ah ah, russia rings in the new year, 2022. moscow is the feel of the country's most notable display with the capitals landmarks in red square, spectacularly illuminated by fireworks. while much of the rest of the world has already brought in 2022 with a bag, it's more of a fizzle in germany, where the public are banned from buying fireworks for a 2nd street year. and a very warm greeting from the international space station as astronaut. celebrate new year, 16 times as the orbit the earth. lucio. hi dear franz from the international space station numbers. your la la malone were wishing you a new year. 2022 of good health and strength, prosperity and new achievements. happy new year. that does it for me as well

from myself and mike in the gallery. well, happy new year to all of you out there. michael and my colleague, collin bray, will be here in about an hour's time with the full of fresh look produced and happy 2022. a with hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered? i'm peter lavelle with 2021 rapidly coming to an end to this time for some reflection. what will we remember about this year? how did our lives change? also? we look forward to the new year. what does 2022 have in store for us? will we be living in interesting times with

ross talking 2021, joined by my guest, georgie. for in bristol, she is deputy leader of the workers party of britain, as well as the author of the drive to war against russia in china. and in paris we cross the john laughlin, he's a university lecturer in history and political philosophy or across soc rules and effect. that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate, john, let me go to you 1st and in paris, i'm how did the neo liberal project neo liberalism and is as an ideology fair in 2021. because i would say it did very, very poorly as it should because it's an ideology that is collapsing all around is in every facet, every facet. it touches go ahead, john. while i thing 2021 was the year in which the well deletes. but i'm not sure that i would call them the liberal consolidated, the grip on power. i'm thinking of course of the,

the beginning of the year when trump was evicted from the white house and replaced by jo biking, who is an expression of perfect expression of those leads and of their grip on tower. but if i question the use of the word near, near liberal, which i don't think does apply to them, because i don't think they are liberal anymore in any sense. they're not near liberal or liberal. and they are instead a marxist. so capitalist or what i mean by that is that there is a and again this was exemplified at the beginning of the year in january, by the now 2nd appearance of teaching ping at the davos swelled economic forum. he originally appeared in 2017 when trump was elected. this year he appeared again albeit virtually, and he was welcomed then as before, by couch bob, the head of that forum who again is a very emblematic figure for these well business cities. and shrub said to him, you have shown us mister president,

the principles which should guide us on our common path. and that phrase expresses this horrible convergence between totalitarian communism of the kind which exists in china, which as we know has a very strong capitalistic element. and western capitalism. and that i think is the way to characterize 2021. it's the, it's the end of animal farm. when the pigs and the farmers reconcile and get back together again over the heads of the animals. that's the world we're living in in 2021. okay, let's go to bristol, that's a very interesting take. i think there's a lot of different ways you could approach. i tried to go, i had you react about and, and of course, you know, we had still the original question to you. go ahead. oh, well, the thing that i've really noticed about this year is that, and capitalism, imperialism, you can call it nic neoliberalism. that to me, it's simply capitalism with the gloves off, you know, and what we call neoliberalism,

this era when capitalism imperialism has been taking its gloves off, is really the era of, after the collapse of the soviet union capitalism, the imperialists felt they had to put the gloves on to an extent they had to grant a lot of concessions to their workers because of the threat of socialism when they felt that threat recede. they got a huge shot in the arm economically, but also philosophically they fell, emboldened to just do what they wanted to do to act in accordance with the nature of their system. so i don't really talk about neoliberalism. i just talk about imperialism. and to me, this year has really exposed the total in humanity and irrationality of the imperialist system. when you have a system where the only rationale for doing anything is will it make a pot of money into a bigger pos of money. and the needs of human beings are nowhere in the equation. and then you have the anarchic nature of production, which is totally irrational. we end up with the situation we've seen this year, whereby we had vaccines produced and actually 1st produced in russia. if there was

any census in the world, the sputnik vaccine would have been distributed globally immediately and ended the pandemic. but that isn't what happened because there's this competition for, for profiteering out of the health crisis, which distorts all of the actions. our governments in the west take there, they're looking at this not as a, primarily a health issue, but an issue for business. how to make the most money for big business, for monopoly, and the monopolization of vaccines. you know, the fact that there is this now kind of politics of letting, letting it run run rampant. so there's more variance. so there's an ongoing need for vaccines, rather than getting over in touch with the fact that western countries won't recognize vaccines that don't come from one of the big monopolies. won't give out vaccines cheaply to people who need them, or hoarding them, or putting terrible conditions on to governments before they will let them buy

vaccines. oh, depriving countries of vaccines. you know, this really shows the true in humanity of a system that is runs across on, well, i think we have a lot actually a lot in common. i'm a little bit surprised here, john, i think also, i mean, i'm glad that the issue of covey in the vaccines was brought up here. i mean, not only, of course, from a, particularly in american perspective, i mean it's a huge amount of money that's being ah, ah drain from, from our working people. and at the same time, these locked downs and mandates are punishment enough. but john, it's also about expressions of power in being able to, in determining and get your way. i mean, for sure will. anyway, and it's legitimize through a health crisis here. and we all know, we all know that once you lose those rides, they never come back. they never come back. okay. until they come up with the next, you know, and i guess it's going to be the, the new green deal crisis. you know, climate, you know, then again war rights being denied here. it only goes in one direction and it seems

to me irrespective your political coloration, all round the world, you know, a little tyrants enjoyed. 2021. john. yeah, i mean, i agree with some of what the previous speakers said i, i am on the other hand, i think that's the imperialist. the specifically imperialist dimension is surely on the wayne at the moment, or the, the big event of 2021 is surely the retreat from afghanistan. that is the defeat of imperialism. of course, the mindset persists, but the fact is that the united states, the imperialist power, has been routed. now, just as the british empire was routed in the middle of the 19th century from that country. and instead of what i see, i mean, you know, you mentioned monopolies. well firstly, monopolies can't be in the plural by definition. and what we see is a terrible collusion between these big pharmaceutical companies. yes and states

and all in the name of internationalism. in other words, the, the, the, i don't want it to be rude, but the rather sort of primitive socialist analysis doesn't really work. because you have international ism, and very heavy, massive state involvement. it's the states that are buying the vaccines. it's the states that are forcing the vaccines on people, as peter says, at the cost of, at the terrible cost of personal liberty. there is a collusion between states and big business, which everyone can see. and that i'm afraid doesn't fit into a, a standard socialist analysis because in the socialist analysis normally would be the states that we're standing up to the no, to the big companies. in this case they are colluding and they're colluding in a way that is completely compatible with one world, a globalism one world. internationalism, because everyone's doing the same thing. and in particular, as i said in my 1st remarks, it's between the,

the so called capitalist west or the so called west and communist china. that's the collusion it, sir, between western states, a communist states and big business. and they are colluding to establish a world dictatorship. that's really the only way to describe it. j n, and bristle, you wanna respond to that because i think, i think, you know, one of the thing in you and i've had a conversation in the past one on one, when, remember, remember those days, ah, you know, we, we can go through the lexicon are we want here, but i, i see your point. i see john to go ahead and react with john just said, go ahead. so imperialism. and i would really recommend all of you is to go and read linens, but con imperialism because it's not what people commonly imagine. imperialism is the advanced most developed stage of capitalism. it said it said, world economic system is also known as monopoly capitalism. and yes, you're right, the state has become very powerful, but the state is a state of the monopolies. it acts on behalf of the monopolies. and that as soon as

you realize that you, you understand why it takes the decisions it takes in favor of big business constantly and against the interests of the massive people who it pretends to be acting on behalf of it acts on behalf of the monopolies. you know, i'm the committed earlier that, sorry that the speaker before said earlier that m r, you know, the, the way the state behaves is good as kind of socialist. but actually, if you read capital, if he read marks, he was pointing out a 150 years ago, that in the capitalist system, debt is nationalized i, it's paid for by the working class. profit is the privatized. it goes to the wealthy and that's exactly the same as we're seeing now just on a bigger and bigger and bigger scale. um and the battle we were talking about the, the battle for rights of working people seems to go one way peter. that's absolutely right. well, we have capitalism. the best the workers can do is fight incredibly hard to stand

still. and the 2nd, they're not fighting incredibly hard, they're going backwards. and even standing still means that more and more of the proportion of societies wealth is going to the rich to the owners of capital. and so even standing still in terms of a, a level of existence means becoming relatively poorer in terms of the amount of societies wealth that comes to the workers. and let's not forget that it's the workers who are producing that wealth. that's what i mean when i talk about the system being absolutely irrational as well as anti human m. you're talking about china. now there's a lot of confusion about china, but you already have to look at the way that china has managed that health crisis to see that he has absolutely put the people 1st. they have responded to kabbage as a health crisis and put the needs and the health of the people absolutely paramount in everything they've done as

a side effect. their economy has actually been better, but it done so on the basis of taking care of the needs of the people. yes, china has a huge market element to its economy now. and to that extent, it wants to be accepted as a mark economy in the, in the, in the world institutions, the opposed to govern it in, in any way that, that's possible. the world's market economy. i'm gonna jump in here. we have to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on 20212022 state without me. ah ah ah ah

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whoa at the new year. special kaiser? it board with the one and only gerald salenti, originator of the trends for jazz man, no stuff ah . welcome to cross stock where all things are considered. i'm peter developed reminder, we're discussing 20212022. ah . okay, we'll go back to john in paris. you know, one of the events of 2021 that i found really quite fascinating was this rather ridiculous democracy summit. the virtual one i think of everyone remembers here and you know, it all of this talk about a democracy. but for me, it was just, it was a very, very much an ideological show to data maintain, had gemini, because is the, it was presented as, you know, a confident western lead world. i with the,

with that we're back by their ideology, the course they don't call it near liberalism, but you know, they call it democracy, rule of law, all of this type of thing. but i actually thought it was more of a, a virtual presentation out of desperation. but they're losing at their losing control. okay. and they're trying to maintain a narrative here. and of course, you know, i mean, you know, everybody likes puppies. everybody likes democracy. i mean, you know, it's, it's one of the, it's ridiculous facade for me. and it was a ridiculous exercise, but it was actually, you know, the west trying to, you know, make, tell everyone, hey, we're still in control. we're still in control. don't worry. which of course is it is, is actually a demonstration of desperation. your thoughts, john? definitely i, it's important though, to say that this idea of having a lines of an, an alliance of democracies instead of the multilateral un system is a very old one. i can goes back 10 or 20 years and it was it reached,

i think it's peak under george w bush. right. and the neocons, but as 20 years ago now, and it is very much in decline. and that's why i mentioned the withdrawal from afghanistan in, in the 1st part of the show. and, you know, the fact is the americans were defeated. they have hundreds of military bases all over the world. they are quite clearly an empire. they have the biggest military budget i far and yet they were unable to defeat the taliban after 20 years. and that is a major geopolitical events. so yes, it was a sign of desperation, this democracy summit. it's an attempt to under, to undermine the multilateral nation based system of the united nations. and instead to give some kind of pre eminence to countries which self identify if i may use that word as democratic and the, the, the fact is that, again, oh, the show chip or i mentioned markson lennon marks a lot of what she says is,

is correct. in particular, of course, about the sucking out of capital out of ordinary people's pockets. but once again, that is being done by states who are printing money like crazy. and thereby inflating away people's savings for example, and, and, and their, and their salaries. and in the case of marks, marks predicted and wanted a world wide capitalist revolution, what he called the international bourgeois revolution. in order to bring about the dictatorship of the proletariat. on the world level, he was an internationalist. and yet it is internationalism, which is the greatest danger to liberty. and it isn't nationalism or not a political system based on nation states, which is the best defense of liberty. and that's exactly what we're seeing with the unraveling of the neoconservative project to create an alliance of democracies. the

idea was to elbow out other countries like russia and china, in the name of democracy, to elbow out the nation based united nation system. and instead to have a, a, germany, an ideological and political, and military had germany based around the united states. and that effort has been unraveling now for some years. and as i say the afghanistan did, butler is a symbolic, i would say end really up to that adventure and we are now, i think back in a multi polar world. and you know, it's a world in which force counts. and we're, you know, we can see what's happening in ukraine at the moment. force is what we'll decide. yes sir, that he'll a conflict at then as ever. and frankly, i'm, i'm pleased if people start to realize that that is the prime mover behind international relations. not nonsense about them of democracy, which in any case is pretty rich coming from these western countries who themselves

are installing a dictatorship and the name of the fight against cove it. now i am sure julian assign should have an opinion about the rule of law and democracy as he's sitting and riding in prison. okay, johnny, i mean when i'm, i'm glad john brought up a afghan assess because you know, i, it's a to strategic defeat but you know, when it was more than anything else and a much more cynical vial way, it was a business model that went broke. okay. i mean they, they, it, it, it sucked in so much money air cream honey with getting reds in, i mean that, that's why i personally think that's why i think a lot of people then leave when they had the chances that now they're, they're never going to leave, i mean, it has been go on for 20 to 20 years, and it's been such a great money maker for so many people involved in it. and then it all came crashing down to an end. so the speed that, that kind of project be the global hedge, a monic project of the us military is far, far from over. i mean, is john brought up, bobby ukraine is on the menu now. okay. these people don't give up here. i mean,

and that's the kind of thing that i, what i find really quite disturbing, and i tend to obviously side with john here is that, you know, you know, they're sideline in the united nations. they are pushing out people, major important countries in the world that play an important role in the world stage. but there's this vanish, they're not part of allowed to be communion in the church as it were. i mean, the big, these are with, this is a model that it will never cease until it's completely destroyed, or bankruptcy itself. go ahead and, and brussel in bristol, o. m o, listen to john, are talking about their defeat for imperialism. afghanistan, and is absolutely right. it's a world historic moment, and we have been watching for 20 or more years. the m and untrammelled aggression of the imperial estates in the u. s. are leading the charge and their desire to take back control of all the places in the world that had in some way resisted them. their domination and their total exploitation. and

subjugation. and the defeat in afghanistan is, is huge. you know, 20 years of money material and resources failed to subdue the afghan people. and it's interesting that he talked about, you know, china colluding with the u. s. because really, we're seeing the exact opposite, the primary targets of their iowa and the, and the aggression. oddly, usa, in the imperialist, are russia and china precisely because they don't submit. they stand up for themselves and for their people and for their own independence and for their own right to sovereignty and, and to, and to run their countries in the way that their people see fit. and um, china and russia and china in particular, when it comes to afghanistan. oh, offering many countries and it's one of the reasons they, they come in for so much higher from the usa, they offering people an alternative to the neo liberal,

dec trap and total subjugation model, imperialism authors. they share technology, they build infrastructure, they lend a very low rates. they help countries really lift themselves up for the benefit of their people and for the mutual trading benefit of all. and this is a threat to the ability of the usa to control the world. and that's why china is so much in the sites of the usa, the, the propaganda offensive takes many forms and m killer this democracy. some, it really has to be seen as a part of the propaganda offensive against china. it's part of the suffering up of the populations in the west for war against china and against russia, letting us feel that these people are bad. there are enemies. that's why they use words like to tell it's harry and, you know, and are constantly trying to tell us that genocides are happening, that the people who are under attack or aggressive, you know, china and russia doesn't ever go be on their board,

is they don't have vices all over the world. it's, it's the usa that surrounding china and surrounding russia with its aggressive basis. but we're being given this fairy tale that china is aggressive in russia is aggressive to soften us up for whoa, it will in it now that we're talking about both russia and china, john in you said in your last answer, you know, force besides things. unfortunately, i absolutely agree with you because that's where we stand right now. and i unfortunately believe in 2022, we're going to see a lot of force and it's going to be very, very ugly and jumping to absolutely right. i mean, if i would just rephrase, i mean, you know there's, it's always a purity test. that's why i mentioned this, this democracy, somebody there you have to be pure or your ear. you're not, um, you're, you're thrown away, you're thrown to the wolves. you're not allowed to have your own existence and we're, we're getting that. we're at that point right now. we're at the rubicon right now as we speak. go ahead, john. well, i think we may be at the rubicon. yes. but i'm actually relatively optimistic. of

course, i agree with joe t about the imperialism of the united states. i've been denouncing it for 20 years . of course, i agree that encircling russia and so on. however, if you look at the ukraine crisis, russia is accused of being about to invade ukraine. the west to said what the wester said it's not going to fight to save ukraine. it's going to put sanctions on russia. well, that's an admission of defeat. because if to morrow russia were to invade ukraine and get sanctions put on it, russia would be the overall winner of the painful the sanctions might be. the west has already raised the white flag. and as far as china is concerned, yes, there's a lot of rhetoric against china, but we have to see in 2022. how it pans out, you know, i said that the big thing for months, the litmus test would be the not stream to gas pipeline. well, it's been built ok. it's not in operation yet, but it's been built against in the teeth of american opposition. i suspect it will

probably go on the stream pretty soon. and the rhetoric against china, it's a little bit similar. we'll have to see, you know, is it all mouth and no trousers? because it comes against the background of many decades of collusion. ready with china, all right, of which again, joe biden is the, is the, is the emblematic expression. so we'll have to see, does it translate into anything? i suspect it may not translate into very much, i'm not convinced that there will be a war against china or russia, i think on the country. the west at the moment is on the back foot. and i think we maybe i'm being too optimistic, but we do see now a return to the multilateralism, which russia in particular has been asking for now for, for well over a decade. chelsea, i'll give you the last 25 seconds of the program. go right ahead. thanks,

jones upset you write a false is the ultimate decide. and so we should be very glad that the anti imperialist camp is strong enough to defend itself and fight back. we only need to look at the difference between what's happened to north korea and what i'm to libya to understand what happens when people who want to be independent, disarm themselves, now very to to tragic examples to think of at the same time here as we close out the are many thanks them i guess in paris and in bristol, and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r t. so you next time to remember cross talk roles. ah ah, you are things that have happened in the world are being done by people who had a great vision of how society can be better. but that great vision is typically the left hemisphere representation is not real. it doesn't take into account any of the

complexity of reality. the subtlety of how various and complex people are. it puts them into categories is this lot is bad. we'll get rid of them, you know, and change is an organic process, changes and evolution. and the opposition is not between the status and everything must stay the same and everything must be radically changed. a radical change is not the way that kills. mm ah, colorado became kind of a test bed for medical and then later recreational marijuana and it started with something so innocent. i was wanting to socialize. everybody does it? so i cannot and then it just keeps going and going and going. i'm just going to do it one. yeah. and then it's, i'm just going to try this one and then never do it again because they want my son

and i have to write on inside object. and you surround yourself with people who are encouraging you to do it not to stop. it felt like my life was over, jumped off balcony and died. mm. he knew he just couldn't stop. ah whoa, happy new year special kaiser report with the one and only gerald select a her it's nader of the trans forecast man know stuff. we spend every new years eve with giles to lead the if you will have us even if you want have us. we just like

hang outside his house and say, hey tara, let us let us then gerald, welcome to kaiser report. ah, thank you so much for having me. i admire both of you so much for all that you do. and the information that you give the people around the world. thank you so much for having that. we've lived through another year 2021, and we're heading into 2022. i suppose. we'll kind of look back on 2021 as we headed to 2022 with you. the biggest trend that you report on in the trends journal right now is of course, the c word which, you know, alternative media such as ourselves, are not allowed to mention anywhere on social media including you to where this is also broadcast or twitter. we kept mentioning the c word and even, you know, the fact that, that total economy, that the financial system, the monetary system, have been totally re engineered. we've been flooded with trillions upon trillions and trillions of dollars of new money to fix this see we're situation where and the

fact that we can't really talk about it here. let's talk.