tv Going Underground RT January 26, 2022 9:30pm-10:01pm EST
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the, in the response, why do you think crescent addict, the head of the metropolitan police had to be persuaded by media reports to investigate what would otherwise have been there? what fine they supposed violating the corona virus restrictions? emotional increased a had a policy of only investigating and prosecuting where people were literally breaking the rules in front of their eyes. and that has simply not been sustainable when it comes to downing street because of the amount of media pressure. and frankly, the public outrage that people who have made the rules have been breaking the rules of old phrase in british politics. lawmakers must not be law breakers. i know myself and. 6 the reality is that that has come home to roost for boys johnson. i mean, i don't wanna go too long on this because obviously the energy supplies and the bills are going to be mounting up for britain's was vulnerable. but you walked into
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downing street many times as a cabinet minister, the, there's a policeman literally outside the building, guarding downing street. we surprised that so belatedly, the enquiry by a civil servant now internationally famous su gray. i think she's talked about in its national babies. that the only belatedly were the police then invited for interview about a possible criminal violation before the head of scotland yard then said okay, for as john is probably as to be questioned about this, it is of course, the case. the scotland yard is responsible for the protection of senior figures. tron terrace, incense or anything else. and therefore there is always, ah, a police presence at downing street. and you could argue they should have known about this all. ready along and, and the donnie street, of course, is covered as no such buildings would be by cameras. and yet nothing was reported the place. so it may just be internal. what we call chinese walls and the
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personal protection squads, or have a, a solid firm pledge of a murder to ah, that the people are protected and don't shop them to the rest of the police force, but it doesn't look good. and i think the embarrassment is mounted for crescent of des cannot in that accounts for the fact that there's been a u turn in the metropolitan places policy. and they are now looking at these events in retrospect now, it's a well known rule of politics. the famous wag the dog phrase about the clinton administration, that the politician in trouble will seek or other avenues and to distract from their situation. i should just say on corona virus were unlocked down here because apparently i tested positive one day, there are restrictions that being lifted. now, do you think there's a bullet is
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a zation of the corona virus restrictions themselves, the w h o? they're saying that they're, they're alarmed by johnson's go with the policies. do you think rather than medical evidence, this police investigation may be affecting the health of the nation or no, i don't. i think that the evidence on the number of people in intensive care and the number of people being admitted hospital coming down quite sharply. there have been enormous increases and under cases, but most of those cases are asymptomatic or they are people who are really showing no signs of symptoms. i think the call a late last year to a relax restrictions was more classical. but i think that actually, boys johnson got away with that. well, obviously, as we keep hearing from conservative politicians or johnson should actually be commended for the best vaccination record. and of course denies any element of code
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restrictions being politicized. but then arguably on the same day, i mean within the past 448 hours, what we hear is that the cabinet office and treasury minister resigns who's supposed to be responsible for counter fraud over a legit, 4000000000 of corona virus or procurement fraud or what would you make of, of that? i think it's quite inevitable that there was fraud when you dispense so much public money so quickly to keep business alive. and i think the minister who resigned was trying to flag up the treasury and others need to be rather tougher about pursuing these cases. and the may have been while the government denies or fraud. and obviously those being pursued at the moment, deny that they're involved in any fraud or you have to make a clear distinction between government for so it shows. ready no evidence and fraud by companies are often set up in order to claim cash from the government to get
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through the code crisis. fast is the fraud. while the minister said it was ignorant of incompetence rather than corruption is as you're suggesting. but then, i suppose i've got to ask whether the police inquiry may also be impacting on the government and taking their eye off the ball when it comes to energy bills, let alone ukraine, which i will get on to do you think they took their eye off the ball as a former energy secretary said yourself when it came to one after another energy company going bust in the past few months. well, there are 2 separate issues. so a lot so little energy suppliers. but when boss, because they weren't adequately capitalized for the job that they were doing. and because they did not put in place the source of hedging mechanisms on the financial markets, which would have allowed them to continue to supply energy that they had committed to supply. so that was a regulatory failure on the process off, jem,
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but i think you have to distinguish that situation very much from what's going on world markets for both gas and oil. and here we have a situation which is way outside the control, frankly, of any single state player. because we have a situation where gas and oil markets have been strengthening, tightening very, very rapidly over the last year. largely due to fundamental factors such as increased demand in the far east because of our hot summer and extra air conditioning demand. and because of cold winter, because you've had a whole series of of potential supply shocks with various suppliers coming off stream. and you've had a shortfall in northern europe, of, of wind electricity coming from wind turbines. so all of these are almost like
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a perfect storm. and i think that any government that thinks that it can control world gas and world oil prices is frankly behaving like the legendary no region. king canute who famously explained his quarters that he couldn't control everything by putting his throne down on the sea side and showing that it couldn't stop the tide. and i think that's the situation so and the government is going to be held to account. other gms will be held to account and the u. s. joe biden is very, very worried about rising oil prices because people blame governments even if governments have very little control of it. yes, yes, yes, but i mean in fans to king canute, he arguably had control over the resource. it's known as a natural monopoly. energy supplies were old enough to know when it was a nationalized under democratic control industry off jammed. the regulator
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obviously denies are wrong doing. what isn't this a case for just a bring it back under democratic control. nationalize is energy companies. so one company can hedge against those markets and can work with an internationally any, any company can be required by the, by off german officer should have required energy companies to hedge their positions. if they were committed to supplying gas or the particular price, then they need to be able to go into the gas market and secure those supplies in advance. if they don't, they are taking a massive gamble. the, the gas price is going to stay low enough. them to continue to make a profit, and what has happened over the last year is that it's gone up. as a result, they've been losing money, and some of them, as you've rightly pointed out of traps, they're avoiding rationalization context. man, nationalization i think, is a complete red herring. and absolutely no reason why a nationalized company would be any better position than competing companies. in
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fact, i think frankly, how many have experience of nationalized companies in the past when we did have this and having to. ready wait, for example, for weeks and months before you got a telephone. when you can walk in and just get one straight away. now i think the nationalization is very oversold as a benefit. okay, well, all the countries around the world watching this with their nationalized energy and telecoms. i suppose we'll have to take note, but i better ask you about the idea of cause of war in europe in the global south, obviously, in russia and china, the idea of a war in europe is even as a very improbable but a nation media is being regarded as imminent again and again the brink of war in europe. what impact would that have on the energy supplies in europe given that russia supplies, reputed 40 percent of european energy?
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let's not forget that. we've had a low level in easton ukraine, really since 2014, when the, depending on your description of what they are, the local separatists took control there on the only issue now is whether it is seriously escalated and if there is a serious escalation, then i would expect gas nor prices to rise very, very sharply. but i would also expect that russia would not benefit from that. because of course, what will happen is that the u. s. will attempt desperately to pump out as much l n g and as possible. and it has been involved in liquid now it could not liquefied natural gas. and it has been involved and talks with both in norway and gas in order to make sure that there would be extra supplies. it's a very big hole to fill because russia obviously supplies 40 percent of the gas in germany and similar proportions elsewhere. ready in the e u, but if that happens,
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then i think that it would be immensely damaging, obviously, if western europe in the short run, but in the long run, the people who would really suffer be russia. because if you get the reputation as an unreliable supplier, then people will never want to buy your roll materials again. so, and that would surprise me, frankly, because up until now russia has been a reliable supplier. it has not generally played politics with gas, oil supplies, and countries that do play politics with gas or oil supplies lose in the long run. chris, he and for the secretary said thank you after the break, as india's power rises as the asian continent, big enough for 2 superpowers, we investigate the future for india with a roger saba m. p. in india's ruling b, g party. all this i'm all coming up about to have going on the ground.
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ah, no one else seemed wrong when i was just a shape out disdain because of the african and engagement it was the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground lines have been drawn and positions made clear. after 2 weeks of high level talks, russia and nato, we main poles apart on how to define pan european security with moscow is presented its vision in writing while washington falls back on our cape cold war. felicia,
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it's an open secret that private military companies have been playing a role in arm conflicts. world wide. u. s. government doesn't track the number of contractors and uses in places iraq or afghanistan, the united states army and the military and general is so reliance on the private sector. i would call the dependency, but we don't know who's the on the ground presence of these companies overseas. we just don't out west and private military companies can in their turn use so called sub contractors from countries with trouble pass. the chances are quite good that they had also been child diligence processes. i was a child as a, as my job professional job is with the whole one food according to the fact that, that looked with no food, no minimum own wall,
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which i mean to be merciless killing machines. now they fight and die in other people's was people carol lot, when a dead soldier or dead marine shows up in this country and we start asking ourselves, why did they die? why, what were they fighting for? nobody bothers asked about their contractors. welcome back. as india celebrates republic day on it, 75th anniversary of independence from british colonial rule. that same imperial power has now come searching for trade deal with india. considering this reversal, what does the to hold for the country that is expected to be the 2nd largest economy in 2030, and has the current of ours, pandemic slow down india's rising power. joining me now from new delhi is india's former law and justice minister and ross of a m p in india's ruling b j. p potty, dr. romanian swami. thank you so much. jesse vermani for coming back on,
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i want to get to a recent events in a moment, but obviously you been tweeting a stream of information here. 11000000 followers on twitter, about net or g su bus bows. why have we never heard of this man, and who was this man? was day urine for different generation of their generation was contemporary in the forty's. i heard of nobody else, but him. he was a president of the congress body man who sacrifices of a flourishing career of being a civil servant and the top of service. one of the i c s. and he came, it was a freedom movement and he excited all the people. he had a theory that on these great in creating an organization, but his, i turn total non violence is not going to drive the british out. so he wanted
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a mixture. ah, there was a revolt in the congress party about that. and so he quit the congress party and then ultimately, ah, when the war was declared, the world war was declared. he went abroad. i 1st tried to persuade the soviet union to help him by then by then stalin had decided to make up with the western world. he broke his alliance with hitler, and so he ran from moscow to, to, to germany. and there he tried to persuade a hitler to i help him in is liberation of india. a ted lower seem to be more interested in the middle east. and also he thought that the indians need to be ruled and it shouldn't be given independence. and then he said, ok, put me on a submarine and send me to the indian ocean. and from there i'll go to japan. and
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that's why the, how he ended up when singapore and he created all an army out of those who had surrendered to the japanese. and the british, i'm from a british indian army. those b, lenny great, an army. he invaded india in the sense the cross the border. he captured some parts of mother on for the flag of india in the northeast stage. some india. and he was her, i mean, became a hero in india. i mean, i do want to skip along, but people can follow you to find out more about that. i should just say in passing that prince charles is the great mentor lord, my baton alleged killed by the i array that you you say that you say that it, it was an agent defact to him, his in a sense that killed gun v. ah. well,
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i don't say yes the, the assassin not, not my gandhi. in my opinion, i had the links or the or with mouse button, because his 1st attempt to assassinate mark on the, on the 28th of january. 1948 was a fiasco and internal molesting him and putting him in jail because it was clear us part right handed. he was let it go free. and then he comes back to new delhi on the 27th of january and then now and so did the assess the fires and gun the i don't know whether those will kill the gun or not. and there's a big, misty on that, that does it on the 30th i'm holding a online discussion on watches. yeah. how did the actually die? and of course mister, god says he was non did fire at point blank range or bullets. but how many more
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bullets you fired and all those are controversies, but it's quite clear that mr. gold saying would not have gotten it on the if it weren't for the complicity of mr. ma'am on button. ok. well obviously, i mean we covered on this show about her not to man. battens papers are still kept secret by the british government. this move on 75 years later you have more poor than the whole of sub saharan africa put together. you have a prime minister who had to back down finally after the largest strike in history. what did you make of these farm protests that ignited the poor and the consciousness of the poor all around the world? this was the pharma laws that were passed on. you can make a case that it was good reform, but the fact is that one part of india not the whole of the death one bothering there, namely print job and some sympathizers in the western stay western district. so you'll be,
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they were against the same because it affected the minimum support prices, there would be getting which they were getting at the very high rate. but job job was a very prosperous, a. our government and particularly the prime minister, was unnecessarily obstinate i had written to him and suggested that those states where the bees ruling you implemented there. because the constitution has made it very clear that agriculture is the sole business of the states and the center has no nothing to do with agriculture. how mr. moody brought in these amendments was by the back door because the taxes that are levied even on agriculture therein, by the center. so in the name on for reforming the tax collection i, he created this reform and the seeks or no mean characters they are
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fighters, therefore they're very hard to imagine. even mrs. gandhi was there, and they were didn't back down. and so ultimately, mr. moody had to wagner, but rather than a matter of a legislative minutia is arguably something philosophical about new liberal food policies. and actually this relates to your increasing comments against china, china, broad, 800000000 people out of poverty in the past. since the elements, where can you not see that these sorts of farming reforms as you call them, actually are the opposite of what china did and managed to use to policy that helped to feed hundreds of people? no, no. china abolished the can system, permitted the farmers who are not previously permitted to sell their own produce and if necessary, come to urban areas and sell them. yeah,
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i didn't allow foreign companies didn't allow foreign companies to come in to small farm holdings and take them over. i don't think that there has been a allowance for specifically foreign companies to come. what areas is that they? there was operation by which the indian plutocrats are the big business could come in. and those are things that were uncalled for and indeed of farms and i, i, my son objected to it. because when you say that no farmers need not sell it in the, in the, in the wholesale green market, they can make direct contacts with the industrialists and make a contract. and in fact, grow what the industrialist wants you to grow. now was actually in my opinion, a disaster. and shouldn't have been there in the 1st place. i just b j. b. paula. look at the coven vaccines. i for bill gates is very into in the are
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in the coven vaccine. yes. but if it one for me, there will be no indian challenger waxing, because i'm on the standing committee of parliament on hills. i was able to run it through in the beginning, our end mr. prime minister announced t on the announced that the british or ask for any card whatever it's called. and then no i didn't in the meeting was there of the standing committee and i made a very stringent criticism. and i don't know whether in response to that or what the, by mr. nate, late night that same day, also say that co action can do it in a quote waxing. is the only maxine now which i know has 0 mortality rates and they're referring to the indian vaccine, not the multinational attempt to trying to vaccinate the global south. well, i don't think that correction is enough to give it to,
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to any people abroad. i have no report of any cor waxing debts that has been submitted to our committee. and if anyone can find out that i'd be happy to take it up, obviously, or meds and always kaiser risk. i think the void is 75 years on some. i'd say that whether it be the vaccination, whether it be new, liberalizing the farming, whether it be the or what is this $10000000000.00, a negotiated bombs from the united states. $22000000000.00 from the us in arms over the past 10 years. a point against china is one allegation. india is basically a colonial subject of nato. and the i m f and world bank and bill gates maybe. yeah . well i'm, i think we are not anything specific. that's the worst part either you should be in the car acquired or you should be in the bricks. but mr. moody is in both.
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and both sides. keep inviting him on that that he achieves anything in that. i agree with you that we need to do a lot of our own production and i was the slogan earlier on self reliance after the most money to go. the 1st dilution take lists when we bought from the french, the a plains. and then from the soviet union, excuse me, russia. we bought s 400. and now i think we are going to buy $500.00 to and now the americans are upset. they're saying that, you know, the, this is bill with chinese electronics and we can give you our advanced weapons because there will be spying. so to try to learn. we are, we are getting the worst of both words. you're not really doing it to the west. if you are saying that we are a junior partner of the west, that's wrong. here,
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we seem to be junior partner practically the both blocks. and just finally, i better just very briefly put to you what has been of course said that there is a genocide against muslims and christians continuing. i presume you reject the accusation. yes, i have. and i can tell you that and that's at the college genocide is ridiculous. yes, there have been rights, but this is not. that doesn't happen only in our when we came to par, the beecher became mrs. gun. these thing i can do, you want to 89 where they've been on it, i in order to get it killing by hindus, and then in your som, i or whatever the target is killing in but job to seeks. oh, there are plenty of examples, but these don't come into a more general site. it's not that they have been they said maybe lack of finesse
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in using the police. lack of paper operations there, but i mean, foreseeing something is going to happen and do something about it all that. but genocide in india, there's no place that just happened. it's western propaganda. doctors the romanians rami, thank you. over 180000000 voters are eligible to vote in elections in the of the beginning february, and that's the show back on saturday, 20 years to the day since president george w bush's state of the union address. where he 1st using the term axis of evil, before catastrophic nato intervention chemist on iraq live here in syria illuminated by julian assange. you won a small legal victory on monday to prevent him from dying in a u. s. prison until then. keep in touch while our social media and let us know what you think will be the result in the upcoming election. ah,
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a united states history and the role that slavery play is already very formal institutions. i became a nation. it actually find the nation rise of capitalism clearly on the back plate and it's laid down if you had investigated leaching any great extent, you can't believe that your country and country still dance and i'm from the south . everybody know, know what this thing to some extent. i would argue that we're still fighting the civil war in the south is winnie don't look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must
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obey the orders given by human beings, except where such order is it conflict with the 1st law? show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. at the point obviously is too great trust rather than fear a job with artificial intelligence. real summoning with a robot, let's protect its own existence with up and so now for the past couple of decades, the solution was i was print more money. but now that the money printing is causing a real inflation and exacerbating all the problems, that solution is only going to make the problem worse. but of course that's what they'll do. that's what the leads will do. that's what they plan to do. any inconvenience that falls them, they will answer well,
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we need to print more money for it. more money and the food will get in shorter supply and workers will disappear and the situation get worse and worse because it does never money printing never worked in russia receives written replies both the u. s. a. nate, so it's a moscow's request for security guarantees. not submit, there's a conflict in ukraine. in other news countries across europe, he's there co read restrictions, despite near high record infection rate, while health officials get mixed signals on the threats of the only constrain. also in the headline i would prefer to be led by law then allow will be now with british prime minister boys johnson's political life seemingly hanging by a thread with a government enquiry into downing street lockdown violations.
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