we responded version gulf war one and 57 years in surpassing of the gulf of tonkin resolution, which escalated doomed, washington mass killing for vietnam to allow in cambodia. the real history of these events is often missing from textbooks and history classes in nature, nations and new volume by retired us army officer major danny certian attempts to remedy all that by telling a true history of the united states. he joins me now who lawrence in kansas. danny, welcome to going under ground before we get to this monumental history of the united states. i mean, it's up there with the howard zinn arguably. and how you managed to teach this 2 us army soldiers at west point, which will get hunt mazing, the whole idea. your take, obviously, on us troops fleeing in the dead of night, from afghanistan, where you fought for the u. s. army. well, i think it's a tragedy for the afghan people, but it's been an ongoing. ah, okay. we just interrupted that program there. now because as promised, buchanan,

i crossed life to geneva, where the russian delegation is briefing the media after 1st round of this year. we talked with the united states, gerald h o m we she last night or the phone working day in geneva. we held talks. she's greed on by russian initiative, possibly on the security guarantees. go bill solution and the conversation was long . it was pretty. i think it was highly professional, was deep concrete and it was detailed b. s. but with that, without counterfeit crisis, to embellish thing voice, you can get used to avoid some pressing issue was really speech dinners, or, i mean, our impression was that the american side was, she said, you know, but that's a lot to, to get married li, to talk about russian suggestions. so they started this mostly hills deeply,

but it's that we had an issue over to them. introduce you cool. you said you mentioned logic with the content of our how those you move, we explained were junior, we've got a why she needed a legally binding document of nato non expansion will not know why i was human. which imperative. that is why we need to have a legal binding document to avoid se, employee, my, not a soul to weapons sit in on the next to the russia border that could try are in russia, wife. we rate a question, the nato was sure to having to renounce what g d as well from the exploration of the territory of the countries and for the nato, the most more the period of time is the video oper oper, the apt,

and i see and watch signed, rush need to act when we joined a few store and we have also, but it's usually in your record that without you moving along, these 3 me, me, him for him. chris sent shell probably knew him directions or the tracks, but you must speak them the work on now stakes you no matter how important this word might lead. awesome, it will be here. this future of negotiation is to force it came as no surprise was that from the american side, easiest in this period reknown statement by the shells from the us se administration. it's all the recent days and months live with, you know, the big things we heard about this is that she year she's complaints about amassing,

rush and true green along the borders with ukraine whiskers on the a pretty only was it so some threatening you, but it sounded or at least some warning would be needed. kelly, over at saddle, we explained to our counterparts that there were no plan or intentions to attack quote, unquote, ukraine. and we don't have it and we can't have it. you know, the voice trails to prepare the rooms and where it says it is being implemented inside our country with our partners. and there is no reason to be afraid of any escalation to be afraid of any s california scenario with regard today really to go to college should be that puts you much to control in the worlds in union. i mean, you got good, i think about control. you go to go up. a russian and american delegation

include it was compiled allegations and my ran shows you the room depends on the ministry and other ministries and the hartman, including those who work just last year. so far, much yeah, local, strategically stability within the form it on there at the formula on strategic stability. but ireland has been established for some time already and we got a day's events. and yesterday's with at the national ordinary meeting within paige, i've been so i have a personal security guarantees, least subject matter. smalley in some ask, i think, coincides with the work that is being done along the lines of the strategic ability dialect by at the move. what do you mean? you know? absolutely. that's why the time to do things. like for example,

what will follow after a she was she studious and she would then that is really key though smires, but he had some other about the she hadn't read what might hopping up, which we have to talk about. and the working groups, will they do that? they've been this issue at the bill of half or so we're creating a spart of that billing. you know, we talked about it, but it was not me. my on the agenda today, we concluded one and a half days dogs by stating the music and that that's why am i dared to see why jointly, something to the conclusions that the future taps and the prospects a folder working for you. but i will sounds good and we will make we do you guys are sure, but it's there yet. future meetings, you tell me vance of the upcoming days. you name lisa and if bent and brussel radio

on january 12, again we studied him. where for my to meet with the need to representative, she said over him as the expanded method the next day or what anyway, 13 and always see meeting use and our friends that we will have a better understanding. was there any reason any foundation to put jassy to leadership, to make those changes or any kind of information? so we had the meet, what's kind of the usually one way or we are talking about something else completely and that will help me so sadly, regretfully, of course, after that, the nate in the thought that em deemed to try to themselves eat nothing to reject our initial screen or if that happens then is the way i'm seeing. i needed to come look at it the angel minute. one to ask are the american side to pay most

attention, the possible risks of hide in the confrontation? we cannot underestimate, we have many of those business like sation in it's alex now i'm not worried with my boys teach you makes us more optimistic. you mean by now we're at the labs as i have already said, but the key issues are still pending to us and we do not use for us. there is understanding the american side of helping the harried here that i wish him. which of these matters you meant to be resolved in the key at that? make us happy. thank you for your attention. i'm ready to take your questions. so let's move around because i still want to help you set that up for 3 meeting. some collusion she meant to do, why 3 made this meeting nato russell's and always the meeting. so please re meetings and upper them. if you will interest with it,

you must read the numbers and what the next one we want kind of elaborate and we have a lot and we will do next because i think the only thing i would like to say we have come to geneva to avoid as much as that would have been tuition and we've got a lot of efforts to explain our american counterparts. wind playing with fire, which is not in their interest. well lady why the potential orange? absolutely. it's just the final questions on our side, about the police, you possibly need that? we can't get one machine like it was going beyond the recent case. we need reading go containers. mostly all, you'll see your map freaks of the framework of power relations over do made. so we try to equally formulate your reasoning as and politically at all levels and dimension in publicly and behind closed doors. and he talked about it when line and last year in the conference, our foreign minister talked about a number of

a visual weight along that defense mine and military lines. we were sending the signal held this land today, our defense ministry, delegations by the core in the bombing. we're very leant on these elements, trying to excell lane, our position, which is a yellow. that's why i'm in washington. your is a lot to think about and to analyze and to me and washington, and then the next day when legation will bring the allies from brussels and day after tomorrow, when our delegation starts working there along the same lines. the same tracking in these large, you're a native go, they will, how, if we, if, when you matter, it will be eager understanding what to pick up actually is going on and that we must not reach and unpack losing the, and we need the great, we'll need make

a tammy over, it's russia and you should be a little bit not making rush and not the other way around. so russia shouldn't modify its position. you regarding the key to h use as a new against the patient please would not happen. my then the matter will be considered 3rd, 3rd. and we will use our estimation of the to ation. taking all the background is new ration. trying to anticipate anything, not trying to run it had to help her selves in any way. but i would like to say, we wouldn't want that to help us when nato members dates lead by the us, they will make that mistake. and once again, they will be acting up by damaging the realm security and damaging and harming the security of entire continent of europe. channel one. so

washington officials with thought that russia was trying to see the bargain. how did you manage is convinced them not bargaining the we are talking about our country's being friends, are you seeing the question about iep, lamenting tactics about how to use? it's like hold us now, but it's mainly dan's on research stands, quest stamps these. these are case, i don't, we are not talking about talking about these 3 main practice. do it. and you had mentioned a number i'm time i'm we have on record and i americans, or we made it or enough for americans and they ended that time. you want to get back to me again, denise le matic practice at all for me on the refund to the draft documented that were not handed over to us. saying to nato, 1st of all,

pretty beaver drafted that as directly possible without any the push element on switching off the bone. i will do the double meaning double 100 and the public side in the room population couple of days after we've had them over. i don't know, mary, and we are because i believe that most of them we're trying to exert pressure on time as you can call it whatever you want. but the philosophy is and then you ma'am, was this law got to must all to put on the table in the direct sense of the word and an attempt to go to bed when we are seen. and we are doing exactly why in mama see obviously people i gave you the compare i me see balancing is all about finding compromise, reaching on per lines, lining a balance of interest, and it's still possible to balance in the move on our scale of priorities,

track that i've mentioned, they represent a man's and let's do that. we can not step back from domes, i'm convener we she feel bad and she did a balance of been transferred to everyone in the balance. i read that on one hand and the name on the other hand, it that we can be found even at that. i've had to thank you for continuing, but we would like to continue with them. one minute hold us. we want long as you serve is up there, strengthening security, and stability is, was the, the good. and i think so we have basis enough to reach an agreement here and there probably to go. so i think people who said that and you up by russia shaking dance region stamps, not say a right here, but people who said that store as russia leper, which you would use in you trying to make an ultimatums. the people are wrong when

we, when we do, and for example, a lot of the us say neither nation united western countries are doing like in the regard, we are suggesting to find an agreement and we are showing, well, how do we see it possible? we don't our understanding, but we will not threaten anyone with any consequences if this doesn't happen. but we're from the american side and the from this side of the european union, partially. we didn't, we the bond hearing about high prices. and so the talk about it in the tail about high prize the driver will have to pay if it does or does not do something they want. they want us to do, or they don't want to sit by the simply don't learn anything from history, from the experience. so the recent times, so in this kind of line is unacceptable, provides and they will not achieve any results. why not?

so that's an attempt, blackmail ultimatums up to you and your dating ultimate dumpling. you might that's an attempt to intimidate, i know that, and the other i've been sanctions or black mailing that molly store. they didn't have a lot of tools in the western diplomatic arsenal. they are losing a feel of finding an agreement, but that's the case where we'll do that. but just trying to restore it and we will try to teach them the skill. i think we will succeed. it's our became where there is some items on the rush and draft document that they say rejected even to discounts. so why were those items and what you agree upon? nice. did you agree upon it with your came as no surprise that the subject matter of non expansion of nato birds are words and now the wiring, legal binding documents in regard to this issue. and that was the way it who the re

summit me without a min, so that on this or should i use the yes we face really are injection from the in our little higher. and there are other aspects of the same kind in the same pain where we have divergent hughes. so, something that we need to the americans the same think is something unacceptable at the blow up, but, and that's van speak. that's empty. she deals a goes to shell, comes on, it goes to show me the greatness of manner and that's bad that i've done them the probably you, but we do not. yes, the make sure you steps corporate and see along these lines and we will fail to, to achieve agreement regarding the strategic stability and you already control who years and their us agreements. i don't think the situation is hope, little,

that's why it is. and secondly, i think it talk geneva state don't very useful because mainly count his mother's birth time. we managed to for talk story matters that are going use him up resource to see she thought, oh god, that on the we're somewhere in the air, but it seemed like they were behind the curtain. everyone understood things that you mark for that exam. and everyone pretended that you better leave these things alone, and i don't want to talk to me on that. i mean, but now we put a label on apple things. so we are calling for what it is and make our relations with the west to healthier. so we will keep on looking, going through how it will start on your, in the words, in the multi lateral form in opera. we have this talks in the bilateral forum at agreed you'll get when the russia in the us say, so we can get it. well,

i guess to the pharmacy professor you can reach, oh, are you going to need to give your maintenance? because yielding is the kill, me know how people are these dimensions. still the fact thomas dimensions are positive or negative. but if you just figure out what of the sounds like you off the resolve, the the fact that you just held what were the outcome was him and with our chance could was it was at 1st around or like who should go when you're on your last year that that's one of the many steps in and their next round and bandit might happen. thank you. and i spoke a lot of the complex up but also saying that these questions are very loose, complicated. so the are intertwined multi shod there and there are some things that

don't have anything to do with the subject matter. all that and i knew you knew was really hard to give you one single picture regarding all that you need no story because it will have a lot of shame, victor and the general backward general direction so far and solutions quite hard. not about the one main directly and we are moving along. we need to know what will happen is actually on the 12th of really long been in your 13th of january, but he may have a pretty sure they always see meeting us for this meeting. but they always have an idea idea how, which will be more than one. we can hear it. they're out of the news that this afternoon and are organizing the general all you're always the you might risk, it hasn't been dealing with these matters more decade and there is that man

elements in the so the bless you may have been talking about it that but ruminant congress will always war him on this day or the confirmation that the wrap up so that so well, come out and ask for the work along the lines. so russian need to release. you said you provide us with the meeting will be held 29000000 people by us. we can't even come up and we can make those florida even now if i'm not mistaken because we go to russell without the agenda. both parties endorsed, keeping preschools loom and dictate ability of how predictable business such work. so it can very not that i've seen need and we will need to assess if the, if the next for you shall be chums you cher. and for is prompt negative shipping. you know, in any case where you don't take too much time,

so we try and make it a process that will take months or that hears him and that he's going to be. and if you're in the meeting, really russia, america, i mean, we're that remain the same way over from the both bar. he is what miss, how she misses, how quick it happened in a month is we managed to draft an agreement that a seal it work in the st. mary's coordinates on the when it was properly scheduled door. i n f treaty. that was a record shine 1000 regarding post on the by the other regarding the start treaties . so and it was done in record time. so we need to expedite our efforts because we can too much time to work. and when the leadership of the russian federation moves in these words that we need near future, we respond to that. not just a matter of this, i think that's those words go by, you know, as you learn,

that was the task for our delegation that we need to achieve. hopefully we managed to explain into the american lead. i see. so in the nearest, in the upcoming day, if only yes in the near future, i think there will be clarity whether that area around there and when and then what form and how it will look like this both handled. we won wonderful spending. we won't be spending too much time in any case regarding or reach against agents that are being closely yes, the blinking campaign, secretary of the us blinking stated that at that you need to talk with you later found ation to restore the ins treaty. so how do you evaluate this statement? and did you manage to lay this foundation really during the day's talks? now you know, the set the grass at that well i guess, but your call is

a tough enough time. we emphasize when years you're in our talk, we knew that americans that would assist you could be an expansion of nato deployment of the offensive weapons next to our border, the sustain bringing back the need to the status low position that was imperative and must be done for in a legally binding ways we'd resource to me. and here you can see that in the system. there is also an element of non deploying the appendix a weapon in the drap documents that you have with me population that you can find as the minute the website is for me. so thorough. all these things should christy upset explained and described by as directly as possible directly to gab would be like so i don't see any predictions in what the rushing to iteration they're taking more because that i'm and what the american more part he was talking about as usual,

robert stone, 15 years later what to go, i don't see why it will raymond camera when will you know how it will be? word epic, you how it will be phrased and in our kids will be, is a component, an element of wine or a solution for this year is issues when you have the thing depends on the area because we can't only talk about where there is later and so forth, there are some the rima, magnesium, him talk. it's a nice thing separately because the matter depends on resolving bigger political matters. boom, asking the question in english, and several times that you or pounds would from the worst for me at their own security. if i don't show flexibility, that sounds to frankly, like a threat that can you tell us exactly what you meant by that we have seen earlier.

and i hope we will not see this again. that after every mistake, every miscalculation with respect to what should be done in europe, atlantic's security of countries to the west of russia i suffers. let me give you a couple of examples. you se level with role from i n f treaty under the pretext of fresh a material breach of this treaty created this situation were only due to the rational unilateral moratorium on deployment of such capabilities. there is no further deterioration in so far in the most dangerous area,

the most destabilizing area of strike weapons of shorter and intermediate reach. eve, now nato proceeds towards deployment of capabilities that are being developed very rapidly in the us and will possibly be introduced up somewhere in europe. it would require immediate response on the russian part. that is a decision to counter this thread through means at our discretion with will, beth will inevitably unavoidably damage security of the u. s. and its european allies. similarly on open skies, treat him for what purpose? the u. s. unilaterally withdrew from this treaty only not to allow russian crews to

over fly. the u. s. mainland, for the rest could be organized for and result. we have made several proposals to be sent over years. it ended with absence for the u. s. and these european allies to all fly a russian territory thus 80 percentage point over the whole coverage area of open skies is now out of reach for this arrangement, who one and to whose merit this happens. and this logic of measures and counter measures ease something that is so indispensable. and so natural for these very we are the world which we are talking on. so why not? we stop, why don't we freeze? why not to nato don't roll back to the positions as before? 997. those are very obvious and clear questions that we pose,

i think it would green for security of all nations involved and a sense of full security that is being created through introduction of new and additional and after new weapon systems into the syria, into this area. these false sensation will be replaced with a true and real rob in the implementation of the basic principle over in the visibility of security, which we favor and which we propagate. for. thank you. that with an english, my name is i need to know from as of chris, i wanted to ask you something about the meeting today. i wanted to know if this meeting has made to your expectations concerning the situation in ukraine, and he will come back and in general, how do you consider about those meetings here?

i'm coming how i can see the story, what, what value on those meetings. i'm hopeful that situation in ukraine. i will change into census primarily number one. the government and key if engage is in a meaningful manner. was people in done? yes. can lo, ganske as provided for in the main package, that was i remind everyone was formerly endorsed by the un security council resolution 22 o 2. i equally expect authorities in key if to sustain and observe ceasefire and their arrangement which was arrived at a few days before the new year and which didn't stand for long.