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author of hedge, a monic mimicry, korean popular culture of the 21st century. thank you so much, professor farrah, coming on the show to korea, arguably on show at the beginning of 2022 we've got came jargon, overseeing successful hypersonic miss aisles that can reach your new c, irvine. so there in about 25 minutes, who knows? at the same time we see o young to winning a golden globe for a squid game. what is behind the ag, global, cultural rise of south korea? well, you can probably sum it up as, as 2 things as, as korea, like north korea has had enormous success economically over the, you know, past for the case of 1st he was called a miracle on the river han that has given an impetus, right to turn yourself around, i'm in the global, i don't know, a village as popular culture. i think you know, power house as you put it. and then the other thing is,

democratization that took place in south korea on like north korea. obviously, that really took a form of, again, open societies, south korea, now our guarantees, you know, freedom speech, ah, that allows, obviously artistic output to be not restrained by supported even by the government . you know, so i, that has been taken a form of unprecedented cultural and it sounds you have now a witnessing in square game parasite, you know, keep up and as such. oh, bed attenuated by criticism is like a huge state subsidy state to power propaganda models. i mean, if the word had gemini comes from my the italian communist graham, she, her, what exactly is hedge a monic mimicry, the title of your book? well, i and try to conceptualize how, you know, i mean, yes,

there's been charge an accusation of korean. barbara korean cinema, korean drama to be largely, you know, parenting or actually copying out the western models. there's usually an accusation that there's nothing actually new under the sun when it comes to korean cultural products. and i try to re situated and say, listen, every time that there is a cultural, you know, kind them again, power us emerging is usually of form of mimicry that actually takes place. and then it has a way of, you know, elevating itself. and that's one of the reasons why you have mimicry as not, you know, certain of a secondary, i think, conceptualization, but i say is the most important criteria when it comes to cultural production. and how you actually get to obviously had demonic status. that one that actually takes

place in an ambivalent kind of a form of a germany is, is how i actually reposition i korean pod, popular culture within the global, you know, our village, albeit that we're going to get loads of complaints. as you criticize, cape op and sensation bands like a b t, as for lacking innovation in a global context. and you somehow put that down to these complex her ideas of where korea situates itself. i mean, you even see parallels between france fennel's, the richer to the earth and his a martinique versus france, korea versus japan. and of course, the horrific american british occupation what 20 percent of career killed by the korean war. so there are a couple of things. one korean colonial experiences a lot different uh from you know, the kind of

a colonial experience. the indians are, you know, a caribbeans had gone through under french or, you know, british, you know, colonial occupation before the war were to. that's one of the things that i want to stress, especially because i koreans had to learn japanese, right, in order to become legitimately elite during koreans colonial occupation that was by, you know, manage and control by japanese. however, when japan lost a war, i anymore were during the war 2 for better or for worse, korea is lost at least status not only you know, politically and economically are also culturally as well because they had now re learn, especially south koreans and north koreans. also, re learned another language, right. in the case of south koreans, english. right. because he was, it was now occupied by american military in the north of 30, at peril you had to, north korea, had to realer chinese and russians,

russian language in order to actual, legitimate themselves as, as elite. so whereas, you know, i'm for, indians didn't have to switch languages. so there was a big, kind of a, again, rupture in terms of continuity of colonial experience on mar, by koreans, ah, during the, during the middle of the 20th century and military are military. ok. i says military occupation is incredibly important. i mean, you say that the home of the popular culture can, i mean, we know that the allegedly, the use of sex workers increases wherever u. s. military forces are stationed. but unlike either no, in germany, we have military u. s. military on in britain, on bases here in britain. you say the african american experience rather than old japan, became the musical influence and out of which grew. now we happened and cable for cable, increasingly in falling rub. so i,

that's an important exposure. unlike again, frankfurt or oki now are, you know, which obviously for the past 75 years, you had american military bases. and south korea, american military presence was lot limit to just one region and that, or one city that's the big difference in terms of again south korean. again, exposure to american military of experience compared to japanese or german korean in korea, there are hundreds of military bases. it largely because of the korean war. i think that became very pervasive and ubiquitous. and in some way, yes, it was as you talk about and the sex workers and those things around america mosier basis, those are negative experiences. but what seems to me missing here is also some of the positive right experiences that careers have enjoy. that is one, you know,

1st person exposure to the african american culture which, which was fascinating for many koreans. and you had 3 generations starting from 1950 that really establish a true kind of form, a partnership between korean, a cultural, again, producers, an artist with a get hundreds of thousands of african american soldiers that came through korea. and so i emphasized that relationship as one of the buddy ah, blossoming, you know, religion that eventually made this way to keep up. get us. one of the things that i do stress convent not convenient though to lose the political folk experience, let alone the old japanese influenced her music for the authorities, the dictatorship as the 600000 african american soldiers from the united states changed the music scene convenient for the authorities not to i, you know, i don't

a progressive music of the kinds he, during the vietnam war in the united states. yeah. bearing the so, i mean, this was, this was kind of ironic for military dictators in south korea throughout, you know, seventy's and eighty's because, you know, they have to love americans. right. or the heart of the things that they love, americans turned out to be, you know, racialized, they couldn't, and in some way subversive kind of form. so you know, integration that day that you had to tolerate at some point. and so it was a kind of, again, mix and match kind of policy. there had to exercise when he come to american, again, cultural influence that began to dominate in the seventy's and eighty's. everybody love, you know, if you're actually, you know, somebody who was into music or into film and into again, like, popular culture. almost every korea love the american music for it was actually not only pleasurable, but he was also, you know, because the common culture movement in the $969.00 to somebody's. it was actually

subversive in some way. yeah. i went to the political version of the mimicry as it were, you know, in a moment i'll return to in a 2nd. but i should just quickly say the mimicry manifest itself, even in the coven response in south korea. yeah, this one of the minor points that i tried to make again, the book was written largely, you know, before cove, it took place and i try to make an argument in my for those i was actually writing during the midst of condemning i was really bored. and i was trying to think about ok, why is korean response so brilliant, you know, at the early stage of the banana, south korea model, you know, the response to the cove it was rated number one, you know, he was given the alias, a lot of actually for in media actually pointed out that south queens are doing really well. one reason was that they were able to adopt what was, you know, western technology that came through the p c r. and was able to translate and was

able to have a rapid response to the covey the outbreak using yes, western picnic western medicine technology well was able to incorporate it and make into practice that was made you know, as you probably know, why spread kind of testing that was made available to the general public in the very, very quickly. and there were also able to turn that practice into a global success because they met many how the testing company, or, you know, the makers manufacturers of these, you know, covey response test case became global. again, successful of pharmaceutical companies, a bit better that we've been met is on the are a bit better than your professor president joe biden. i think. hm, yeah. what about the fact that this version now, when it comes to popular culture has resulted in things like squid game and, and parasite, which have been seen in suddenly, in nato countries, as

a scathing critiques of late capitalism, of a kind of a kind of a, with a kind of violence not, not seen, you know, we have, we have lots of film directors and from the new will vog onwards in the nato countries criticizing late capitalism. this, this is a whole new dimension to the hatred of a, of a near liberalism. yeah, i mean, you have to understand a makers, a parasite and us with game, respectively of unit pompano. and, and one donna, are, these are, you know, the, the writer, directors of a, you know, a feature film, a person and you know, the stressful netflix drama swig game. their products of yes, you know, korean, what it, what we call a 386 generation who actually grew up with, you know, democratization movement when they were very young and car on campuses in the

eighty's ninety's. but also they ended up watching not heating american cinema, what really loving american cinema violent kind of wines that came out about in the new america in my movement, the 670 santa park or a martin scorsese. and these are the kind of films that they actually watched in love and said, i can turn this around right, making into our own try to a set it in again, unique korean. so to political kind of setting and see if i can actually incorporate them into, into, into a new drama. they want to add to pursue in their own storytelling. right? so in many ways, american embracing americans in amana heating it helped in a bet, a korean filmmaking and korean, you know, a drama production to reach a level that it was, again, unprecedented outside of western world. you know,

today, professor, i'll stop you there. all from the all sort of hedge, a monic mimic grey, korean popular culture, the 21st century after this, your break plus is chemical warfare being waged against communities of color and nato nations. we investigate environmental racism all this. i'm all coming up and bought 2 of going undergrad. ah, i think we'll find out about the skid accordingly. anybody's keith is going to push and push it. if i had a fever, there was somebody in somewhat of a few minutes a little bit 3. see what i still love the fact that we started at the paradox local me in your school. thank you. believe about what will be with you. hope all right, from what you what we believe. if you know what you just left that up, i know that you away. i like it, but feel for prosper pretty weaker. clear from

a brush up project. mr. indian bruise. join me every thursday on the alex simon, sure. but i'll be speaking to guess in the world of politics, sport, business, i'm show business. i'll see you then. ah, welcome back. i'm still here with professor kim kim, the author of hedge, a monic, mimic re korean popular culture of the 21st century. given the levels of subsidy to popular culture, the cape or bands and the you, you go through them. how is it that they get through? whereas in nato nations, you don't, i mean, often nerved, progressive filmmakers often say and band say they can't get the money to do what they're doing and, and, and they're

a similar state capture by private companies. when it comes to cal german, you, you go through a, talking about samsung, of course, and it's a closer relationship with government. of course, the united states, as apple and amazon. yeah. so you have to take that with the green song. i don't think again like the sub city kind of argument. listen, you know, all of these korean filmmakers, korean of popular music artist, they get paid by the government is, is somewhere not, you know, it's not a fabrication, but it's not the entire truth either. you know, yes, a governess miss a lot of money, especially in the form of again, education, also subsidizing in some ways in the, the art how theaters you know, just like i, i think, you know, many of the western world does also, you know, it actually models itself ok, when you 1st began they june era, you know, this was late 99. it went when south korea 1st started looking at you know,

culture as potentially up. you know, i don't know a cash cow. uh for, for, for the, for the country at, you know, 2025 years ago looked at the models of p, f. i, you know, brisk film institute. good to, you know, institute of germany and tried to say, listen, you know, there is, is subsidy models that are out there, you know, in the western world. how can we incorporate this and make it into a manifestation so that we can help this young art is in the long run, right? but largely, it is pure liberal capitalism. that is a play that allows you know, intense competition to be held. among the filmmakers among, you know, the young, a pop artist and gum ruin such to plays again and limited role, not, not the ways in which you actually tried to conceptualize, in his fullest, you know, kind of absolute terms in the context of what you say is the jer,

drastic parker, the theory of soft power, of culture, changing perceptions of countries. i'm just going to finish about them. you know, we have the queen's platinum jubilee here. and there announcing that b cost, i think you have bake off in the usa. mary barry who's been on this program is all big part of this. tell me about korean mac bang and what he uses him to say, hey, it is almost angry. he tell us what it is and how it arguably is emblematic of a kind of a late capitalist idea of consumerism and excess and, and symptomatic even the quality actually. yeah, i mean, mcclung is, i mean, is the literal translation is a lot, you know, live e cast, their petite, usually women, you know, eat enormous right? amount of food for about hour till a lot of people now, especially in korea and also we're why tend to eat alone. this is one of the

phenomena that i think you know is, is very important to, to, to understand about mock bomb. and they need, you know, companionship and to get it through again, social media and as well as you know, you to live brock as a mock one is in some way very pivotal in, in allowing that cyber form of companionship to emerge. you know, at a time when we're increasingly being alienated and you know, isolated especially don't condemn it. so those are the things that i think allowed us to sum up on to take place in the context of pre a 1st and then you know, ah, why spread really were a why today? yeah, yeah. and in the context or population decline over 21. professor union, him. thank you. welcome. ah,

now industry leaders around the world are meeting for the world future energy, some of the one of the world's highest per capita. greenhouse gas image is the you either today, conference will focused on breakthrough clean technologies and innovations. william lee ignoring the ongoing issue of environmental racism. joining me now from ontario and canada is a leading voice on the subject. go to ingrid waldron, hope chair in peace and health at mcmaster university. thank you so much for dr. waldron, for coming on. it's been quite a week in the past. well, quite a few days, jo biden's job reported environmental justice officials to see their martinez quit in the past few days. my suppose you'd say that environmental racism is part of environmental justice. what is environmental racism? festival? yes. and environmental racism are often used interchangeably, but they are very different environmental racism is actually the condition of the problem. it's the notion that government sites are located industrial polluters

disproportionately in indigenous communities, communities, and other racialized communities in north america. and you can find that around the world, environmental justice would be the tools and the resources that you need to identify . the more you address, if you have to talk about how it manifest until policy in canada and around the world. it, but it's different is a the way disproportionately people of color affected by karone of ours. well, yeah, i mean, that's one of the things that are on virus or we recognize that a problem. i was environmental reason why many people who always tend to be disproportionately impacted by somebody else as well as how it is people who are racial. i, i mean, i realize people are always high. so that's why looking at those intersections,

or race and social class, and in already we're talking about environmental racism or issues. we talk about a lot on going underground, you know, your prime minister just intruders. on the record, you're saying it is a fundamental economic responsibility for the prime minister of canada to help get our resources to global market. and at the same time, you've had some success with bill c, 230-2631 mil, c 230 is how that fits in with true to max of about the importance of for getting resources from your country to global work. it's, well, there are b, b why it's not a environmental racism bill that was a federal environmental racism bill and it was based on a 20 percent. i've been trying to get

a get it in 2020 and i was doing really well. it was approved that amendment was approved for reading and everything suggested that it was a happens. all my numbers don't die. so there is no longer, however, are you with a letter from i minister, late last year, and various asked bill c $230.00 that in that letter there is a late and the end of the crucial aspects of the bills that i received. a letter prioritizing the cleanup. i a look at environmental justice while bill

die. i. yeah, you spearheaded your film as a huge amount of success. i think people can see it on on netflix. does this bill have more power than say, lee new york city bill that was just going through in the u. s. which has talked about the importance of environmental cleanup and so forth. i mean, trans national companies, will they be fined for polluting areas of, of canada 1st nations areas. and so now i don't mean to be ready to go that. i mean it's taking so long to get this bill passed. i don't think i'm yes, i think right now i'm canadian nice and i think it's like

a canada. so i stand with that we have a many times i step by step for me and that was great. right. given how long a stunning to me i'm quite the in fan is to, to do and racism. i mean, they've agreed what to billions and billions of reform for us nations child welfare off to that terrible history in your country. but just give us a take on the level of cancer that you allege is disproportionately affecting people of color in canada that you directly link to multi national capital communities. i

was saying that they are close to some of these really they believe that there's a link between industry surrounding communities. you know, i range of different types of i don't sometimes the agenda, not agenda a around by over 50 petrochemical industry. or normally i raise the parents or reproductive answers in mortality, or for me, i know for me, but yes, very strongly that there's something going on because the community, so most of these petrochemical and these are so many of them are community. so something is going on a, they are worse than any other community on various, particularly with respect to answer a mental health. well, i think, you know,

is had done quite a bit. i think when we have that, i'm going to generate a real time and they haven't been addressed as well. what companies involved, obviously, did i, any link between the petrochemical industry and any of those phenomena? some might say that bringing those companies on to democratic control nationalization would have more impact democratic control. i just find the i better off because i know you've been treating about it. and even mainstream media covered the name bell hooks who died in the past month or so ago, mainstream media covered it. do you think? what do you think she would have thought of the way she was portrayed by so called mainstream corporate media? i, i think when i started my be quite a be, i don't know and because i'm doing that will be around black,

feminine. i know that somebody who is already highly respected. but what i like about her is that you did already see what other people know about her being or somebody who wasn't that effective or impacted by what i thought of her. so this is what i admire most about her. not only you know what she did around by feminist analysis, but this was a strong woman little, but what others think about her legacy? survive my work. i was my dream. good waldron. thank you. thank you ma'am. and that's over the show will be back on wednesday. when law is jeffrey epstein, prince andrew, associated in alleged most assets. elaine maxwell, are you to submit their motion for a new trial after she was found guilty of sex trafficking until then keep in touch . i will not social media and that is what you think enough is being done to tackle

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