tv Cross Talk RT December 29, 2021 3:30pm-4:01pm EST
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hello, i ah hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered? i am peter lavelle at the end of every year across soc answer some of your many questions. not surprisingly, many of your questions, concerns politics, the current international situation, and whether we should trust legacy media. we will do our best to answer as many questions as we can. i rostock in q and a, i'm joined by my guest, glen deason in oslo. he is professor at the university south eastern norway as well as author of the book,
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great power politics in the 4th industrial revolution and in plymouth. we have patrick kennings and he's the editor and founder of 21st century wired dot com. all right, gentlemen, crosstalk rules and effect. that means you can, joan, any time you want, i got a lot of questions. let's see, we can get to as many as possible here. the 1st question is, let me go to glen 1st. what are the chances of an arm conflict involving russia and nato in the new year? thoughts? well, i think it's so unlikely, but it's becoming increasingly likely and i did, they are a good, couldn't use his other recognizing actually difficulties that we have in europe. and them the main conflict as effectively what is the european, secure, secure the architecture for the russians, they're demanding. it has to be based on all our underpin security agreements, which suggest invisible security. so, you know, made to, for example, once on public spender, security at the expense of russia. well, the nate was arguing european situation based on the principle that naples freedom
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to expand. so, so this is the main main main main conflict of this, or having discussions about this, which is something didn't, didn't want to do in the past. but that being said, ma'am, and then also said that russia has pointed out that it will intervene in ukraine. if you claim that taxed on bus, or if there is any nato is expanding or even, you know, u. s. troops starting to move in to ukraine. however, that being said, if russia intervenes, the americans have many cleared enough to respond and intervene them on the other side. so it seems that the war can be avoided. that being said, there's always this risk of a miscalculation so affecting the problem if someone wants to have a peace agreement. but they did this, that doesn't seem to be any room for compromise. and in the absence of disagreement in a parents who might become normally alternative, imp, patrick,
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think the interesting time, right. i mean that the fact that they're talking ok, the russians have said that big nato has been talking like this for 20 years. ok. the russians want it in writing. i mean, this is something new. it is a bit of a departure from their usual procedures here. i think that's why it's important that talk is talk, but we want it in writing. we want it to be public and transparent. go ahead, patrick. i think it rushes in a very on diplomatic position because it's made it's intentioned well known. it's setting the pace, especially by it's recent, move it in december. ah, with issuing it sort of demands against nato. but the thing that worries me is you have a very week president in the white house and mind you this, if there is anything up in terms of aggression from the nato side or anything they would like to provoke. it's always on the table, just a question of when it's most politically opportune to do so. and if this administration is desperate in washington,
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they might push the button on something. i'm not sure what that something would be in order to resurrect it's flailing a poll numbers. this has happened many times throughout history, so it's not anything that we should be surprised about. so, but i don't think there's a lot that nato can do, other than provocations and skirmishes as we've seen in recent years, with the current straits and so forth. but what, what really worries me is there a potential for a, a misunderstanding or a false flag, or a nother m h 17 type of van. and in which case, the west would automatically blame a russia and then that would most certainly trigger a new round of sanctions. and the point of that is, is the bigger picture here is about what the global agenda is or what the agenda for europe is. and it's to not allow the, makes records to be realised, and that, and crates that sanctions oliver, that europe in the,
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in the west will continue to hold over russia. so, and this is part of a bigger agenda, which is to balkanized di, global eyes and di carbonized europe. so i think that's the bigger picture in the background. and what we're seeing on the, on the military skirmish front or the provocation front is really just an excuse for the, with the west and the dominant interests in the west. to exact this, a new, a globalized urban, anti anti globalized, or globalist agenda. whichever way you wanna frame it so, but it is a very dangerous a potentially dangerous situation, hopefully could avoid of full scale conflict. well, will certainly be keeping an eye on it as we have always have. let's go to our next question here, glen, i don't know if this is exactly up your alley, but it's an interesting question. what is worse? corporatism in oligarchy, or neal liberal woke ism, it's a breton tastic question. i think we could do a series of programs on it. go ahead. ok, that's
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a good question. i'm not sure if they're mutually exclusive. i mean, okay, a lot of this new liberal work is a kind of go some it's hand in hand with corporatism. again. i think that's one of the key problems in with, with the neo liberal economics and oligarchy that follow this. and now that the political system hasn't been able to function as it shoots. so again, the political left to redistribute wealth, political ryan conference for protection or redistribute and protected a distinctive communicators. cochran produce its own culture, all this alyssa, regular, and his issues, which he will usually have been pursuing. now i think that the, in the absence of any of the political parties either ref, left to right, being able to address the main economic problems and the main problems are economic . i think it's more appealing to go into a culture war. so yeah. why, why,
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why do i talk about the economic inequality becoming of the sustainable where they can talk about transgender toilets and no men competing us women in sports, all this nonsense? i think j. m. yeah, not necessarily michelle, mutually exclusive. but if i would pick, i guess, the neo liberal walking from the house it's, it has a greater chance simply because it is. yeah. deconstruct some of the most basic information. so society, so yeah. okay. patrick, the same question to you. i mean if the i, i tend to agree with glenn here. i mean the both are bad been like to choosing one of the other. go ahead, you give it a shot. well, i would have answered it pretty much the same as glen did regarding that they're not mutually exclusive. but the thing to point out, which i think is really interesting, as is the west has used, woke ism or used the culture wars to break down. other countries and to soften them
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up internally and to undermine a traditional of values and the sort of traditional or conservative or cohesive elements of a society. certainly the, the western media and the activist, global activist community in the vase network and so forth. i have done this to russia with regards to l using l g b t issues. they've done this to syria as well. so if you look at the target nations, iran as well. so if you look at the target nations that are on the west regime change list, they've used this, but this is a bit of a jeannie that has been let out of the bottle and threatened to really destroy some of these countries or politically destabilize them from inside, certainly we're seeing this in the united states, and it threatens really to a vis rate of the current form of the democratic party as well. they cannot handle the, it's gotten out of control. so maybe maybe we're seeing the,
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the end of the arc of, of this and it might be turning in another direction. certainly it's next, a central crisis for the democratic party. yeah. way to allow this radical wing to take over. yeah. when these people are in a circular firing squad, just let him finish it off themselves. okay. it's rapidly go to the next question here. i can, this is probably, this was the most popular question sent to me i'm, i'm a little disappointed, but i'm going to give it to you guys anyway. i do think trump will run in 2024. and if you do, do you think it's a good idea, glenn? oh, and he has suggested that he, my drum, i also hillary clinton has indicated she might run as well. so we might get a repeat of 2010th. i'm how ever i'm not quite sure if you will run. it's still a while into the future and i guess it would depend on the mood of the country. so like if are you in 2016 he wouldn't run, you can think he could swim. and besides, i think it depends on the support she has from the political party and from the
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voter snob. i, i don't, i don't think necessarily that is should road simply because i think with united states needs the most now is a 2 year bridge. this huge polarization within the united states, which is saying you're getting out of control where the perceived the political position effectively to be an enemy. and this is something you have to trust. so unions, perhaps a less polarizing figure and you know what? you're like, or hate donald trump or i guess we'll can objectively say, he says quite polarizing. and i think that's a bit of an interest to take for the united states. i think the 2nd main challenge with united states is he needs to adapt to the new world order that is, in effect the lead been running the past 30 years. ideal of a liberal hedge money where the u. s. would rule the world under its own principles, and i think this has come to an end and it has to be some, oh,
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way of transitioning away from this. now i think donald trump is not necessarily rejected usaa global head tamani. if you simply believe that, you know, for funding, subsidizing allies went to costly and here other are running with this on his own. however, he did reject the liberal hedge him on the part. so i think from that perspective a he sees main value, i guess, to us has been that is a transitional figure. so i think that a lot of new voice, a soft come up in the united states since he became president. are there yeah, contesting the whole idea of live hedge a monic both in clinical right and legal, less or bugs. and for him the person to choose to run himself, i think will be midway with my successor, made a one of the problems. although i do not stay simply because the seems have to come
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to believe he clamber terrorist attack on the capitol hill. you know, he's on the agent to russia. i think it's very difficult for him to her yet to lead to such a divided country. yeah. in any case, if it was a rematch with a h r, c would be a whole lot of theater, but it wouldn't solve anything or a gentleman. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on this year's q and a stay with r t ah ah, whoa at the new year, special kaiser? it board with the one and only gerald salenti, originator of the transport, jasmine, you know, stuff who's diagnosed with cancer
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your make life and death decisions and determine to get to live and who dies to me, that's best getting away with murder. welcome back to cross stock where all things are considered on peter labelle. to remind you we're discussing this ears. q and a ah okay, go ahead. add back to patrick. here. patrick, you want to answer? should trump come back in 2024. your thoughts? go ahead. i think on some level it's, it's inevitable if you take the temperature of half the country right now in the u . s. certainly all the signals are there of you watching a media and so forth. but you know, you have to consider a couple of extenuating circumstances. the 1st being his age. i don't think it's a,
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a major problem and compared to joe biden, it would be a 2nd term. so he's going into a 2nd term a rather than his 1st term as opposed to bind, but the trump agenda is already kind of a baked in to the republican party. so in that sense it wouldn't be i'd, i don't think there would be any surprises with a trump presidency in the 2nd term. i'm so i think it on that side, it's good. but then if you want to bring in new blood, it would most likely come via a vice president appointee on the ticket. so that right now looks like it would be . rhonda santas now would be an easy handover for the republican party after trump would finish a 2nd term. and mike pompei was going to run for president in the republican primary. ted cruz. i'm sure marco rubio and ran. paul tom cotton will also be in there as well, but there's such a polar, i swing right now. it swung so far into one direction in just the 1st year, the biden ministration. and you'll see the mid terms bear bear outs,
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a result probably in favor of the republicans in the house and senate. so it is going to be a shift in politics. the question is, is that shift going to want to continue with donald trump or to bring in somebody younger and more dynamic? perhaps it has maybe a longer tail future and politics. we shall see, but it looks like to me, it looks like he is going to run, so will. but who knows what will happen between on i'm sure, on this program will revisit that issue a number of times. let's keep with political personalities here. how many viewers asked the question, a, who's more of a failure, joe biden, or boris johnson? question to you, glen? oh, well, it's difficult to compare the 2 liter. so i guess there are the ruling. they're different, but they treat it when they do have a lot in common, their failures, but that's a, that's enough. going to go to thank god i had meeting my mouth. well, i mean time to say joe biden,
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simply because he has some more challenging task ahead. i mean, the like commission before the us really have to adopt from this unit color arrow to, to the multiple order which is already here, which is having immense difficulties in terms of doing. and furthermore, the u. s. appears have been a much greater challenges in terms of financial and economic crisis. the country is moving into so the u. s. needs a lot of the hassle of painful reforms. it needs to carry through to restore fiscal responsibility. however, it do with a less room for maneuver because it also has this global empire it's carrying on his shoulder. so a sort of less see or ability to maneuver who to, to restore a lot of this. so thanks a lot of this week. so i think you're failing subdomain has been a more yet they had better mental while the feelings and well
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will the feelings all the burst johnson house las vegas. and furthermore, one could also point out what we just discussed, that you society so profoundly divided again by them. you can also see that he, i would, are he failed of his ass. i mean the router are assuming unity. from the beginning it became obvious that unity would require the other side. so the republicans to repentance align themselves behind is divisive policies. so again, this is the problem with the political position is deemed to be an emmy, a soccer lane, more room for compromised. and so i think that these are all key problems and also he didn't actually do any of this for subject as either he was gonna really go back to the nuclear deal with iran gas bomb bachelor's gonna correlations with china as much follow the trump calls if there as well. and then also i yeah, russia isn't. i've been able to improve men of the relationship with that
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relationship either. so i think, yeah, yeah, across the board he said, this is his down arrow patrick. same thing, i say now let's go brand in our budget, which ones were us? go ahead. this is a really difficult question to answer, but it's actually quite a profound question because there is, there is a kind of an answer in there. these are both, these were both gimmick leaders. they both effectively ran on a gimmick. joe biden ran on. i'm any bun, but donald trump and managed to garner a quite a few of votes just on that basis. and arguably, that would have been his a margin, albeit slim considering the other extenuating electoral challenges and so forth. but boys, johnson ran on the gimmick of braxton and a lot of people wouldn't realize that just months before the referendum in 2016 boris johnson was a committed euro file. he had been his whole career and all the sudden, p. p came, mister breck said, it was a bit of a marketing sensation, politically. so at that,
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that's how he got his mandate. and right now the people, the remain are, is, are very disenchanted with or it's johnston, it really has to do with the kind of draconian policies around cov ed and around vax vaccine mandates and so forth. he's really just basically hemorrhaged a lot of the support he had and the miracle of getting the northern working class to vote for a tory a leader. and he had trounced in with this massive mandate. that's all but gone now . so in a way that they're both similar in that they both ran on a gimmick and in some ways a well, especially biden, he, it was already a failure before he was even sworn until office because of the circumstances in which he was elected on many different levels and boys, johnson again that so it's basically he spent his political capital now. so,
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but over i would say, um, i would say on some level boards, johnson is, is a bigger of failure because of this sort of paper mandate that's now been shredded . yeah. yeah. i don't think either one of them have much of a future her is. go to our next question here, viewers, and go to glen here is mich, crown capable of leading the e you with the departure of frau merkel go ahead. i would say no. i can definitely see why he believes he can take over leadership. because, you know, in germany it's running into some economic difficulties now. and it's all political problems with the partial mckeyan. i can also has certain ideas in terms of, you know, creating the army, which would make france obvious leader with him to eat by having him or militarized to use her. however, the problem is always that my comments to be a leader, but nobody really wants to follow it. so i think that is policy got more focused on
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the french leadership within the u. s. coast or clear missions or how the u as a whole can regain its relevance in the world. so every couple of not seeing any great ideas or at least a great and is that able to push forward in terms of establishing greater technological sovereignty and competitiveness within the you are also a foreign policy. i mean, he's been making suggestions. perhaps the you should start to push things up with russia about is never able to move anywhere. and again, i think this is the maimed. difficult it. i mean, probably most, he's not able to give any clear benefits for, for the, you only the last case. now with this northern, it was north stream to, for example, it the allowing, well, do you assess all as europeans to, to obstruct that is pipeline, simply convincing the russians that they should chip their gas to asia. so as a consequence, your industry will not be competitive against stations at the future, so you don't,
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you don't have any, i don't see him being able to make the relevant. and by doing what's needed to be done. so i don't, i don't see how about and again, there's a lack of alternatives at this point. yeah, that's a, they a you did. does that all the time? no alternative. and i think that's by design. fortunately, patrick, your thoughts here because micro, there's actually, and i've never been a big fan of the, the, the french president he has matured in office. he is, he's a lot more articulate and, and willing to take some chances here and place these up for reelection in the spring here. so, i mean, maybe it's not the right question. is france able to do it instead of micro and i don't know what are your thoughts a just looking at the internal domestic political situation in france up. that's going, it looks like a tall order for a lot of reasons. the french at movement in france is also very strong, arguably
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a strong or stronger than any other european country. so there is a lot of disenchantment with brussels. not only that, i would say his popularity. now you have not just disapproval you probably have or by any one's estimation upwards of 40 percent of the french public that strongly dislike a manual micron because of the recent policies. and again, it goes back to basic freedom, liberty, fraternity galaxy. there's a lot of french citizens that do not believe that micron holds those essential, repub, french republican values. that's how disconnected he is with a large part and important part segments of the french population. so if you don't have the support at home, one says how can you lead the european union? where's angela merkel didn't have that level of disdain in germany for her during her tenure at the time. so i think that's a difficult one for manual macro,
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and he was elected as a technocrat. he is a goldman sachs type candidate. he's a mark, mario, a young mario druggie, or mario monte type that saw what the people who backed him, they envisioned, and he would play that role. so we'll see, i, but i don't see him in terms of populism. having the sort of appeal any more than he barely got elected on the 1st round. i think he's gonna run into problems. he might squeak by in the next election, but he doesn't have the mandate. i think that's required to say that he's really going to be a strong leader for your. well it's, it's finish up on macro at a gland. i mean, it's really interesting is that he's having to have to grapple with his re election is to appeal to the populace. i mean, it's really quite amazing that, damn, this is, that's going to make that, that's the tiebreaker in all of this here. the left is completely collapse and now it's who is going to be able to appeal to the populace. right. and yeah, micron wasn't designed to do that kind of thing. that your thoughts right before we end the program, go ahead one. well, i agree,
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i think the french have lost some on their appetites for the you. so for him to position themselves as the champion of that, you are the same time winning over the french population. it would require a lot of a paradox to call stanzas and a lot of dishonesty. and i think you the french up to that a small so i yeah i so i don't think i don't see it happening. i think you would even have a are i'm struggling to remain the leader of france, which putting the leader that you i mean making it much more difficult. yeah. well, i mean, we have a whole lot more to talk about in the new year gentlemen. i wish you bolt a happy new year. that's all the time we have many thanks them i guess in oslo in plymouth. thanks. our viewers were watching us here at r t c. and next time, remember crust that rules ah
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