tv Documentary RT February 2, 2022 1:30am-2:01am EST
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going on in war zones, and there was no coordination really between the companies. a, the problem was that we had all of these different private military companies running around. we outsourced too quickly. they weren't coordinated both in contract terms, but also an on the ground operational terms. so what is your answer to a problem of outsourcing? outsource more, we outsourced it to a private military company to coordinate the seem to be ideal for you as company was a huge contract. it was half a $1000000.00 or just under that and was just soon the one of the large, big american companies would win it, but it didn't work out that way. oh, paneled him spies, a hit the headline a few years ago during the arms to africa fair involving his old company, sandlon. but general's vice now has developed
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a thriving business in private security. and he recently won that monthly 1000000 pound contract. well tim spices with me now. tim. good morning. what's your summary of the situation in terms of chaos? oh lord over. i wouldn't advise people to go that if the measures in put in place for their protection asana. mm hm. should contract in iraq was to have received the communication and coordination for all the private security companies from the ground with any fixed. it meant that they were the general in charge of all of the private contracts. at that point, the u. s. military was the largest military presence in iraq, but if you add together all of the private military contract as spice, it was effectively in charge of the 2nd largest, unforeseen from
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spicer is a fairly well known figure. and british political and media circles. mm hm. but at the time of the award of the contract for iraq, it was awarded by a logistics contracting sell in virginia. not in iraq by a group of, you know, essentially acquisition bureaucrats who had no experience with the private military industry. no knowledge of the different players and referred to him as that british guy from with
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mm hm. in the world of private security contracted when they heard that this company called aegis one this contract. and that the people that were working for him were sell africans and not america, there was, there was period when you're applying for these contracts. your bid on, you know, will include you and your businesses personal history. it doesn't say, you know, by the way, we were involved in this international controversy that almost cost a foreign minister. his job be just presence in iraq was relatively stand for you have one video which was posted on youtube for each is contract. i who is foreign a gun while playing rock music with
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no legal actions. what types of what do your weapons in this battle in iraq? for me it's, it's the ability to coordinate and, and continue to help the reconstruction effort. ah, very rapidly, he just became a huge company and it made tim spy said extremely healthy. non majority of americans now think it was a mistake to go to war in iraq. early in the iraq war, the president stood before a banner that said, mission accomplished 3 and a half years later, the debate is back over why the u. s. is interact in the 1st place. public support for the war is falling. more americans want the troops to come home
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ah, in a breach ceremony on a base on the edge of baghdad, the united states took down the flag of its command here to mark the end of the military mission. the u. s. money stops him to be pulled out of the rocky field operations and the industry had to go to a very complicated reset. this companies had to realize that they weren't gonna get that level of money again. i'm so they had to offer different package of deals with that meant they would have to hire cheapest soldiers. ah
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let me with no, no no no more sure. let me. ready walk. ready with. ready ready going that bad? yeah. last on the okay. i have to go to boomer meant what to call. so master i used to live up. i will not laugh. i did you math, math, good. any for a drugs you always use you. i see mom, you can watch anything, give you a hobby, going so good about it. if i don't hear anything,
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ah, ah, i'll work undertaken by egypt is carried out to highest standards of professional competence and integrity. our track record is extensive and our highly trained men, women are dedicated to support the mission and at hand with outstanding performance . when we 1st started into theater, we were briefed on peruvian and colombian guards, and the natural question you ask is, so what do you pay for these folks? and i don't at the time and i'm playing off memory cells, but i'm pretty good at that was about $1000.00 to $1200.00 and then oh, i don't know. 6 months, a year ago, it became a garden guards at about $800.00
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a month. and we'd ask the question of security companies because of their lowest price, technically acceptable rush at a bottomless, what some call it. white wire guidance now versus provings and colombians. i said we don't have a chance to get the award unless we use a guidance because they're $2.00 to $400.00 less. and now on this most recent trip, the company that is winning all the awards that had this ah, was 1st i'd heard of. well, well, we've got a good strategy. we're using sierra leonean. so you asked the question so, so what are we paying forms but $250.00 a month? well, i, i guess rhetorically. i don't expect an answer. you know, can we go a lower? can we find someone it's like we'll do it for boarding room. you know, that has such a terrible country that maybe they'll just go out of the country and be a free security guard. i mean, that's pretty inexpensive. i say that it sounds facetious, but it's real. no, will you get what you pay for blue
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me? the original goal was not to bring soldiers or soldiers from the poorest countries on earth, but the u. s. meeting system requires that you pick the lowest bidder. so the became the status quo and iraq to have multiple layers of foreigners, iraqi people, for where they came from and who they fought for. so some of that would be with the colombian marines, and it's a to be with range in the you, again, as you know, came out of the, again, an army and the challenges that i was with when i spent a month and black water from pinochet's private guard and some of these countries are known for extremely brief wars,
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whether it's columbus heavily on. and there's not a lot of discussion about where did your life so long as you are in the army and you meet certain criteria. and sometimes you don't have to be in the army to meet this criteria. so the u. s. system, and of course, any business is going to put out a specification. if you can, mass has specification and your cost is lower than you in the job. the ah, and i make no, no borders line to tease and you fresh as a marriage, we don't have a charity. we don't have a vaccine. the whole world leads to take action and be ready. people are judgment. come with,
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we can do better, we should be doing better. everyone is contributing each in their own way. but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is great, the response has been met. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together with ah ah, so you cut your cost, you make more profit, you get the soldier that you want, but you also majorly dilute. the professionalism and the effectiveness of those so
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ah, with the company is self interest, is different than national self interest. companies are problem maximizes what they do. that's natural, except here, we're not creating toys. we're producing things that can result in wor. no, no, no, no, no. what do you do if you have a, somebody from the philippines and working for american private military company in afghanistan, who kill somebody? what jurisdiction does that person fall under? we don't know the international law such that it doesn't really have a category for armed civilians. for the so subway governments
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including a british and the glass government decided to start creating international norms and standards of how the is probably closer to me should behave with. ready the national code of conduct was instigated or started by switzerland and the international community a group of means and then jose and states got together. and they formulated a sort of a self regulatory car to contact these companies. so companies would fine up to this code promising they would not violate it, they would not commit human rights atrocities or not commit work crimes, etc. so you can point to wow, representatives of a couple of nations. and by the way,
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the private military themselves got around a table in switzerland and they agreed about good norms. the aim for. ready terry, to conduct you not work, the idea that a company would voluntarily confess crime. it's committed abroad. why would they do them? the reality is that most golf clubs have more enforcement mechanisms than these kind of documented i in about 15 countries, i've been involved in programs to reintegrate children who are served an armed forces or it's a contradiction in terms on the one hand western countries have pump large sums of money into the reintegration of former child soldiers. but now we have governments like the u. s. supporting the so called security companies that recruit people and
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continue their exposure to violence and cement their identities as perpetrators of violence as soldiers that make it impossible to ever reintegrate into civilian life . ah, now i was not there i was, it was my drug. well question as well is, is with at one time window kits came into our camp at killer law. crucial fantasies. i was in touch with tara, looking down. we had the exclusion has taken place. i think about swallowing when
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people are dying on the street. exposure only sticking out all over the city and at any time how to going to show how to ball or what shave i. explosion. i think about my going to what happens. yeah. before i went to brooks with the 1st team for iraqi more spirited and and added to the foreign force. wow. shoot. i'm sorry, my member. so deceased. well, i mean what to have them insured on your machine. i know
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people running in to come in came didn't come fighting for what i or lights or whatever and tried to for anita who actually is guardian. i don't use it. no. it's not a good one because the one in douglas me as it makes me came up with issues may seem like an actor for well as not young people unfairly on have no jobs are desperate to feed themselves and their families and result is that it becomes harder and harder to ever find their way back into civilian life and a plant seeds violence wherever they go. well,
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we don't always remember wanting. i'm the my stuff, my wife. so when i, when i have a white one, i should control when you're not in the west. it's a weapon because i'm full on tunnel. which means i can do anything with the former child soldiers. i've been trained to take pride in their skill and their ability to, to kill people. the, i think it's a fiction to claim that they are somehow stable, that they can self regulate as well known that young people who have extensive history of violence and being fed drugs and manipulated over time they develop problems of impulsivity high levels of aggression. it becomes very difficult to change the mindset it's spacious to say that they've been
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carefully selected or that they're, that it's safe to hand them a gun and expect them to do a quote, professional job. i spend my life working to aid the rehabilitation and the regression of young people. and it pains me to see my own government supporting the behavior so called security companies. you know, we pride ourselves on being a moral people trying to, to the right thing. what we're doing is we're exporting people using young people who've been child soldiers, deliberately sending them into the jaws of combat and further violence. nothing could be worse for these young people. nothing could be worse for security. me as a close connection between this industry and policy makers,
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ah, the church street will continue to act for government. you're going to see private company, military engaging in warfare. me. these are companies that are registering our culture today. the companies on our money new companies. this is a milestone. mm. fundamentally, if your system of democracy and your government takes action that you don't agree with, you can vote that government out if a company or from your country's doing something. you disagree with
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or whatever. ah, every american who, sirs joins an unbroken line of heroes. i'm on by their sacrifice. ah, when i get them in nickolowan, i look, i'm not food. my doing kind of what our main hit them are coming to them. really come in and keep the handle. who did he got in on only what they needed godaddy. oh oh, there's no one going to do out protests in the streets if the contractors kill ah ah, country still exercises its foreign policy, the use of force and violence in these foreign regions. it is using proxies,
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contractors, 3rd country nationals, and in obscuring their role. oh i you think that you can get somebody from here? we can fit it's really your money. it's your tax money doing it, but making sure the politicians are in trouble. ah, military contractors make a decision to go to war a lot easier. ah. as part of ending a war responsibly, his standing by those who for the
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on hey, a federal reserve so there you go. get a back. oh, no. with came when we get the revenue bill with kaiser or a digital smart city is a city that's using technology to make people's life easier, happier, collecting a lot of data to try to improve the way things are in theory, these big organizations that are now meeting and pulling all that data together, they're not looking at you as an individual,
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necessarily lose data being a real possibility of privacy violation. and that's something most of us wouldn't want to wells transparently, but we must live with a what do we do? go to war with the nato blog. has someone thought about it makes it crystal clear, he sees it cranes, potential nato membership is a direct threat to russia. secures the micron government, which is the country's muslim counselors, francis go to linked to the community, a decision that's been slammed this political apologize to the peace loving, patriotic canadian, you're outside right now. just asking to be heard. kind of canadian truck is rally
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