on line, but kendall's visor now is developed as thriving business in private security. and he recently won that monthly 1000000 pound contract. well tin spices with me now tim? good morning. what's your summary of the situation in terms of chaos or lauren? older, i would advise people to go that if the measures in put in place for their protection, all sound mm. contract in iraq was to oversee the communication and coordination for all of the private security companies from the ground with infected make that they were the general in charge of all the private contracts. at that point, the us military was the largest military presence in iraq. but he's added together all of the private military contractors. spicer was effectively in charge of the 2nd largest, unfortunate. mm. spicer

is a fairly well known figure in british political and media circles. mm hm. but at the time of the award of the contract for iraq, it was awarded by a on logistics contracting sell in virginia, not in iraq by a group of essentially acquisition bureaucrats who had no experience with the private military industry. no knowledge of the different players. and referred to him as that british guy from, with

ah, in the world of private security contractor. when they heard that this company called aegis one this contract and that the people that were working for him were south africans and not america. there was, there was furious when you're applying for these contracts. your bid will include you and your business, his personal history. it doesn't say, you know, by the way, we were involved in this international controversy that almost costs a foreign minister. his job with b g 's prisons in iraq was relatively expensive for you have one video which was posted on youtube for each is contract i who is a finite gung while playing rock music with

no legal actions. what type of what do your weapons in this battle in iraq? foot for me, it's a, it's the ability to coordinate and, and continue to help the reconstruction effort. ah, very rapidly, he just became a huge company. and it made tim spy, said extremely healthy. non majority of americans now think it was a mistake to go to war in iraq. early in the iraq war, the president stood before a banner that said, mission accomplished 3 and a half years later, the debate is back over why the u. s. as in iraq, in the 1st place, public support for the war is falling. more americans want the troops to come home . a brief ceremony on

a base on the edge of baghdad, the united states took down the flag of its command here to mark the end of the military mission. the u. s. money was starting to be pulled out of the rocky field refreshes and the industry had to go to a very complicated reset. this companies had to realize that they weren't gonna get that level of money again. i'm so they had to offer different package of deals with that meant they would have to hire cheapest soldiers lou

monday would work order. wouldn't want that that much more. no, no. when i'm alone. more sure. with i work with. ready ready going was gonna bad young the last one. okay. good moment. what talk? well, i used that, so i'm not that bad enough. i did you math math. and before i got drugs, the always use you. i see mom, you can watch anything if you are hardly going to show for good about it. if i don't show anything and if you you mind also if you finish or

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ah, ah, i'll work undertaken by egypt is carried out to higher standards of professional competence and integrity. our track record is extensive and our highly trained men, women are dedicated to support the mission at hand with outstanding performance. when we 1st started into theater, we were briefed on peruvian and colombian guards, and the natural question you ask is, so what do you pay for these folks? and i don't at the time and i'm playing off memory cells, but i'm pretty good at that was about $1000.00 to $1200.00 and then oh, i don't know. 6 months, a year ago, it became a garden guards at about $800.00

a month. and we'd ask the question of security companies because of this lowest price, technically acceptable rush to the bottom is what some call it white white garments now versus provings. and colombians, i said we don't have a chance to get the award unless be use a guidance because there are $2.00 to $400.00 less. and now on this most recent trip, the, the company that is winning all the awards that had this, i was 1st i'd heard of, well, well, we've got a good strategy. we're using sierra leonean until you asked the question so, so what are we paying forms? but $250.00 a month. well, you know, i, i guess rhetorically, i don't expect an answer. you know, to can go a lower. can we find someone, it's like, we'll do it for boarding room. you know, that has such a terrible country that maybe they'll just go out of the country and be a free security guard. i mean, that's pretty inexpensive. i say that it sounds facetious, but it's real. know who you get, what you pay for blue

me in the original goal was not to bring soldiers or soldiers from the poorest countries on earth, but the u. s. bidding system requires that you pick the lowest better. so the became the status quo and iraq to have multiple layers of foreigners i reckon people for where they came from and who they fought for so. so that would be with the colombian marines. and as a i used to be with range in the you again, as you know, came out of the, again, an army of the challenges that i was with when i spent a month in blackwater from pinochet's private guard. and some of these countries are known for extremely good wars,

whether it's columbia severally own. and there's not a lot of discussion about where did your like, so long as you are in the army and you meet certain criteria. and sometimes you don't have to be in the army to meet this criteria. so the u. s. system, and of course, any business is going to put out a specification. if you can match the specification and your cost is lower than you in the job, ah, ah, in october $962.00 in a period known as the cuban missile crisis, the united states. and then the soviet union were on the brink of war. fast forward to february 2022 and the americans and russians find themselves in a similar to a powerless situation. this time on the russian ukrainian border will diplomacy as in 1960 to be enough to prevent war in 2022.

ah. you're chatting with bob boshoway shakeelah. hi sharon, i'm wish wish right with me. right? yeah. look over the summer group. move she them wholesale. well, i mean kelly recording court and i renewed my for my tissue of the public didn't get to i learned that to me for she gave us and i must be happy. i can. i'm of fact not enough that you can think of that. no, cuz he asked him, you myakea to push him um with the money that i can live with

of this. so you cut your cost, you make more profit, you get the soldier that you want. but you also majorly dilute. the professionalism and the effectiveness of those so the company has felt the interest different than national interest companies are problematic, is what they do natural. except here, we're not creating toys, we're producing things that result in war. the

what do you do if you have somebody from the philippines working for an american, having the company in afghanistan, who tell somebody what jurisdiction does that person fall under? we don't know international law such that it doesn't really have a category for arm civilians. the so several governments including the british and the government decided to start creating international norms and standards of how these probably most we should behave. ready kind of contact was instigated or started by which ones in the international community. a group of companies and engineers and states got together.

and they formulated a sort of a self regulatory car to contact these companies for companies. would sign up to this code. promising they would not violate it, they would not commit human rights, atrocities are not committed, war crimes, etc. so you can point to wow, representatives of a couple of nations. and oh, by the way, the private military themselves got around the table in switzerland and they agreed about good norms to aim for her to contact you not work. the idea that a company would voluntarily confess crimes if committed abroad. just why would they do? the reality is that most golf clubs have more enforcement mechanisms than these kind of documents i

and about 15 countries, i've been involved and programs to reintegrate children who are served in armed forces or it's a contradiction in terms on the one hand western countries have pump large sums of money into the reintegration of former child soldiers. but now we have governments like the u. s. supporting the so called security companies that recruit people and continue their exposure to violence and cement their identities as perpetrators of violence as soldiers that make it impossible to ever reintegrate into civilian life . ah, now i was then in a few hours

my drug professional drill is his weapon. ah, ah, at one time, when the rockets came into our camp, kill a lot of crucial francis hours on top of our look. and then we had to exclude you on a 2nd place. i think about swallowing when people are dying on the street. the explosion is sticking out all over the city. and at any time how to going to show how to ball or whatever explosion. i think about my going to what happens. yeah, before. ah .

20 the groceries in iraq. d. a 1st team for iraqi more stated and intended to become for force a should very many member so dishes to walk. i mean what to have them insured on your machine. i don't know if we're running into come in came didn't come fighting for what i like. i say around and try to for anita. ah, i feel easy. i did. i don't, you know, it's not a good one because a one in douglas,

and i'm just as makes me kick off away from the issues me. and they seem like an actor for well as not young people unfairly and have no jobs are desperate to feed themselves and their families and result is that it becomes harder and harder to ever find their way back into civilian life and a scene of violence wherever they go, well we always remember wanting, i'm the my stuff, my wife when she, when i, when i have a wife one, i should continue watching the work. it's a weapon because i'm full on turn off. which mean i can do anything with the former child soldiers have been trained to take pride in their skill and their

ability to, to kill people. i think it's affection to claim that they are somehow stable, that they can self regulate as well known that young people who have extensive history of violence and being fed drugs and manipulated over time they develop problems of impulsivity high levels of aggression. it becomes very difficult to change the mindset. it's spacious to say that they've been carefully selected or that they're, that it's safe to hand them a gun and expect them to do a quote, professional job. ah, you know, i spend my life working to aid the rehabilitation and the regression of young people and it pains me see my own government supporting the behavior so called security companies. you know, we pride ourselves on being

a moral people trying to do the right thing. what we're doing is we're exploring people using young people who've been child soldiers, deliberately sung them into the jaws of combat and further violence. nothing could be worse for these young people. nothing could be worse for security. when there's a close connection between this industry and policy makers. mm. mm. these private military firms really poach a retired general officers and admirals from the armed forces. i because they have connections in my case really nice. and i mean, i only have the bathroom buying to spread. mm. ah

ah ah, see shoes. it's real. don't you get what to pay for? mm. ah, 5 stretching street will continue to act. full governance. you're going to see private companies, the tree engaging in warfare. these are companies that are interesting auth touches difficulties with bro. how many these companies that

listed allows office and fundamental if your citizen of democracy and your government takes action that you don't agree, you can vote that government town if a company or from the old country is doing something. you disagree with a people carol? lot one dead soldier or dead marine shows up in this country. we start asking

yourself, why did they die? why do what were they fighting for? nobody bothers asked by that contractors all who cares me? there is nobody going to die. and come home in a body bag at denver, or dover, or whatever. ah, every american who serves, joins an unbroken line of heroes. i'm on by their sacrifice. ah, meaning get them in and i look, i'm not food. my doing kind of a coming to them. you will come in and keep the handle. who did he got in on me? what the need a gaudy. ah,

no one protest in the street civil contractors kill ah, ah, country still exercises its foreign policy. the use of force and violence in these 4 regions is using proxies, contractors, 3rd country nationals, and in obscuring their role. oh, i, you think that you end up in a wreck and as somebody from here we can fit. it's really your money. it's your tax money doing it,

but making sure the politicians are in trouble. i military contractors make a decision to go to war a lot easier. ah, that's part of ending a war responsibly. his standing by those who fought it. the oh um ah, i me.

ah, ah, me in me, in on, ah, algorithms and neural networks have been following us everywhere. we look online because our relationships are what matters most to us. and that's how we find meeting and how we make sense um, are placing the silicon valley see,

don't mention in that slick presentations. however, the ghost workers who train the software humans are involved in every step of the process when you're using anything online. but we're sold, as is miracle of automation behind your screen. it's available workforce that feeds algorithm is for next to nothing. on a very good day, i could do $5.00 now. a really bad day. i could do 10 since he's workers are invisible by design. it's about labor costs, but it's also about creating layers of lesson responsibility between those who solicit this kind of work and need it. and those who do it with

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