this is probably one of the most distorted stories i can ever remember. i mean, 1st of all, if you look at the russian laws who were said to be the aggressors and about a 1000000 bait, russian troops are actually in russia. ah, u. s. miss isles, surround, ah, russia and british troops on the borders of russia, nato troops, or on the borders of russia. nato troops surround russia from slovenia all away down. so the, the aggression, the potential aggression appears to be almost certainly on one side. but it's, it's never a quarter that way. and, and that's why propaganda is so important to my work. we've heard nothing but propaganda or russia about to invade it, go straight back to the old cold war when the russians were coming. and of course,

they weren't coming, as we now know from all what classified material the russians had no serious intention of invading western europe. and yet that was the propaganda all the way through it to make any sense from their point of view. this doesn't make any sense from their point of view now. well they b b c with sure. you're right. as sort of it being attacked this week about the funding it way by the government to through. it's curious, a mechanism that that doesn't seem to have happened actually arguably we me see say it is committed to achieving do it, but she ality and all of that. but the commitment is one of the mental to our reputation of values. and the trust of audience is you don't think b b c journalist would similarly allow china, save it, add bases in mexico and russian bases in canada. for them to say, look, the united states has to change where its troops are within the united states. no start to record version that you just read out loud as it always

was a good laugh among those who actually take the trouble to construct a new. unfortunately, most people haven't got time to do that. and so the bbc has an entirely false reputation of objectivity. there's no object. typically b, b, c represents r, r, produce imperial foreign policy. it brighter, it's doing it a moment with the so called a russian regression in ukraine on domestic policies. we were to learn my, my bill. i'm 2012 and last year, which affected li are so self out of privatization of the national health firms, the bbc, bailey report. and these bills have

a critical effect on almost every one of this country. i want when, during factual time when one of our advisors advised her to privatize the great public institutions b and a chest by stealth, that is what is happening now. none of that, none of that is, is given to the bbc's. millions appearance are, as it really is, are the, the headlines represent her own superficial changes and the house service. and the same, the same is true when the media were like austerity news, media, austerity. what does that really mean? it's the impoverishment of millions of people. and that's what has happened in this

country. i mean, it's interesting that there has been effectively and i said, i use this expression an opposite as an accurate description. there has been a class war in this country against the people. the majority of people are who cannot keep up with the, or the kind of group policies, neo liberal policies, but have been imposed on them ruthlessly. none of their, we have no real perspective of the political meaning of us farrah t even the, the human made me. i stared tea in terms of the numbers of people who are being one whose lives are being abandoned. every time that the transfer of the chicago stands in front of the chair, the dispatch box on the these, these are serious failures on behalf of the media, though. no,

the more cervical would say, and i think probably correctly, they're not failures because there is the media role to present her power from the top down never from the ground up. well, if philosophically that is just meritocracy is considered by those journalists and policy makers in those in power, i will return to foreign policy in the 2nd. but there were, these are almost hidden announcements about further privatization beyond your film . on the n h. s, which people can watch. i mean, you believe that the lady counting of a covert positive old people and again, holmes 28000 dead. maybe it was they were killed. and that the, i mean, we're now here with numbers approaching, i mean it's debated how many people were killed by cove it in this country. but it

seems to be more than those killed by the policies of bailing out the city of london after the financial crash. 20 wait for interesting, you know, distinguish academics. i professor dan, a dollar oxford. can i talk about the 10s of thousands of people who have died as a result of the asperity policy and the the people at amnesty an organization really not given very much to i think her seriously undermining our stays, our government or power. i was in, i think, 2020 but the 3rd and last year came out with a study which shows that something like 28100 people, mainly elderly people. sick people had been expelled effectively from the national

health service into care homes where they die now. ah, it wasn't i who wrote up the turn state murder. it was another study that came up and you know, we, the, the number of law that have been lost because of the, the cows. it's wrong to say carelessness because it is being callous, either logical and driven. and that is reaffirm by johnson's announcement this week. but on january the 26 is so called plan b would n, and the all restrictions will be all. and those who don't wear masks will not be we're legally required to do so. i and you have virtually traveling

petri dish of, of covert. i'm, unless we're, we're all going to for when to, i'm the fanatical area when people say the covert is no different from the flu, but that's in fact what the prime minister of this country is saying. he says he's saying we can now regard it as an epidemic. like there are flu academics, but i go to very close friend of the moment who is in hospital. so he's a man at his seventy's are and i'm worried about it because his condition has been has been to terry aging for some time is fully violated. he has a booster and i guess he just unlucky, but he's picked out but don't are there. so how often is this going to happen? you know, tell his family that he has the flu,

but that's what johnson is telling the country. it's an extraordinary, it's like, it's like you're jennifer speaking, not a prime minister, but always watch what we sacrifice. even those younger and center and many of those actually die from, from this thing. but those who fall will will fall ill with those even to play. if they recover from. ah, it's, it's uncertain whether it will be serious. it will go on to being something else, but where to accept all that where to accept but no longer is how cynical markets bound to ask people to wear a mask. i should say the london government claims that actually they will have jurisdiction over some of the transport, obviously, bars johnson's government. and would categorically deny as states and murder as

a reason you. i mean, and if anyone thinks you are a big hawk for those wanting locked downs, that hasn't been true, john, i'll stop you there more from the legendary jonas and he'll make a john pilcher after this break. ah yes ma'am. oh, oh, risky, in fact will at least the typical there's only 9 but already a university. students that away lance national world. if that was a new month's appointment, let's see. yep. you've got the was restored to deal with multiple with just so the law is mother. if

somebody is quoted yahoo chose that. he may come from no recalls. he really shows control such programs. now bush like nebraska of course with level your special. i was the yeah my but i just have a great and of course to get what so at the opposed to get on the she was in your mind, it was i'm doing that with sue, lose with his teacher was also a good time. oh, when i was showing wrong, when i just don't move any world just to see how this thing becomes the advocate and engagement. because the trail when so many find themselves worlds apart,

we choose to look for common ground. there may, may, we should all be mayor, may, we should all be angry because of what's going on, right. can't understand united states history and the role that slavery plate was already a very formal institution. by the time united states became a nation, it actually the find the nation. the rise of capitalism is clearly on the backs of flight and the slave down. if you had investigated lynching city, great extent. you can't believe that really him, the country and country still stands in brick. i'm from the south. everybody know, know what this thing to some extent. i would argue that we're still fighting the civil war and the south is winning.

mm. welcome back. i'm still here with the filmmaker and legendary journalist john pilcher. do you think this change your policy about suddenly freeing up the old of britain and just saying, allowing things to take. that course is, is a political decision based on his own desire for political power rather than on medical evidence, which i have to say hasn't properly been produced. arguably, this man who appears to treat a the political body politic. and burton the like the, the common room that he's in college and everything is kind of a bleak laugh. ah. and so we're saying we now have concrete over the parties have been going on in downings free right. through the worst of the, the covert pandemic in this country, while people were,

are, or bearing loved ones couldn't go to their funerals. people couldn't get married. elderly people were ha, ah, were on their own, couldn't be visited in care. meanwhile, as being party time in, in johnson's domain and down it freight, ah, i mean that's a truce now for prime minister allows that to happen. ah, what else will he allow to happen when he, he is now throwing away, abandoning the most basic restrictions. i mean, i don't agree with lot downs, but basic restriction such as wearing masks, social distance thing, being careful of others, common sense, but often common sense has to be legally enforced or law legally require. he's throwing all that away is solely responsible, irresponsible as

a pointless words worse than that. well, his opposite numbers here, scammer also pictured. it should be said, although he similarly said that it wasn't a breach of the rules as opposite number care, scarce dharma, now, leading in the polls, of course, says he would have preferred to be talking about russia than johnson's a alleged parties. what do you see as her, as this sir? prevalent view, now that a war is inevitable, as it were, even while the rest of the world sees this is not really about the protection of ordinary ukrainians. why not? sanctions against saudi arabia of human rights abuses, for instance, is being presented to the human rights issue that we need to protect ukraine from russia. what you just said, the whole risk of war and war with the 2nd biggest

nuclear hom power on earth. ah, the whole cost of military up there, i don't know whether it's shenadra cooper or not. certainly sorry to look like that . but the possibility, the fact that there is not an issue or an issue before the country with all the the ramifications with all the r ah, the components all spelled out to people. so that they understand exactly what's happening . so that they understand that a section that has led to this and all was all certainly all major was have started following to sections. we don't have to go back far. ah, the invasion of iraq was based on a major to section ally. and if there is any kind of war with russia

over you cray, or really over its riot to defend its borders, the very same borders for which hitler stormed, ah, in the 1940s, whether it has that right or not, ah, there's no, there's no discourse is no dialogue about there is between us a bit wider on the media. there isn't. it's a terribly dangerous time. and did this danger carson's the danger, which is almost like a movable face for when go to china. her, because anybody really studies the so called foreign policies of the united states and its allies, pro vassals, such as the united kingdom, will know that an enemy is essential. whether or not there are an enemy is beside

the point. they're not as though there's no real ana, u. k, in the world. and there's no real animation united states, but an enemy is needed. so we'll move from russia to china. we, we really have to understand, but we have to understand the, the profound sentences, the works in geo politics is not a sort of academic guy. is something a large, and we have the right to comprehend. and you know, ordinary people whose lives it's filled with all sorts of things, also have the right to understand it. beyond headlines live only one side, one and a lead. still know that it, it works that imperial idea but relies on propaganda the threat from the other. they have to minimize, i don't know. the as off battalion now integrated in the ukrainian army with its

views about hitler and against jews. and of course the, the idea that china brought 800000000 people out of poverty. these ideas, they're not allowed to be put on media in nato nations, as, as a matter of course, me, who knows this, among those who boat as i read in san polio, the day, one of the most popular peak on the world today is barack obama. there was barack obama, who affectively ah, overthrew the elected government in ukraine in 2014, and allowed it to be replaced with her and anti russian aggressive regime that came as a result of on obama's people. is vice president biden. her one of a senior, our secretary's victorian newland,

the all part of actually a conspiracy which i think it was new and said the price fe garner was $5000000.00. we got the right. we got the government ukraine church that has brought nato, you worst, the u. k. right up to the border of russia. imagine the reverse. imagine the russians are rather a russian presence right up to the canadian border with the united states or the mexican border. is that, is that it's the refusal to understand, to reverse such to put our souls in the position of a country that last i don't think it was 20 or 1000000 people in the 2nd world war, the history,

whoever's in charlotte and in russia. that's been my experience of being in russia and in the soviet union. but history is like a preference. it is in some his home influences almost every history has no presence in the united states. ah, it's a kind of a permanent allusion. it does in this country which makes the cynicism even more rather desperate in the united kingdom that should go along with these dangerous, as well as renewed interest apparently in russian or chinese, a placement of facilities in cuba in nicaragua, in other places, i should say that obviously, when it comes to history of the nato think tanks, the one here in rooting says there was no deal on guaranteeing a ukraine not being bought of nato, the national security archive. people can look it up. apparently there were

agreements but not official treaties of people go watch their victoria newland liter fogel on line. i've got to get to the person that illuminated so much of this for so much or of the world. julian mishondra wiki leeks, who according to the u. n. has been tortured here in london and who is detained just very briefly because i know it's law affair, according to his defenders. is julian isn't going to be freed, or is he going to be effectively killed in the united states? i can answer that directly and it gives me the shivers even to make the choice. frankly, it doesn't look hopeful at the moment, obviously. but just before we began this interview, i checked with julian's lawyers, whether they had heard, if the high court, the high court was going to effectively allow an appeal out of the supreme court, or whether we'll go back to the lower court. so what we're looking at,

i think over the next year or so is a more hearings in this country. ah, it will almost certainly go back to the lower court and, and julian's defense team will appeal on all the issues that the district john's day. and i didn't accept and that will go all the way up to the high court again. it's, it's like a slew long torture. it's quite to pray you know, if to pray the whole persecution while the whole prosecution of julia in the south and her 1917 espionage act in the united states. when it's clear to everybody who understands anything about the case. so the whole thing has been due balance about shopping up journalist who do they draw with

implications, therefore, for the editors of the guardian lamb on the new york times. and all those that collaborated with liquid helix oversee joe biden. cosmo high tech tech terrorists, irregular pentagon released their own video of civilians being killed by a u. s. joint strike in afghanistan as they left her a bit like the collateral murder one. i know just depending in our leasing things a bit like wiki leeks, but of course as part of the campaign to defend him, direct action is being talked about in defense of him, given the policy nature of the all legal process. what did you think of what he saw? a jury acquit those who clearly vandalized the statue of edward colston lee, a british slave trader, celebrated in bristol port assigned their dead direct action, and juries can destroy power in this country. after all. that's the good news. that

is the good news and you know, the colston ah, the coast from decision which was justice by a jury and the difference between endurance and, ah, a judicial system that allows somebody like julian town, possibly probably to be expedited is sort of some moral or searching dislike people themselves, the jewish talk a moral view and they've been a whole i there been a whole literally of, of jury pictures. it goes back to 11 that i was in her in the mid ninety's when a group called ploughshares, women broke in to a british aerospace or arms factory where they were manufacturing the hawk aircraft in lancashire. then bruton had just done a 500000000 on deal with in the leisure to supplier with 4 k ultra, which

a claim for training. in fact, the whole k truck and i saw the results of this in east timor were strafing. and, and bombing on elizabeth auto and corbin may have, well, ah, the, the, the jury in this, of course, found from them the reason the women are broken into the a factory and vandalize, at least one of the aircraft was to prevention was a quarter, and they defense to prevent genocide and the jury agree that was a moral decision. and we say the same with extinction roberto with anti war protesters. people who have gone past the bbc view politics pass westminster,

who carry with all week responsibility of, of great issues. ah, get enormous support. all right, well, we'll have to get you on to talk about the police bill to the curb protest, of course, in this country. but people can watch death of a nation. the documentary you did, which was used in evidence in that trial on your website, john build your thank you and that's it for the show will be back on monday, 5 years to the day, the president, donald trump, would you the us from the proposed trans pacific partnership agreement, the never came to me in 3 years since the trump administration officially recognized the elected. boris johnson supported venezuelan opposition leader. one great owes the country president did bill then keep in touch by ola social media and let us know if you think you are free to protest in your country. ah,

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because there's nothing in the, in the playbook for of mainstream media to explain in place. because they've been told for 20 years now that there is no inflation, that there's only deflation and the need to keep printing money to stop the prod, the possibility of, of, of a deflationary spiral. a gothic go farther up on this particular coordinate, the debrief you could call them and push and push it if i heard of it, but i just somebody somebody from a few minutes. i thought it was 3 to what i still love with it at the bar. i books on the back with me and boom, here's for very few believe about will give you hope, all right from or you will be with you or if you this last hour a you well, thank you, but here for a little of, for

a pretty weaker lia, from a brush up production for the numbers of the recently notified or intense deliver, and 17 helicopters off. the latest round of de escalation talks, the u. s. joined other member states and ramping up to supplies the weapons. but tells russia to pull back a phone tree from its border with ukraine. also this rallies again, coded restrictions, breaking across europe with anger in front of acting mandate and across the channel in britain or protest against mandatory jap health work. plus the world health organization makes the stunning you turn, admit that international travel band to fail to stop the spread and it's not rec.