perspective and another thing, just as a scholar was a citizen of european union, is a bit disturbing that united states and russia talked bilaterally over the heads. of course, not just ukraine, but also the european union. and i'm fully understand why president cogent wants to see he's now recognized again as a world leader and not 1010 years ago. and obama said he's a leader of regional power, but why he spied and doing this. and i think some people in germany online in the you are a little bit worried how a serious biotin takes european concerns in this, when, when he talks bilaterally to the residence on the american sort of perspective on ukraine wise. the such interest that has been such interest over the last few years by america in crank. and, well, i think there are, there are several business related interest strategic interests. and it's also, of course, that ukraine wanted to become a nato member in 2008. then president bush. erm supported this idea,

but it was then chancellor merkel and n french than french president asako see who said no. so i think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's mutual anthem, the philosophy is, of course, that's a country that you saw wants to join a security alliance can do so. and, and of course, there are, as you could see with the, for the son of the current president biden, hunter biden, being on the board of ukrainian energy company. they're also business interests. of course. is there a caveat that here martin in that country can join nato, but it shouldn't, it undermines the security of another country. well that, that's what i said. the. i think there won't be a compromise or of the west on the principle. but as we saw in 20 o 8 and since then ukraine is not, has not become a member of nato,

and it's not terribly close up becoming one in practice, you could sort of delay it almost internally to make an analogy, turkey is still seen officially as a potential member country of european union, but those, those talks have to be tracked out almost indefinitely. so i guess that's where i see the compromise that not giving on the, on the principle, but making it almost impossible or very unlikely that ukraine and ga will charge later. i think that's what a compromise could. i'm not sure whether this would satisfy russian demands for written security guarantees, though. okay, well it will be fascinating to see what see what comes out to be stokes. i believe it that was i talked to martin it a senior lecture in political science, the heidelberg center for american studies. thanks for coming on. thank you very much. okay, well let's go back to that press conference taking place in melbourne where an event, jock of it,

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the news the news was seen. okay, let's go back to our developing story in australia because the tennis number one novak joke of ich still faces uncertainty their events despite winning a court battle earlier today that challenge the cancellation of his visa for not being vaccinated against koby. however, the countries immigration minister says that he can still revise kit and the meantime a protest is flared up in melbourne in support of the serbian, i think he has arrived in australia supply yet destroyed in open. i'm police, i did use pepper spray to contain some of the demonstrates the

the the i will bring in danny armstrong again. he's been following all the events today taking place in melbourne, quite a few to go through. so let's start with the, the court case. joke of each one early this morning because it was received protesting downtown melbourne. we'll just take it back to how we got to this this point. now it came after a judge on monday in melbourne, said that the australian government had unfairly revoked nova jock, which is even now here, right in the country on wednesday. and since then he's been detained in

a melbourne detention center. they said that he didn't meet the requirements for medical exemption as it and since, and we have hard report that he has the not fed properly and sleep deprived the call after david today was made public in which he said that he had been questions. he had been upset and confused by the whole process. let's have a listen. they had the on extremely heavy. you still the legal system is functioning. it is evidence based. it is about justice and most importantly, not influenced by any politicians. correct? why? so you see that people who have come out in support of know about your career as many people in australia of serbian heritage. they seen this as a big win for freedom. and they said that no joke which was held on fairly,

as the judge had said today, they, the australian government had unfairly taken away his visa and said he had to leave the country. they gave him a choice between detention and deportation. well, that's not without its own difficulties. extremely, an immigration minister alex hawk has said that he does retain the right to revoke that means, despite any ruling that does rule out the ruling of the church today. on monday in melbourne, there was a 4 hour window that was reported that he had missed to you to, to exercise those powers. however, that doesn't come into effect as the australian authorities didn't re detain novak jock of each for questioning. now as regards jock of which he has said that he's been upset. i mean, despite the support these protesting people smashing glass, people being pepper sprayed just to show their support of him. you said that it's been an absolute nightmare that's been back up by a family of what we said in the press conference. he said he's been confused and

upset by the whole thing. the my agent and i had done all that was asked of us in making the application for entry into australia. i did not understand what was happening and i did not understand why he was considering canceling my visa. i was upset and confused. say as we see, this is not gone down well with australian government officials. i mean they think that novak chuck, which is christ coming into the country and flouting lockdown laws that have been observed by the whole of the country, especially in melbourne, australia. one of the most strict countries as regards co with regulations and government officials on the australian side to taken the fancy rules are rules, especially prime minister scott morrison. he said that he doesn't meet the requirements for medical exemption and therefore he's not really welcoming the country as that's the bottom line of the ruling. on the other side,

as serbian prime minister, alexander church has said that it's a bit of a which one he's supported joker, which throughout this whole situation is developing story that we have. of course, we know that joker, which is the king of the australian open, is when it 9 times a record for a male player the last 3 years he would love to break the grand slam record. of course he tied with the 20 grand slams with roger federer and raphael and the dow. but despite all that, despite they said this opportunity to create history down in australia, some of the australian government officials have really reacted quite strongly to this decision. yeah, and we should also say shouldn't weigh that, but this open tournament starts in less than a week's time. i mean, when we were speaking to his uncle earlier, he said he's been down to the tennis court today after he won his court case. can he really expect to defend this title after all, if you think, well, that's the thing. i mean, it's not only

a physical condition. of course this whole debate is about his physical condition, whether he's medically exempt from coven, 19 vaccination or not. but of course it will have a huge mental impact on him as well. of course he is a great champion, his family, he said in a press conference that they held in melbourne. this is the late fees victory for novak job creation australia course. there are parallels that can be drawn. this is a court battle that has been an a judge's decision and has of course been a play on his side and on the side of the politicians where they try to get it to go their way. but as we're looking at it now he's, i mean, his mother said, this is a poor boy from a poor country who's standing up for himself and these country. and this is a great victory for him. but as we're looking at it now, this could have huge ramifications on not only the physical states of novak chuck rich, one of the world's best stuff is of course with the sleep deprivation you're talking about and not being fed properly. of course, you know, the gluten intolerance, it could have huge ramifications for his success. the torment if he should play. on

the flip side though, he's supposed danny, i mean the pressure is off, isn't it? i mean, if he does finally get on that tennis, go to play in the 1st round match, i mean the negative, he's expecting him to do anything. are they off to this? well, you could say that, but you could also say that people of really looking forward to seeing novak jock of it. i mean this is his bread and butter is a torment. one of the greatest players of all time and other great plays in the history of the men sport and he's come here to defend his title is really strange in any sport that a defending champion wouldn't get the chance to defend that title. it's like a box or not being given the right to defend the title in the ring. he said he had everything in order to prove that medical exemption. he did everything in his power, he thought. but when he arrived at the border, they said no, no, this really is something that doesn't look like it's going away soon. we still to hear we've, we've heard what happened in the press conference and we're still to hear what will happen at the full out from that. yeah. okay. but i mean,

looking at some success in the face of the versity, i'm sure you remember the demo football would say soccer fans might remember albert, i've come to do it this year. i. so who knows, he could tell me what a story that would be. thank he done it, it was art, he's danny armstrong. now russia vitamin taken has expressed support for ally, cause extern saying, days of riots in the central asian republic had been fermented by terror, restrained abroad, with combat experience on the museum. even the ignition is little military, we are witnessing the aggression of international terrorism. where did they come from? these gangs of armed men who were trained abroad yet and clearly had experiencing fighting in global hotspots. system forces do not shy away from using cyberspace and social networks to recruit extremists and terrorists to create sleeper cells of incisions. we will not allow the situation in our homeland to be disturbed. we will not allow a so called cooler revolution to be carried out. wall towards the end of monday,

c s t o video conference russian president vladimir putin described the unrest and cas exten as an attempt by foreign forces to intervene in the domestic problems of cassock. stan and that it was neither the 1st attempt nor the last. he specifically mentioned criminals and international terrorists who were recruited using social media on line. now in terms of color revolutions, the russian president likely had in mind the kind of political violence we've seen across the post soviet world. in recent years, ukraine bella roost, georgia. these color revolutions all had in common the factor of a varying degree of foreign meddling. that's likely the reason why the cassock president, i express so much gratitude to the c s t o for a quick response to his call for help. he said that the kind of violence we're seeing throughout the country has gone far past the original upset with the governments lifting of the price controls on liquid petroleum gas. so turn the

economy ski of shipment bullets, socio economic and political demands were forgotten about in a halt phase unfolded with groups of all militants coming into action. the mango has become obvious to undermine the constitutional order, destroyed government institutions and sees power. oh, we're talking about an attempt to coo aside from the presence of international terrorists and can extend it seems like this is more of a region wide problem. we heard from the president of chicka, stan who said that islamic state militants are strengthening their possess in afghanistan. and that there's actually over 40 camps and over 6000 militants that are islamic terrorists surround the region of central asia. but like, like we were talking about, just in kaz, extend, the anti terrorist operation is winding down. seems like this situation is stabilizing, and c, s t o. peacekeepers will be returning home soon. don't quarter. the and i mean while a day of morning has been declared across cause extent is the authorities to say

that they have rounded up about 8000 paper on terrorism charges with a large number of those foreigners. the sweeping anti terrorism operation is still on the way and has extends commercial capital in largest city, l massey, which has borne the brunt of the violence. now, here are some pictures from the aftermath. writers have been meeting stores and torch and government buildings. many of them reportedly carrying firearms, dozens of people have been killed, including 16 police officers, and the work claims to that some of those were beheaded. cause ac officials also say that 3 children were killed by gunfire. security video from a shopping center obtained by our correspondent that does show 2 liters destroying glass counters and grabbing what they can overall damage in the countries estimated it more than $200000000.00 reporting from our mattie. his,

our senior correspondent, lord gasp. yes. it had been said to say that the peaceful protests and kazakhstan caused all that much economic damage. it, it was of the peaceful protests. it was the riots the mayhem and the looting afterwards. that of a scant days has caused more than $200000000.00 in damage to the country. mostly here in the city of amity and those are preliminary estimates. the real damage is expected to be much, much more. kazakhstan has said repeatedly that it believes this wasn't spontaneous, it was organized, looting with more systematically hitting shopping centers and businesses at the shopping center, c. c, t, v. cameras court, the may him in this shopping center and elsewhere. looters, of course, went for easiest pickings. first that his electronic shops, jewelry stores, as well as atm. this, for example, was a food shop, not a lot left aside from

a few broken gadgets. shelves were cleared in minnows. security could do nothing but watch and police were engaged in fatal fire fights with armed gangs elsewhere. and the looters went to town. there's very little doubt that this was plaid because the people that came here and did this brought the right equipment. it takes a lot to get into cash machines, but they manage to do it's taking the cash cassette. push this to the local bullshit. well, i don't want this to be happening. of course it was scary. we stayed home with almost these were not all people. we were all resting after the new year celebrations. we were some foreigners, were doing all this is we were waking up. people just went out to the square to peacefully protest and then left. and then it all erupt, it got there. i heard some kind of running around voices. so i looked out and most

likely they knocked out the doors of some shops. there are many electronic stores on the street level, and then they got into the car and left. there was no police. police was any civil velocity, won't they destroyed everything? people were in danger of being killed. it was scary. it's good that we live far away. it didn't reach us. everything was awful, that there is no street lighting yet. and people are not turning on the lights in their homes. the people are afraid. there were different people on the streets. at 1st, the protests were peaceful. he shouldn't have stubborn cosette. what can a pensioner say? i'm sitting at home, i'm afraid to go out. good. it's good that we have peacekeepers now. it was a terrifying time for civilians. many hid in their homes, turning off the lights to avoid attention as gags lay waste to the city of alma t. there was nothing they could do. no, when they could call for help. until the peacekeepers came. ah

ah ah ah ah, ah, ah, of the now secure airports of almighty evacuations are underway. russians and other nationals that being evacuated abroad charter flights and military cargo planes. what they went through can only be described as an ordeal for as my book, and yet it was scary. of course, there was no information or communication. i'll get back to paris. i have to explain their how bad the situation here is. they don't report it on the news. france is not organizing anything yet, but i do not think as they say in france than it is bad that the russians have arrived. this is assistance to the country, the situation,

and the citizens of russia. yes, more than that of my how i am more or less normal situation. thank god. we were waiting for these planes to evacuate us where stockton, what is, was it that was faced a crowd that was armed, lived in the hotel next to the square. we saw however, she was burning flash grenades were frown, so it was very scary. almost it's scary because i was born here and it hurt seeing all the events that happened and are happening. but everything seems to be getting better. of them is the hassle. socrates could have put down the rights on their own, but how long would that take? perhaps there would have been even more casualties. all in all about a 100 people are being evacuated on this one military flight. but altogether about a 1000 people have contacted the russian popular and asked to be evacuated out of our muddy alone, just just one city and they will be evacuated over about 10 or so flood. what

authorities have told us that they expect more people to contact the counselors at the request evacuation among them for a national now they have been at fis, protests and major cities across europe, over tightening koby restrictions. $5000.00 turned out in brussels on sunday, and dozens were arrested to belgium. health minister has gold for tougher rules to contain a recent spike in infections. well, several you nations witness to weekend of protests against faxing passports, which effectively bannon vaccinate. the paper from public places for a slayer has more and higher the restrictions are causing a rift in european decisive europe is tightening its grip over the and vax in a desperate attempt to could rising cove at weights here in germany to vax are no longer enough. to enter a ball restaurant, you now need an additional booster shot or proof of a negative pcr. while in france,

the bill is likely soon to be introduced. that will replace the current health pass with a so called vaccine pass. only those who recently recovered or who have been fully vaccinated will be able to enter public spaces no longer will a negative pcr or anti gen taste. suffice. the move prompted mess protests in france. 4 times the size they were last month and germany over the weekend. ah, ah, ah, the crowds in france chanted a reference to president microns recent controversial cummins, the unvaccinated. i really want them off and we'll carry on doing this to the end.

mcdonald, this whole vaccine pass stories completely stupid from a scientific point of view. and from a principle point of view, it is shameful. and the way micron spoke to the french insulted them, i will not reproduce his words because i do not speak like that isn't as efficient these people as citizens. i would like the president to be much more vindictive with thugs, than with these people who have just made a choice with this fiesta. this is the 1st time in my life that i have protested and demonstrate above all to defend our freedoms as french people as citizens of many. meanwhile, here in germany, the mainstream media brands, those who oppose the measures as covet, idiots and conspiracy theorists. many politicians are on board with making shots compulsory to. they've labeled the anti vax movement, a tiny minority with extremist views. we have amazon, we will not tolerate that. the tiny, reckless minority of extremists will impose their will on the whole of society. but

those speaking out against the restrictions have shopped back, people, blame the government and the media for polarizing the society that when i am here today because i see division in society and i see that is very bad. i see people or groups of people being excluded, we had this before and we must not have it again. that's why i am here as a clear sign that it must not be like this and that our fundamental rights continue to carry way. freedom of speech and also freedom, a free decision for these reasons. i am here today. oh, i think it's absolutely terrible what's going on here in this country at the moment i would have not dreamed it. i simply would never have imagined that something like this could ever occur in this country is stank at us and fall. i think it's just a public problem because i believe that vaccinated and unvaccinated people should not fight with each other. they should accept and respect each other and not take measures against each other tunes like only with no end to the restrictions in sight. it's likely the protests across europe will only grow in size. along with

the ango on both sides of the vaccination debate policy a r t. berlin. thanks thing with us. we're going to have a quick break. we're back cather with more news in 2 minutes. ah. while our officers are facing an increasingly dangerous environment, we are seeing a growing debate about so called warrior cops. the term that i've heard in the militarization of police. this is an amber vehicle we acquired through the 1033 program, very free program with the government program that funnels military property that is no longer use to local law enforcement with building an army over here. and i can't believe people aren't seeing those thing an agency all with again a feeling that hey, you have to deal with our practice. who are you putting in uniform beds is

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a there were protests to melbourne in support of many pennies. number one, novak jokers, which is just one, is called battle that challenge cancellation of his visa. but i was striding from the gratian minister, in 50, still has the power to cancel it. his family is just held a press conference in melbourne. oh, service. i've got him a pagan, says russia, and its allies would not allow a revolution backed by terrorist to say, address to sunny, to be military aligned to 15 members. has a staff who today's the we will not allow the situation in our homeland to be disturbed. we will not allow a so called cooler revolution to be carried out. for example, was opposed shop, not a lot left. the side of you grew couldn't gadget.