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was blaming russia. i have read many of her unsourced unsubstantiated claims of amazement that they were ever published for years. she has pumped these claims about russian agents and russian money throughout our body politic and the process . she has not only attacked individuals, but every member of the british public who vote if it breaks it in 2016. her story keeps evolve it as the court case drags on her letters. the fences that banks might have been used and exploited by the kremlin ledge to her is as reasonable. after all, he does have a russian wife, which i, today's journalism standards is apparently enough to mess up someone's life. says uniform cross talk in just a few moments time that he and i are back in half an hour with the very latest global headlines on a 2nd there. ah
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ah ah ah. hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things considered? i'm peter lavelle. the binding ministration is under water in just about every way . does this do too bad policies are bad messaging. maybe it's both. there is also an important question. yes, presidents come and go. but elite in special interests remain very powerful. are they a threat to democracy? ah, crush, sucking elite control. i'm joined by my guess. helena by nice sky in new york. she's a journalist and a commentator in fairfax. we have daniel mitchell. he is chairman at the center for freedom and prosperity and in gainesville,
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the cross richard bars. he is director of big data poll or across stock rules in effect, that means you can jump in any time you want. i always appreciate it. let me know to richard 1st in gainesville, you're the, you're the poll guy. you're the no numbers guy here across the board. it looks at the, the biden administration is really in very big trouble here. what accounts for that in one year's time in one year, ian, we have a, he's basically underwater, in every respect. as i mentioned in my introduction, it give us the numbers. why you 1st richard? yeah, i think 1st i've been telling people this is the start of his administration. it was a bit of an impossible promise to keep. we have to keep this in mind that he was going to shut down the virus, not the economy. ah, you know, the idea that somehow changing the president was going to get a grip on a pan damage. and really in the end, peter, when people started to realize that, you know, the virus was going away. and that is really what gave bitin of that he took a hit from that point on, lot of people point to afghanistan. but really,
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that was just a follow up to van of follow up event to his dropping poll numbers. what really started that the advent of it all, was the realization that the pandemic that the promises made about the pandemic. we're not going to be fulfilled. so that's important to keep in mind, and i would also point out, democrats, everyone does this before midterm, but yeah, every republicans did it last time with tax reform. they argued they just can't communicate the message, but that's not really the case. the message itself, the agenda itself is unpopular. so it really is a combination of things. but without a doubt you can it, you can almost overlap our trends with cov, it is approval on cove it with his overall approval. and you can start to see all the other issues you never really got high, high marks on but he did on cove at almost 60 percent in our polling. and once that started to crater, the you know, overall approval, crated with it. okay. helen, the same question to you because i post the question in my introduction, who is it? is that the policies or the messaging and richard is saying it's both. what say you
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go ahead helen. i would agree that it's both. i mean, the problem was that most people who voted for biden were necessarily building provide they were going against trump. so, i mean, once, once the high new phase of that little affair is over, then you realize, okay, well i have this a career politician who's never done anything in the entire 50 years. he's been in washington. what would be expected to do something? now it's just people, people gradually woke up to the fact and yes, he made his whole campaign about coded and when he failed to deliver on that and it was call it. and it was this, the idea of unity in our democracy, quote unquote. and instead of like uniting america is basically just tried to stick one half of us against the other half in every way possible. whether it's through whether people are in favor of mandatory vaccines or in favor. latinos are in favor masking, all every little morsel of the, of the coby narrative has become a, basically, a mortal combat, like fight to death under bite it because it's,
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it's easier for him to be preoccupied with one another than to be staring at the white house wondering why are they doing anything? why are they letting this thing spiral out of control? why are they printing so much money? why is the dollar now worth approximately, like one on hundreds of one says it's, it's not going to get any better until people start holding people accountable and they won't be doing that while we're being divided and conquered. okay, well that you bring you bring up a very good point. let me go to richard in fairfax here. bite and came to the presidency, trying saying that he would be united and you know, he has united everyone, almost everyone against him. how did that happen? rick? daniel, go ahead. i think biden's fundamental problem is, is that he was elected not be donald trump, yet a lot of the american people were tired of all the, the fighting and the drama and that tweeting and bite and seem like
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a safe choice. he was a sort of a lan career politician and the thought was that, well, he'll get in there and we'll have a so called return to normalcy. unfortunately, the democratic party is now controlled by the hard left, the bernie sanders, the elizabeth warren types, and so biden was supposed to be a unifier, but he comes in with a hard left agenda thinking he's going to be another franklin roosevelt. and the american people aren't very happy about giant increases and the tax burden and the burden of government spending not dimension. afghanistan and the pandemic and things like that. i think biden is like a deer in the headlights, big as having been a career politician who simply punched a clock and did whatever a sort of consensus was for the democratic party. he's now hot in a democratic party that wants to do radical things that just aren't where the american people are. you know, you know, richard is the, the, the f
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d r has been mentioned so many times, i think it's quite laughable because f, d, r had a truly a mandate. and when he came into the presidency, but you know, f d r, if you like or dislike. um, he said we need to get america back to work. i'm, i'm a pretty simple guy. i can understand a statement like that. let's get back to work. but while i here is how awful i am is a conservative. i mean, i have to make an admission to everyone you know, 20 years ago, i was pretty far on the left, but the left left me and left me where i am. okay. i mean, i've never seen a president attack so many of people that disagree with him. and it's, it's more than just a political disagreement. it's a cultural one. think also, and that is so off putting his speech on on, on, on some civil rights which astounded me. i've never heard of president my life ever talk that way. richard. your thoughts after come after basically comparing the events of george floyd to the life in the works of martin luther came in to really
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lose a little bit of credibility. but when you fail this badly, let's be real. when you fail this badly at your job of keeping your promises and both guests. absolutely right. you know, he was the other in this race against donald trump last year. so or 2 years now. he was the other. so he really had this, these big shoes to fill. who are you going to blame when you don't fill them? because it is true. people were tired of the tweets of people we, paul, now they look back on it and many basically tell us, you know, give me the angry tweets back as long as inflation doesn't keep rising. give me the angry tweets back. as long as i, you know, the, the labor market tightens again. so, but, but it's really, we're at that point now where it's too late. when people look to him and ask, you know, the president, what are we going to do? what is the administration going to do? they're out of their really out of office and moving on. an ideological agenda now, it's not based on problem solving. it's based on ideology. so somebody has to be blamed for that, peter, that he can't get the pandemic under control. it's the unvaccinated fault. you know,
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he can't do this correctly. it's this business is faults, this industry is full. so that is what political leaders do when they fail. that's what happens when regime start to flounder. they, they look for others to blame and that's what they're doing. you know, helen, you know, it's textbook a, you know, bill clinton. i mean, as a person is character, you know, i'm not a big fan of, but i mean, he was a good politician. ok. and he learned to pivot. i mean, all the, all i see the administration who says doubling down on things that don't work. i mean, i've never seen such a tone deaf administration when, you know leadership, it's about it being able to recruit, generate options and take them. we don't see that happening here. is it because, you know, everyone really wants to know who's running the show here. ok. big, i mean, is the some of the speeches that he is a delivered he's use language, he's never used in his entire political career. i mean, i don't think he even knew word equity meant until he went into the white house. i mean, is it because dan is pointed out to us here?
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i mean, is, is it a certain agenda, a left of agenda, hard laugh, progress or whatever it is? is that what's captured him because he's not capturing anything. go ahead helen. no, since on a far left it, and it's not a leftist agenda at all. the biden administration is being run by black rock and vanguard. the 2 largest asset managers in the world, basically control with by means of owning like a 10 percent. sharon, every company in the world basically. and so it's, it's definitely not leftist inch. and a lot of people like to blame the left because it's easy to do. and they, i guess a posture in this let, this man, i've never had any, a plan to govern according to the promises that he was making. it was merely an attempt to pull the wall over. busy our eyes while they basically thrust in all of his new normal bill back better thing, which is the globalist agenda. it's not an american thing at all. it's not an american leftist thing at all. it's just a, it's a, it's this attempt to sort of cover up a, a totalitarian technocracy under the rubric of, oh yes, a fair and equitable and,
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and everyone will be a benefit from this thing. if you look at any of the a yearly missives that larry think the ceo flat rock sends out to all of his shareholders every year. you can basically see the, the u. s. political agenda being they being given bullet points marching orders in these letters. so i mean a lot of people haven't even heard of these companies, but. busy black rock and ben guard are calling the shots here and has something to do the left leading to the right it. so that's way above biden's pay grade for one thing, and he's just yet he's. so he's the fall by for this. when i, when, when, before the election, i said that neither of these 2 men really wanted to be left holding the bag when the us empire collapse because i believed it was way to collapse within the next 4 years. i still think that and i think fighting is, i mean it is good for years basically over either way. so he, they figured he was he would be a good sacrificial lamb as 0 originally in the white house. yeah. well,
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i know that fewer and fewer democrats are depending, and dan, do you see on to do it by the administration is ideological. dan, i think by the administration is ideological. i think they do have a left wing agenda. now. what's interesting marrying to what was just said this left wing agenda somehow is perfectly okay with some of the financial elite on wall street. no, i think they've sort of stuck this deal in their own minds that okay, we'll go along with these higher taxes so long as we get the easy money, the artificially low interest rate, that goose, the financial markets. now in the long run, i think that's a very misguided trade, that these rich people are making guar supporting the laugh at the democratic party . i think you wind up having bubbles that then burst. i don't think it's a very smart thing to do. i think given america's long run fiscal challenges,
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expanding the well 1st aid simply creates the risk of a greek style facebook crisis. so, you know, we can talk about black rock and band guard all we want. and yes, i think some of the elite who are sort of going along with the bite administration are making a huge tactical, strategical political and economic mistake. but i don't think that change is the fact that it is a hard left agenda from the bernie sanders, elizabeth warren wing of the democratic party. that in fact has stopped the white house. well, it's very interesting because i think a lot of progressive would agree with some of the things you said a lot of conservatives would. and libertarians, i think, were on this on the, or we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on a leak control. se with argy ah, ah, ah
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ah, ah, yes, i will go, look, we're in school, that will at least the typical there's only 9, but already university students that away man's national world. if everything you impact feedback on like his teams and you must but wouldn't let him live. you got the glass doors to deal with or did it not? no bull choose to snable took over. yeah. but that's a little meeting. could i feel good?
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yes. so the loss of these mother, younger children, that he make them come over to coast, he reaches control such programs. now bush 19 pasco porcelain veneer special. i wish the yeah, my tooth. but i just have a 1st grade, not for secure what sure at the playbook was to kinda push him was in your mind getting this, i'm did it while it's if the w 30, where little was as much prologue as your new, which with soon losing credibility to do to prove when you most of judge blanca from his teacher was reason is bernice good, good. 6 mm hm. welcome back to cross top. were all things are considered on peter level to remind you we're discussing elite control. ah
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okay, let's go back to richard in gainesville. i don't know to sum up the last part of the 1st block there i, i see a little real line min thinking there. maybe we could do a separate program on that. i want to go to little bit different direct everybody. we had bush junior and then we had obama, then we had trump, and now we have biden. and it seems like we're going from one extreme, at least, you know, rhetorically and certainly characterize from one to another. and it's very, very different. and it seems to me, richard, that shows a lot of frustration that a lot of voters have. all voters have is that they, they go from obama to trump, that's a pretty extreme change. ok. and basically, all of these presidents are tamed, maybe even tamed, even before they get into office. ok. i'm not a big fan of donald trump, but certainly the bureaucracy sabotaged him. left right and center. and i know a lot of people are happy about that. but then what been, what do we have elections for?
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ok. what, what explains is lunging back and forth. richard. yeah. now you're, you're, i'm flashing back to old thesis in, you know, thesis is work and college feeder. i mean, that's the pendulum swing of politics in america. and to some extent, it is always been like this, right? i mean, we had eisenhower, i wouldn't call him extremely conservative, but right after you had somebody like go was brought up before you know, f d r a, you know, and then we go from richard nixon to lind and john and linda johnson next. right. so very different swings, but we have now though in the modern out modern politics, we have this distorting force, which is the media. and i think if we had it, we could iron it least some of that out. if we had a, you know, say, an honest national discourse when we add elections, but in the end, what people tell us when we poll is that, you know, generally this is why somebody like a donald trump had appeal. because americans really don't see the difference. right?
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they know the ideology, but in their own lives, in their own personal lives, they don't see the difference and nothing ever really gets solved. nothing gets done. and then they get to the, the politicians benefit and those corporations we spoke about in the last segment or benefiting, but the country is not in the long term problems or not. so it leads to just great frustration. and i think, you know, even moving forward, the idea that the former president is going to run again every day. ah, the biggest obstacle for the republican party to move forward really is themself every day. they remind the republican voter why they vote for donald trump. why they nominated him, and so you know, because they do so by, by screwing up, you know, by betraying their, their base by not doing what they said they were going to do when they were elected or, you know, went when they ran in their individual races, and that's something very different from like a donald trump who, who love him or hate him. he did. so, you know, it's very to it very typical in our history that we see these pendulum swings in electoral politics. but in the people, after all these years, peter to say, ah,
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the republican stake down in 2022. is it really gonna matter? you know, joe biden loses in 2024, or whoever they run to replace him because i'm not sure is going to make it isn't really going to matter. not is what gives appealed. give, you know, to candidates like bernie sanders and like donald trump, who people view to be authentic. yeah. helen, i mean it's, it's, you know, we go through these cycles who have the mid terms in general and we get, you know, you go round and sort of, it's great for programs like this to talk about politics, you know. but at the end of day, how much gets done, i mean, richard is absolutely right. we have all these promises. i don't care if it's a republican or a democrat, all of these promises and we basically get more or less the same. and i think that this is, there's a great fatigue in that because they're a really huge problems facing the electorate. and you know, it's so many promises made than promises broken. i mean, and i, and it's this become more apparent in the, by the administrator. maybe just because he just isn't up to the job. i'm not
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a doctor. okay. but you know the same thing. i mean, i've seen this, you know, obama came in and it was the radiant view. future a left, an empty suit. okay. and we see this repeatedly over and over again. your thoughts, helen? yeah, they all come in with this mythos behind him. i mean, obama was supposed be this great reformer and his entire cabinet was picked by citibank. so i mean, idea, a few people gradually realize, oops, we just let the wrong guy and, but yeah, as far as the pendulum swing goes. busy there people are just registering their dissatisfaction people go to for trump, because they were extremely let down by obama. people voted for either because they felt or, or the media told them they felt extremely le let down or in other, in some way offended by tongue. so unfortunate the media does have a lot to do with the fact that we still have this going back and forth and getting nothing done. but as the division and the dividing and concrete increases to cover up to the fact that the empty seats in the white house are incapable of accomplishing. busy anything for the good of the american people or really for the
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good of anything other than their stock portfolios. busy then it becomes a question of, of we are, it becomes a question of who, where, where can we, where can we look, where can we lay the blame? it's, it's, it's, it that the, instead of governing by court who up cooperation like a good compromise in getting things done in an, in congress whenever it becomes governing by executive order. and so basically the next guy, he just undo last dies president, and we've seen that with obama 1st. and then now with, with, with trump and then we biden. so it's just this completely reversal and erasing the last i came before, it's become far too easy to do that and, and so this is, this is why you have a larger portion of the american electorate identifying as independent as either of the 2 parties. you know, dan, i'm going to ask you an odd question and it's not a trick question. what, what is a, what does it take to be a successful president? what is a successful presidency? do you have an example in your mind? and if that is wet, wet, wet, wet example, a, could a, given that example,
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how could it help biden? it's not a trick question. i promise. go ahead. you want a successful presidency? i guess at 1st depends on your measurement of success. sir. lyndon johnson got a lot done. i think it was all very bad for the country. f d r got a lot done, i think has policies helped keep us in a great depression for a decade. on the other hand, ronald reagan got a lot done and i think are restored america's economy. so it's hard to answer that question without the without fil a, your philosophical dollars. but, but here's something i don't think we're appreciated. the reason we have so much of a challenge in the united states is we're not a parliamentary system. we're a separation of power system. so by definition, the way our founders rated our country in our constitution, it made it very difficult for politicians in washington to change things. and as a result, people get very frustrated and then add on to that, that we were elections in the united states and political debates. and the united
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states now aren't focusing on the things that i care about, like axes and spending their focusing on things like a race relations and woke this and political correctness and abortion. in other words, the social and cultural issues. now i think are playing a big, big role bully back. what i said before, i think this is why some of the elite on wall street now identify more with democrats because culturally, they see a closer affinity. and this is why say low income weights and hispanics are now identifying where with republicans, it's not because they necessarily want sla government like i want, they just don't like the woke agenda of the left and, and this is really scrambling our politics mixing in with our separation of power system and just creating a situation where a lot of people get very frustrated. well, richard would think daniel's absolutely right. i mean this is not on an accidental tragedy. ok? because again, you know,
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i started out this block by talking about realignment because i think libertarians conservatives and progressive. we have a lot more in common, though, that the media discourse never allows us to talk to each other because we're all mortal enemies. you can talk to him, okay, but me, but daniel's right on many different fronts here. and it's also about leadership. i mean, joe biden, we showed up in congress a few days ago. nobody respected him. people just walking around, milling around. oh, it's the president. okay. you know, i'm going to go to lunch. okay. i mean, there's no real sense of leadership here because daniels absolutely right. i mean, you know, what is a good president? well, it depends ideologically. but what he does with daniel described was leadership. okay. and all of the presidents that him a named republican and democrat richard, go ahead. yeah, i was thinking about that when he, when he was talking and, and really looking at this historically. yeah, i mean george w bush, you can call him whatever you want to call him. and during the end of his final term, the economy was in
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a downward spiral. all they really did try to address the community reinvestment act issues, but they failed. ah, but at least he still had a relationship with congress in the obama era. i think a lot of americans don't understand us or don't know because the media really the, they don't cover the news like this anymore. but during the obama era, did the white house, the communication between the white house and the congress just completely broke down. and they stopped talking to each other. we went from, it was brinkman, ship politics. we went from what and one get ceiling, a crisis to the next, you know, really manufactured in, during the era of trauma. when donald trump came in, in the initial 2 years, some of that relationship had been restored because it was by party. and we talk about why things never get done. the minute democrats took over a lot of stop that was in the works that were, was really what popular measures among the people who scription draw cause, ah, you know, lies are coming to wanted to work with president trump on that. but nancy paul, as you put the kibosh on it, because you can't give the president
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a political win. so we went back then, you know, we went back to what happened under obama, which was this breakdown of communication between the white house and the legislature. and that leads the president to get frustrated and they start rolling by for yacht and every time a new president comes in they can take their pan and white their agenda away. so i, you know, this is, it's really not by it's, it's the problem isn't bipartisanship insistence, extreme power politics. ah, yeah. i think it's cute for people to say both sides play, but i would argue one side started it. i mean, but the democrats started it. they did, i'm, let's play, well, let's be real. i mean there's history in, there's been some things right. and something's wrong. they started it and now what i'm inside when he to rich rich at richard. i know i, it's a little childish chip for tat. i would make the argument that when they go bipartisan, it's usually for very wrong things like foreign wars. okay. and there's my heart as you chip rod, be careful. okay. because it's really quite
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a time to like that word how it we're almost out of time. you finish it up, go ahead. yes, bipartisanship like this is really the difference between the democrats republicans is so minute as to be almost invisible. i mean, yes, they have this book talk with the world talk is a distraction for the agenda, which has been picking your pocket constantly and ruining your economy and forcing you to turn against your neighbor. because your neighbor maybe doesn't want to where i'm asking the supermarket. i mean this, this, this is agenda is not it. these are not 2 separate, fully formed philosophies that are doing battle in the marketplace of ideas. these are 2 like scam artists that just a victim and they're just, it's like to bolters fighting over at harkins it's. there's no difference between these 2 parties except for the surface. there's maybe they'll don't be a little more diverse looking on the surface, but deep inside the same ugly, disgusting political you. hey, listen, i think you should have a show on r t. i like your delivery there. okay. for that's all the time we are behind. many
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