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ah ah on turn begins with me but it does not in there. it will not end until every terrorist group. a global reach has been found. stopped. and defi, ah, i think the last one, the warranty. so you know, empires and decline, resort to torture, and i think it gives them the illusion of mastery and dominance and control by torturing essentially we blind ourselves. but we could in fact, create
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a democratic society which actually has consistently valuable and effective techniques to fight terror. the fact that we don't is more an expression of our own anxieties and fears. mm. mm hm. so paul is his interrogation techniques used by us. officials were basically designed as techniques to break down the human mind and therefore also the body because they are very connected and leave note physical traces. it's an extremely destructive practice. torture on, of course, on those who receive this pain and suffering. but also on the sidey it becomes
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a society of cruelty. what we've done is we've not so much lost the war on torture as we've won the war on democracy. and that through terror rising a population over a period of decades said that there's nobody in this country, he didn't grow up with some booky man, some danger. first, it was communism. then it was terrorist for we are obviously engaged in many facets of what is generally called the cold war. rich, the communist policy is forced no doubt as the engage in any political activity or any intelligence there was not approved. at the highest level,
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there was a concern that emerged the 1st started cold war in the late 19 for that, the soviets had cracked the code of human consciousness. that they knew how to apply pressure upon the human mind and break the human mind. and it was that, that set off this whole pursuit that lead ultimately to the creation of the cio doctrine of psychological torture. this was a time of the brain washing scare. there were show trials in eastern europe, in hungary and poland, which aroused a lot of concern in the west because people seem to be confessing to crimes that they hadn't committed or mm.
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ah, most importantly was the trial of cardinal mines and sky and hungry. dusky was already in natural war 2 quite famous because he was known for having resisted the nazis and their occupation of hunger. and then after the war, he became the cardinal. and the primary of the church, they arrested him, they can find him, it was choose of being an aristocrat. it became a kind of target of that regime. and then he was put on trial, were publicly he confessed to the charges against him. and there was the sphere in washington, the prince of the church, in a carton, a man known for his courage, under nazi pressure. that if he could be broken clearly, the soviets work session of techniques. the c i a's reaction was primarily around what they thought was brainwashing the
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concerns with communist brainwashing. what they never seemed to realize was that these communist techniques were actually borrowed originally from earlier american techniques. in the 1920s in 1900 ten's, using sleep deprivation exhaustion exercises. all these other techniques were standard domestic policing tortures. they were also driven by 2nd concern. there was a moral panic in the 1950s that an american p o w is in korea. they confessed to things that were completely untrue and it didn't look like they had been talking during the korean more. what happened was that there were captain down american aviators, and there were around 30 pilots that a testimonies. there were 4 pilots that broadcast on radio base being alleging
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that the united states was using bacteriological warfare against the korean people after the armistice. when these pilots were released or brought back and they were put through court martials and they realize that they had been put through what was then called brain wash. if you describe the method used by the common with, oh yes, i would put these methods into to categorize physical torture. all the start and mental torture. it consisted mainly of standing at attention, having my face flap once in awhile and i did fail to respond as they wanted me to. it consisted of being confined in a very close area. the mental treatment which they gave was a start day designed to try to wear down my resistance to their interrogation to break my willpower to force me in some
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manner to confess. a mind control project starts in 1950. this was a project that involved a $1000000000.00 a year. there was a, a formal creation, a british american operation at the highest levels in order to mobilize the naval scientists. so these 3 countries, in order to kind of crack the code of human consciousness of medical doctors or cornell university medical school in new york city. they got access to some other more classified material on people that escaped from the soviet union and have been tortured in the survey in wolf was a very well known neurologist. he had a personal relationship with our as the head of the cia and with the human ecology
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of son, wolf offered to the cia, essentially a friends in order to study questions of brainwashing what they discovered. i was 11 of the 2 foundational techniques and the ca, doctrine of the psychological torture. they discovered a self inflicted pain. what they described in that, in their, in their co author article was that the most devastating technique that the k g, b, or then cavity practice was not crude, physical buildings. but simply making subjects stand immobile for hours and days at a time. if you force a human being to stay in a certain position, especially position that puts a little stress on ligaments or muscles or bones, joints. it doesn't take very long for the pain involved to become absolutely
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excruciating. but nobody slain figure finger on you. you are doing it to yourself. ah, that was one of the techniques, the over technique they discovered was from the, the biomedical research. there was dr. haves work. it was the chair of the psychology department, and mcgill university in canada. students volunteered to participate in the study of human behavior under extreme and prolong monotony. their hands and arms were softly covered to muffle a sense of touch, all harsh life subdued by a mass comfortable bell choir. and yet it was impossible for most of these students to take it for more than 24 or 48 sensory deprivation really is way of producing 3
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monopoly. it's horrible experience getting worse and worse somewhere. somebody talked about cruelty. what they said was that the degree of board of became intolerable and was once i'd be said as bad as anything you had to hitler had ever done to any of his son, teresa victims. as we know from almost any basic medical understanding human contact is what makes us human. and a let enables a person to have it a sense of normalcy in their lives. and when they are completely isolated from any human contact and often kept in this sensory isolation, you will literally easily become severely mentally impaired on that then they came okay, consult. she continued to work for them is really the progenitor,
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modern psychological torture on death. this project funded another guy, mcgill named dr. owen cameron. what you and cameron did at alamo, maryland city was, was close to monstrous. ah, i came in for psychotherapy. i was crying, crying cry was a hopeless. i didn't know what to expect. they said i was going to the psychiatric ward you met that on that day, cameron? that's you and cameron. yes, i met him and we were all was terrified of him. why? we also fear we all had a fear of him and we didn't want him to notice us because whatever he did, whenever there was a patient with them,
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the patient was always screaming ah ah, ah, is your media a reflection of reality? in the world transformed what will make you feel safe, isolation, whole community? are you going the right way or are you being led to somewhere? direct? what is true? what is great? in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. yes,
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yes. oh, looks great. in fact, will i? lisa typical. there is only 9 but already diversity. students that away on slash a new month appointment. let's see. yep. you got the last, there's dos padilla to get it. and i and noble choose a pepsi i think. so the reason i think is somebody is quoted, yahoo jumps the he may come from no recalls and he really shows control such programs. now brochure, nebraska and of course with them. well, your special, but i will the yeah my what i say the best way to get what the plan was to get up to him was in. it's not something that if i this is to www. that he was as much hello. i knew it with the soup with when you most of
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it will include you, produce teacher or was also reason is balise with it. ah these are the days and hours ah, the occasion professor, you and cameron was a very famous psychiatrist. he was head of the american psychiatric association and the world psychiatric association. he was the top of the field at the same time, he seemed pretty much willing to do anything. and the for the cia to find a doctor who didn't have limits in a nearby cap, but oh, with lots of patients to work with last is subs that subjects with somebody they
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were interested in supporting patients would come in, ah, oh, with ordinary psychological, emotional problems they sign their waivers and, and they would be subjected to this bizarre urging of extreme sensory deprivation, isolation for, for up to a month. one of his favorite things was he had a sort of a football helmet with a tape recorder in it. that would play a tape and look up to 500000 times sight things like my mother hates me and he would blit the brim with ropes enter deprivation and kind of psychological emotional assault. well, what's working? i mean it's garbage blue. ah oh, what he did was he would put people under massive electro shock and he would give
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it to the banner prolong basis along with what he called sleep therapy. his idea was, once you wipe the brain clean, you could wipe out the side of the ab a buried behavior. the bad ideas, the ideas who were messing up people's minds. and you could program in other ideas . electrical vasa therapy picked up and was widely used in germany before it went anywhere else as a way of returning soldiers to board. the german army wasn't going to spend tons of money on psychotherapy for regular soldiers. so they were looking for cheap and effective ways to send soldiers back to war. it then moves into the united states in the clinical note of march 23rd. 1962. confirms a 129. e. c. t. 's cameron's clinical notice september 12th recommend patterning and sleep. the clinical notes of october, 19th, november, 1st, november, 3rd,
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november, 8th, november 15, all confirmed the patterning and various stages myself to those that was falsely acting strange, right. my mother desire to have. i decided to have the bill to the and find out what was wrong. so i went to the our on a couple of months later and a bathroom have they charge the shock on me? i was allowed sir 6 months and this would repeat here over days and days and weeks and yeah, it's what you feel you have been through being good background. yes, i guess from when i say you in mariah and are different we're older or a somehow could be yeah well. 1 they don't finish the treatment for me. so when i
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came out, i was still active and so on. but they did. you went through 3 sessions of d patterning treatments. and when i asked you about things before you don't you remember, i could say if i ask you, what were you, what's the for you typing for the national defense, for instance, on rap? no. are there certain things in your memory that you just don't remember? oh, this 1st hospitalized i was about 1616 and a half. the doctors pushed me into a sleep therapy. and that was it for about 3 weeks in, in this sort of a deep sleep. but i don't remember getting up to go to the washroom. i don't, i just remember that the doctor came in occasionally to feed me and that was it. and then shortly after a while there was another patient that came in and she was an older one and she
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slept in the other bed. when i started to wake up, i've saw these patients and these patients were in tube, some of them they had earphones and headphones. i dont know if they did any of that to me because when i was the 1st 3 weeks, i don't know what happened. but this was d patterning. ah, the, she has doctrine of psychological torture that they develop through research in the decade, the 1950s, and was caught a fire in the bar counterintelligence interrogation manual. oh hm. mm mm. mm. as to basic turkey sandwich. all the rest of the procedures to run one is sensor deprivation. and the other is self inflicted pain. ah,
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the shiny and allied agencies in the techniques. so in effect, you know, knowing about, dissemination about is huge. send these techniques to other armies. could you take an ordinary individual like a graph, g, or recruit and make a person become an effective interrogate? and that seems that milligrams experiment was likely part of this project. when i learned of incidents such as the destruction of millions of men, women and children, perpetrated by the nazis in world war 2, how is it possible i asked myself that ordinary people were courteous and decent in everyday life? can i callously in you mainly without any limitations of conscience? under what conditions would a person obey authority,
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who commanded actions and went against conscience? these are exactly the questions that i wanted to investigate at your university. the mower experiment very simply was assimilated torture. this was one, not at all the research we've been describing is the impact of interrogation upon the subject. milgar had another agenda, the impact of interrogation upon the interrogator. if he were to indicate the wrong answer, you would say wrong. then tell him the number of rolls you're going to get him. then give him the punishment and read the correct word pair. once he got an ordinary people who fit by all the regular scale is very normal americans. and then he subjected them under false color to do to doing what he called an educational experiment in tried to encourage people to apply ever higher voltages as a false patient kept on getting,
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making mistakes. in fact, milgar was able to encourage, at least in his 1st experiments, i think close to 70 percent, to go on to apply highly dangerous and sometimes fatal shocks. i'm not going to get that man. they get their name is i want to learn or lice and not we must go on until you all refuse to take the responsibility and get that. all right. it's actually essential as you continue teaching. so many left here and i mean j go ahead get draw good as to when the last i mean i'm going to take the responsibility. if anything happens that i'm responsible for anything that happens here, continue and actually slow. wow, dance truck music answer. blaze
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wrong. i know 90 my votes dance. yes, he did this simply it with a very simple thing. putting the person behind the wall and having a person with a white lab coat, telling them that they needed to continue. very ordinary people can be influenced by situations. and it's one of the implications of both the milligram experiment is embargo. the stanford prison experiment was i think, a unique attempt to answer that question of what makes some people behave in good way. but what makes some people behaving
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a bad way. and so the idea was let's, let's find an evil place and prisons everywhere in the world are evil places. and let's fill this evil place with only good people. to get the students involved, i had convinced the palo alto police department to make mach arrest of all the students who were good 8 prisoners. and then they came down to the basement at stanford psychology department. the place where the prison study was done. the idea is prison is made to feel inferior, insignificant, worthless. the most important thing is you take away their name, they become a number. and of course, given they have smocks it with no under pans than behind is showing like my 1st hour in there. it was humiliating.
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that was also abrupt, was quick. it was just, you know, take them off, put this on. and then i got dusted with baking soda, which was supposed to be the d. lauser. and i was living in the cell. what some bardo did was a very cheap dark off of the kind of thing that milgram was doing. not always embargo, but i think, you know, the guard called john wayne believed that ethics don't matter if the environmentalists artificial and that's not true. all life is real life we needed to get tougher with the prisoners and it could well be that we were instructed by the experimenters to get over. in fact, i don't think we considered ourselves to be
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a subject of the experiment. we're merely a tool of the research to get the results they wanted from the real subjects, which we thought were the prisoners. and i decided to become the nastiest prison guard that i could make myself or i was responsible for coming up with all these routines that i would put the prisoners through where i'd have them stand and align, recite their numbers, do push up to do jumping jacks i had never once stop to think that these prisoners were suffering any harm or any damage. we're not, we're not beating anybody. we're just sort of applying psychological pressure on them. oh wow. yeah, i've been a harm's me. how did, how does it,
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how does that mean that people can be like, yeah, and let me in on some knowledge that, that i've never experienced firsthand. i read about it, i read a lot about it, but i've never experienced it. and i've never seen someone turn that way and i know you're a nice guy. you know, well, you and then what would you have that? i don't know. aah! l look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, accept where such order that conflict with the 1st law and, and just in case we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. and the point obviously is to create trust rather than fear with take on various jobs with artificial intelligence,
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