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tribulations which inevitably group some extremes. i call myself a hopeful pessimist favorite. i mean it doesn't look good. but if you're rushing down please, my spirit will i like that? thank you for the compliment. i think i'm hopeful, in the sense that we never do really know what is coming next and times in history . when can be surprised by a sudden turn in the human spirit when required. but i do think we need such a turn know i'm modestly hopeful that there are enough people who see this problem is as important as it is. and what i want to do in this book is just give courage really, to people, to see the world in a different way, which i think intuitively they have an understanding. oh, that historically, as you pointed out in the mythologies around the world, people have intuitive the way in which their own minds where they've intuited that
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there is a bit that is very talkative and thinks it's very clever but doesn't know very much . and when that dominates the rest of one's wisdom, which is implicit and embodied, then travel starts to happen. and so i think people recognize that there is that problem and i'm giving people confidence to, to reject the very simplicity point of view that is being rammed down our throats by popular science and journalism that really we know that which is we don't, we know who that the world is appointed heap of fragments that have no meaning shape, beauty or complexity purpose. and we part of that mess and i reject this vision of humanity who we are and what the world is and how we connect. and i do that by rigorous examination of science of neurology and physics along with philosophy. when that you are often me, is that the lap thomas here,
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1st we presentation to present an app instead of a terrain traction instead of a body leaving. and it would be useful and rewarding at times, but too much of anything becomes unpleasant. and this is the point where both our individual and collective psyche demands a correction not just ask for a correction, but demands that we think your has our collective right hemisphere been so dormant. and so pack that when it's time tree has been irreverently invaded and misuse. a number of problems for the right hemisphere, if you like it, it's one that knows very much more and understands more and therefore sees a very complex picture. the left hemisphere doesn't really know very much, it just knows what to do to press the button to make things happen for it,
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right. time if it doesn't even have language and it has language, but it doesn't have speech for most of us are right. hemisphere count, speak, it all has to be passed through the left hemisphere is ability to put that into words language. and in doing so, it distorts and all the coaches that i've looked at, and the ancient wisdom coaches of east and west. there is an ancient awareness that language betrays, sees very deep and it's very useful everyday things, you know, can i have a cup of coffee? but when it's actually coming to the issues of what his love, what his time work, what is because most made of what do we mean when we talk of the sacred these things are incredibly difficult to express and it's much easier to we say it's money for road road, which means it's extremely easy to get away with rubbishing. all those things say,
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well, you know, they can, we don't really need to take them into account. we can't measure them, we can't see them. but actually they are the, the important things our lives center on. you also point out that the book that this is specialization here is enrolled out of all living beings, necessity to keep or focus on to you. why don't things that wants to eat and not be eaten, and when it comes to the issue of sustenance, you know, the basic conquerors or basic security of my police in the western world. that problem is solved, but it seems that the left hemisphere and after number not because you're right in many of your books, it's primarily be western problem. it's in a fact, let's say, the china realization, or the russians, or some of the south americans to much lesser expand people in the why. why do you think that is the historical differences in the history of ideas?
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but i think the reason is dominating in the west, and sadly you mentioned china, which from which we could have learned a lot. it's ancient traditions of wisdom, rich and important. but now, alas, china is, is more pernicious lee, occidental then the west is because it's taking the worst part of the west and exaggerated it kind of how many layers, you know, they, they mean one thing and be totally different when they're, they're all correct or complex and we are in the west as well. say there are many people who low the culture has this repay, she's quality, they themselves share that sense of the need to destroy and sees. but i think it has become an addiction really in the west. the sense of power is highly addictive. the left hemisphere,
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if you like to put it very simply, it's rational dentures control. it's, it's reason for existence is that it helps us manipulate and control and it's anxious when it's not in control and doesn't have the power. it becomes paranoid, and that's the world that we've entered into. it's a very one sided picture of you know, in my own psychological struggles in development. i came to think that some of my pleasant symptoms, persistent thoughts absolutely, and for so long precisely to allow the internal law to run it, making sure no change to crystallize, gather steam and sort of t hold more deeply. i wonder if that would also be applied to our collective psyche or western collective psyche is one of the reasons why, as i say, a difficult thing to predict the future because it's not as the left hemisphere things linea. when you go very far in one direction,
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you don't get further and further away from itself is it you get closer and closer to its opposite? which is why so often the outcomes of paradoxical society strives to freedom and becomes a tyranny. in russia, you have seen this a, in fact, we can't predict what will happen when a certain thing changes as in that expression from the, the secret of the go than flow. so it is turned around. well that, that moment when the sword is turned around may come at a moment of crisis. i think someone says, the worse it gets, the better it gets, it, meaning that the more things build up to something that really is present and destructive. the more a drive to change it. and in this regard, i guess we can see the proliferation of the so called ease of despair in the west.
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anxiety is alixia depression, not necessarily as something that is going to do in the western civilization, but actually the signs of recovery and feeling too calm because every symptom, as i'm sure you would agree contains and that i know of something that is my stupor and something that calls for being reveal yes, and it also workspace way. so the things that we think are marvelous, have a dock side and denying the dock side. you mentioned, you know, who's a keen on this idea and he meant he had a concept in antonia romeo, which meant to by going in one direction, you achieve the opposite. so getting away from a linear idea of reality towards one in which opposites tend to go together is a kind of important insight. i think one that we could explore at length, but we don't have time to store it. well, unfortunately,
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we don't have time and we'll go more than that. we have to take a very short break right now. a regular is be, will be back in just a few moments. ah, a reflection of reality in the world transformed what will make you feel safe, isolation, whole community? are you going the right way or are you being that some with what is true? what is faith? in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths will remain in the
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ah welcome back and forth with miguel chris reeder's psychiatrists and also in matter with dr. my gilchrist, essential idea of your book as a time that is the way we dispose our consciousness towards the world pre determines what we find me. if we look out for some concrete, explicit things, we may find them, but you may also lose something more important in the process. how do you personally train your mind to stay open? i'm conscious of those things. do you have any bite? practically the practical advice becomes rather been no,
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but i think the things that one can do, practices of meditation positions, mindfulness are all about attending to things in an open way rather than already conceiving them as part of this mental map. the representation you describe is already the left hemisphere has we need to re encounter the, the presence, the reality of the whatever it is is in front of us. and that is actually a spiritual go. and it's so much great art and many spirits that i know have talks about the way in which the imagination key is a way that they look familiarity to bring something forward for the 1st time and spending more time in nature. because nature speaks to us in many, many ways emotionally, to all our senses in an embodied way. it shows us how complex the world is in our minds. we can think we've worked it all out. it's simple. but we see these
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infinitely complex living systems that speak to us. this changes the way in which we think about the world to an emphasis on all those things, spending time in nature, spending time with the arts, with music. she was reading, imaginative work philosophy. i think to me and meditation, what i like about your book is that you approach the question of the sacred the ultimate arrived common issue with the direct mess. granularity of the last time of year. and i think you did mr. 5 domestic to big span. the current knowledge allows and i would even say it's not a compliment. i really think that you do the same thing that talk crowd if used to do, you know, engaging both judith with his diamond in a,
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in a very rational and ritual way, marrying those 2 things. and i wonder if that's what our time our is ultimately about redefining the they create an established a new relationship with it's perhaps a more interactive relationship rather than serve and or suppressive as before. but i think is an enormously important part of what it means to be a human being. and just because it's very difficult to articulation to argue about, doesn't mean it's negative law doesn't exist. that's a huge mistake. left, obviously mistake. but there are many things that go beyond language and beyond reason, and they're all the really important things. that's why we have poetry and that's why we have music. and that is indeed why we have religious rituals and narratives and miss because they embody things lies just because they have not uncomfortable with in everyday science, they go beyond into,
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around which greater sciences and graces. rationality is lies beyond their scope. that's not to disrespect science and reason i'm a scientist and i think that the world needs more good science and good reason. but we also need to engage our intuition and imagination. so i see these things is absolutely not in conflict. is the left hemisphere. in fact, that has set these things up as opposites. whereas in fact, if you pay attention to the way in which great scientific and mathematical discoveries were made, you can see that they involve insight, intuition, and imagination. such are the greatest artists. so i want to see the bringing together these things i, i'm glad that you pointed out that in, in trying to draw attention because me of a lot of time and effort, i can tell you to write about the sacred because whatever you say is somehow wrong you know, i understand this is a prime or they'll drive, i mean, this is something that you cannot, cannot be clashed, but it's also
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a fine line to walk people or humans in indirect rather than god. that's a rather shaky ground. i mean, it can get you into the realm with a project rel, very quickly have that ever been an issue for you? how to stay human safely in the presence of those cry. more forces of being human is to deal with these primordial forces. that's my point. and it is sort of a question over you can avoid it. and the gift of this book was something that took me over. it was like socrates described having a dime mon, a demon that directed him. and i felt very strongly in writing this book. when i tried to do is to present a whole new philosophy of life and of the cosmos, what things are and how we can know them. because i think the deadly need of this.
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if we don't have some vision of who we are, what the world is and how we relate where last. so there was a very strong drive to do this. and i knew it would be a colossal task and take me a very long time and it nearly killed me writing it. but i survived. it's that and people are responding warmly to it. so i'm very pleased about this. you mentioned that when you were writing it, you had an experience similar to the one the credit had with his dominant actually . you know, i tend to believe that we see a lot of people these days who have a direct immediate relationship with their countries. and i found some support for him to work and were that you're a union analyst who rode into work and the christian architects. but starting from the mid 1500, be the number of such
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a direct experience as have started to enhance the why could more and more people for example be something that they saw particular say apostle paul experience is now becoming available to you more and more people you see that the support for that in your work, and if so, what do you think it would mean for humanity? i understand there is no definitive answer there, but some of your integrations maybe, gosh, i know, i'm not sure i know about this increase in these experiences. what i do know is that if you ask people in this country, do you believe in god, in terms of belonging to religion and perhaps about 11 percent of the population say so. but if you asked and have you had any experience or something that convinces you that there is far more to this world than the materialist, reductionist account, 95 percent of people say so they've clearly see something and there are many experiences. i think what may give the impression that it's on the increase is
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actually the internet and the ability for people to to find other people who have these experiences and to talk about them in the past. perhaps that was more difficult. but i think that probably one of the, you know, it's a mixed blessing the internet. it has, it's very dark effects and it has some lighter effects. and one may be that it has brought fluid. this awareness that many people do have life changing experiences to which they say i can no longer believe that there is nothing to ryan in this world . i have experienced it. so i'm glad you mentioned the world wide web because your book, you use the experience, the image of the web as an illustration of how the right time of your approach is the world through the prism of relationships rather than the life of things that are being related to what's important them then ada, always things that are caught in it, but rather the intersection. that's what makes the whole structure. and think over
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the last couple of years we've seen dramatic proliferation of there is now structure starting with the internet, but also various social groups, even more integrated ways of doing science. you know, sizes are working together from all over the worlds and various project. there's lots of, for example, commerce in local communities on a global level. so this combination of the local and big mobile isn't that's also one of the indications of the collective right hemisphere or the right hand ways reasserting themselves. i can see that you could see it that way any, and you referred to some very positive aspects of this process. but there are other, the others that are very obvious. manifestations of the left hemisphere mindset. the virtualization, the abstraction from a deep context, the dis embodiments and the setting up of clues to
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bubbles in which people only hear reinforcements to their point of view. this is very typical of the left. it sees it seeks to hear only watch it already thinks it knows too. i think it can do like things it can, it can be used for good or ill. i think a lot of it is not very good, but it has its benefits. 5 person benefit from it because i live in a rather remote positive impression on an island that you know a long way from a library. but because of the internet, i can access learning journals at 2 o'clock in the morning. if i went to this is wonderful. i can certainly a resident or some of the dangers that your articulating question because a russian and we, the russians that chan to be very much a tune to this right hemisphere calling i, you know, all things mystical and you know,
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the end of history of golden age visions of birth as you know, perhaps from our history. sometimes it could lead you into very, very dark corners. when you hear divine callings and when you try to concrete ties them. if could get very dangerous, we talk about the radical transformation personality transformation in that happens to society as a whole. i would you welcome it? no, i think where you're pointing to is. and i think there's a greek saying that when god bills the church, the devil builds one right next door. and i think this is way in which the can the light, the good and the evil are very close to one another. and you need to see quite carefully the history of religion is full of people who thought that they were on the side of god, and we're doing evil things. so people can be mistaken. and i
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can relate this partly to see the differences, because in order to understand religion, you have to have a certain degree of humility before things that you may not understand, you need to be compassionate. you need to be flexible in need so hard to the opposite. so the hidden and everything you're saying. whereas to the left hemisphere, there is just a truth and it's in this book, we wrote it down. and now this is the truth. and if you don't believe this truth, you are bad and we are good and we are right and you are wrong. and all this is the opposite of the experience of any religion. and of course it's the opposite of christ. and this is this page of the great mystical traditions of the orient. i my so much. i also find that the last time i had this so was anxious
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relationship with time. if once everything can be done, not just in time but had a time. and when to try to hurry things up, that's when the trouble usually happens in it, not only with religion, let's say i'm in my country marxism leninism. i also try to be ahead of time and you know, that cost many millions of people that live with us. things that have happened in the world have been done by people who had a great vision of how society could be better. that great vision is typically the less hemisphere representation. it's not real, it doesn't take into account any of the complexity of reality. the subtlety, how various and complex people are put them into categories says this lot is bad. we'll get rid of them, you know, and change is an organic process. change is an evolution and the opposition is not between the status and everything must stay the same and everything must be radically change. radical change is not the way that that kills. if you take
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a plant and you want it to grow up to war, you don't pick it out to the ground and stick it up to will you get a dead plan? not going to achieve the end that you want. you train the plant to go and to thrive in a certain way. i would say a garden account make a plan even make a plant growth. who the god and i can do is either stand the plans and stop it from growing or give it the place in which it will strive. and that is what we need to be doing is not trying to make things happen according to our will. because we've got the idea, usually our idea will be harebrained, crazy idea, which will cause suffering and destruction. what we need to do is to be encouraging and giving space to things that we can see now good creative, compassionate, and let them grow and flourish. unfortunately,
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