one direction and from the other side with awe is our top headlines right here. we're not seen to national rushers. foreign minister says that u. s. has failed to address moscow's concerns about nato expansion. but the 2 sides can start a serious conversation about secondary issue. i'm panic over the ukraine crisis takes up, his dad, turned in the media with one outlet suggesting russian aggression is preventing your fo, hunters from contacting alia. also in the program, a top investigate if a human rights watch is allegedly targeted by spyware, while probing the devastating 2020 explosion in bay. ruth, she told us about the incident and we speak to a us immunology,

to explains why spartan agree has the edge of a rival vaccines against armor croc, with sorry, just after 5 pm here at moscow. and as most people are ending, they work day. we are cranking up your world wide headlines. welcome to them. it's not you international. so the russian foreign minister, sort of a lot for off has said that russia is ready for serious talked with us even after washington, deliberate, a written response to moscow security demands. and that doesn't look good. he did a lot of rock did express disappointment that russia's primary concern that of holding nato's expansion into eastern europe has been dismissed. lucas's celia, the cumulative, as for the contents of the reply, there are grounds for the beginning of a serious conversation. only about secondary issues regarding the main issue that

has been no positive reaction. and the main issue, i remind you is a clear position on the in admissibility of nato's further expansion, eastwood's and on the deployment of strike weapons that could threaten the territory of the russian federation. the 2 key proposals that russia put forward as lever, i've said there were just flat out rejected in america's response to them. those 2 key proposals are concerning, the stopping of deployment of offensive weapons in europe that could possibly hit russia and also ceasing the further eastward expansion of nato, specifically into the countries of ukraine and georgia. now that 2nd point there was actually promised to russia back in 1990 when the soviet union was still around it. it was promised to the soviet union and then soviet president mikhail gorbachev was told that nato would not expand any farther than the older river in europe. and as the russian officials had over the years, tried to hold the west to that promise. they were actually acting in

a childlike manner according to leverage in that statement. now, he also cited the istanbul and astonish declarations of the organization for security and cooperation in europe. this, these basically declarations. they basically define the framework within which sovereign nations can decide which which military organizations, which military alliances they want to be a part of. and leverage says basically one very important point was left out. let's take a listen what he said pro rebuttal. so use the right to choose alliances is clearly conditioned by the need to take into account the security interests of any other o s. c state. including of course, the russian federation. the principle by which one cannot to strengthen one's security at the expense of the security of others, is deliberately hushed up. lever off did ultimately accused professional partners in the west of a bit of a pick and choose policy when it comes to obligations it expects others to follow. can you, can you tell us more about that?

right, well he says that the west is basically trying to only pay attention to the closet, says sovereign nations have the right to decide what military alliance they're going to be a part of without paying any attention to the fact that these same dac declarations say that it can't infringe on the security of any other sovereign nation. this is something that lavish brought up with you as secretary of state antony blinking during negotiations in geneva. actually, let's take a listen to what happened. if you're special renewal in geneva, when blinkin, and i, when negotiating, i asked how they could explain the position according to which they consider the commitments adopted within the o. s. c a. only as a menu from which they pick and choose only the items they find appetizing. what they have pledged to do in terms of the interests of others. they try to ignore lincoln did not answer this question. he shrugged his shoulders. now lavelle statement actually doesn't come as that much of a surprise. actually. nato just already rejected outright and publicly moscow. so

a proposals on wednesday, and that was shortly after american ambassador john sullivan made a visit to moscow to the foreign ministry to deliver america's official response. that came by the way, 2 weeks after it was expected, russia filed these proposals back in mid december and were expecting and was expecting a response for a while now. and this is all the while that the u. s. continues to say that there, you know, for diplomacy, but only as only if russia stops of so called aggression. now, what this aggression is, we're not exactly sure, but that happens at the same time that nato continues to strengthen its military positions across russia's border. washington said that it's military advisors in ukraine will continue to stay there for the foreseeable future. and the u. k. in u. s. continue to give weapons to ukraine. so of course, we keep hearing this word plumber see from the west, but it seems like their actions are saying something completely different. a short time ago, i interviewed political analyst i got hammer, he gave us his take on why the us is insisting on further nato expansion. despite

the fierce russian concerns it disturbs the aim of wild. busy dominance and the world dominance is started by making a border between russia and germany and vessel states like the baltic states, poland nowadays, the ukraine and down they want more modo, of course, to, to join the nature of public state club. and this would form a border that they can hint the new soap road or belt and road as a chinese called it from the land wife. and couldn't germany or the german middle then to work together with rushes. and therefore even but not for him to pipeline is disturbing because it causes that to germany can be energy in independence. and this is not in the interest of us and they to, because they want to keep germany blackmailing that german politicians,

even if that happens some accident and people who are not. so in line with the american politics, are getting gaining power. but they can always blackmail them and keep them on the village. while washington stretches the need for diplomacy is the only way out of the crisis. there are some john list to a striking, a slightly more belligerent tone, just buying time till they replaced to invade ukraine, making you jump through hoops like han, delivering written responses to questions that yvonne said time and time again. in the past, meanwhile, that the stabilizing ukraine from within the economy's crumbling, you're spending 100 millions of dollars showing them up. what point do you stop playing rushes game and take preemptive action? now? we can walk and chew gum at the same time and that's very much what we've been doing and well, some journalists are in the well war mongering mode. others seem to have lost the plot entirely when it comes to ukraine, with some western media outlets or something else. and pretty absurd stories as

a sky at taylor now explains. they say you should be coo and a crisis on last your the media, in which case, why when you can become hysterical and so panic instead. and never mind the kremlin battle, probably european bickering old by didn't nick night cream. just after warning about world war 3 off rule will never understand what goes on in his head. the media pundits what we'll skip to boulder the back to the more outlandish the better, like this random women. and here they found just hanging out in a window holding a gun. i have never hunted in my life. i but this carbon, after listening to some soldiers discussing the best rifle to get if it comes stood, then we'll fight for key if will fight to protect our city. i don't see any sense in the rush and starting a war and leaving key of alone. it's strange because usually the meter is pro gun control. i guess it doesn't count a rush of the target. well, that's how bad the crisis is. the media says that housewives have what they're rags

for rifles. the thing is, marianna juggler is in fact a simple ukrainian woman from the territorial defense forces. her uniform is british, another fake story about militants whom western propaganda turns into anti russian freedom fighters. again, just like guns fake, he's as great when it's directed against the russians. i guess there's only a certain number of undercover housewives in ukraine. so the media is happy to look elsewhere specifically at a map. and it's noticed that the quickest way from moscow to key f as a fire churn noble making at the lowest logical invasion route. also making russians pretty much the only willing visitors essence, well, 1986. the risk of a war for the spreading radiation seems minimal, but one object in the zone is particularly vulnerable. a new $1700000000.00 stainless steel arch over the destroyed reactor. it was completed in 2016 to

prevent the spread of highly radioactive gust. yes, on route to the landscape office, the press things that putin's troops might just topple a giant radiation containing structure that we've more than 29000 tons. you know, some light texas either toxic exposure before the real fighting stops. talking about the real fighting and have you read the mirror recently? no. oh, well see you. i can see hooton's terrifying arsenal of hi tech support. well, these include, i warn you, the pools actively far raising power tupa dogs. i agree, it really doesn't look like that dog in the article, so i signed up for regular sky diving. and that's because he didn't. and thought photo is all they such an rescue dog. not one of the kremlin tin canines fabricated by the mirror. but if the ukrainians a don't surrender at the sight of a flailing dog and a harness. what the world, what types and flight kalashnikov are ready as back up?

the so firing a kalashnikov rifle with its own brain is still at the prototype stage and a pit recently it's an arm show. it can identify target some, pull the trigger with all the need for a human shooter, said, protest dragging out the very latest innovations. the special occasion, the thing is, the ai kalashnikov rifle has actually been around since 2017, the thing yet, the mera fide, it's entire back jackson department, at themes. but never mind all this, because the most disappointing thing about this entire crisis is that puts his pad block, the world will put a stop to travel, highly of old, extra terrestrials probably regard warfare as something the only primitive civilizations engagement. so the ukraine situation means we're unlikely to get an invitation to join the federation for the time being, quite frankly, who can blame the media driving to aliens and told us, because once they finish driving, this wild population to a nervous breakdown,

they'll need some new readers for all of the welding, panic and dispatch that they've got a cookie. the german parliament just held the debate on the russia ukraine crisis and the risk of a military escalation. author, peter, all of it has the latest now from both. on the german foreign minister, elinor bare, bog confirmed that the gnawed stream 2 gas pipeline, the runs between russia and germany was part and is part of the what she called a strong package of sanctions that had been agreed between germany and its allies. that could be imposed against russia, should there be an invasion of ukraine? the 10000000000 your robe infrastructure project has been controversial for a long time. there was a lot of pressure on berlin to make sure that it was included in sanctions. it does seem that is the way it is right now in abilene about confirming that in the bundle stack. and there's also been an awful lot of pressure on germany from it's e u

partners, such as poland and the baltic states and from it's nato allies, such as the united kingdom to provide weapons to ukraine. now the german foreign minister said that berlin continues to support ukraine, but absolutely no way would there be weaponry, sent from germany to that country? does jack, this is alyssa, that a simple political sam cloud, our strength in this lands, happy that we have a clerical and position there. and at the same time, why use our strengths? many different roles, seminar demands in his robins, his id is very simply in difficult situations. you have to repeatedly discuss your action, se cleaned, initiative and we have to strengthen ukraine economically and financially. august the 21st century. we don't throw loose cannons inc. love going bow from the social democrats, also speaking to parliament. he said that there would be no weaponry as well going from germany to ukraine. he did say that the current situation, it's unfolding was the fault of russia,

but said that they can be no peace in europe without russia. youngstown is important now. sure is living right now in the middle of your, it's about doing everything we can to prevent a military escalation of the situation or little. secondly, we're naming very clearly who is causing the escalation. and that's showing, of course, we do not deliver weapons to you, correct? and i'm open about keeping that the lasting peace order in europe would not work without russia would only with russia. but when you look at what was being said by the representatives of the federal government in the bone, the stag on thursday, the door is open for diplomacy. still very much the option that berlin wants to proceed with and considering berlin does look like the destination for the next round of normandy format talk. that's sure to be a good thing that comes after the talks that took place in paris on wednesday, wrapped up after a moment, 8 and a half hours session with the decisions seem to be that in 2 weeks time, as long as everything goes as is planned,

that the representatives of the government of germany, france, ukraine, and russia would come here to the german capital and continued those talks. further . events are taking place all around the world now for international holocausts remembrance day. commemorating the 6000000 jewish lives lost in the nazi atrocities world war 2, the 27th of january marks the day the actual death camp was liberated by the red army. we can now across life and speak to dani, done on the former permanent representatives of israel to the united nations. a very good afternoon to you. so thanks so much for coming on the program speaking today the, the president of europe's conference of rabbis said that we need to remember the lessons of a holocaust so we can make sure that such a thing never happens again. do you dani think the world has learned those lessons? i think we started to forget the less will to today remember the victims we play the survivor and remember that was used, but unfortunately,

the longer we get from the events of the day that the red army actually enter the outreach and liberated the discount. we see mo and the same with more holocaust denial and more 8 crimes against jews all over the world, including the us. and you will, we have to remind to walk about the danger of those hate crimes and of course, denial, and make sure that governments take action against those who come with those crimes . you know, mr. dunn, and i think perhaps you're referring to the un secretary general, antonio gutierrez, who recently voiced along what he said was a global resurgence of xenophobia and anti semitism. danny, why do you think if that's true, why do you think it's happening? and i think today with social media so easy to spread lies to spread hate is being used this platform who won't take that gives use and we see it everywhere. we see

the numbers in the usa rising. we see a tax id of jews in the capital to hook you up and we have to take action. and i call i even demand from governments not only to declare and to speak. that's nice, that's important, but it's not enough. we demand will complete the action mainly that you cation legislation and enforcement feel punishment again, though the committee plans, what do you think about it was november last year that a un resolution binding the glorification of naziism was actually blocked by 2 countries. so that was namely the u. s. and ukraine did you think there was any justification for that? you know, i know the day is going to support this resolution. and if you need more resolution . few days ago, the general assembly adopted the revolution against holocaust denial. and you know, only one can't be voted against the resolution. that was iran. unfortunately, the iran, they continue to sit on a course denial,

actually give funds to people, but most of the nile, lithuania, for example, has been accused of promoting a false narrative on the holocaust. or did you think those allegations of fact it can you repeat the question? lithuania has been accused of promoting a false narrative on the holocaust. i'm sure you heard about it. do you think any of that to any of the allegations with i don't see who should be a different country. i know that manual, the son country face say a crime the find and they some of the them it but i think we should start in an early age. it went to school and i think we can do it on your going west and you know, and also in the u. s. w. cation about the 27th and holocaust denial. danny, down on the former, permanent representative of israel to the united nations. a pleasure having you with us today. thank you very, very much. thank. in other news,

your autism national large and tina has asked a world health organization to speed up the approval of the russian sputnik v. short. one of the holidays is sharing its own data on the national rollout of the vaccine with the w. h. o. a team of experts from the organization is due to visit russia next month. now, earlier this month for a russian italian study was released by the russian direct investment fund. it concluded that sputnik v is more effective than fight against alma cron providing a so called bro foster immune response among all samples 74.2 percent of sputnik. the vaccinated sarah were able to neutralize on the con versus 56.9 percent suffice vaccinated. so i looked at the paper and the data are promising. what the paper shows is says nick b. yeah, 2 bodies that i use by the 16 cross read this arm across isn't lost and ready to do,

but there is still residual activity that will hopefully provide protection. i found especially promising was the very last scrap of the paper. it shows that kinetics of the n, d, r u, as forms and as be new, is how in a big scene that folds up quite rapidly. so after 6 months, there are significant lower level bodies. then you have shortly after the explanation of these responses seem 3 masters state. i think we should also help developing countries to improve their own menu manufacturing capacity. do i think that's an hour and a mixing companies that are going to collaborate just us as a new college in j? i'm not sure to be perfectly honest, but i would say 20 pos here in moscow. hospital in the u. s. city of boston has refused to give a life saving heart transplant to

a patient. family says it's because of his refusal to get a covey shot. or the man's wife says it's a violation of his rights. he is. it is streamline high risk of sudden death. we are literally in a corner right now. this is extremely time sensitive. we being pressured to choose a shot that could kill him. this is not just a political issue. people need to have a choice. d. j. ferguson is a 31 year old father of 2 and a portal, a suffering and stage heart failure. family says he wants to move him to another hospital, but it can be transported due to his condition. the hospital has defended it stands saying the cobra vaccine is one of many requirements for old transplant recipient. health care system require several cdc recommended vaccines, including the covey, 19 vaccine and lifestyle behaviors for transplant candidates to create both the best chance for a successful operation and to optimize the patient's survival after transplantation . given that their immune system is drastically suppressed. we spoke to john

dombrowski, the ceo of the washington pain center. he thinks the hospital failed to present grounds for refusing the treatment in ethics. you know, one, we have to, we know, respect to patient what they want. now truly, if the patient is really bad, heart disease but has bad behaviors and things like that in terms of smoking and diet and exercise, he doesn't do well then clearly, you know, those organs are very limited. so we're not going to give it to that one individual toy changes lifestyle behavior. but clearly this is not the case. he sounds compliant with respect to his you know, other issues or really to his heart disease. the one thing seems to be the sticking point seems as code vaccination we've done with many patients who are new transplant with a kidney transplant, lung transplant before cove it and there's never been requirement for vaccination ever. well, these are ethical questions and if the patient does not want to move in that direction, but truly needs care and then the physician and the patient should talk to one another and move forward. so we should want to get some more information,

but hopefully we can move forward, take care of these patients. because time is of the essence. let's do the transplant and maybe talk about the vaccine later because he may not make it to tomorrow. the mobile phone of a top of human rights watch, investigate. i was allegedly hacked a lama. fact key was looking into the 2020 bay route explosion at the time. now she was alerted that are i phone may have been targeted by the notorious surveillance tool pegasus. that allows attackers full access to a phones, camera, microphone, coal logs, e mails, text messages and more. the company in charge of the spyware is an israeli private firm called the n s o group. it's tool has been at the center of numerous hacking scandals involving the phones of john lists, activists and politicians. the company says, though it only sells spyware to governments, to fight terrorism and crime. well, here i did speak with our la la funky herself. she says that such hacking

activities basically present a threat to the basic issue of human rights. we didn't know that there isn't a regulatory framework in place which allows these sets of attack to their digital fingerprint that would help us to, to point the finger. and this is why we're really calling on the day to move forward and establishing. right. it's very a framework for the trade and technology to be sure that the effective attack no longer typically that. so let's talk about potentially why you are here because you were doing an investigation of the bay roof explosion. this was august 2020. i think a lot of people may have forgotten about this. august 20, 2200. 19 people died in that last and the pictures looked like an atomic bomb went off right there all along the waterway that the crater the devastation from what was allegedly applying to a storage of ammonia nitrite exploded that tell us about if you can quickly tell us about your investigation of the baby explosion. do you think maybe you upset the

wrong people so that during the time of the attack between april and august of last year, i was working very intensively on an investigation to see which the government officials were couple were responsible for this last having taken place in this market place and getting destruction explosion. rock we have been published or finding that our work is in this case and is always with a transparent. so it is possible that these attacks were connected with this investigation. at the same time i was to provide they were on a number of different critical process around the world. so again, it's very difficult to say which government, which is possible and to understand even what data they may have taken and how they intend to you, that these are all questions that i still did not have answers for. how do you personally feel about this situation? miss ki, i did you feel a sense of violation that your privacy has been intruded or of course,

i mean my privacy in my family that of my contact. you know, i honestly was shocked when i 1st learned that this attack had taken place and really filled with a tentative. busy address about, again, what government has attacked me, what they have they stolen. how do they intend to use this data? it really is overwhelming to, to consider, you know, our phones are really, you know, much more than the gateway to just so much. not particularly in times of code. and so to know that my device could really be used to get me in this way to potentially try to undermine other people's rights. a 20 year old student from the u. k has avoided prison time despite being convicted of raping a 12 year old girl. after his arrest last year mister moscow confessed to 3 counts of rape and spent 7 months in custody. he was later released on bail and sentenced

to 200 hours of unpaid work, explaining the light sentence of the judge said she believed the man was not aware of the victim's real age. there is no suggestion of any p defile tendencies at all . what instead, there is a young man who is relatively immature and possibly naive. the judge also confirm that just by being about being a preteen, the victim was on a dating ap and behaved in a quote, sexually suggestive man. news . the, the me with the

we discuss his controversial case with a panel. ok. i am the amused by the story. am i and i'm actually deeply offended by it that there's a 20 by 20 year old man. cannot recognize somebody who is significantly at he, you know, not an adult, not even an adult, not, not a 15 year old, but somebody is 12. so that's just pretty sick making to me. it should be the case if everyone can form. so the recommended approach on all of the social media platforms that will be nobody present under the age of 13. and that's actually, you know, will be honest about their age and vote for certain graduations above. but i don't think it's a particularly alarming present though. i do think it does raise questions about the, the degree of protection that very young children have in the law, or that that, that there isn't as much distinction between children. the 13 and i was 13 as one

mike single though there are defences that can be run in case of all the children platform that they were on is not one than i would personally just wanted to visit for a moment that both of them chose to be on there, there is a responsibility and especially on him more, he's an adult. he should have known or even had an inkling though he was having a relationship with a child under age it'll, it's against the law and whatever, whatever. or the fact that she was on tinder doesn't give him a reason or an excuse to have a sexual relationship with her. if you embark on a level of abuse, you can be held george out because your identity is known. also, if your gender or your saw the black ball, because you know the other people present on that level had had their age checked,

it will prevent you unwittingly, being connected to somebody who is under a. i mean, we've done that. i saw children draw ease or drink or smoke until they're over the age to be able to take down risks responsibly. and we shouldn't be doing that with social media. whether it has been shown a great deal of hall. i'm going to had a discussion continues right now on line at ortiz and you tube channels wrapping up the show right now. it's half past the hour here at moscow. thanks for joining us on this thursday. your program returns the top of the hour of to see ah with .