hope to hear from the united states in the next week concerning the security and requests from russia for the whole of europe, for the future of european security. now, in the past, the u. s. as being reticence about providing written responses to those requests, some of the things that have been on rushes in want lists and the u. s. has said publicly that they're, they're not prepared to enter into and they didn't want to put them down on paper because that would cause problems for future diplomacy. it would seem that, and one of the things that said a lot for of did say, is that the u. s. has understood that russia's concerns go beyond ukraine itself and all to do with security across europe. and that there needs to be some form of new you repeat insecurity framework put in place to waiting to see of course what that response from the united states is said. the alarm for did say whether that response would be published would depend on what the response walls

and after he'd spoken to secretary of state blink. and following the reply from the u. s. when it came to potentially, what we could see happening well, and he did say that there was no intentions to invade ukraine. these questions were put to the foreign minister, and there was no direct threat posed to ukraine from russia. he also said when it came to was asked a question by a colleague more spanish language service about and you stories of russia putting military infrastructure into either cuba or venezuela. the russian foreign minister saying that wasn't discussed at all with the u. s. secretary of state, and that said he left off also saying that m a d u s. his u. s. counterpart had been encouraged to use washington's influence upon keith in order to get ukraine to adhere to the a minsk as the minced piece protocols in the east of ukraine, waiting to hear from the former anthony blinking to get his sight. also those talks,

they all wrapped up in around an hour and a half. it's pretty much what we were expecting. these were never going to be the talks that sorted out. all of the issues between russia and nato, russia in the west. what they were an opportunity to do was to, to make sure that the diplomatic route was still very much open. certainly what we've heard from certainly love role. that seems to be the case that there's plenty more ground to be covered by diplomacy. yet when it comes to the situation, the tensions between russia renae so we of course have to wait to see how the united states viewed these talks before. we can get a full picture of exactly how they went down. like the ts me are expecting me. anthony, blinking to talk to the press. any minute now and as soon as he does, we will go straight to it. but thanks for now. that was printer all reporting in geneva, watching out east or to come for you this hour. ok,

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oh, when i would show the wrong one, i'll just don't rule out the thing because the attitude and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves well, the part we choose to look for common ground in the welcome back with you to nation. now a new report claim that the former pope benedict 16th has failed to tell will fail to take action in 4 cases of alleged sexual abuse. while he was serving as archbishop of german cities of munich and phrasing will study by a german law firm, looked into cases of abuse between 945 and 2019. and how church officials handled

them. according to the report, over 2 thirds of people investigated, turned out to be priest. the report also said that the former pope supported this latest inquiry but denied any wrong doing well. we spoke with wilford festal men who says he was a victim of sex, abuse by the clergy during that period. and he told us what he's been through someone. it happened in the summer of $979.00. i was 11 years old back then pastor act served as st. andrews church and when he left us and groups of people started attacking me, they knew i was one of the reasons he left. we moved to another district of the town and in 1999, i began to be affected by my experiences. i could not work. i had dizziness. i could not drive or simply go out of the house. my whole family was suffering because of that. i started visiting doctors to find out what the problem was. and finally i got to see a psychotherapist. i told him the whole story and he said i had been through a really traumatic experience that triggered memories of all the abuse. i had

experience. when i saw the pastor munich, he was standing among other pastor, smiling. i told myself, listen paraphilias disease. so he'll most likely keep going, he did. but it's not the 1st time obviously that senior catholic clergyman have been under fire over alleged sexual abuse because numerous of the cases have been reported in other german cities, ireland and also france. wilford festal. mon again says that after his letter, pope benedict did change punishment guidelines the clergy guilty of sex offences, but says it's taken so long to happen when i am feeble on flight in 2006 in 2008, i sent an ottoman emails to the munich diocese, i wrote about my experiences with pastor x when he was in s, and they ignored my letter in 2006. so i tried again in 2008 when abuse victims were demanding compensation for the 1st time. they then described my letter as criminal blackmail, but it's clear that i hadn't been blackmailing the church. those officials who came to me realize i was

a victim right away. they also realized they themselves had been used by the church . they were simply fooled by it. i was 1st of all concerned about justice because the pastor just went to another place when i was writing the letter. it was important to me to protect others and may 2010. i wrote to pope benedict. i told him my whole story on may 21st. i got a response saying the pope would take care of it and he really did what as we have seen, it took 2530 years for a victim to open up and start talking about it. now 4 and a half years after london's deadly grunfeld fire tragedy phase of a repeats have emerged among the public submit plans to build a new high rise in the area with yet again, only one set of far escape stairs for its residence on the shadow would stash the has the details in the shadows of the grunfeld tower. the tragedy that came the lives of 7 to 2 plans are in place to build a new skyscraper twice the heights and just a few meters away. despite the public inquiry concluding,

the safety policy of the grant crowds have failed. this new building is set to adhere to that feld policy, including the requirement for just a single escape staircase. we would, he knows that single staircase, krista acacia, all very difficult to use for fire fighting on the skype the same time. the whole situation is that the year every becomes very crowded. you had to have a skype roots on the exterior building because namely could be naturally eventually checked. the proposed high rise is designed to accommodate hundreds of households and would adopt similar policy neville, chicago, last 5 members of his family. on the 14th of june, 2017, and that night residents were told to stay pert. i'm very concerned for once the case of staples is also destroying to include sleep. why haven't they still learnt or from the previous, you know,

do we want to go straight into play a maker and then learn from our mistakes? we shouldn't do them. the government is currently reviewing the provision of escape routes and building regulations. while the local council insists residents, safety comes 1st, the safety of our residence as our number one priority. we took a tough line with developers to ensure that anything they build is fully compliant with all safety and other regulations as a minimum. and the local people are fully consulted. we are aware of this development and we will be providing a response to the planning consultation. while new homes can no longer be caught in combustible material, like that, which calls flames to shoot up the grunfeld tower. the government is still yet to remove cutting from thousands of tar blocks in the u. k. and unlike to do so, before 2025, the survivors on the bereaved reckoning. another high rise building while lessons haven't been learned, is unforgivable. we still haven't finished with the inquiry so,

so the proposal to be given all even new laws or recommendations or whatever it is, it's like is if we can lean on profits before lives and this can't happen when will they ever learn? it's still nothing has been learned. they say lightning doesn't strike trying. but is this really the place to build a tower and with questionable safety precautions as the community is still in morning and waiting just the shot at woodstock d oxy london. now report, i know that serious a terrorist attacked by the islamic state group is enabled over a dozen prisoners re escape a detention facility. as a car bomb was detonated just outside. local correspondent mohammed ali gave us more details. the incident happened day when a he was last with heard around the look where on prison, which is also known as a less than oper than a governor rate hearing,

which turned out to be attacked by sleepers over dice using a car bomb. they tried to attack the prison classes were reported over there between to dash terrorists attacking from the outside. and the guards of the prison affiliated, of course, would be so called through a democratic care forces. also the reports or they're coming out of that area to just that part of just from the u. s. coalition carried out stories over the area over there, and also choppers were engaged and open gunfire around in the facility of the prison. according to some curtis media outlets about 20 dash prisoners were able to escape and according to the a coordination and military operation center of the series, the aquatic forces. they said that currently engaged in an operation to re take

control entirely to prison and also asserts operations are currently underway and the neighborhoods around the way it on and it has like in order to attract those who escaped. a 2nd stage is just start speaking to the press, offers, meeting with a guy lateral in geneva at 1st. wanna begin by thanking switzerland for hosting us for its traditional hospitality, which is very much appreciated. i came to geneva following up on last week's discussions at the us, russia strategic stability dialogue, the nato, russia, council and the o. c. on the crisis and ukraine, and broader european security issues. our objective was to determine whether russia is prepared to take the diplomatic path and other necessary steps to de escalate the situation in ukraine and ultimately to resolve our differences through diplomacy and through dialogue. the discussion today with mr. leverett was

frank, him, and substantive. i conveyed the position to united states and our european allies and partners that we stand firmly with ukraine in support of its sovereignty and territorial integrity. we've been clear if any russian military forces move across ukraine's border, that's the renewed invasion. it will be met with swift, severe, and the united response from the united states, and our partners and allies. we also know from experience that russia has an extensive playbook aggression, short of military action, including cyber attacks, our military tactics and other means of advancing our interests aggressively without overly using military action. those types of russian aggression will also be met with the decisive, calibrated and again, united response. that's the clear message coming out of my meetings on wednesday in ukraine with presidents lensky for mr. cal labor. yesterday in germany with my

counterparts from germany, the u. k. friends in the european union and with transfer sholtes were united in our commitment to finding way forward through diplomacy and dialogue. but equally in our resolve to impose massive consequences. should russia choose the path of confrontation and conflict? expressed again to minister lever off that on the security concerns that russia is raised in recent weeks. the united states and our european allies and partners are prepared to pursue a possible means of addressing them in a spirit of reciprocity. which means simply put, russia must also address our concerns. there are several steps that we can take. all of us russia included, to increase transparency, to reduce risks, to advance obs control, to build trust. can they directly to minister leverage our specific concerns for russia's actions? the challenge are under my peace and security,

not only in ukraine, but throughout europe, and indeed in the world. i also laid out several ideas to reduce tensions and increased security, which we've developed in consultation with our partners and allies and where we believe we can find common ground. again, based on the principle of reciprocity. this was not negotiation, but a candidate exchange of concerns. and ideas i made clear to minister lever off that there are certain issues and fundamental principles that the united states and our partners and allies are committed to defend. that includes those that would impede the sovereign right of ukrainian people to write their own future. there is no trade space, they're not farmers for lab work. and i also talked about the way forward let me say as well that he heard from us. and from me that what is for us an invaluable rule?

nothing about ukraine without you paying nothing about nato without nato. nothing about europe without europe. based on our discussion, i believe we can carry forward this work of developing understanding agreements together that ensure our, our mutual security. but that's contingent on russia stopping it's aggression toward ukraine. so that's the choice that russia faces. now, you can choose the path of diplomacy that can lead to peace and security, or the path that will lead only to conflict, severe consequences and international condemnation. the united states and our allies and partners in europe stand ready to meet russia on either path and we will continue to stand with ukraine. i believe that for mr. lever off now has a better understanding of our position and vice versa. today's discussion was useful in that sense, and that's precisely why we met. so i'll return to washington this afternoon to

consult with president biden and our entire national security team, as well as members of congress and critically allies and partners in the days ahead . based on the discussions today, foreign mr. law and i agreed that it's important for the diplomatic process to continue. i told him that following the consultations that we'll have in the coming days with our allies and partners, we anticipate that we will be able to share with russia our concerns and ideas in more detail and in writing next week. and we agreed to further discussions after that we read as well that further diplomatic discussions would be the preferable way forward. but again, it is really up to russia to decide which path it will pursue. i should mention as well that foreign minister and i had an opportunity to discuss iran, an example of how the united states and russia can work together on security issues

of shared concern. the talks with iran about a mutual return to compliance with have reached a decisive moment. if a deal is not reached in the next few weeks around, ongoing nuclear advances will make it impossible to return the j. c p. away. but right now, there's still a window, a brief one, to bring those talks to a successful conclusion and addressed the remaining concerns of all sides. we didn't expect any major breakthroughs to happen today, but i believe we are now on a clear path up in terms of understanding each other's concerns each other's positions. let's see what the next to the next phase break. and with that, i'm happy to take your questions inter middle thank you mr. secretary. mr. latter hes spoken today about hysterical rhetoric. what he calls hysterical rhetoric from the west about an

invasion he claims to provoke ukraine and president biden said that with what has happened. so far that he believes that putin will move in because he's got to do something. so do you think have today, did you have a better understanding from mr. law? first of all, of what, whose intentions are? do you have any commitment at all that they will stop? the aggression that you say is standing in the way of any positive agreement. he says that you are going to present written responses which you just confirmed, but he wants them to be to his original proposals, which you and everyone in the administration has said from the beginning are non starters proposals to limit nato expansion. so will your written answers have any different response to him about an anal expansion which you just said it is, nothing is not negotiate. so where do you see

a space for any kind of engagement to defuse this crisis? and as you says, you brought up around, do you think there is the possibility? after talking to mr. lab problem, that you and rush us in russia and the other allies can get around and read to come into compliance and will be us then agree. sanctions, perhaps simultaneous thanks for january 1st, were not proceeding on the basis of emotion were proceeding on the basis of fact and history. the facts are that russia has amassed very significant forces, ukraine's order and continues to do so. 100000 troops, most recently including forces deployed to beatrice. that would give russia the capacity if president putin so chooses to attack ukraine from the south,

from the east, from the north. and we've seen plans to undertake a variety of d, stabilizing actions. some of them short of the over use of force to destabilize, you create to topple the government variety of things. so as i said, this is not on the basis of the motion. it's on the basis of fact and also history . russia invaded ukraine in 2014 season crimea provoking an ongoing conflict in eastern ukraine, the don das, changing your transporters by force. that's what we're looking at. we've heard russian officials say that they have no intention of invading ukraine. in fact, mr. lever off repeated that to me today. but again, we're looking at what is visible to all and it is. deeds and

actions are not words that make the difference. i suggested to mr. lab office, we have repeatedly that if russia wants to begin to convince the world that it has no aggressive intent toward ukraine, a very good place to start would be by the escalating, by bringing back out. removing his forces from ukraine's borders, as well as engaging in diplomacy and dialogue, which is what we did today. and what we plan to continue doing in the days and weeks ahead. we've, we've set along that we intended not only to respond to the concerns that russia has raised, but to share our own concerns, which are many about the actions that russia takes that we see as a threat to security in europe and indeed beyond. and so

it was important in the course of the conversations that we've had today. andrea, both last week at the speaks building dialogue between the united states and russia at the nato, russia council at the o. c. to make sure that we are fully understood each other's positions, each other's concerns. after that, and after consulting very intensely with allies in partners, president biden wanted me to have this opportunity having digested what we've heard over the last week. and maybe, and presumably the russians having had an opportunity to discuss what they were initially from us with president to really see where we are directly with foreign minister, live ross to determine whether there is a path forward for, for dialogue and for diplomacy. and then to look at how we would pursue that. and again, what was agreed today, which was that we would,

we will share with russia the response to the content, the concerns. it's raised, our own concerns and put some ideas on the table for consideration. and then we plan to meet again after rushes had an opportunity to to look at to look at that paper. and we'll see where we go from there. but let me also be clear about this to the extent that rushes engaged for now in, in diplomacy. but at the same time, continues to take us for the tory actions continues to build as forces on ukraine's border continues to plan for aggressive action against ukraine. we and all of our allies and partners are equally committed to make sure we are doing everything possible to make clear to russia, that there will be, as i said,

a swift, severe, and united response to any form of aggression by russia directed toward ukraine. finally, let me say this based on the, the conversation today area. look, i believe that there are areas where on a reciprocal basis we can address some of each other's concerns. and they go to things like greater transparency in our military activities. various risk reduction measures pursuing control and other ways to build trust that i think would address some of the concerns that rushes expressed as well as the many concerns that we have. but it's very important to be equally clear about things that we will not do. and one of those is we will not go back on the fundamental principles that we have and that we are committed to defend. and one of those

is nato's open door. and others include, as i've talked about in recent days, and in recent weeks, our commitment to the principle that the one nation can simply violate and change the border of another country by force that it can't propose to dictate to another country. it's choices, it's policies with whom it will associate and that it can't exert a sphere of influence that would subjugate its neighbors to it's, it's well, we're not going to put any of those principles in question. and i think brush understands that very well. and so again, based on the conversations we've had over the extensive conversations over the past a week and today here in geneva, i think there are grounds for a means to address some of the mutual concerns that we have about security. we'll see if, if that bears out and meanwhile,

we will continue to prepare resolutely to both pass that we've laid out for rush of the path of diplomacy and dialogue or the path of renewed aggression, confrontation, and consequences. my quality, i'm sorry, we have very limited. i'm michael kelly. oh, i'm sorry, i just said so on or on. i have to say that russia shares our sense of urgency the need to see if we can come back into mutual compliance in the weeks ahead. and we hope that russia will use the influence that it has in relationship that it has withdrawn to impress upon iran. that sense of urgency and equally that if we're unable to do that because a rod refuses to undertake the obligations that are that are necessary

that we will pursue a different path. in dealing with the danger posed by a ron's renewed nuclear program, a program that had been put in a box by the agreement that we had reached in the past. the j c. p. away. and then unfortunately has now escaped from that box. as a result of pulling out of the agreement and iran restarting it's dangerous program . michael, i think is after i could, after 4 fairly conclusive meetings between us diplomats and russian ones. does this process need to move to the presidential level 4 way through? does president my need to be speaking to president putin for progress really to be made here? and i 2nd question. if i may, in berlin, you outlined the stakes of this crisis, including the security of the sanctity of orders and the governing principles of

international peace and security. get president biden. several weeks ago, i said that use of american military force is off the table in the situation. while i'm sure that makes intuitive sense to many americans for all kinds of reasons, i wonder if you could just explicitly lay out the reasoning why that has been taken off the table. and do you believe the present statement would still apply even if russia were to invade? you great, thank you. first, on the 2nd part of the, the question we have made clear and done a number of things in support and in defense of ukraine. that, that will continue. first and foremost, we have worked in very close coordination with allies and partners to develop and make clear to russia the consequences from renewed aggression against ukraine. and

that is an important component of deterring and dissuading russia from engaging in that course. at the same time, we have proceeded with providing ukraine with significant defensive military assistance. in fact, in this year alone, more than at any time since since 2014 that continues allies and partners are doing the same. and finally, we've worked very closely with allies and partners to begin to plan for the reinforcement of nato itself on its eastern flight in the event of further russian aggression against ukraine. all these things to make clear to, to russia, the costs and consequences.