nobody has been held accountable for the torture that happened in the past, the moral authority that made america with sacrifice, but the shimmer of effective interrogation ah, youthful meeting with a candid exchange of opinions at a critical moment. that's how the russian and u. s. foreign policy, she described their talks in geneva, that's kind of made arising, tension w crane, and nato expansion. recently new to my congress to deliver. and 17 helicopters, the one house announces it's sending military helicopters to ukraine, just allas off. the de escalation talks with russia, although nato members are also ramping up weapons supplies to give you suppose it's enough to scroll through a couple of random pages to be sure, none of the provisions stand up to any critical analysis. in many cases,

it is simply a like the news conference off to the talk. so a lot of lashes out at u. s. official done mainstream media pushing fresh unproven claims against moscow when to examine those claims with law for moscow. thanks for joining us tonight. and daniel hawkins, were you all this hour? welcome to the program. now the top diplomat, so russia and the united states have finished their security talks in switzerland, bass. tensions will ukraine remain high? washington is expected to provide moscow without written response to the criminal concerns. next week ortiz peter oliver reports from geneva. so wraps up here in geneva, and we've now got a much clearer picture of exactly how both the us and russian side see these talks having gone. we heard from said again are for off the russian foreign minister who

described them as useful and constructive. we heard from anthony blinked at the u. s. secretary of state who said that they were frank. an substances will start with the russian foreign minister said gala, for of low. he was 1st to give his press conference. after the meeting wrapped up, he said that washington had promised to provide an answer in writing to security concerns that had been presented by moscow to their us partners. now he said that these weren't just security concerns focusing on ukraine. they were for the wider european area. he said that the future of these talks would depend on the response from the united states there. but he said that the diplomatic doors pretty much remained open. it's worth pointing out. there was no major movement on any of the, the big sticking points during and these talk certainly what the representatives thief, a foreign minister in the, a secretary state had to say that was tow major and tectonic shifts in where the

risk respective countries stand. what we did here though, from the russian foreign minister, as he addressed questions from the u. s. media with him say that there was no intention from moscow for them to invade ukraine at any time. why is russia doing this now? why do you feel that you need to make these troop deployment now, when really the security posture of the u. s. a. nato really hasn't changed over the past couple of years. much dos, new to rec room when you're a bug. i think the u. s. state department should analyze the methods of cnn in regard to accuracy. you say we're going to attack ukraine despite our multiple explanations that we won't. but saying this will happen. you then ask why now, when do we not attack? it's a strange question. so we've caused, repeated our fundamental point that never ending nato expansion to east should be stopped. and nibbling can repeated his position on the right to choose alliances. asked him how the u. s. plans to follow his obligation not to strengthen someone

security at the expense of the security of others. he promised to explain the us position on that well. so gail unfroze press conference was followed up with one from u. s. secretary of state anthony blinking the u. s. chief diplomat saying that the diplomatic route remained open to finding a solution for the tensions between russia and the west right now. he said that he received the sure answers from said gala, for all the russia had no intention of invading ukraine at this moment. he said he'd received those assurances in the past as well, but that if the actions of russia didn't match up to that, then there would be a response from the united states and its allies. and that response would be swift, severe, and united. and he said that there will be a response from washington to those concerns that were voiced by m moscow and that response will be coming in the next week. he also said that there's ways and means available to take the heat out of the current situation. transparency, confidence,

building measures, military exercises, arms control agreements. these are all things that we've actually done in the past . and that if a address seriously can, i believe reduce tensions and address some of the, some of the concerns. well, the you, a secretary of state also sketched out a potential timeline of where we could be going next. he said that once they've responded to moscow, he would expect that there would be further meetings at the foreign ministerial level, perhaps here in geneva. and if those meetings went well, that that could be another meeting between president putin and president biden, perhaps face to face, perhaps here in geneva, or a repeat of what we saw last year, which took place in this were city. what we have seen though is a continuation, a willingness to continue the dialogue over these ongoing tensions between russia and the west. well, the united states says it will now provide m 17 military helicopters to kiff. that

amount is when it comes just hours off the top level security talks with russia, where the us secretary of state claimed he wanted to de escalate tensions over ukraine. i would note that the united states has delivered more security assistance to ukraine in the last year. than any point in history, these deliveries are ongoing, including today there's more deliveries coming. we recently notified congress of our intent to deliver and 17 helicopters, just hours after this high level meeting. and already we have the united states increasing military aid to ukraine. and let's remember that if this meeting, we heard russia basically be urged by the states to withdraw troops from its own soil. quite a situation. now the helicopters that the u. s. a is providing these helicopters are actually already in ukraine for maintenance. they're from the now defunct afghan army, and apparently the united states is going ahead and providing these military

helicopters to ukraine. now it's also important to be aware of the fact that 3 baltic states, estonia, latvia and lithuania, have announced that they will be supplying lethal weapons to ukraine. this includes javelin, anti tank guided missiles. they're going to be providing those to the ukraine. they'll be providing them with us, support us approval. it's tonia nazi, and the few ania and the allies of working together expeditiously to hand over security assistance to ukraine. this aid will further enhance ukraine's capability to defend its territory and population in case of possible russian aggression. but there is quite a rare among the united states and its allies. here we have germany, a long time important nato ally of the united states saying that they will not be allowing permits for the transport of weapons. there are estonian weapons based in harmony and they won't allow them to be transported to ukraine. and we actually

have the chancellor of germany speaking up in san germany does not approve of the sending of lethal weapons to ukraine. the federal government has had a clear stance regarding arms exports in recent years. we have not supported the export of lethal weapons from germany. now moscow still expects that the security concerns that they raise with washington should be addressed. but these current moves from the united states increasing military escalation, are certainly not using tensions. a formal us marine corps intelligence officer says the white house is bowing to domestic political by ramping up russia attention . if you don't send lethal weapons in the united states. that opens up joe biden to criticism from congress at a time when he needs congressional support for domestic programs. so you know where, where we're seeing here is the consequences of allowing your foreign policy, your national security policy to be hijacked by domestic little the fact that tony

blank in his meeting with the lab, rob, to discuss a diplomatic off ramp of for the car crisis at the same time, the united states is green lighting of the delivery of weapons for the sole purpose of killing russians, because you don't have deterrence unless you have a real capability, it's totally counterproductive and it undermines the american position when they say, hey, you know, we won't allow nato to join for, for years. you don't need to worry about what's the difference between a ukraine, this a member of nato receiving western military and are ukraine, who's not a member of nato receiving western military from the rest your perspective, there is no difference ahead of the talk to the state department has outlined what it science is, examples of russian disinformation and the report at present since opinions a solid thanks. it was published just a couple of hours before the talks rush. his foreign minister was critical of both the content and it finding it's you my, you thought it was

a deposit these documents which the u. s. state department has of course prepare deliberately for today's meeting. a simply impossible to read. it's enough to scroll through a couple of random pages to be sure, none of the provisions stand up to any critical analysis. in many cases, it is simply a lie. while among a dubious claims in the report is that nato is not encircling russia with its military bases. it argues rather, that the real problem is russia is just too big a country with moral that story is more aggressive. while over the past 24 hours, washington has launch something of a of a p r offensive, or they, they've come out. and they've said that virtually are all the security concerns that russia has talked and talked about for 10 years for even longer than a decade. that all of that ease ease fiction, they've come up with, with the least the various things that russia has said that russia feels uncomfortable about all concerned about and explain why those points shouldn't be

taken seriously. fiction rushes, deployment of combat forces is a mirror position of troops on its own. territory fact deployed more than a $100000.00 russian troops, including battle hard uncovered forces and offensive weaponry. with no plausible innocuous explanation to the borders of a country that russia has previously invaded and still occupied, in places is no mere troop rotation. it is a clear renew to russia, threats to ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity. there is, of course, no mention of the fact that the russ and true buildup happened concurrently with the ukrainian to build up with the vase convoys of tags of artillery thesis, making their way towards the russian border towards eastern ukraine and the conflict lines. the conflict lines there, and the gist of that statement, for example, is that the united states is concerned with the russian troops moving inside russia . whereas, russia's concern with troop from florida from march,

canada being sent half the world away, and stationed near russia, says who you can understand where rushes coming from here. but there's a, there's a whole lot more where that came from. there are passages full of inhuman falls hit and stupidity, for example, they call fake moscow statement that the repositioning of russian troops and russian territory means repositioning of russian troops on russian territory. brilliant. what is there more hair lies or illiteracy? i do not even want to deal with it. i know one thing for sure. this could only be published by the ministry of truth. a similar situation would be russia coming out and hysterically condemning a united states to build up in texas for example. there was, there were many other points such as another one, a fiction, a russian fiction is that nato is surrounding washer. and here they argue that,

that, no, it isn't. russia's a huge country with, with $1414.00 neighbors that a chairs, land border women, and only father those a native states. well, if we look back 20 years, there was only one. then there were 3, then there were 5, and now with the essential potential ascension of, of george and ukraine in the future. right, about half of russia's landber's neighbors would be nato member states. so how can, how can you argue that nato isn't surrounding russia when, when you have the numbers right there, there was also another, another russian fiction, the new wouldn't promised russia that nater wouldn't expand eastwards. this is, this is an outright lie. this is an in c, i a state department than european archives that yes they did. it's in writing and a cia archives for example. then director of the cia director robert gates said that gorbachev's had been promised,

had been led to believe that they wouldn't expand this with you had the james baker, the state department, the head of the state department, secretary of state, back then as 3 times telling gorbachev's that they, they wouldn't move one inch eastwood. you had a vendor of the then west german foreign minister asked either ginger, saying that nato shouldn't expand east that given assurances to russia than the usaa. the in the event of germany, re unifying that native wooden movies. you have this in writing in rising liza archived memos, cables. nevertheless, there's this, as i say, much more in that least of rush infections, which a lot of questions about and itself has also become the target of washington's accusations. with the u. s. state apalmer alleging the channel and follow news outlets. sport, thank you. this informations would want to criminal foreign policy. what reaction

from aussie host and for british m. p. join got away. the timing on the launch of this report is naked lay sign that that's part of our new propaganda offensive. but i have had the unpleasant task of reading all 33 pages of it, of the people that have lied to us over and over again. i'm now lying to us about ukraine and russia. there's market for it. there is an audience for it, but fewer and fewer people are believing these lies than ever before. thanks to the existence of our teeth, the existence of social media. people can find out the truth just with letting their fingers do the walking. more and more of them are us how speak nancy pelosi has been accused of a cynical you turn off issue back to back on stock market trading. well only

because that's just part of family topping the list of democrats, profiting from the much criticized practice critic. so note, she's hoping to divert drawing angle officials profiting from insider trading by demanding that supreme court members are also banned from trading stocks. to give a blanket attitude, if we can't do this and we can't do that because we can't be trusted, i just don't buy into that. but if members want to do that, i'm ok with that. if we're saying everybody should be living by the same standard, then lead, so be it. that's okay with me. but i don't think that the court should be let off the hook. so i say when we go forward with anything, let's take the supreme court with us to have disclosure. pelosi husband paul pocket had more than $5000000.00 from a timely bat on google parent company. just before house use lation, seen as soft on big sect was passed, nancy pelosi spokesperson insisted she had no knowledge of the transactions, but her husband's investment judgment has proven so uncanny over the years that

money trade is simply copy his picks to maximize profits. well now to senate democrats have proposed a bill to ban sitting members of congress from stock trading. it's oral director of the reaction we times new site says pelosi might publicly back the ban. but politicians, a lot car will never pass that. i just lation. i'm a fan of this proposed legislation. nancy pelosi herself is kind of flip flopped in been on both sides of this. i think it's because you know to the politicians and people are right now in favor of this new legislation. all these politicians can beat their child and say that this is a good idea of what they come down to the floor. they're never going to vote for it is completely unethical for members of congress to use the inside baseball that they have as if we'd be ignorant, you know, and bullish to not believe that they're not using the inside information that they already have to go ahead and profit on the stock market, members of congress have

a direct effect on regulation and which companies get the certain regulations which industry kind of get a push from the government and a little government subsidy asian. so you can kind of play the crystal wall. busy in terms of the stock market, congress members have joined the public to blast the us internal revenue service is new demand to use a 3rd party facial recognition for tax returns with one congressman warning this is america, not china. the r s insist the idea dot mia is secure and won't be required for all services. facts by as i point out, clear potential for abuse and unsanctioned sharing with other government agencies. breaking the i r s are now trying to require facial recognition to view your tax returns. this is america, not china. do you mean there is a problem with id theft for tax returns, but not for voting ballots?

thank you senator. especially given what we know about the i r s ability to share data with other federal agencies. i see the f, b i, d, e, a, etc. this is essentially creating mandated us government facial recognition database that will inevitably be abused. band facial recognition. the host of the politics, politics, politics, podcasts, the list, the ra has a warring record when it comes to data protection. the iris has had a problem and it's been a very, very serious problem in terms of data theft. and it was way too easy to access somebody's backpacks is that essentially gives away the golden goose in terms of somebody being able to impersonate you on line. so the federal government has already done an extraordinarily poor job of securing our data, whether id me remains a top to your vendor for which maintains their relationships with both states and

federal government. that is something that, again, we do need to make sure that we keep a vigilant eye on. but as for assurances, look, this is the internet. it is a dirty place and people can get pretty much whatever they want. if you are insecure and many of us are us, asian regulators have been forced to rush through new airport learning technology off the top outlines warned of a catastrophe from interference by new funds. mobile networks of the ad on both is said, 5 g networks, ground planes, the federal aviation ministration approved new to me this, that allow landings in low visibility conditions, major flood carriers from british allies to look hands. i had already change or cancel flights over the issue. because the proposed 5 g deployment involves a new combination of power levels, frequencies proximity to flight operations, and other factors. the f a will need to impose restrictions on flight operations

using certain types of radar al to meet or equipment close to antennas in 5 g networks. us pot jason, tony says this, you is a huge worry for the aviation community. the asian community thinks this is a huge problem basically because there is a potential degradation of safety if we're not confident that we can fly in a safe environment we want. and so it's going to lead to more cancellations than we've already seen. 5, g is, is a lot of different countries around the world has already been implemented in and around airports. the difference that we're seeing in the international part is that the 5 g internals are at different angles and using different power levels. and they do in the united states. and so when they're being turned on in the united states they're, that's what's causing this interference. a new report is claimed, former pope benedict, the 16 failed to take action in full cases of alleged sexual abuse. while he was

serving as archbishop of the german cities of munich and pricing, the study on german law firm looked into cases of abuse between 19452019. and how church officials handle the, according to the report over 2 thirds of people investigated, turned out to be priests. and the report also said the former pope suggested or supported this latest inquiry, but denied to any wrong doing. we spoke with wilfred fossil man who says he was a victim of sex abuse by the clergy during that period. he told us what he went through. that's why someone it happened in the summer of 979. i was 11 years old back then pastor act served as st. andrews church and when he left us and groups of people started attacking me, they knew i was one of the reasons he left. we moved to another district of the town and in 1999, i began to be affected by my experiences. i could not work. i had dizziness. i could not drive or simply go out of the house. my whole family was suffering

because of that. i started visiting doctors to find out what the problem was. and finally i got to see a psychotherapist. i told him the whole story and he said i had been through a really traumatic experience that triggered memories of all the abuse i had experienced. when i saw the pastor munich, he was standing among other pastor, smiling. i told myself, listen paraphilias disease. so he'll most likely keep going. he did. well, it isn't the 1st time senior catholic clergyman have been under fire over sexual abuse. numerous other cases have been reported and other german cities, as well as ireland and france will for the 1st one again says that off is letter poke benedict, did change punishment guidelines for pleasure, guilty of sex offences, but also said it's taken too long for that to happen when wi fi works fine in 2006 in 2008. i sent an nautilus emails to the munich diocese. i wrote about my experiences with pastor acts when he was in s, and they ignored my letter in 2006. so i try it again in 2008 when abuse victims

were demanded compensation for the 1st time. they then describe my letter as criminal blackmail, but it's clear that i hadn't been blackmailing the church. those officials who came to me realized i was a victim right away. they also realized they themselves had been used by the church . they were simply fooled by it. i was 1st of all concerned about justice because the pastor just went to another place when i was writing the letter. it was important to me to protect others and may 2010. i wrote to pope benedict. i told him my whole story on may 21st. i got a response saying the pope would take care of it and he really did. but as we have seen, it took 2530 years for a victim to open up and start talking about it. for a half years after lunch deadly dreadful fire tragedy fears of a repeat of emerged among the public. some plans to build a new high rise in the area with yet again, only one set of far escape stairs for the residence. ought he shoddy and was dusty has let himself in the shadows of the grunfeld power. the tragedy that came the lives of 72 plans are in place to build a new skyscraper,

twice the high and just to see me away. despite the public inquiry concluding the safety policy also grunfeld tower failed. this new building is set to adhere to that failed policy, including the requirement for just a single escape staircase. we would, he knows that single staircase christine cases are difficult to use for fire fighting and escape at the same time. the whole situation is that the every become very crowded. you have to have a skype roots on the exterior of the building because they could be natural eventually it. the proposed high rise is designed to accommodate hundreds of households and would adopt similar policy neville to care last 5 members of his family on the 14th of june 2017. and that night residents were told to stay pert. i'm very concerned the fact that it's once the case of staples is also

destroying to include slate poor. why haven't they still learnt or from the previous, you know, do we want to go straight to planning and make it and then learn from our mistakes . we shouldn't do though. the government is currently reviewing the provision of escape routes and building regulations. while the local council insists resident safety comes 1st. the safety of our residence as our number one priority. we took a tough line with developers to ensure that anything they build is fully compliant with all safety and other regulations as a minimum and that local people are fully consulted. we are aware of this development and we will be providing a response to the planning consultation. while new homes can no longer be caught in combustible material like that, which calls flames to shoot up the grunfeld tower. the government is still yet to remove cutting from thousands of tar blocks in the u. k. and unlikely to do so before 2025. the survivors and the bereaved erecting another high rise building

while lessons haven't been learned, is unforgivable. we still haven't finished with the inquiry so, so the proposal to be given or even new laws or recommendations or whatever it is, it's like is if we carry non profits before lives and that this can't happen when will they ever learn the still nothing has been learned they say lightning doesn't strike twice, but is this really the place to build a tower and with questionable safety precautions as the community is still in morning and awaiting justice charge, edwards dusty archie london cross. so getting away in just a few moments time that he, when i all back in half an hour with the very latest headlines to join us again and then on our team trashed ah, and move it all. you move of the simplest possible form i was in got started and

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hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . on this addition to the program, we discussed the ongoing nato, russia pensions. we ask, what is nato strategy also, what is russia's strategy dealing with nato eastward expansion, and what are the likely outcomes for both cross sucking nato russia tensions i'm joined by my guess, charl shoe bridge in london. he's a security analyst and former u. k. army an counterterrorism intelligence officer in washington, we have michael maloof. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, and here in moscow we have alexi. now, he is an expert at the russian council on international affairs as well as chief editor at r t t dot com, all right, general and cross our rules and effect that music and jumping and.