chinese nuclear weapons. thanks to this surprise, august deal between washington london and cambra. is that gonna happen? should there be nuclear missile upgrades to the nuclear submarines now being talking about coming from britain in the united states? well 1st of all, this august is very much against the world because world today needs peace and stability. i possess you nuclear weapons,

nuclear submarines and they are kind of fine to me. it's a claim that is nuclear power summary. it is not agonized summary, but i would argue the difference on the hess richie is really very much artificial, because a submarine is a weapon. and if it is powered by nuclear power, that nuclear power summary can strike or can be attacked in time of war. and attacking a nuclear power summary, and we'll turn that summary in itself into a big explosion. and that's definitely will constitute a big nuclear weapon to start with. therefore, i would say, by possessing nuclear submarine either nuclear power summary, or nuclear weaponized or submarine australia will no longer qualify. as a member of the nuclear re south was a big song. so i would say the australian government is not informing the

australian people 23000000 them sufficiently about what will be the consequence of office. because i believe the australian people do not want to lose that privilege and coverage it status of being a nuclear free country. leading in that big people or south has a big nuclear re song. because by losing that status, australia will be targeted with nuclear weapons. well, as i said out of scope morrison, they're striving needs saying they're definitely not nuclear weapons, but to just find the, i mean, china has seemingly been supporting the federal reserve making bitcoin illegal. it's losing a propaganda war, arguably in the west, completely as we get more and more articles and so called liberal papers talking about the need to confront china. and kamala harris with joe biden's, vice president said, aging continues to cause cause to intimidate and to make claims to the law. the

vast majority of the south china sea, you think the communist by the will remain calm. as the rhetoric is heated up more and more in coming weeks, listen, the americans should know better than many other countries because ink 1945 when japan unconditionally surrendered. japan surrendered all the islands aisle reefs in the south pacific sea to the republic of china. because on that time, china, in the form of the republic of china, the united states and the former soviet union and grip, and to a lesser extent, france, we were the victor nations, after defeating nazi germany in europe and imperialistic which in the east and japan surrendered everything to charlotte in 1945, china in 1945 was the only independent country standing on its feet

after winning the war against japan. so the united states knew this attack better than men. and just as a matter of fact, the united states dispatched it's only or forces to help the republic of china naval forces to reclaim all these islands and reefs in the south china sea, from the surrounding japanese soldiers. therefore, we do not need to look beyond 1945. we just need to stop at 1945 and check all the historical records. and china has undisputable crane to laws, islands, and reeves, et cetera. and where you accuse china of violating other countries claims, where do they trace their claim back to 1945. we need to call a spade a spade. thank you. go. thank you. thank you very much. after the break,

after another week of u. s. u. k armed violence in palestine, we speak to the palestinian, the message of the u. k. about a new ultimatum for israel. all the small can we help? we bought 2 of going undergrad. there is no such thing as you rely on security. all real security is always collected. this is precisely how russia use and was western hostility and nato expansion. moscow is presenting ways to avoid conflict. here on security is the west suite at the switch with welcome back at the same you. k, labor party conference were anti jeremy corbin,

leader. secure, stammered declared his body to be the party of nato. emotion was past calling for israel to meet because of the ongoing knock by palestine. the motion that passed without much publicity called for an ethical trade policy and an end the u. k. arm sales to his rail progress after another week of violence in palestine and with the palestinian ambassador britain who sons omelet. ambassador, thanks so much for coming to the studio. i mean, we've had killings all week in palestine, kings of children, by british armed israeli soldiers and had said last year was the worst for the palestinian authority before we get on the british issues. i mean, how bad is it there we go with and the occupation about very well. i mean, of course, are covered at palestine, the policy and economy as it did all over the world. but the particular, if you're wall situation, that is the occupation has really made things much, much worse, according to the same. you are an organization on the policy in

a column. it was, is $2500000000.00 every year because of the israeli occupation policies, particularly the theft of our resources, the control of our natural resources, land, water, and what have you and the crumbling, a closures and processes that does not allow the palestinian economy to utilize its full potential that the seizure garza, this is the last for 16 years. in fact the, the u. n. has estimated that all lease since 2001 to 2007 in the policy and economy loss. $50000000000.00 because of israeli measures hostile adverse measures. that's more than please 3 times the size of the entire policy and economy. and if you look deeper, you will see that people focus more on the military aggressions of the occupation. there's radio compression. but there is economic waffa, this has been happening for decades since the, the, this,

the economic warfare has many tools. not allowing us to trade. you know, the export on import are completely controlled by it's not allowing us to have our own currency as in central bank, not allowing us to have any serious fiscal policies in addition to the movement of people. and would you say this to say this is james cleverly morris johnson's office minutes? what did, what did he say is britain arms, israeli army, that is killing your people? this is, this is, this is a very major discussion. a main point. and the discussion that, you know, we are not seeking aid here, we are really seeking trade and we are seeking to utilize our own resources that are being stolen on a daily basis. in every sense, you know, of the didn't see of the west bank the occupied west back is very rich in mineral materials and resources and steves on a daily basis. it's a multi $1000000000.00 industrial exports to the west. of course, we discussed the issue of the legal trade with these settlements on resources that

the u. k. must ban the importation of these programs. of course we discuss resume. he said no to that whilst opposing the settlements. they always acknowledged the legality of settlement. they say that with all the encourage our businesses to do any transactions in the occupied territories, but there is no enforcement. this is what we insist on short of enforcement consequences, the verbal commitments, the international law means very little and we've been added for now 70 years. and this one does not even hear the statements. well, great news though, at the labor party conference, when from the floor, ordinary members said no more on sales, no more sales from occupied territories. that there is an ongoing knock where the apartheid is there. what did you make of a lease? and then the, and the system or leadership distancing themselves from the vote on the floor. you were there at the conference. yes, i was very disappointing actually, unfortunate because that was a democratic vote. the resolution,

the motion passed overwhelmingly, which shows the depth of support of the labor base to the issue of palestine to the cause of palestine and to international law. and then if you go back to the motion, you will read that it is primarily about enforcement of international law, about attaching consequences to legalities that the motion or it was very clear a it for finally, this is the 1st time such a language comes out that ok, we recognize the sort of a sort of legal, but we want to do something about that and therefore we must seize any trade with these illegal entities. for exporting arms, who is a must be in line with british law and international law on israel is evidently in violation of all these laws. but more than that, it's also the narrative that they paradigm, the framework. for years we have been talking about peace process and underlying

process. so for 30 years since 199130 years. exactly. we have been stuck with the international partners, including the name of parking by the way, about this discourse of because it's beyond anything under the jeremy corbin label, but these process speech process, speech process. and whenever we tell them that we are accepting the piece process that the last you should go back to the negotiating, what is a new about this, this new motion? it's really and the situation in israel terms, and it's real narrative that this is a colonial part. of that, this is why that is no clearly defined as an apartheid regime controlling largely on civilians and the for the palestinian people have the right to protection and to resist. i mean, you say apartheid that, you know, that's a guess, thomas warren, secretary of orange release, and then the said just to condemn israeli atrocities. and we know that scores of women and children were killed in main. garza is to be anti semitic. what did, what did so kiss carma say to you, did you have a good chat with him?

yes, i met him and we have, we have very good job in the, in the summer is the human rights lawyer. it was exactly international law. it was the values of labor, the values of the, of the u. k. and therefore, you know, there is, it's obvious, there is a gap between the leadership and the base. and hopefully that will be bridge because and then, but we know he's bankrolled by israeli lobby. is that correct? you didn't raise the fact that he's from a leadership campaign, was financed by someone who supports israel. the key matter here is how, how to present that of the leadership of its own base and how to present that of the leadership of the values of labor. these values are the values of social justice, of equality, of international. those are the was words all the time. you only there at the un general assembly. and what did you mean? what did he mean when he said, i give israel a year to get out and abide by un security council resolution to we won't recognize

israel, something about the international court of justice. you'll go to the international court of justice in a year's time. why don't don't out, why give them israel another year? and there isn't a national community. there's a national community has invested heavily in the project. remember, the 2 state solution is an international requirement and israel feel that international equilibrium that international division and legitimacy. and today he's our president and our people are throwing back the ball into the international in a year's time, early israel be much worried about that. the israel denies it as well as john, when you mentioned the i c c. investigation. boy johnson is clear and says that is an attack on israel, the i, c, c, the independence of the i. c. c is very important and i don't think politicians should intervene. what judges, this court was established exactly for issues like ours. so war crimes are prosecuted, war crimes or criminals are held accountable. so if the prime minister is johnson

has an issue with this, i think he may have issues with international legality. i mean, it's not just about johnson, joe biden. the united states also says the i c, c has no jurisdiction. it's very unfortunate and extremely unfortunately some of those of the so called free world the for the very same countries that established these laws. and these conventions, and these courts would doubt it's legitimacy and its independence. and its relevance is, is extremely unfortunate. and i believe this is, this is going to be on palestine. this is about this kind of world we want to 11 and the kind of world we want to leave for our children and grandchildren. and i think it has caused a lot of damage because of the special relationship to our global system. you mentioned leadership there. i mean, is there ever going to be an election in your country? i mean, when we do, bus ended is german to indiana. we are one of the very few in the region. my friend who convenes real and true and transparent kind of actions. we are one of the few

who really base our legitimacy on the little critic, the newer stuff happened. unfortunately, as i was absolutely keen on creating all the divisions of even goes, i love the so called will roll it 2005 crating the vacuum. regrettably since then, we were not able to convene a proper, a comprehensive, national since what we agreed all political parties, including to have us to convene national elections as you remember earlier this year. and then we had the obstacle of israel, v to again. yeah, i mean, you know, you know, what are some people in the last somebody will not even in the west. and you might have seen the un security council talking about palestine the other day. they said that your fighter people are cooperating with israel in coordinating assassinations . they talk about news or by not abducted only 20 votes of june, 42 injuries inflicted with metal pipes. well, what is going on here is, is you are,

is my, with the bus in with israel against the palestinian people. i don't accept this question or shot because you need to here to those are you. i want to start only a few days ago in washington and in the new york. when he said he will never meet president a bus because a bus is deploying there for want to kind of, i guess, district. and he is know this kind of does not well, did you guys kill him? mistakes happened. the incident was very unfortunate. the palestinian officer took responsibility. there was investigation, the 14 soldiers, all police policeman, rest of them were actually invited and prosecuted. and there is a court going on. there are president met all the heads of the human rights organizations in palestine only a few days ago. actually a couple of weeks ago to be precise and they agreed not old enough to make sure that our basic law, our constitution. i mean was that our respect to human rights is going to be

implemented between the civil society and the leadership. so that was a mistake and you get a bill and a good, but that does not deviate from the major fact that everybody goes of pills. 510, palestinian. there is a lot of efforts by the li, lobby, the machine to describe the situation as into a study and interval. even rush is always said that rushes away. the you, in general, if you in national, at the security council said the problem here to an extent, obviously there are lots of problems. there are violations of un security council resolutions is not unified. why is it, there's not a joint press conference with us. and the us authority in guys altogether showing unity unified and this is absolute requirements. and the prerequisite egypt is mediating between all the office as we speak. we met in istanbul, and in cairo we agreed on all the details. i tell you the, the, the heart of the matter,

the root cause of all this is an occupation that is in control of everything. when we were very close to elections and then you will all of the mccarthy process establishing a nation, you know, to go a month, they pull the code of, of jocilan. they're denying us the right to convene election. although in fact, it's joe biden is saying, he's saying he's opposed enough to have been it's idea of not allowing us to mission in ramallah. he didn't do anything about it. i myself as a protestant number so that here went to the british government. we went everywhere coding for them. our foreign minister came to london just days before postponing the lectures. are pleading with the government. a book question on is when to allow us elections and is also faust. is wilson. it is the occupied can become a fun time. it's the compass of the palestinian people. you see every time you will sit in the statute and thought people are focused on united defense to them. so that is no way we could actually allow for all of them across the process to go ahead without our campus without our heart and without the occupant can with especially like what from has done a couple of years ago. you know,

recognizing the top you a so we couldn't and the for it is important that you're asking these questions to pinpoint. of course elections are important, but we are doing elections and we are doing palestinian institutions for an over or national objective, which is independence. which is a return our rights, the end is also in the end is our state. and our rights is, was trying to make us in a continue in an endless process. and in that process, chip chip, take away your listen. now this and this and actually look at are going to compete elections and you're occupied by the way, jerusalem is not a city that with joscelin, mississippi. we own more than 350000 pounds that he has on every church, every most, every shop, every house in jerusalem and then next. now they will tell you ok elections without janine elections without what kind of accept this data. it is crucial to continue with our friends with all this information of support. you've seen what happened to me, the inspiration in the streets of london and the streets of washington,

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