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i'm african retention, you're what you're going underground after a phone call between putin and johnson who the kremlin appears to have characterized as utterly confused coming up with a show as u. k. pm lawrence johnson. arguably braces for war, both at home and abroad. we analyze a week that is arguably shattered, damning light. number 10, antics. while the donation troops had towards eastern europe to prepare for battle and 24 hours up to the beijing winter olympics. opening ceremony, we investigate whether there will be repercussions for native nation and allied diplomatic boycott bulletin will, coming up in today's going underground. but 1st, this week you gave me bars. johnson temporarily escaped from his m p. 's at home and paid a visit to ukraine's capital care where he threatened russia with de facto military action and sanctions at one russian soldiers tow cap across the border into ukraine . this is a growing number of british m. p. 's offering no confidence vote on johnson's
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leadership. after a censored report into alleged criminal government, covered law violations was released this week. well, joining me now from beck and field in the u. k. is the chairman of the campaign for conservative democracy, john strafford. thank you so much, john for coming on, i gotta ask the obvious question. he won one of the largest conservative majorities for your party in recent years. he successfully enabled bricks it so that we were able to get out the european medical agency so that there could be mass vaccination against coven. you're the conservative can pay the conservative democracy is not democratic to get rid of your leaders, it causes democratic. i mean, that's the whole purpose of democracy is that you can change your leaders, change your crime is to change your government without having to have a bloody revolution. and that's the way it works in the united kingdom. in spite of the fact that we have got false within our democracy,
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we are able to be critical all our prime minister and our leaders. and that's all to do with free speech. but, but of course, he's not just the electorate, it is the m p 's in parliament, we will have the say over johnson's fate. yes. and that is one of the, one of the boat lines in the conservative party needs to actually get more accountability within its own organization. and by that, i mean the following. first of all, i and the conservative party chairman should be elected by an accountable to the membership. secondly, they should be proper motions at the concert party conference, and the constituency associations should have the right without interference of selected their own candidates. and by doing this, what will happen is that at a party conference ministers would have to listen to the questions and answer the
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question to the party membership. and it is because the parties become so centric controlled that it is lost touch with its members. and that means that it is touch with the electorate large as labor bodies, arguably moving in the other direction. you can compare it with the labor party because it's totally different to be controlled by the trade unions. unfortunately, increasingly, the conservative body has been being controlled by the fact cap, bankers and h fund managers. and that's what are the folks in our system at the moment. but i was unable to deny my labor denies that, but i just wanna ask you then do you sense on the ground grass roots conservative members supporting what you're saying is i do a website concern. you know,
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a majority of party members want to see or is resign and go and clear the voters do as a result of the child part gate situation, which is the process. i was brought it permission to ahead as to whether he should stay on it as prime minister. i mean, the reality is it a political problems is urging towards the united kingdom, or is it just sitting there on the beach like in a way and what has happened is that the people to realize that boys may think that each came to the well. but he's a king with no clothes, and in particular, he's got no conservative clothes. and the members of the party realized this and also the pages of real life as well. and what the party members want to see
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is traditional conservative values in conservative policies. they want to see low tax, a small state, strong on defense, stronger or in order for pushing forward freedom, democracy, liberty, and justice. these are traditional conservative values that boris johnson is totally, totally ignoring of the world. a reference to what is i think says to said when he was a child, what i mean took about defense. he flew in to give to maybe start a war with russia. i mean, a, i mean that, that's just what you're glad. anyways, you're glad you don't think that you know, because there's a wag the dog to get away from his problems home. that's why he went to in the midst of although i don't think so. i don't think people see it like that at all. i think they went to ukraine to show the support for ukrainian government
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and that was a reasonable thing to do. but i'm, i'm quite happy to say a situation. go ahead. all right, well i think it when you train them, what you fail to understand is that within the united kingdom that there are still family and national memories of the 2nd world war. and i it was affected by that because my father was killed in it's 8944. and when i was just a year old. so i have no memories of him whatsoever. and that 2nd world war built out by germany gain
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just today to land and then get it back year and a level chamberlain, the prime minister then try to appease hitler and it didn't work. and your father, your father was fighting on the same side as the russians. obviously, they were kill you seriously comparing vladimir putin who supported the u. s. as with hitler? no, no, i'm not, not the bank. but i'm saying that you've got to understand that. and the people in the united kingdom saw the build up to the 2nd world war. and they are very worried when they see due to having a 100000 troops on the border of ukraine or 20000 in bella, roost. and, well, what i would like to see is much more dialogue between united kingdom and russia.
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and you quite rightly pointed out during the say we were partners, we worked together to a get rid of it. well, it seems to me that what we should be doing now is 2 things. first of all, i would hope that eventually we could get russia to join nato and become partners within the nato organization. we should be working towards that kind of situation because that's kind of trust that one needs to happen within countries. but secondly, it be a democrat, i believe the people that determine their own future rather than i'm a suspended. so dictators and a water should happen in my view. is it a try me and the eastern crane and grade? they should be referendums of the people as to what they want for their
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futures. and they defend them should be conducted by international organization to the new drug i already has. there already has been a referendum already. has been a referendum in crimea. obviously yes, i would consider all doubt on how that was whether it was great. we conducted what i'm saying is that they were international observers, and i should also say, i should also say of course nato membership was discussed in 1091. but that idea seems to be firmly off the table. i do want to get back to johnson. why should it be off the table? well, that's why we install it if we're trying to move forward in the future, they just think kind of thing that should be discussed. yeah, that's what we install them. it doesn't seem to be having any of that. and of course the as off battalion in ukraine where we're sending
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a weapons is linked to elements that, that would have been on the other side, i think in the 2nd world war. but back that johnson you're saying he's not doing anything, will leave the leveling of announcement to one side because it's very controversial about what the money is. what about the energy decisions that he's making to mitigate energy increase is kind of i think you've mentioned that it, in a sense, it's subsidizing us here to producing companies while subsidizing pro, like green measures. at the same time, it's been an absolute man. we shouldn't be subsidized again, that's not a conservative approach to a man. it should be left to the markets to decide on these issues. and the 00 carbon emissions a mag policy in the united kingdom. it produces at most 2 percent of the carbon dioxide of the world. and the idea that we will affect the temperature in by
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stopping everything and backed up to the country. the process is just nonsense. and this is where i already got out of touch with the party members, and that's a policy that is going to change. and in addition to which it was announced that all the regulations is he's going to keep it in place in order to pursue the regulations on there that he's absolute madness. and it shows a lack of judgement. in my view, aside from the police investigation, johnson said that he is pursuing all the alleged fraud that took place during this groan of ours. pandemic. who do you believe worth? johnson or lord agnew? the count to fraud minister who resigned to the dispatch books claiming that counter fraud measures are of just just not up to scratch. and i think
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a very honorable man and i, i trusted 100 percent. i'm afraid i don't have that trust in boris. i'm afraid of the last couple of years. he is lost all trust that i hadn't a survey reported. there is a failure of leadership and judgement in number 10 downing street and i look back to the president jefferson and the u. s. president. when he said that, when he came to judgment, you had a choice of either believing the professor all the time. and he would always believe the power because the professor would say on the one hand is on the other. whereas the pounds from the gotten spent from the speech for the people. and i believe the people are the ones who should determine these matters and that way
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forward. john strafford, thank you. you're welcome. after the break, we investigate who's playing political games that this he has when drill and big as nato nations disengage from the international community to give may june of cross to reception. all of them all coming up about 2 of going underground. and this is all smart city, is a city that using technology to make people's life easier to happier, collecting a lot of data to try to improve the way things are in theory, these big organizations that are now the meeting and pulling all that data together . they're not looking at you as an individual, necessarily lose data being collected or so much data that there's a real possibility or privacy violation with something most of us wouldn't want to wells transparency,
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but we must live with permanent surveillance better bio survival guide, a big pedal with creation came when we get the rest in 7 years, a report ah, welcome back. it's 24 hours after several major nations and their allies stop the bay. jing winter olympics fire, a diplomatic boycott of its opening ceremony over alleged human rights abuses this days after china celebrated the lunar new year. and as we enter the year of the tiger in the woods, the son sous art of war. unless you enter the tiger's lair, you cannot get hold of the tiger's cubs. could this be symbolic of economic and political repercussions from nato nations after the boycott?
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joining me now from new york to someone who has spoken out against the boy got ceo of interpersonal intelligence advisory vip just well, thanks so much of it for coming on for us. johnson's government following jo biden's lead boycotting the olympics, is going to make a big difference, didn't seem to make any big difference to the opening ceremony. not at all. for the simple reason, if you look at the history of the lympics, i mean they've been about 7 to 8 boy got um nothing's been achieved, the world and change anything. it's ineffective, irrelevant, inconsequential, you know, the olympics are governed by the i o. c. not china. and, and these are the playground tactics that present a leadership is trying to use as a strategy. they just have toxic consequences. i mean, you know, this is just a reflection of incompetent leadership. we're not able to negotiate effectively or come to some sort of resolution. i mean, how sad is it for me in my country to be sending our athletes who are at their
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prime or performing for our country and not have their leadership with? well, i'll get on to what add to the blanket of joe white and say, and johnson, but even you who are contracted to promote early games. i must be surprised that i way way an opponent of the chinese government is said, the west boy, god is futile. and pointless. china does not care about it at all. china is not auditioning for any one's approval. able don't seem to understand that, but they won't tolerate being disrespected. you know, we're in a serious position where they might not forgive and they might not forget. well, i should also say that in the united states the something called the american values and security and internationals athletics act and acted by biden on december 27th. 2021 included in the national defense authorization act appears to mandate
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as reminded by the us foreign relations committee. the briefing of all us athletes competing in the winter games about the human rights abuses and safety concerns exists in to the host nation i. e. china, what do you think of all the u. s. athletes having to be educated about the evils of china? are they also being educated about the good of china? and if they have all this concern, why are they sending the athletes to china? flip flop, leadership is only going to lead you down a slippery slope. so all this, no. i find it bizarre that you're giving a history lesson that isn't necessarily balanced. and remember we are guests in the host country. so is it a case of much ado about nothing? i think so. yeah. but in fan, the sporting boy quintillion, south africa against nazi germany, surely were important. shouldn't the chinese government instead of just dismissing
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this and saying, so politicizing the games they should act of any be saying that there is no genocide and jin chang rather than saying don't politicize the games to joe biden, numbers, jones? well, i think the united nations general secretary of saying exactly that, you know, these are the facts. we have 3000 athletes coming in from 90 countries. the united nations secretary general has himself said that, you know, in the spirit of games, let's observe. a truce nbc, in this country, because who have the exclusive broadcasting, right? as an example, they have sold out of their advertising inventory for this whole period of the game . they've secured a 100 advertises, and the, and the, the rates they're charging are higher. this time round than they were for the 2018 olympics. so in this whole shot to limits of, of opinion and exterior added score. we have the majority of the
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world. want to put aside the differences and maintain the olympics as a global event where nations come together and if they can come together constructively. hopefully, it can build relationships constructively, surprised that these countries, usa, australia, calhoun, denmark, japan, lithuania and britain on saying to void caught a chinese products of chip, say, an apple computers and m. o one would really amuses me. i am. the irony of it is not last. we have so called smart leaders are using smartphones made in china, trying to send out ridiculous messages on some social media platforms are made in china. ah, it's, it's, like i said, the irony of it is not last. maybe there's chinese companies should have some in those electronic devices to prevent them damaging their businesses. and you know
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that a, apparently there will be a lot of teaching of history of china as part of the cultural events that surround the wind to games. he's only a little bit about that because i know that you, you've said that l. so social media will be used in a ever more sophisticated way. and to tell the world about a about china. well, you know, my, so oh, we're acting it in an advisory capacity. and our objective is to promote awareness, engagement and excitement of this event for the and, and promote a good sense of good cheer for the olympic athletes and team usa. we're using social media stars from the genres of food, fashion entrepreneurs and ex olympians using social media platforms like instagram, take talk, twitch and youtube, and really we just, you know, up highlighting the good of this event. but not,
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i think it genocide as a rick scott claims at what he who make, i mean, he hasn't written too big us multinational companies about the fact that they are technically foreign agents. i don't know the selling products made in china. what did you make of the fact he rode to lee editor global editor in chief of news. we the chief executive officer of newsweek complaining that you. i mean, he didn't say they should ban you from being able to write in a publication. but effectively saying that they should print a warning every time you write for the magazine, i write to bring your attention to a troubling issue with one of the music's contributors. vip jess, while a registered foreign agent readers should be informed or disclaim. mine is biography, his shilling for a genocidal regime. makes me sound like a criminal, isn't it? but the fact is that senator rick scott suffers from
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a dereliction and distraction of duty. and i do question it's judgement of priorities. considering the, the chair of authority that he occupies. i mean he chose me to meet his 1st order of p r business in 2022. considering that his own state and various issues that they will coping with, like co bid and, and a few other things um, you know, and all of this, i do feel sorry for him because he even treated it out. and i don't have to criticize him. and of course, i'm not being derogatory, i'm merely being descriptive and i called him a suck some sandals, kind of guy. you know, he treated it out and his followers attacked him. i wouldn't say they came to my defense, but the attack and they attacked him on his position on, on the 6th of june. the capital riots on the 6th of january attacked him for his
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position and the largest medicare fraud in the history of the united states. they attacked him when he was deposed how he invoked the 5th amendment 75 times. okay. but he was democratically elected to the senator after that medicare would fine. i mean, what do you think about taking a job with a country that is routinely? i mean, people don't want job coverage in january. we have actually challenged the official nato narrative. it's, i'm might see it was it like to work for a country that is a routinely in a donation media accused of, of genocide. well, actually we this contract that i have got to do more with the olympics as a global event. and it's a social outreach campaign. this is not a so called influential campaign that people are projecting it to be. you know,
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i've been involved in this so called swamp of people giving opinions like m a chill journalists, professional crows, and one or 2 senile sandwiches. and of course, like i said, you know, i'm not being derogatory, i'm being descriptive. i'll give you, well, i mean even in an actual genocide you wouldn't actually take the job from the nazis if the games were in munich and we were back in the 19 thirty's, no one was so simple as that. but i've received death threats. i've received death wishes i and now you know, i have nothing to hide, everything is filed with the department of justice. it's accessible to it. what i should say. i mean, when you say no, and would, of course, a lot of american companies were involved in that. in the nazi a games in us multinationals, people can read about their history of that. do you think or do you think there is something of joe mccarthy in these attacks on people trying to promote trying to make this winter's games a success in beijing?
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oh, absolutely. i mean, but in my example, the people are trying to sabotage and mon marginalize. my pets, but, but to what gain i'm, i'm still confused when it helped jo biden's, popularity. obviously i'm speaking to you from a country where boris johnson is under threat. his leadership, biden's poll ratings are very low. do you think that they see it to their advisor? see, it is important to attack other countries as a means of showing them their power on the world stage. i don't think it shows power on the world stage it'll, it'll come and pass like everything else we living in of such a fast, new cycle. and once, once this is over, within a week or even we'll move on. and i'm sure there will be lots of social media tweets, showing pictures of the u. s. athletes and athletes all around the world. have any idea of what the athletes must feel competing in a competition which is being diplomatically boycotted by their own governments?
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well, i'm sure they'll feel sad on the day when this, when they see their peers from other countries and then the ship around to support them and they are, you know, on their own. and it doesn't help if they are sort of the so called their education they getting before they go, it only adds the fear and, and it could affect that performance psychologically. so you know, we should be a part of the united nations and the general sector himself has said that in let's observe a cruise we should be going with as positive mindset as, as possible. and if i media reports to us, that the international community is boycotting this, he has went to games of aging. what? sure what it's of and viewing or listening to that kind of media coverage, i think i guess they'd be intrigued what i want to do with
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live jess. well, thank you. thank you. that's it for the show. well, we back on monday, 8 years since the 22nd window gonna be games opened. and so g, russia that also saw protests and calls for boycott until then, keep in touch by all our social media. let us know if you think bay jennings olympic games should be boycotted over human rights allegations. ah. you are chatting with chinese students and the sub boshoway she can. hi sharon, my name is rob lee with a latoya. this is judy with she been wholesale and kelly recording court and i renewed my financial nike assured that i was young with of
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