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ah ah ah hello and welcome to cross stock, were all things considered on people about war fever over ukraine continues unabated with the u. s. and u. k. taking the lead. however, not all nato members are on board. even ukraine is attempting to dampen expectations of an armed conflict with russia. will washington in london get their way with to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, like

a white in new york. she is united nations correspondence in boston. we have, let me go see if the chair of the department of slavic studies at brown university and in lancaster we cross to alexandra claxon. he is a researcher at the university of lancaster across stock rules. and if that means you can jump in any time you want, i would appreciate it. ok, let's go to vladimir in boston. where are we right now? i'm glad i mean, because i thought this invasion was supposed to happen a few months ago. i mean, this is kind of like waiting for godot and the longer we wait, the more we see the western alliance, particularly nato fragment, maybe that's an exaggeration, but they're certainly not all on the same page. the more they discuss this and about what role the united states, u. k. and continental european countries, a nato. what kind of role they should go? headline. well, what do we have? key on the surface. it is the same old story about russia invasion, fear mongering and so on. but i suspect that underneath every country

a rehabilitation is trying to sort of, you know, like they say to fish in the my, the waters. and i feel good in order to johnson if you travel with all his party, whatever he was doing, the non stop. but you know, of course, is my always good, you know, to get tough stands and say that we're going to show it to russia and, you know, british presses and johnson that. and, you know, all this stuff, you know, here, the same thing in the united states that biden is not really about one thing. another thing, so it's always good to have a russia, it's neighbors, you know, need to just use their pool is what's happened is what they seem to be out of sync that you know, your brain. i was very happy to bring to the story. so, but it wasn't what they kind of wanted to get with this way and get financial aid military from united states but, but not this morning and not this kind of been in which are on the market. yes,

people are on the way and so they're out to sing the same thing applies to some of the european countries, germany and so and so we see that, you know, they are trying to sort of get rid of, utilize it when they wanna benefit. but there are some fractures, how it will unfold, kind of women who may still be seen, but they're there to be exploit. let me get in new york. are you covered the united nations without you don't have to agree or disagree with the positions. but we're, we're the, the, the case that the russians, baby americans, the british with a compelling cases. because from what we know at the united nations security council, nothing was really resolved not to make their points, but there were no votes. there's nothing like that. it seems like the majority of sitting on the security council more and more than happy to have that outcome because russia got to make its case the made it states you pay me. let's go ahead and we are. so yes, so we have this meeting on ukraine on monday it was very turbine because we didn't

know if it will happen until the last moment. norway was the president of the security council. and thanks to that, it was easier because now russia became to president and the us was probably worried that they will not be able to push it forward for what do you. and i think they said they were happy to actually have this meeting because they just wanted to show the support of the cigarette the counselor to have it. because russia tried to block it in the beginning. they tried, they needed 6 members again. but unfortunately they got on the 5, so the meeting was happening and all of the members are able to expose their positions. but as you said, nothing, nothing was really i don't or nothing tangible really happened. it was mainly expression of position. yeah, i mean, what, what was interesting is the chinese delegation came out very forcefully on the side

of russia, which if i go to alexander, is something, it's a beginning of something here. china, for many, many years. if there's going to be a veto, let the russians do it and we can abstain, you know, mission accomplish. it's changing ever so slowly and center. i mean, one of the things i find really interesting about all of this is that finally, after so many years, 30 years since the end of the cold war, the west has to start listening to russia. i think this is a silver lining in this kind of quasi pro crisis because russia is made it's, it's a demand to know, made it very clear what they are actually wrote them out the documents and made them public. ok, it is harder and harder for the blinking than the bo jose of this world. just keep talking at cross purposes because you can just, you know, say hey, it's written down right here. what do you think about that? that's the stage where out right now, go ahead and center. well, i think so, i mean, the root of the,

the problem here is that russia wants to be treated as an equal, at least in europe. you know. and the problem is that after the cold war ever since, then, the worst was to russia as a, as a little brother issue like right. you know, the last, the cold war. and so essentially, and the concerns are they have forget about it. and it's interesting that you mentioned china as well because that demonstrate that we no longer live in a unit of the world, you know, we have a multiple the world. and that's why i'm saying, look, things up there for now. you know, this is not the 1090 anymore. we have concerns. you have concerns. let's actually work together and create a new european structure here. european security structure. that's essentially what i try to do. i think you create in many ways, it's almost like a like a point, like, you know, it's a symptom to do this problem. yes, he's going to go. yeah, it's a problem and it's being used by the west, essentially, and show that russia is not able to, to develop. and it's all based essentially,

right. but russia wants to use ukraine to demonstrate. ready that things have changed now and there is a new kind of world or if you like, and you multiple order. busy and that's what i was just trying to say. and the question now is, who will listen? you know, is it the side that is understandable? the fact that russia has security concerns or other of those that are kind of stuck in the kind of cold war mentality or the post obama galaxy, where the thing or russia has no right essentially to, to, to say what it, what it wants. you know, one america, it's go back to boston here, the, the mother of all sanctions and there will be terrible consequences all of this language here. but it's people that say that really don't know personally, don't know what they're really talking about because particularly since they've been there starting with the financial crisis in 2008 and then the sanctions as a result of the 4th regime change in kevin 2014, russia is essentially made it so bullet proof to all of the sanctions here.

sanctions have had very little impact on economic growth there. the tiny, tiny bed for the most part, the average citizen doesn't know that western policy makers don't seem to understand them. or they understand that if sanctions are applying, it's their european allies that are pay the highest price. go ahead. vladimir. so you know, it's all american politicians, this is in bullet proof thing for them. they declare sanctions or some spray ukrainian spray european spray, and they look like a winners in for american breast. and that's and you know, why not push it. so and the press, unfortunately, what bugs me about the just observed in a situation here is they unify, you know, one hopes that some thoughtful people tend to go on a stage apartment, thinking about it and taking the rational concern seriously. but what appears on the surface is just the same story. better warning them where i want to slap a sanctions,

we should not listen to them. they just try to buy much more that they can chew. and some say in voices like, for example, this, and they the chief in germany who sort of in august on question they actually shut down. so it's the prize in the unified, in terms of media and in terms of do unified sort of kind of a flow of information is just the same thing. so what one really wonders when is this kind of bologna? we just a better by media stops and with some so people actually sing, what will be back of the sanctions? how will the germany with all the friends with what will happen in the europe, rochester, delivered in yes. over here. you know, we're fine here in boston. but let's let them freeze europeans is kind of so i don't know who is actually united states thinking they're not on tv. they're not unless media media just as amount of, you know, news about, you know, russian. yeah. it was, it's one of the things that, again, you know,

the way this media i grew up in a way from, in my opinion, is that, and, and alexander is already mentioned. it is that, you know, they're talking about ukraine security concerns, though it is not a member of nato. the u. s. it is not going to send troops to ukraine to defend ukraine. the u. k. as essentially said the same thing away. she said, we don't want anything to do with this. bulgarian says, we don't really want to have anything to do with the french president comes out and we the, you should have a separate dollar dialogue with, with russia. and then the german chancellor says, we need what a, what a fresh start with russia. so i mean, who is listening to whom here? because if you listen to the general general secretary b, nato's dalton, burton says, nato is unified. well, that's simply not true. ok. i mean, the think if there was a plan, it's not out very well. that's why i said in my introduction, you will,

will washington in london prevail? because not everybody's reading from the same script. go ahead in new york. yes, i have been talking to some of the diplomats and as you said, the position does not seem to be united as spoken to with europe in western diploma . they seem to let the bit differ from the american side, which is really like here pushing sort of against grain against russia. on the other hand, europe seems to be a little bit more reserved in this. and i think we could see it also in 2008 when germany and france, they sort of blocked the membership of your brain and ga nato. and i think sort of is, is atmosphere. and this trend is still the bit here. and of course, based on the outside, they seem to stop or do united states, but it's those like behind the closed door down a little bit more cautious actually what they do and it's yeah,

i like center that it's very curious to me on the outside. you know, yes, we are all allies and we do believe in all of these principles. but when you get down to the nitty gritty, they say what's in it for us here. i mean, because look, i mean, if you look at the history of nato expansion, it's basically been cost for, it's been cost free for the countries to get into it because there was no real threat. but the more to keep you keep the alliance meaningful, relevant, you have to keep expanding, but when you keep expanding, you're going to come in, meet a threat because russia does not see nato is a friendly alliance. and so you have this country, ukraine that wants to get in when i was, and everybody says, oh my goodness, nato could be a target. all members of nato could be for a target. and then, you know, we didn't sign up for this. we're supposed to be cost free, you know, they were supposed to be, you know, we, we were going to be the, the greatest alliance and history that never has to fight a war. now that reality is coming home, go ahead. alexander. well, i think it is all sides. if you train doesn't join nato and i didn't use the credit

. so because, 1st of all, where you cram it be terrible because that would mean essentially, there is always a danger that there was some kind of a confrontation with russia, which would damage ukraine's economy. it's a psychological, just challenging those thing that there's a good be a war around the corner. it's bad for, for europe because they also have to live with that with that kind of mentality as well. and a lot of things, but for russia as well. so from, for, for most people, and for most countries, we're actually better. if you grad, she said, look, we will not be joining nato. and i think than the world and the end you create especially just done towards actually developing the country into economy. and i should building better ties, but i said, i haven't been here. we have to go to heartbreaking out that hard break will continue our discussion on some real new stay with our team. ah, humanity always wants the impossible day. first day said to the government, please probably new government b. they say similar to any of the or please don't touch my my pride with my phone.

thanks my business. don't touch my feet. and this is an impossible contradiction. join me every 1st on the alex simon. sure. i'll be speaking to guess in the world. politics. sport, business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. ah, welcome at the cross doctor. all things are considered i'm peter labelle. this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real news. ah, he was going back to alexander. i was going to be forward to the break. you're trying to finish your point. you have the opportunity to do that right now. please do. yes. as i was saying, it's better for ukraine, especially if it doesn't join nato for the reason which i outlined. but i also

should just mentioned that the point about nate and not being a threat to rush. i mean, if you're not a lot among so circles now, what is that a for century? you know, it doesn't really make any sense anymore. you know, because if it's not a threat to russia, then why does it keep moving forward? you know, in many ways. but it does also come back to the point of just understanding concerns of each nation. i just want to bring quickly the point of an example of when to rush or try to sell the cruise missiles to iran. ready in 2020, i mean, does states start to threaten with sanctions? you know, they're, they're an absolute circle back now. why? because they have certain national interest. that's fine. that's understandable. and therefore russia has their interest related to ukraine. so it should be a level playing game and it's not right now and that's the, the chrysler problem. so let me think, what is this really all about? because it seems to me, it is much more kind of a, a psychological in philosophical problem. we have a right to expand it,

that's what it gets down to. and you should you have, you're not, you, you should not be allowed to say no to us. is this what it's getting down to because everyone on this program is an agreement here. i mean, it's compromising the entire security architecture of europe. if one country cannot enhance is security at the expense of another that was enshrined in the helsinki final act that everybody agreed to. and now, you know, no, it doesn't apply. i mean, this is very selective here. and it is alexander just said to us, is that what is the purpose? i mean, well, how is it a defensive alliance? needs to expand that don't expend defensive alliances maintain what they have already. vladimir, you know, well, they have a structure architecture in place. and you know, people, when something works, they don't like to change it, you know, sort of way. i think americans,

i should have been if you did a great deal on war. they were in charge of things. they were generally be able to do. there is a danger and you know, the origins of nato and all this in europe. remember what they said, you know, the cube, russia out in germany, and i think erickson's in, in the americans. this is, and you know, the minute germany wants to set something they call to washington every monday. they still have american military. that is basically, you know, russians with germany. that was the whole thing started there with eastern germany. they will promise is that they spend a minute and i don't do the state, they expand, you know, but when you listen to, you know, west and you say, what was it when russia come in, they never leave rational, left half of you just go ahead,

do what you are and join the job, and you can do well, a sort of down rush out, and i think it works for them and somehow in reference to try to address it in a tension. but i think all the, all american assumptions we've used to move in the, you know, i brought up in past programs the historical parallel of the cuban missile crisis. and then this is from the russian perspective. believe this is the cuban missile crisis in reverse. ok, i will remind our audience that kennedy told krista, if you don't remove those missiles, we will. and this is exactly what the russians have gotten themselves down to saying, look, we're giving you advance. notice you put a intermediate range missiles on ukraine's border, pointing us,

we have no choice but to react. we have to protect our national security. this was the same argument that kennedy made with crew show. and going to be said, you can talk about somebody, you can talk about alliances until the cows come home. but those missiles are pointing at us. ok, we will do something about it. why can't the, the diplomatic classes were? why can't they understand that analogy to this in the present moment? go ahead in new york. so here i think for them it's difficult to sort of talk to each other because when you center the security council, it's bunch of statements are yelling at each other with their state, but it's not really dialogue the ones they wanted to have the close meetings, the sort of allow this kind of dialogue and to have more privacy and expressions and not to have this prepared statements from the capitals. but the u. s. didn't want that. so i have not seen them really talking to each other. they are basically

just after once talking to the reporters and as i have spoken to them, they even say they don't meet each other a privately a because of this reason. so only if there are some there in a group together. so it seems very, very slow on this. and currently there have been a discussions about their dis, 100000, the soldiers which the u. s. and europe has been talking about then today counts from and yesterday rush center. he had this press conference here and he was answering this to direct mergers that he has no idea there and this number is coming from. so they really don't have this kind of dial up to get, or at least here on is it really on our ice, essentially, alexander, i'm glad that link brought up this number thing, you know, 100140000, whatever the 100000 troops. and they're talking about that are deep inside brush it

on the border of ukraine. however, it's never spoken about how the ukranian army has 125000 troops on the line of contact of the don bass. that is never mentioned there. ok. russia is not telling you the creating an army what it should do inside of ukraine. why would it it's ukraine? but the western world seems to feel it has the right to tell russia what to do with its military within its own borders. alexander? yeah, well you know, as we have been talking about 11 thing i remember it was back in, i think 2012, the hillary clinton who was the secretary of state, but then she actually commented on the eurasian economic union. so specifically saying, look, the key for the states is to ensure that it doesn't expand, especially that doesn't survive or something along those lines. you know, they actually do steps to ensure that happens to ensure that you train doesn't join, which would have been a massive wind for russia. and ever since that there just kept going and trying to

basically provoke russia into making mistakes and making mistakes, which would then allow the west to sanction them. so it's interesting to know, for example, how many lethal weapons have been provided to ukraine over the last you know, months, for example, even you know, the u. k has done so read it is by the fact that the u. k is struggling economically following the, the pandemic. i'm sure the and would. ready have been more wise, it's spent inside the country in the u. k, rather than in the ukraine, but fine, but the point is, even when russia is talking about lessening the engagement of western powers. will you claim, even during that point, though, has continues to provide lethal 8? so you crane, i'm again imagine if russia contin to do that with iran, for example, lisa late provide a to, to run, you know, you can imagine what kind of response they would be. so the point is, i think there are different interest among the western countries where we spoke about, i think, for the united states, it's all about keeping russia down. what was the thing it was in europe?

i think the us so in circles don't want to have a better relationship with russia. but unfortunately for now, united states has like 100, not a given the, the legacy of the cold war. it's just that it gets down to the following, for me, is that russia in the ice of western western leads, they lost the cold war and there are consequences for losing. and you have no right to be treated as an equal. i mean, it gets down to that in my opinion, and plus, you know, the kind of demon is ation of russia and russians through popular culture, russia gay didn't help much. ok. i mean, it just, it, there's no recognition of legitimate rights, and that's why we have this quote unquote crisis. go ahead. one or one of the said things. you know, that it's very hard to pick up when you're in united states. really got to pick up on the national group and any religious group or anything without some kind of pushback, except when it comes to russian russians just as it's

a free for all you know. but you can find even the rest of the because kind of all they can find is limit, but they sort of give the big speeches in congress we need to sanction before a sanctions on russia, you know, is unimaginable just, you know, everybody, it cost them nothing they, they should, they show, but i mean, let's say you over this is jason, from what i understand, i say, you know, chinese president is much stronger, you know, does it normally lead to whatever? so they, you know, they do not challenge china today and forget about so many other countries. you know, they gotta be, they would say something about it. you know, the whole thing, you know, that he says it is big scandal with personality will go. she said something with pride, german, racial, racial, racial behaviors, or no of course, wasn't about to raise right away from there. but with the russians,

you can say anything, anything goes and you know, and when the russians complain, when i was, when normal americans listen, people complete this live to be put in boards. you know, brain was last into the brain was, and then i'm going legitimacy. so just any other sort of culture given, would you do me a united states and probably, well, i can well, imagine the names you can call. i know what i've been called lincoln, let me go back to you in new york, you know, doing the diplomatic beat. do you have a sense that the, there a diplomatic solution, a diplomatic understanding is in the air, or is it really way beyond that? it's going to be individual leaders and countries that aside the outcome of this go ahead. so here in year the diplomats are basically reflecting what is going on in the capital in washington and moscow. we can hear all the time that they are open

to a dialogue that they want to talk to each other in their speech is it's becoming a clear shot. and, but i have to say that in the middle of february, we are going to have a meeting on agreement. it's going to be a regular yearly meeting. it's actually during the russian president. ok link. what we're really rapidly running out of time. but don't you think that debate on minutes should have happened to go and not, not, and take it later this month anyway? it's all the time we have want to thank my guest in new york, boston and, and len lancaster. i want to thank our viewers for watching is here, are you seeing next time? remember? ah, ah, ah, kaiser's finances survival guide liquid assets are those that you can convert into cash quite easily. but keep in mind, no as the domain to inflation get to watch,

guys reported what happened. i make no, certainly no borders line to tease and you as a merge, we don't have authority. we don't to look back. see, the whole world leads to take action and be ready. people are judgment, common crisis with we can do better, we should be doing better. everyone is contributing each in their own way. but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is great, the response has been massive, so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we're in it together with

ah, with western media abandon the principle of leaving politics all to sports with wal mart green commentary coming to the for as the beijing winter olympics kick off. also i heard you just come out and say this with without you showing a shred of evidence, that is actually true. us state department suppose person is grilled by journalist failing to provide evidence for a sensationalist us claim that rushes preparing of both like a type as a pretext to invade ukraine.