them after dancing, we're going underground. 24 hours of the u. s. secretary of state antony blinking, met with russian foreign minister, sergey lavern over ukraine in geneva, falling president jo biden's, threats against russia in a week of u. k. p. ambrose johnson, sending weapons to the former soviet nation. well, this is so called mainstream media declares johnson's premise ship. all that over after alleged corona virus restriction violations in the country with one of the highest cove death tolls in the world will who better to join me now for a special edition of the show from here in london is filmmaker and legendary journalist john pilcher. thanks john for coming back on the show. lots of cove it about. so he asked me remote this time, you know, one johnson critic said it to me like al capone being done for tax evasion. but headlines all over the world as you k p. m. birth johnson there apparently relaxing restrictions amongst the worst death numbers in western europe. sense troops to

ukraine. and there apparently is korea's over. what's your take on all of this hubbub here in westminster? well, it's just that is how bob around westminster political reporting in this country and, and, and the united states as low as is based around the parliament. if that narrow focus south of our parliament on spanner. i never understand what the choice why the tories are complaining about to be received, because if it was the baby, say all it does is record column up. so i'm reporting the wider issue. so what we've had in this country is saw i great taylor thought, ah, ah, anti johnson, the staff he deserves every bit of it, of course. but it's focused almost entirely on him. and on, understandably, on the scandals of cartesian downing street went down his faith was,

was telling the country to, to lock down. but, you know, always can, ah, earlier for sod, for serious war name, king. and that's what's happening in, ah, certainly in the ukraine at the moment. and it's is probably one of the most distorted stories i can ever remember. i mean, 1st of all, if you look at the russian was, who were said to be the aggressors and about a 1000000 bait. russian troops are actually in russia. ah, u. s. miss isles, surround, ah, russia and british troops on the borders of russia, nato troops, or on the borders of russia. nato troops surround russia from slovenia all away down. so the, the aggression,

the potential aggression appears to be almost certainly on one side. but it's, it's never a quarter that way. ah, and that's why propaganda is so important to my life. we've had nothing but propaganda or russia about to invade it, go straight back to the old cold war when the russians were coming. and of course, they weren't coming, as we now know from all what classified material the russians had no serious intention of invading western europe. and yet that was the propaganda all the way through it and make any sense from their point of view. this doesn't make any sense from their point of view now. well they, b, b c with sure, right? as sort of it being attacked this week about the funding it by the government to through. it's curious, a mechanism that that doesn't seem to have happened actually arguably we me see say it is committed to achieving do emerge ality and all of that. but the commitment is

fundamental to our reputation of values. and the trust of audience is you don't think b b c journalist would similarly allow china, save it, add bases in mexico and russian bases in canada for them to say, look, the united states has to change where its troops are within the united states. no, the status or to read or personally just read out loud as it always was a good laugh among those who actually take the trouble to construct a new unfortunately, most people haven't got time to do that. and so the bbc has an entirely false reputation of objectivity. there's no object. typically bbc represents, ah, no, produce imperial foreign policy. it doesn't ride through. it's doing it a moment or the so called

a russian regression in ukraine on domestic policies. we were to learn my, my bill. i'm 2012 and last year, which effectively a certain set out a privatization of the national health firms, the bbc bailey report. and these bills have a critical effect on almost every one of this country. ok. and what, when during factors time when one of our advisors advised her to privatize the great public institutions b and a chest by stealth? that is what was happening now. none of that, none of that is, is given to the b. b stays millions of years. are as it really is,

are the, the headlines represent her own superficial changes and the house service. and the same, the same is true when the media were like austerity news, media, austerity. what does that really mean? it means the impoverished bunch of millions of people, and that's what has happened in this country. i mean, it's interesting that there has been effectively and i said, i use this expression an opposite. but as an accurate description, there has been a class war in this country against the people that the majority of people are who cannot keep up with the or the kind of group policies, neo liberal policies, but have been imposed on them ruthlessly. none of their, we have no real perspective of the political meaning asperity.

even the, the human made me i stared t in terms of the numbers of people who are being on whose lives are being abandoned. every time that the transfer of the chicago stands in front of the check, the dispatch box on the these, these are serious failures on behalf of the media, though, though the more cynical would say, i think probably correctly, they're not failures because there is the media role to present a power from the top down never from the ground up. well if philosophically that is just meritocracy is considered by those journalists and policy makers in those in power, i will return to foreign policy in a 2nd. but there were, these are almost hidden announcements about further privatization beyond your film

. on the n h. s, which people can watch. i mean, you believe that the lady counting of a, a covert positive old people in dk homes 28000 dead. maybe it was that they were killed and that the, i mean we're now here with numbers approaching, i mean it's debated how many people were killed by cove it in this country. but it seems to be more than those killed by the policies of bailing out the city of london after the financial crash. 20 wait for interesting. you know, to stay in russia coordinates by professor dan a doorway. oxford. can i talk about the 10s of thousands of people who have died as a result of the asperity policy and the, the people at amnesty an organization really not given very much to,

i think are seriously undermining our status or government or power even. i was in, i think, 2020 but the 3rd and last year came out with a study which shows that something like 28100 people, mainly elderly people. sick people had been expelled effectively from the national health service into care homes where they die now. ah, it wasn't i who wrote up the turn state murder. it was another study that came up and you know, we, the number of law that have been lost because of the, the cow us. it's wrong to say carelessness because it is being callous,

either logical and driven. and that is reaffirm by johnson's announcement this week. but on january the 26 is so called plan b would end and the all restrictions will be yours. and those who don't wear masks will not be, were legally required to do so. i and you have a virtually traveling petri dish of, of covert. i'm, unless we're, we're all going to fall into i'm the fanatical area when people say the covert is no different from the flu, but that's in fact what the prime minister of this country is saying. he says he's saying we can now regard it as an academic life or a flu. academics. but i got a very close friend at the moment who is in hospital. so he's

a man at his seventy's are and i'm worried about it because his condition has been has been to terry, i think for some time he's fully violated. it has a booster and i guess he just unlucky, but he's picked up but don't over it. so how often is this going to happen? you know, tell his family that he has the flu, but that's what johnson is telling a country. it's an extraordinary, it's like, it's like you're jennifer speaking, not a prime minister, but always watch what we sacrifice. even those young burn center and many of those actually die from, from this thing. ok. but those who fall will will fall ill with those even if they, if they recover from, ah, it's,

it's uncertain whether it will be serious. it will go on to being something else, but where to accept all that where to accept but no longer is how simple markets bound to ask people to wear a mask. i should say the london government claims that actually they will have jurisdiction over some of the transport obviously bars. johnson's government are, would categorically deny as states that murder is a reason you, i mean, and if anyone thinks you are a big hawk for those who are wanting lock downs, that hasn't been true. john, i'll stop you there more from the legend rejoinder. if you'll make a john pilcher after this break ah ah

ah ah ah welcome back. i'm still here with the filmmaker and legendary journalist john pilcher. do you think this change your policy about suddenly freeing up the old of britain and just allowing things to take? that course is, is a political decision based on his own desire for political power rather than on

medical evidence which i have to say hasn't properly been produced. arguably, this man who appears to treat a the political body politic. and burton the, like the, the common rumor eaten calling ah, everything is kind of a bleak laugh. ah. and so we're saying we now have concrete over the parties have been going on in downing street right through the worst of the, the covert pandemic in this country. while people were, are bearing loved ones couldn't go to their funerals. people couldn't get married, or elderly people were ha, ah, were on their own, couldn't be visited in care. meanwhile, as being party type in,

in johnson's domain and down that street. ah me, that's a truce now for prime minister allows that to happen. and what else will he allow to happen when he, he is now are throwing away, abandoning the most basic restrictions. i mean, i don't agree with lockdown, but basically restriction such as wearing masks, social distance thing. being careful about those common sense, but often common sense has to be legally enforced or law legally required. he's throwing all that away, is solely responsible, irresponsible as a point was words worse than black. well, his opposite numbers against armor also pictured the rules his opposite number case against armor. now, leading in the polls, of course, says he would have preferred to be talking about russia than johnson's or alleged

parties. what do you see as her, as this her prevalent view? now that war is inevitable, as it were, even while the rest of the world. this is not really about the protection of ordinary ukrainians, am why not sanctions against saudi arabia of even right to be this, for instance, is being presented to the human rights issue that we need to protect ukraine from russia. what you just said, the whole risk of war and war with the 2nd biggest nuclear harm power on earth. ah, the whole possibility of that, i don't know whether shenadra cooper or not. certainly sorry to look like that. but the possibility, the fact that there is not an issue or an issue before the country with all the the ramifications with all b,

r ah, the components of it spelled out to people so that they understand exactly what's happening. so that they understand that a section that has led to this and all was all certainly all major worlds have started following to sections. we don't have to go back far. ah, the invasion of iraq was based on a major to section ally. and if there is any kind of war with russia over you cray, or really over it's rioted of standards borders, the very same borders for which hitler stormed, ah, in the 1940s, whether it has that right or not, ah, there's no, there's no discourse, there's no dialogue about there is between us. ah,

but wider on the media, there isn't. it's a terribly dangerous time. and in this danger, parsons, the danger which is almost like a movable feast. we'll then go to china. are because everybody really studies the so called foreign policies of the united states and its allies, throat vassals, such as the united kingdom, will know that an enemy is essential whether or not they're an enemy is beside the point. they're not as though there's no real n u k in the world. and there's no real enemies of the united states, but an enemy is needed. so we'll move from russia to china. we, we really have to understand, we have to understand the, the profound sentences, the works in g o college chicks. it's not

a sort of academic good. it is something that affects all our lives. and we have the right to comprehend. and you know, ordinary people whose lives it's filled with all sorts of things, also have the right to understand. beyond headlines this give only one side, one and elite still know that it works. that imperial idea but relies on propaganda the threat from the other. they have to minimize, i don't know, the as of battalion now integrated in the ukrainian army with its views about hitler and against jews. and of course the, the idea that china brought 800000000 people out of poverty. these ideas they're not allowed to be put on media in nato nations, is as a matter of course, me, who knows, among those who vote as i read in some poll in the day,

one of the most popular creek on the world today is barack obama. there was barack obama, who affected lady, ah, overthrew the elected government in ukraine in 2014, and allowed it to be replaced with her an anti russian aggressive regime that came as a result of her obama's people is vice president biden. her one of a senior, our secretaries victorian you on the all part of actually a conspiracy which i think it was newland. so the price fair got up was $5000000.00. we got the right. we got the government ukraine church that has brought later you worst, the u. k. right up to the border of russia. imagine the reverse. imagine

the russians are rather a russian presence. ride on to the canadian border with the united states or the mexican border. is there is that it's the refusal to understand the reverse search to put our souls in the position of a country that last i don't think it was 20 or 1000000 people in the 2nd world war, the history, whoever's in charge and in russia, that's been my experience of being in russia and in the soviet union, that history is like a preference into it. it inflows home influences almost everything. history has no presence in the united states. ah, it's a kind of

a permanent allusion. it does in this country which makes the cynicism even more rather desperate in the united kingdom that should go along with these dangerous, as well as renewed interest apparently in russian or chinese, a placement of facilities in cuba in nicaragua, in other places, i should say that obviously, when it comes to history of the nato think tanks, the one here in rooting says there was no deal on guaranteeing a ukraine not being bought of nato, the national security archive. people can look it up. apparently there were agreements but not official treaties of people go watch their victorian newland liter fogel on line. i've got to get to the person that illuminated so much of this for so much or of the world. julian hasanti of wiki leeks, who according to the u. n, has been tortured here in london and was detained just very briefly because i know it's law affair, according to his defenders. is julian isn't going to be freed,

or is he going to be effectively killed in the united states? i can answer that directly and it gives me the shivers even to make the choice. frankly, it doesn't look hopeful at the moment, obviously. but just before we began this interview, i checked with julian's lawyers, whether they had heard, if the high court, the high court was going to effectively allow an appeal out of the supreme court, or whether we'll go back to the lower court. so what we're looking at, i think over the next year or so is a more hearings in this country. ah, it will almost certainly go back to the lower court and, and julia's defense team will appeal on all the issues that the district john's day. and i didn't accept and that will go all the way up to the high court

again it's, it's like a slew long torture. it's quite to pray, you know, if to pray the whole persecution while the whole prosecution of julian herself and her a 1917 espionage act in the united states. when it's clear to everybody who understands a thing about the case that the whole thing has been dictated. that's about shutting up journalist who do they draw with, with implications, therefore, for the editors of the guardian lamb on the new york times. and all those that collaborated with liquid helix obviously terabyte cosmo high tech, a terrorist irregular pentagon release their own video of civilians being killed by a u. s. joint strike in afghanistan as they left her a bit like the collateral murder one. i noticed the bending in our leasing things

a bit like wiki leaks, but of course as part of the campaign to defend him, direct action is being talked about in defense of him given the policy nature of the o legal process. what did you think of what he saw? a jury acquit those who clearly vandalized the statue of edward colston, the british slave trader, celebrated in bristol port assigned that dead direct action, and juries can destroy power in this country. after all. that's the good news. that is the good news and you know, the colston ah colston decision which was just to aspire jury and the difference between endurance and, ah, a judicial system but allow somebody like julian song, possibly probably to be expedited is the moral or century dislike

people themselves. the jurors took a moral view and there's been a whole on there. there's been a whole literally of, of jury pictures. it goes back to 11 that i was in her in the mid ninety's when a group called ploughshares. women broke in to a british aerospace or arms factory where they were manufacturing the hawk aircraft in lancashire. then britain had just on 500000000 on deal within the leisure to supplier with 4 k ultra, which a claim for training. in fact, the whole k truck and i saw the results of this in east timor were strafing and, and bombing. alicia carter, i should lean may have well the, the, the jury in this of course,

found from them the reason the women are broken into the a factory and vandalize, at least one of the aircraft was to prevention was a quarter in the fence to prevent genocide and the jury agree that was a moral decision and we say the same with extinction. roberto with anti war protesters. people who have gone past the bbc view politics passed westminster, terry, with all the responsibility of, of great issues. ah, and get enormous or all wire world will have to get you on to talk about the police bill to the curb protest, of course, in this country. but people can watch death of a nation. the documentary you did, which was used in evidence in that trial on your website,

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