meeting i'm hopeful that situation in ukraine. i will change into census primarily number one, the government and key if engages in a meaningful manner. are with people in done yes. can lo, ganske as provided for in the main package. that was, i remind everyone was formerly endorsed by the un security council resolution 22 o 2. i equally expect authorities in key if to sustain and observe ceasefire the arrangement which was arrived at a few days before the new year and which didn't stand for long because of a new and add a new provocations on the part of ukrainian security forces. so

there are many more issues to counter including a, an unacceptable piece of legislation introduced into a the rather into the ukrainian puddle parliament. supreme rather on so called measures for a transitional period, which in our view amount to forceful reintegration of logan's can done esc region until the green with flag run blantan disregard 2 requirements set forth for key if in the means package. so if this is reversed, if russian and russian speaking population in ukraine gets

a sense of improvement in terms of access to media and education in russian to their ability to communicate with officials in that country are in russian. then ideally we would conclude the situation improves in absence of these. i'm afraid we only see deteriorate further deterioration of the situation in ukraine. a site has said that this would be a lot easier to do if i was sorry, i couldn't go to speaker leave allow us and said this would be a lot easier to negotiate. if russia showed some sign of de escalation on the border with ukraine, pulled back some troops or made some kind of a statement. is there any potential for you to do that to make the talk to the rest of this week better? i mean, if you have more than a 100000 troops, actually you can send some of the back. like if you also said that they have no plans to invade your grade. so surely there be no reason to move them back.

i read with interest. peter baker's piece and all bad in today's new york times where it is said that essentially it is said that a russia wants to trade in it's quote, unquote, threat against ukraine for more flexibility on the part of us on the west. at those talks. this is not the case because we have no intention to invade ukraine. ah, and thus there is nothing to trade with. ah, and secondly, we do not expect the west to show flexibility on some of these use

that we presented. we have a very firm position on central essential, indispensable requirements that i tried so hard to explain. ah, 2 american colleagues ah, on where we are. and so it is kind of wrong both ways it's, it's not the situation. we're a deal breaker, one way or another is in the vision. unfortunately, we have a great disparity in our principal, the approaches to these us and russia. in some ways, i have opposite views on what needs to be done and it doesn't help that on some of the issues that might be basis for future exchanges and hopefully also some progress. but from our perspective, it would only be possible,

provided that we find a way towards a solution on a legally binding security guarantees on no expansion feather, expansion of nato and to others. thanks very much. i'm also going to ask a question in english. sorry, i, you talked there about the fact that there seems to be no movement on certain subjects. some of the things we mean going into these talks was that the us said that they were potential threats of new sanctions against russia. that certain elements that russia has asked for, such as the fact that dad natal shouldn't allow ukraine to join in the teacher completely off the table. or we heard from wendy sherman again today, off your discussion, saying that you know, that is impossible. that cannot be taken off the table. how is that hampered your

discussions? and where do you move on from here? if there is no movement i i don't think you will expect me saying otherwise than to confirm that this is one of the areas where we have the v greatest difference of use with the u. s. a u. s. suggests that there is no way that russia or whoever else may have a c on those type of issues. but we underscore that for us it's absolutely mandatory for to make sure that you agree never, never, ever, becomes a member of nato. so we would favor a formal replacement eventually at the forthcoming madrid. summit of natal of the booker is formula of 2008 that says ukraine will become a member of nato,

with exactly the wording i mention now. you green and georgia will never ever become members of later. and that would be a welcome change to the better in the position of nato. we are fed up with a loose dog i, mrs. misinterpretation or what happened, that different forms of negotiations behind closed doors. we do not trust the other side, so to say we need iron clad waterproof bullet proof legally binding guarantees not assurances, not safeguards. guarantees with all the words shell must everything that should be put in this bowl. never, ever becoming

a member of nato. it's a matter of russia's national security, and it's an endless debate. how qualified are non qualified. the rates for countries to choose or change security arrangements, including freezers of alliance might be eats all were enough, enough, is enough. i spend several minutes to do the quoting from different documents before the us and by the way, explaining where we are on the budapest memorandum, why we believe is deadly wrong to make these freedom an absolute one. it's a limited, it's qualified situation now is so dangerous. and so i would say precarious that we can not afford any further delays in resolution

of this very fundamental question. as present, put in said on many occasions, we can not back pedal weak, can not go backwards. there is no further space for us to do. so please don't forget to introduce yourself before asking a question. come to mind and go from associated press. mr. minister have already made any progress today, talk to the women on dividing demands and guarantees of the security of a true mentioned wrong and still stand at the same point that we have been standing before on the central question on no expansion of me to my answer would be and would be a flat plane, no, no progress. and this is one of the major problems for us. and

i would say the rest depends to a great extent on what will happen further down the road on this exact, on this issue, we go this way, but i don't know asking your extension your job. i would like to clarify this matter of what will happen if nothing procedure is out there to guard keys with what media do you represent? new york times will use sad that you talked about the troops said the border with ukraine, that there is no ground for being afraid of fanny s. can latour a scenario in this regard to the same time you said that the west will make a mistake and it will damage the town security and security of an entire

european continent if it will, if they don't meet the demands your demand. so what does this men harm to the security, but has nothing to do with the troops at the border with ukraine? what is that? so many conversations about them will start going on. so these troops have nothing to do with what might happen. might just viola number them, but you the think is what we witness. and recent mom here is active exploration syrup and use the money to buy in the north atlantic treaty organization. but it's now showing, individually by certain states with member states, the organization of ukraine and of the other states in the vicinity of russia. by new parameters. my thumb

is not an issue with parameters said the corporation of between nato and ukraine, but it is more advanced than the work of some enough not the author native members . we clean the alliance love the if we talk about the food, the alfred to help resolve the matter is that these organizations and it is more dangerous to us because no for the state he had them. so she has to, she really guess the yard near physically from all points of your courage is familiar. but let's start to talk about the number of slides than number of sheets, which you bet, and through ukrainian ports. the number after sizes that are being done by number of the nato members stayed within ukrainian quarters. flights of plaintiff all kinds of including lumber plains, with the fucker, drilled to try to crimea with midsize stay. and this is barbara plains, the fly. 15 kilometers from the rushing water and the slide on the plains above

me. pro in kia, which is the moderate ball russian seed is and so on and so forth. so all these together and leaves us with no other choice to strengthen which on our tracks are scientists within our borders. all nit thing got you and there are no limitations. there are no restrictions on the go before we've seen the conventional arms 3 d that expire that then the west has made a great error. they didn't ready by the way, but i stopped by everyone. they continue these exercises on stepping more on the same break every time it seems that they just finish it so i didn't know if you had them got do not get plantar from the 999 at the s and build up with some it always see the west decided to use the arms control mechanism to resolve or

political problems and so called frozen conflicts. took control of that. then it was clear that the west doesn't need arms control of them because now it's just it is up a maiden that who the western politics and the west did you. why do you need anything in the security for the most sense and the sense of security? and we will continue this extra scientists and drills within our partners. because nato takes care of their security. and we take care of our security and we do whatever we necessary as we speak to all our obligations in arms control, nonproliferation of pharma, even no matter what our opponents are saying, that's going to get a lot of people. it's been in the depth of spreading holmberg lesson, but i think we didn't really think sherman at the same time. there is

a breaking by miss sherman, but you can put them and likely to compare it with some of the things that you have sat in that she's saying. i mean, i go so you want me to come in myself. i can come and myself endlessly more than that was that was the corporate and i will have a number of questions if i may, and i will not ask them all together, but i will ask a question, i will get your answer and then how many questions do you have 1000003? did it normally go for tops? bud was very brief. cheap. okay, but then, but no more than 5 right here. but i have one question that about the us research, but about your brakes about iran open. so i'm just think all my cards open to you in front of you talk about the title given for those who continue to talk. we've got that. if you sat down with russia,

mr. actually, that's happened. it will happen. you to go fast or, and then said with that because i was you start treaty was testable and you manually to do it. and the mom not on chairman sad. go to find that conversation with you. she knew how to science a radio to talk for a week or 2 months or so. can you clarify that stuff? it all take a number of the month as a mom and it's in the band to reach her at boy art agreement. so we will be enough for you to talk about the things that you talked about today, or maybe only 4 weeks or 5 wait, it is blue. some levels of stress. can you ask the old euro by that for questions right away they get, but that is everything. but my colleagues try to ask you about the military response because she said russia covertly. and as you sat here with us, that is a shot you will to believe damaged the security of the usa and there is going

a lot live stored. when you said that at the same time you said that brush does not threaten anyone, americans are threatening hospital sanctions. given it was going to see here at the friends and became a threat. so americans are talking about sanctions or in the banking sector for those who currency. so until russia threatening to but they are doing it in more general terms, isn't that they are just saying about threatening to threat to security. all of you as a need to, can you speak about it in more detail? what exactly do you mean by the randy to hear it can be how russia can convince us and may do that. russia want attack your greens like that. and what is sherman's talked about today, because i said the russian responsibility is to prove that it is that they are not going to escalate the situation that term and said that it is russia's responsibility at the more that's the story is described as we are

a witnessing now, and especially folks, and you said sherman, that russia is not going to attack, how will you approve it? because you say there is no trap from you to the american. so americans don't trust russia either and questioned out around there were some rumors that there could be some agreements regarding the iranian nuclear program. so some sanctions can believe to the by the us from we ran can you with a confirmed that some progress has been made in this regard? they are but they know what process i will start from the last question to go. what are the talking in vienna earlyhood, so they are going to chance and we're seeing the chance achieve the job to find an agreement applying to. and what about the, what is, what do you present lucia within the framework? the address around of what happened before 6 rounds, before it may 20th the 20th, always at the policy,

the money and the june clinton. so all parties are demonstrating their willingness to find the solution to move it into the founding problems. the time does not deal, and it's for the iranian nuclear program, the private is so they are making progress within a shade. and that does not facilitate the, the job of negotiating. and at the same time. so here it is. you're at the mitsubishi and some so nobody me, there is a number of things to talk about to lifting certain sanctions through. don't put their solution which are hard to resolve because you know, even though the logic i'll be advanced because i would like to remind you it was in the us that uni laterally went from it was the president. so they withdrew from the j. c t o, so they should be the ones to make biological things and i think radians,

they have demands about but used to it will show up. they got the shoot. see there is tuition is improving group or if they go back to implementing gc get away, city was most cremeans. so along the way to the solution, there could be all kinds of mechanisms work and then the same as the ease by yet. and that is you will you agreement, dart dive and roamed the clear, ugly logic for every one step by step and reciprocity mechanism. so the same as now probably there could be a solution that will be solution we said use wishing me this to re accompanying the main thing. main goal. you put the teachers, keep it, and i would like to underscore that hypothetically or intermediate steps,

that's not a substitution. that's not an alternative. but really, all those numbers move in of my agreement that should be restored and fully skills dads, the russians, because i comes from the school day by misconduct, excel being diplomatically in fighting the direct contact with giving us an arrogance with the europeans, with the european policy agencies or guardian that is splaying the role of coordinator to deanna purpose even brought my body up to you, talk us and moving on to the next question. as for the proof that we have to provide me and it reminds me of that and for arnold schwartzenegger movie bush, you got the red square, a guy he was who was asking a criminal. the question was, what are your prove security? 4000 times we asked regarding a lot of things regarding a lot of matters,

but we ask americans to give us improves and we get silence and response or they were saying, you know what you're doing. we don't need to prove anything more than to play. i guess we can do the same is because i can, we could say 2 months. okay. you don't want to believe the word. yes. because you're a funeral, it's up to you from god do. but i would like to say that when in 2014, when the situation around don basket was escalated, wide heated back, then we'd still have open skies treaty or were missions open, sky missions, bob, these territories. and now everyone because he's keeping humble silences, those people are looking for more evidence, because back then they didn't find anything personal. but she knew about some dangerous mousing. got some troops said now they're m an absolute low street journal. or if you're a time, certain publishing and then your name. so pap star made noise specially but you

know, that's they didn't formation for a month for me. mason formation is at the very least. talk to them as upper use pitch awaited by the specialized agencies from the west to tried to fend this blames of his doubts. drilled it down in the media outlets to try to use these to these control vs to play with the not the attitude or and decide it. so i think we should need to come from each in the fact that there are no intense intentions. if you liked this cliche from the native documents, so there are no intention to attack the ukraine ship, so i'm none what machine, you know what the bus is to show you repeat se, ask or the meal, the 3 to respond to the security of the us and the european allies. now what are

you pretty and that we have the level of the president sat here and we read to read these constantly. we are talking about military technical responds each other near us when you are, is that no key or no grounds. now to talk about what systems and what amount and where exactly could be deployed. and it was pretty mobile because it will be seen immediately as a new threat from russia. we are trying to reach a result diplomatically. so why would we place the raniker similarly to our counterparts? so we're trying to make our marketing pull by talking about sure. counseling, or we can action and they do it intentionally or the are talking about non us. i give, not certifying the nor stream, and your agency is disseminating this news, which i know that you need ratings, but you are damaging, crushed, and economy. you know,

i don't want to damage the security bu flown at the end. is that the bloomberg? because that's the bloomberg specialization, actually. but what do you mean you more good and what might happen if we talk about very good times kids coming back to you when i don't think the right thing to talk about any deadline because i know you got sad about you go stations on the security guarantees, and i'm talking that coming back to iran because well that's the case where each one says something that until the end of january, and this is why do you say such, i mean because you are shooting your own and each one you the leg because he will create a full time deficit artificially we will not achieve anything. so having said that, and i would like to say we are not talking about a month or a week some we need or we respond that we need to the other side. so to get things

going, we need to achieve more than we have achieved in recent weeks from the ran, but there is no deadline. there are no restrictions, no time limit. we can post that and things we just need to make progress your week is possible. i do not know the media and it will depend on how you this week with the advanced. well, what will happen during this events you wanted to say about bloomberg. i have to replied to your m a new anything, lumber doesn't care about the ratings and the lumber curious about the information or the investors you're going to use. and when we talk about some information that is essential the from economy point of view. bloomberg world is a crisis broadcast, broadcast of russian and american. how do you know what investors in the process that again do you repeated they have holes among investors and of course because you know, the asterisk bloomberg road catholic, a american remote position,

american stance in the mainstream move wording. and then if you keep fragmented monday, because most crises and a rushing position when it's convenient or it can make things better. so no work for you. so to make things a little bit seen kerry, that's what bloomberg does by broadcasting these can position, interview going to come and speak, but i learned when the sherman is holding her breath thing. now, yes, i'm with the shadows and she talked about 2 priorities out of 3 of us not ready to discuss it if and not expansion of nato deployment of the military infrastructure in the eastern europe. she said, we are not ready to roll back with forces for the infrastructure from the r f for the 3rd year already about that you will come in strike weapons more. so she

said 3 could need some progress made in addition to that, you need to talk to you about reaching some agreements, saba, talking about the scope and intensity of military asking for sy, this is really about the transparency about the communication channels. so on one of 3 priorities that progress can be made can become a foundation, but it's not sufficient foundations to make russia satisfied with the partial security guarantees or is not enough. so if you to achieve helium, all 3 tracks to be guaranteed it will be a failure. hill and i was nice chairman, sad corresponds completely to what we heard from the american delegation during yesterday's. and today's conversation you should be sure to, once again, i would like to read it or not that the question of family should not expansion of nato and in legally binding good reform. and so it is a top priority in the direct process of the board actually. and the question of

them, is it more bad that we heard about other aspects for them? so i will leave it on the answer because we are focused on fees 1st priority at the club. but also i thought you were talking about russia bargaining for something and you months. so if we are not ready, you should be back to back the just when you way what we heard back then was worrying. now we didn't hear any think about the top priority for abilene. we've got that gist of the problem that we are facing. now we do, you can say it's still under another circumstance if we but him have been making progress long. they're all they're tracking our priority to was he use them shark of the then it's more than that, that wouldn't be in the us yet. that could have would shoot a slow, steady flight and the work you still at the fire was you my trying to explain. but

american dad, we look at these keeping in mind that there is no progress made regarding the top priority issue for us. you know, i see about below but toss agency. mr. cope. it's obvious that the outcome of today's talks will be reported to the president lambs. and we know we don't know yet millennium, we're letting it be considered a success or not to be no later, but will be there a phone conversation between the leaders because probably they need to discuss it. and he also said that russia was talking about the readiness willingness to continue delica for january 13 and michelle, do you think, what is the american stance? will they be ready to continue this dialogue or they will wait for russia to.