tv Cross Talk RT January 18, 2022 8:30pm-9:01pm EST
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this ah ah ah hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things considered? i'm peter lavelle. the binding ministration is under water in just about every way . does this do too bad policies are bad messaging? maybe it's both. there's also an important question. yes, presidents come and go, but elite in special interests remain very powerful. are they a threat to democracy? i cross sucking elite control. i'm joined by my guess, helena, by ne ski in new york,
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she's a journalist and a commentator in fairfax. we have daniel mitchell. he is chairman at the center for freedom and prosperity and in gainesville, we cross richard bars. he is director of big data poll or across stock rules in effect. that means you can jump in any time you want. i always appreciate it. let me know to richard 1st in gainesville, you're the, you're the poll guy, you're the no numbers guy here across the board. it looks it. the biden administration is really in very big trouble here. what accounts for that in one year's time in one year and we have a, he's basically underwater in every respect. as i mentioned in my introduction, it give us the numbers. why you 1st richard? yeah, i think 1st i've been telling people this is the start of his administration. it was a bit of an impossible promise to keep. we have to keep this in mind that he was going to shut down the virus, not the economy. ah, you know, the idea that somehow changing the president was going to get a grip on a pandemic. and really, in the end, peter, when people started to realize that, you know, the virus was not going away. and that is really what gave biden. i know that he
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took a hit from that point on lot of people point to afghanistan, but really, that was just a follow up to van of follow up event to his dropping poll numbers. what really started that the advent of it all, was the realization that the pandemic that the promises made about the pandemic. we're not going to be fulfilled. so that's important to keep in mind. and i would also point out, democrats, everyone does this before midterm, but yeah, every republicans did it last time, which acts are form they are do, they just can't communicate the message, but that's not really the case. the message itself, the agenda itself is unpopular. so it really is a combination of things, but without a doubt you can it, you can almost overlap our trends with cove. it is approval on cove it with his overall approval and you can start to see all the other issues you never really got high high marks on but he did on cove at almost 60 percent in our polling. and once that started to crater, the, you know, his overall approval crated with it. okay,
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helen, the same question to you, because i post the question in my introduction, who is it? is that the policies or the messaging and richard is saying it's both. what say you go ahead helen? i would agree that it's both. i mean the problem was that most people who voted for bided were necessarily building provide they were going against trump. so, i mean, once, once the high new phase of that little affair is over, then you realize, okay, well i have this a career politician who's never done anything in the entire 50 years. he's been in washington. what would be expected to do something? now it's just people, people gradually woke up to the fact and yes, he made his whole campaign about coded and when he failed to deliver on that and it was call it. and it was this, the idea of unity in our democracy, quote unquote. and instead of like uniting america is basically just tried to stick one half of us against the other half in every way possible. whether it's through, whether people are in favor of mandatory vaccines or in favor, lockdown or masking all every little morsel of the,
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of the coby narrative has become a, basically, a mortal combat like fight to death under bite it. because if it's easier for him to be preoccupied with one another than to be staring at the white house wondering why are they doing anything? why are they letting this thing spiral out of control? why are they printing so much money? why is the dollar now worth approximately, like one on hundreds of one says it's, it's not going to get any better until people start holding people accountable and they won't be doing that while we're being divided and conquered. okay, well that you bring you bring up a very good point. let me go to richard in fairfax here. bite and came to the presidency, trying saying that he would be an uniter and you know, he has united everyone, almost everyone against him. how did that happen? rick, daniel, go ahead. i think biden's fundamental problem is, is that he was elected not be donald trump, yet
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a lot of the american people were tired of all the, the fighting and the drama and that tweeting and bite and seem like a safe choice. he was a sort of a land career politician and the thought was that, well he'll get in there and we'll have a so called return to normalcy. unfortunately, the democratic party is now controlled by the hard left, the bernie sanders, the elizabeth warren types, and so biden was supposed to be a unifier, but he comes in with a hard left agenda thinking he's going to be another franklin roosevelt. and the american people aren't very happy about giant increases and the tax burden and the burden of government spending not dimension. afghanistan and the pandemic and things like that. i think biden is like a deer in the headlights, because having been a career politician who simply punched a clock and did whatever a sort of consensus was for the democratic party. he's now hot in a democratic already that wants to do radical things that just aren't where the
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american people are. you know, you know, richard is the, the, the f d r has been mentioned so many times, i think it's quite laughable because f, d, r had a truly a mandate. and when he came into the presidency, but you know, f d r, if you like or dislike. um, he said we need to get america back to work. i'm, i'm a pretty simple guy. i can understand a statement like that. let's get back to work. but while i here is how awful i am is a conservative. i mean, i have to make an admission to everyone you know, 20 years ago, i was pretty far on the left, but the left left me and left me where i am. okay. i mean, i've never seen a president attack so many of people that disagree with them. and it's, it's more than just a political disagreement. it's a cultural one. think also, and that is so off putting in his speech on, on, on, on some civil rights. which astounded me. i've never heard of president my life ever talk that way. richard. your thoughts after come after basically comparing the
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events of george floyd to the life in the works of martin luther came in to really lose a little bit of credibility. but when you fail this badly, let's be real. when you fail this badly at your job of keeping your promises and both. yes, absolutely. right. you know, he was the other in this race against donald trump last year. so or 2 years now. he was the other, so he really had this, these big shoes to fill. who are you going to blame when you don't fill them? because it is true. people were tired of the tweets of people we, paul, now they look back on it and many basically tell us, you know, give me the angry tweets back as long as inflation doesn't keep rising. give me the angry tweets back. as long as i, you know, the, the labor market tightens again. so, but, but it's really, we're at that point now where it's too late. when people look to him and ask, you know, the president, what are we going to do? what is the administration going to do? they're out of their really out of office and moving on. an ideological agenda now, it's not based on problem solving. it's based on ideology. so somebody has to be
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blamed for that, peter, that he can't get the pandemic under control. it's the unvaccinated fault. no, he can't do this correctly. it's this business is faults, this industry is full. so that is what political leaders do when they fail. that's what happens when regime start to flounder. they, they look for others to blame and that's what they're doing. you know, helen, you know, it's textbook a, you know, bill clinton. i mean, as a person is character, you know, i'm not a big fan of, but i mean, he was a good politician. ok. and he learned to pivot. i mean, all the, all i see the administration who says doubling down on things that don't work. i mean, i've never seen such a tone deaf administration when, you know leadership, it's about it being able to recruit, generate options and take them. we don't see that happening here. is it because, you know, everyone really wants to know who's running the show here. ok. big, i mean, is this some of the speeches that he is a delivered? he's use language, he's never used in his entire political career. i mean,
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i don't think he even knew word equity meant until he went into the white house. i mean, is it because dan is pointed out to us here? i mean, is, is it a certain agenda, a left of se, agenda, hard laugh, progress or whatever it is? is that what's captured him because he's not capturing anything. go ahead helen. no, since on a far left it, and it's not a leftist agenda at all. the biden administration is being run by black rock and vanguard. the 2 largest asset managers in the world, basically control with by means of owning like a 10 percent. sharon, every company in the world basically. and so it's, it's definitely not leftist edge and not allow people like to blame the left because it's easy to do. and they, i guess a posture in this let, this man, i've never had any, a plan to govern according to the promises that he was making. it was merely an attempt to pull the wall over our eyes while they basically thrust in all of his new normal bill back better thing, which is the globalist agenda. it's not an american thing at all. it's not an american leftist thing at all. it's just a, it's a,
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it's this attempt to sort of cover up a, a totalitarian technocracy under the rubric of. busy oh yes, a fair and equitable and, and everyone will be a benefit from this thing. if you look at any of the a yearly missives that larry think, the ceo black rock sends out to all of his shareholders every year. you can basically see the, the u. s. political agenda being they being given bullet points marching orders in these letters. so, i mean, a lot of people haven't even heard of these companies, but a black rock and ben car are calling the shots here and has something to do the left leading to the right it. so this way above biden's pay grade for one thing and he's just yet he's so he's the fall guy for this. when i, when, when, before the election, i said that neither of these 2 men really wanted to be left holding the bag when the us empire collapse because i believed it was going to collapse within the next 4 years. i still think that and i think fighting is,
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i mean it is good for years basically over either way. so he, they figured he was he would be a good sacrificial lamb as 0 originally in the white house. yeah. well, i know that fewer and fewer democrats are defending, and dan, do you see i do it by the administration is ideological. dan, i think the bite administration is ideological. i think they do have a left wing agenda. now. what's interesting marrying to what was just said this left wing agenda somehow is perfectly okay with some of the financial lead on wall street. nels are of the file that they've sort of this deal in their own minds that okay, we'll go along with these higher taxes so long as we get the easy money, the artificially low interest rate, that goose, the financial markets. now in the long run, i think that's a very misguided trade, that these rich people are making who are supporting the laugh at the democratic party. i think you wind up having bubbles that then erst, i don't think it's
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a very smart thing to do. i think given america lot, i'll fiscal crisis, so you know, we can talk about black rock and band guard all we want. and yes, i think some of the elite who are sort of going along with the bite administration, are making a huge tactical, strategical political and economic mistake. but i don't think that changes the fact that it is a hard left agenda from the bernie sanders, elizabeth warren wing of the democratic party. that in fact has stopped the white house. well, it's very interesting because i think a lot of progressive with agree with some of the things you said a lot of conservatives would. and libertarians, i think we're on to something, or we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on and leak control. se with our tv ah, ah,
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welcome back to cross top. were all things considered on peter labelle to remind you we're discussing elite control. ah, okay, let's go back to richard in gainesville. i don't know to sum up the last part of the 1st block there i, i see a little realignment thinking there, maybe we could do a separate program on that. i want to go to a little bit different direction everybody. we had bush junior and then we had obama, then we had trump, and now we have biden. and it seems like we're going from one extreme, it least, you know, rhetorically and certainly characterize from one to another. and it's very, very different. and it seems to me, richard, that shows a lot of frustration that a lot of voters have. all voters have is that they, they go from obama to trump, that's a pretty extreme change. ok. and basically, all of these presidents are tamed, maybe even tamed,
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even before they get into office. ok. i'm not a big fan of donald trump, but certainly the bureaucracy sabotaged him. left right and center. and i know a lot of people are happy about that. but then what, then, what do we have elections for? okay, what, what explains is lunging back and forth, richard. yeah, now you're, you're, i'm flashing back to old thesis in, you know, thesis is work in college feeder. i mean, that's the pendulum swing of politics in america. and to some extent, it is always been like this, right? i mean, we had eisenhower, i wouldn't call them extremely conservative, but right after yes, somebody like go was brought up before. you know, if the are and, you know, and then we go from richard nixon to lind and john, you know, linda johnson next. right. so very different swings, but we have now though in the modern own modern politics, we have this distorting force, which is the media. and i think if we had it, we could iron it least some of that out. if we had on, you know, say,
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an honest national discourse when we add elections. but in the end, when people tell us when we poll is that, you know, generally this is why somebody like a donald trump had appeal because americans really don't see the difference. right? they know the ideology, but in their own lives, in their own personal lives, they don't see the difference and nothing ever really gets solved. nothing gets done. and then they get to the, the politicians benefit and those corporations we spoke about in the last segment or benefiting, but the country is not in the long term problems or not. so it leads to just great frustration. and i think, you know, even moving forward, the idea that the former president has been a run again every day. ah, the biggest obstacle for the republican party to move forward really is themselves every day. they remind the republican voter why they voted for donald trump. why they nominated him, and so you know, because they do so by, by screwing up, you know, by betraying their, their base by not doing what they said they were going to do when they were elected or, you know, went when they ran in their individual races,
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and that's something very different from like a donald trump who, who love him or hate him. he did. so, you know, it's very to it very typical in our history that we see these pendulum swings in electoral politics. but in the people, after all these years, peter to say, ah, the republican sat down in 2022. is it really gonna matter? you know, joe biden loses in 2024, or whoever they run to replace him because i'm not sure is going to make it isn't really going to matter. not is what gives appeal get, you know, to candidates like bernie sanders and like donald trump, who people view to be authentic. yeah. helen, i mean it's, it's, you know, we go through these cycles who have the mid terms in general and we get, you know, you go round and sort of, it's great for programs like this to talk about politics, you know. but at the end of day, how much gets done, i mean, richard is absolutely right. we have all these promises. i don't care if it's a republican or a democrat, all of these promises and we basically get more or less the same. and i think that this is, there's a great fatigue in that because they're
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a really huge problems facing the electorate. and you know, with so many promises made than promises broken. i mean, and i, and it's this become more apparent in the, by the administrator. maybe just because he just isn't up to the job. i'm not a doctor. okay. but you know the same thing. i mean, i've seen this, you know, obama came in and it was the radiant view. future a left, an empty suit. okay. and we see this repeatedly over and over again. your thoughts, helen? yeah, they all come in with this miss house behind him. i mean, obama was supposed be this great reformer and his entire cabinet was picked by citibank. so i mean, idea, a few people gradually realize, oops, we just let the wrong guy and, but yeah, as far as the pendulum swing goes. busy there people are just registering their dissatisfaction people go to for trump, because they were extremely let down by obama. people voted for either because they felt or, or the media told them they felt extremely le let down or in other, in some way offended by tongue. so unfortunate the media does have a lot to do with the fact that we still have this going back and forth and getting
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nothing done. but as the division and the dividing and concrete increases to cover up to the fact that the empty seats in the white house are incapable of accomplishing anything for the good of the american people, or really for the good of anything other than their stock portfolios. then it becomes a question of, of we are, it becomes a question of who, where, where can we, where can we look, where can be lay the blame it's, it's, it's it that the instead of governing by caught what cooperation like a good compromise in getting things done in a, in congress whenever it becomes governing by executive order. and so basically the next, i can just undo, last ais, present value. we've seen that with obama 1st and then now with, with, with trump and then we biden. so it's just, this completely reversal. and erasing the last i came before, it's become far too easy to do that and, and so this is, this is why you have a larger portion of the american electorate identifying is independent as either of the 2 parties. you know, dan, i'm going to ask you an odd question and it's not
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a trick question. what, what is a, what does it take to be a successful president? what is a successful presidency? do you have an example in your mind? and if that exit wet, wet, wet, wet example, a, could a, given that example, how could it help biden? it's not a trick question. i promise. go ahead. if you want a successful presidency, i guess at 1st depends on your measurement of success. sure, lyndon johnson got a lot done. i think it was all very bad for the country at the are got a lot done. i think his policies help keep us in a great depression for a decade. on the other hand, ronald reagan got a lot done and i think are restored america's economy. so it's hard to answer that question without the, without selling your philosophical dollars. but, but here's something i don't think we're appreciated. the reason we have so much of a challenge in the united states is we're not a parliamentary system. we're a separation of power system. so by definition, the way our founders rated our country in our constitution,
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it made it very difficult for politicians in washington to change things. and as a result, people get very frustrated and then add on to that, that we were elections in the united states. and political debates in the united states now aren't focusing on the things that i care about, like axes and spending their focusing on things like a race relations and woke ness and political correctness and abortion. in other words, the social and cultural issues. now i think are playing a big, big role going back what i said before, i think this is why some of the elite on wall street now identified more with democrats because culturally, they see a closer affinity. and this is why say low income weights and hispanics are now identify more with republicans. and it's not because they necessarily want sla government like i want, they just don't like the woke agenda of the left and, and this is really scrambling our politics mixing in with our separation of power
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system and just creating a situation where a lot of people get very frustrated. well richard, but they do daniels absolutely. right. i mean this is not on an accidental strategy . ok? because again, you know, i started out this block by talking about realignment because i think libertarians conservatives and progressive. we have a lot more in common though, that the media discourse never allows us to talk to each other because we're all mortal enemies. you can talk to him. okay, but me, but daniel's right on many different fronts here. and it's also about leadership. i mean, joe biden, we showed up in congress a few days ago. nobody respected him. people just walking around, milling around. oh, it's the president. okay. you know, i'm going to go to lunch. okay. i mean, there's no real sense of leadership here because daniels absolutely right. i mean, you know, what is a good president? well, it depends ideologically. but what he does with daniel described was leadership. okay. and all of the presidents that him a named republican and democrat richard, go ahead. yeah, i was thinking about that when he, when he was talking and,
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and really looking at this historically. yeah, i mean, george w bush, you can call him whatever you want to call him. and during the end of his final term, the economy was in a downward spiral. all they really did try to address the community reinvestment act issues and but they failed. ah, but at least he still had a relationship with congress in the obama era. i think a lot of americans don't understand us or don't know because the media really the, they don't cover the news like this anymore. but during the obama era did the white house, the communication between the white house and the congress just completely broke down. and they stopped talking to each other. we went from, it was brinkman, ship politics, one from what and one get ceiling. a crisis to the next, you know, really manufactured in during the era of tromp when donald trump came in the initial 2 years, some of that relationship had been restored because it was by party. and we talk about why things never get done. the minute democrats took over
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a lot of stuff that was in the works that were, was really what popular measures among the people, her scriptures drawn cos, ah, you know, lies commons wanted to work with president trump on that. but nancy paul, as you put the kibosh on it, because you can't give the president of political win. so we went back then, you know, we went back to what happened under obama, which was just breakdown of communication between the white house and the legislature. and that leads the president to get frustrated and they start rolling by for yacht and every time a new president comes in they can take their pan and white their agenda away. so i, you know, this is, it's really not by it's, it's, the problem isn't bipartisanship. it's, this is extreme power politics. ah, yeah, i think it's cute for people to say both sides play, but i would argue once i started it, i mean, but the democrats started it, they did. ah, let's play, wow, let's be real. i mean, there's a history and there's been some things right. and something's wrong, they started it and now what i'm inside when you re chat, richard, i know he kind childish chip for jack. i would make the argument that when they go
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bipartisan, it's usually for very wrong things like foreign wars. okay. and there's my heart as a chip rod, be careful. okay. because it's really quite. that's why i like that word now and we're almost out of time. you finish it up. go ahead. yeah, this bipartisanship of this is really the difference between democrats and republicans is so minute as to be almost invisible. i mean, yes they have, this is talk with what talk is a distraction for the agenda which has been picking your pocket constantly and ruining your economy and forcing you to turn against your neighbor. because your neighbor maybe doesn't want to where i'm asking the supermarket. i mean this, this is agenda is not that these are not 2 separate, fully formed philosophies that are doing battle in the marketplace of ideas. these are 2 like scam me, rip off artists that just a victim and they're just, it's like to bolters fighting over a carcass. it's. there's no difference between these 2 parties except for the on
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the surface. there's maybe they'll don't be a little more diverse looking on the surface, but deep inside the same ugly, disgusting palace. i think you should have a show on r t. i like your delivery there. okay, for that's all the time we, i v i one many thanks my guess in new york, fairfax and in gainesville, and thanks for viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time. remember crossed up ah, ah no one else seemed wrong when old fools just don't hold any rules yet to shape out. disdain becomes the african and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will
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support. we choose to look for common ground. yes ma'am. oh, oh, really schools that will at least the typical there is only 9 but already 8 university students that away m rational. if that was a new month's appointment, let's see. yep. you got the doors to deal with a with him so that he may come can only cause he with now brochure nebraska and of course with them when you're special, but i will the yeah my what i say the 1st grade and i was thinking what the plan was to get on the she was in your mind, it was something that it was if the w 30 with susan cook
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