equity here says the u. k continues to provide vital humanitarian assistance that have canister on supporting of a 2700000 afghans with life saving aid biden administration working to keep humanity in assistance flowing to afghanistan. that all us funds are directed to closely vetted local and international partners. i mean, surely the, the aid is coming through from the countries that, of course, sir arguably destroyed the country after 21. well, you know, like vast needs in this country. afghanistan, countries, some 42000000 people. some 24000000 are in need of humanitarian assistance. right now, you know, with our partner agencies, we're aiming, we've prioritize to hit some 22000000 people with assistance this year. and we believe that this $22000000.00 figure is achievable if the humanitarian pipeline donor pipeline can be kept filled. and that's not just a responsibility for the u. k. it's a responsibility for all countries that have

a stake in the situation here. because of course, afghanistan is in the location. it is in the middle of central asia with borders on many of the post soviet states as well as of course south asia. and of course the, the west asia region. yeah. i'll get to the geopolitical partners that really are also working with i, what would you say to the washington? i m f that is block $240000000.00 to that's crystelina, george eva. now the bank of international settlements, general manager augustine cost. and apparently they've, they've withheld $700000000.00. obviously biden is freezing all assets in the usa, amounting to billions. what would you say to those people about conditions on the ground and cobble that you're seeing right there, that might persuade them to release funds? well, i think it's important for governments and organizations around the world to think

about the humanitarian needs in afghanistan to look at how funds can be directed towards the, the women, the children, the men, anyone in need here. because in the half the country are more than half the country is in need, the middle class is seen, of course their incomes wiped out. there is just, we know more development projects underway right now because of the different sanctions and freezing and activities the, the international economic sector. you know, for example, the airport is, is virtually operating in a shadow of its former capacity. because of course, most international flights have have whole to decide from a couple small african airlines. the import export sector, of course, is also greatly affected by the financial liquidity crisis. so, you know where there are afghan monies overseas,

i think is the hold upon the international institutions. as the secretary general of the un himself said, it's important for parties to address afghanistan's liquidity crisis, to ensure that we're not penalizing the women and the children. because right now they are really living by a threat. i mean 90 percent of the wealth heroin comes from afghanistan. it went up to that level of to the occupation. so not sure what the import export market to arguably and as regards development surely wrong there. i mean, china has invested millions of dollars in afghanistan, and the neighbors focused on iran, russia, china, they know, investing in afghanistan right now. well, we certainly don't see, you don't see on the streets a lot of activity. i don't know what's happening in other areas where some of these governments you, you've mentioned, might be investing in minds or other other ventures it could be underway. and i

hope they'll start to, to try that from the rooftops. i know that i can stand it shipped out several 1000, several multiple up to 2000 tons of pine nuts. have been air lifted out to, for example, china. so afghanistan is trying to open up its trade routes. i believe the afghan authorities have also been involved in discussions with their neighbors about reopening some of the, the long delayed pipeline electrical power and, and where road projects. so the authorities here have a plan. they've developed and modest the 3 month budget of $7500000000.00 to, to keep the country going. and that was just released 2 weeks ago. so they're making plans based on the modest income that they have as a country. but for a country would be enormous needs, and the population of some 42000000 almost people. it requires much,

much more. and so whatever china russia and the broader international community can contribute to ensure that development projects resume. i mean, we're talking about a nation where many communities don't have access to clean water, where millions of people live in sub standard shelter, where, where children, girls and boys don't have schools. it's a country that seen a massive conflict for the last 20 years. there are many areas that my colleagues are now able to visit, that we weren't able to visit for, for a decade or more. so it's really astonishing what the taliban have said. they're willing to open up the security and the, the liberty, their permitting are a, is to have in terms of reaching long out of reach areas, especially in the east of the country. so there's a lot of positivity, but we need the resources to get into these areas. but what do you think when the i

m f, washington i m f says that it is engagement with afghanistan will remain suspended until there is clarity within the international community. on the recognition of a government led by the taliban, that you're saying is acting in some ways to inspire positivity. well, you know, i'm working from the humanitarian perspective here. where together with our partners we have roughly a 4 point. well, roughly a $4.00 humanitarian plan for afghanistan, plus, of course, another technical proposal underway amounting to some $3000000000.00. so the un and is partners, including in the end, jose have put together a finally cost plan, valued it some $8000000000.00 for afghanistan this year. this can be funded by the international community. because if not, the real danger is that many,

many thousands of people could leave the country due to starvation persecution. and of course, just a lack of any a future here. so people need to begin to invest in afghanistan now, and i'll let the, the broader financial institutions decide about their goals. but i'm focused on making monetary need. you know, julian assigns the wiki, likes found are imprisoned here in britain said the whole afghanistan war was a recycling operation for trillions of dollars into a wall street in the military. industrial complex. as joe biden spent said, there was 2 trillion dollars. britain spent $30000000.00 repeatedly and on this, i mean, you see evidence of say, organ harvesting, which is hearing on british screens right now. children's organs being sold. or do you see evidence of that? because some might say, there are certain elite in nato nations who wish the buyer would never withdrawn

the occupation troops of afghanistan. well, in terms of these reports of, of people selling origins, this is, this is saturday and negative coping mechanism that arises not just in afghanistan, but in many impoverished communities in countries throughout the world. and what we're seeing in afghanistan now is the reality of, of individuals, particularly women, apparently, according to media reports selling their organs. and of course families desperate for children couples 2 can have children offering to buy children from those families in afghanistan that have mows, they can feed people who need income. and, and this again is another negative coping mechanism. just as the scene of course people victimized for so many decades by the smuggling networks that are so

happy to pray, i'm desperate communities and individuals here in afghanistan, convincing man that perhaps for a few 100 euros they can make their way into western europe. which of course, over many months, becomes multiple thousands of euros. and often during that time they are victimized abused in and often even in slaves in situations as they approach countries where they might seek asylum. so this is a situation where negative coping mechanisms are already present. and of course, the danger of people resorting to migrating to neighboring states and, and participating in, in survival, sex and, and the prostitution market is, is really a real one. and that's why the disintegration of afghanistan, society must be avoided through a robust humanitarian approach to the country's needs. i mean, do you think these donor countries,

you're appealing to realize that if they don't give the money, they will just end up with more refugees here. and presumably you agree? i know you're criticizing with traffic is but obviously the jeff because i'm really facilitating a demand and we know about women's rights under the taliban. we know about them. apparently. extrajudicial killing cynthia withdrawal. surely given there's no fight against that. enough. get is done for human rights that to speak, or they're all eligible to come to europe and seek asylum where you and hcr is advocating that the countries are the world not send people back to afghanistan at this time. the situation is just too unsteady. but as well it's, it's not just for western europe, of course it's for the central european, the central iran has taken the most, obviously millions of refugees of pakistan and iran have been very, very generous, but yet who need support in their refugee hosting communities. it's also for,

of course, russia in the central asian states that know the danger the instability in afghanistan can have that they can step in and help to address the financial needs to surely a government that can feel the 100000 soldiers on the border of your crane can also fields, humanitarian and you think it's a good time for russia and china to step up and not just leave it to nato countries as usual. well, russia and china have both been supportive of humanitarian operations around the world in the past rushes, emma con, has been a big player and a big supporter in a number of un operations. and so together with china, which has of course, boundless capacity in many areas and is neighboring directly neighboring afghanistan, they are already supporting some of our work. and china can, of course, certainly do more, especially during this of the big season when we need to think of solitary

solidarity in and, and be mandatory needs on the ground here. so we do hope that all countries will step in australia, of course, in other states, in the americas, north america, usa, canada, and all those institutions. because indeed, afghanistan needs support. and all the states that you've mentioned, of course, are in a position to do something. ok, they all say they are helping a course, but be the guess the thank you. thank you. after the break, we investigate why israeli spyware is allegedly targeting human rights watch in lebanon over which you can u. s. a. you, nation on warplanes, flew to airily bombard, damascus this week in what the syrian government claims is. renewed, nater pushed us about isis and al qaeda all the similar coming up and bought 2 of going on the ground. ah,

this is all smart city, is a city that's using technology to make people's life easier to happier, collecting a lot of data to try to improve the way things are in theory, these big organizations that are now amazing and pulling all that data together. they're not looking at you as an individual, necessarily, people's data being collected so much data that there's a real possibility of privacy violation. and that's something most of us wouldn't want to wells transparent, but we must live with permanent surveillance with

algorithms. so neural networks have been following us everywhere. we look online because our relationships are what matters most to us. and that's how we find meaning and how we make sense of our place in the for silicon valley ceos don't mention in the slick presentations. however, the ghost workers who train the software humans are involved in every step of the process when you're using anything online. but we're sold as this miracle of automation behind your screen is a valuable workforce that feeds algorithms for next to nothing. and a very good day, i could do $5.00 now. a really bad day. i getting 10. he's workers are invisible by

design. it's about labor costs, but it's also about creating layers of weston responsibility between those who solicit this kind of work and need it. and those who do it, and welcome back the angio human rights watch like amnesty international has continued in the bus few days to sign us armed israel for its force demolitions of palestinian homes in jerusalem. now h. i w's crisis and coffee director in beirut claims. israeli spyware is targeted her when she happened to be investigating one of the largest or nuclear explosions . since the u. s. dropped the circled mother of all bombs on afghanistan, 2017 love hockey, joins me now from lebanon's. capital, thank you so much for coming on before we get to the n a. so group or more generally, and we have covered the story, obviously in relation to jamal shoji killed in turkey. how will you targeted

by this spyware? so i learned in late november after receiving an earthy a that i went back targeted i software in august of last year. i mean, you say state sponsored, obviously these really government don't say that there anything to do with this. and obviously human rights watch is, has been very critical over is really your policy that is so i understand, told you they are not aware of any active customer using is technology against human rights watch self member. but they have opened an initial assessment and your allegations, unfortunately because of the nature of my work flow and because i'm very sensitive files is very simple for me to be able to determine which country which has been responsible for me at the time that the attack took place,

i was working by intensively on an investigation or from august or 2020. and i was just one of the many i so unfortunately, you know, the, a washington overseas but, and so on. i want to blacklist and can you understand why it c charlie julio has been telling is really tv. it's very hypocritical of the united states. given the usa is selling weapons to kill people in every country that is bought pegasus by where you are ledgers. put them to your mobile phone. i'm not saying it is regulated. we're calling for a regulation intelligence. i, spyware. i'm not able to down and then use them to go after rights. and there's

like, we are trying to, not there by yes, this is anna. so, of course, denies any link to the killing of the washington post journalist tomorrow. show g, of course, one could say the edward snowden revealed to the will, the u. s. intelligence with g c, h q, here in britain is bugging everyone's. well, well, phone you had to take refuge in moscow. so what difference is it, i mean, your phone was probably bugged under that mess, surveillance system exposed by snowden. anyway, i'm reality is that we do see that a number of countries, a technology in our way, and then not only under my, under my ability to do their job and we know people are it, are really the truth with me. and the reality is that he had real world consequences. i mean, he mentioned already, we have

a case where individuals in abilene and targeted by spyware. so we have, i, i mean, obviously i'm presuming this has nothing to do with the lebanese and internal security forces information division about and the reporting that they have dismantled more than 15 separate israeli espionage networks. i mean, you don't think this is the israeli state. this is a client of anna, so group that good will be no israel at all. i have no way of controlling whether it is really government or not a. and i think one of the showing at the time is that not only do not wish to long, i don't really know what information the access to just from my and i have no knowledge of how to be me. and when i read harm to me on my, you know, community or any of my contacts. and obviously you're saying definitely some of the

people, human rights watch, drives to help could have been put in danger. because of his spyware on your phone . so the phone i started in was my personal device. so this was not a phone that with the same time, you know, the way it works is we know that they can use the device as a camera can access my. so it's possible that the time when i was under surveillance, that they were monitoring my conversations and what had access to all about . i mean the human rights which is heavily critical of the israeli government. and it's a group. what we see is mandated by the israeli government, can you know, understand these really government might want to retaliate against your, the, and you, you work for a right?

yes. i mean it's really a when you were a and i, she just us. you also because, because you hear you, you know, war blaine's, i've been flying this week across lebanese, this place to bomb, damascus. what is the human rights view? watch is view of what's happening this week. so i honestly, i, as a result of, you know, areas, right, or any other ground strikes or another competence. and unfortunately, you know, in the context of the steering complex, we have documented by a government and

residents in the context of that. and then also bye, this is a guy who had no way to a contract with strikes and but no, i mean, this used to be happening every other week, the bombing of syria by war planes on, by britain and the united states. up, do you suppose back to spy with human rights watches him on the u. s. dropping so prosecution of judy and assange who helped edward snowden escape? often he revealed to the will that compared to in a so group, arguably that the united states has the biggest, less surveillance operation in the world of all are well phones. so you know, again our, our, and our concerns with knology is not it. you and i so i feel is one of many actors in this industry as the regulation. and this is,

i mean right now is ok are starting, we're trying to do their job. we're trying to find my on place. so the bottom line is that we want them to ensure that this company not company operates and they have to start using surveillance technologies in a way that undermine right. and what have you done with that phone and what do you advise other people to do? if they suspect that their phone has been targeted by the software, i mean, i don't know how you 1st realized something was wrong with your personal mobile phone. yeah, i know already, but you know, i now i me amount of information that i have unfortunately with no you can do to prevent them because you know, the now if i, where am i doing?

so when i say that to limit that is there and actually do harm. i mean, arguably, here in britain, politicians there in bay route elected politicians from the political body are considered terrorists. do you think they're all being bugged by forces? i like to to name to water israel. so there was a fire for 1000000 stories. i'm investigation. in the summer there was a list of about 300 numbers that were to be on our list and, and other numbers there were high rating. so in that we see that, you know, i, where no one has mean, now you don't have the human rights watch anything to fight the spyware. what is

human rights watch going to do all around the world? if it's targets it's employees are targeted by this kind of software and you are using sensitive information, sometimes of victims, of alleged war crimes and so forth. so basically, i mean there was no indication that anybody else on our team or within the organization was western. i also checked the devices of a number of others that we may not be at risk. and again, the reality is that there is no way to prevent like we, i mean, of course we do take a full range digital security precautions and the way that we communicate in the way that we say and share the bottom line is that we need it so that we can do our work safely and to the higher communications that we have for me. and i just find a better ask you about 11 am because all around the world media report to saying it's a, it's a failed state. how is it this winter?

i mean, unfortunately, the situation and i was just continuing to get here. you know, we are suffering from la electricity. i can tell you, i only received about one to 2 hours of 8 hour a day on the currency, a 90 a oil coming to lebanon to help our system. so there was a diesel shipment that came in over the summer, but i mean, not by any means, you know, sufficient, that address the needs of the population and the vast majority population. now i'm really interested in relying on generators for heat, for electricity, and it to cost intensive, or most of the population even be able to afford it. so just because the home are, you know, like on your house is more than what you know. and i, person in

a month. yeah, and i mean, nature, countries are trying to intercept those iranian oil vessels. i should say, what does this mean for the covey to respond to lebanon? a brain with a. so we seeing that there are inadequate, by that there's no medical care to respond to me at the hospital bill that with and the bottom line is you know, people are looking to be at the government. it has not met, not for any yeah, i should say of the government is a sanction. so members of the government lamarche. thank you so much and you that's over this year. we'll be back on saturday when we cover the b gene winter olympics boycotted by several native nations for what they claim the human rights abuses in

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