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and so bad i, he is deploying thousands of troops with actually threatening sanctions. and i don't know how many countries in the world united states now, sanctions obviously, or will hurt the average russian man, woman and child of sanctions or not. i mean, they're considered economic warfare. yeah, no, and again, i think number 11 of the things that we need to recognize is that the world is already at war in terms of cyber wars and everybody's, you know, interfering with one another sometimes interfering in their elections. these things are going on constantly between nations while at the same time, their style simultaneously working together. so i think that, you know, when we look at economic sanctions, i think the russians have been pretty clear that this isn't going to break them either. they have a lots of cash. they have lots of reserves in the short term, economic sanctions are not going to break them. but i don't think that russia is
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going to invade ukraine, which will avoid a lot of the sanctions that the state department is talking about. but i'm also, and what's wrong with your cable news like you were just talking about, given that there's so much of it is having rolling news, saying and, and is in fact biden's pentagon that has been saying and then it dropped the would imminent invasion by russia that was abiding administration would. i think there was lots of question to the state department in the past few days about why they've dropped eminent. was it a mistake that they said imminent and new cable news channels? i mean, m s, n, b c. as on the other ones, i mean putin is like hitler and they're going to invade and there's gonna be well, 2 or 3. 1 of the things that happens a lot in our cable news here in the united states, as we love to compare people to hitler. and i think that that's offensive on so many levels. we like to compare things to slavery. we like to compare things to hitler and these kind of hyperbolic ways. and i think that that's a mistake. i do, i, you know, do i think that vladimir putin is always, you know, in the right?
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absolutely not, but i think a comparison with him and, and hitler i think is, is misguided. i knew having said that, i biden isn't just said that directly that goes, it's re offensive to russia. huge last 20000000 fight to fighting. it's i but i mean you have been on the murdock, fox news channel, tucker carlson. do you not find it odd that you have agreements more arguably with took a call soon on fox news. as regards a, a threats to a war and what it would mean for the people of this planet. then you would on a democrat leaning nbc type channel. yeah. well, so i have to be clear that there are a lot of disagree with. i have with tucker carlson on a lot of issues. i don't want to make it feel like we're kindred spirits in that regard. we are friendly. i definitely think that most americans,
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it's just the warmongers on cable news and, and the people who benefit even if it's 10 generally through writing about it. because they're the people that talk about war as if it's, oh, it's just a thing and we can just go to war with everybody. i think americans are tired of war. we were war for 20 years and it netted us nothing. it did nothing for the american people. all it did was traumatized. a lot of our service men and women. it didn't. it did nothing for our economy. we lost billions upon billions of dollars, trillions. actually a wall street wall street went up. i mean, obviously, all the military companies and the companies involved in the occupation of afghanistan, that alone, iraq, if we don't think about the 10s of millions killed wounded to a displays, they made a lot of money, didn't lose it. some people in new york made a lot of money act, and i'd say that that's a very small limited group. i think the vast majority of us, you know, including myself who have family members. this the cost either with lives or with
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psychological trauma, that comes from war. it certainly wasn't worth it. i wasn't worth it to watch even, you know, maybe my stock pro portfolio go up and i don't invest in those companies. but, you know, i think it's, it's been something that's been a traumatic drain upon the american people. we're done with war. we don't want war . um, you know, i think initially when we like to think that, you know, we're defending democracy or we're trying to do something good. and i think a lot of americans came to see war for what it really was. and so i think then by noon so smartly does not want to go into another war. i think he wants to avoid that. i don't think he wants to be the president that leads us into another serious conflict. will you see, you know, some actions happen just like you saw under the last administration or the trump
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administration? yes, but i think that a war and particularly a war with russia would be catastrophic. not only for the united states, not only for russia, but for ukraine, and everyone in the region, just like the war in the middle east was, or wars we had in the middle east was our catastrophic for that region. and that region is still trying to rebuild from the things that we did. we had some photographs of pulling down statues of saddam hussein and all of that. and all i did was destabilize the region and cost more lives, a raise more homes. and we don't, you know, american people that me and he, joe biden was the architect, was an architect of the or a cool. yeah. i know he was, he was part of it, but i think again, you know, after 20 years, so many of you, i mean, everybody was a part of that. everybody kind of advocated for it. that was in the south. and
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jason, i don't know. i said that we now was in government at the time with the exception of barbara jordan. she was not born with your i'm sorry, beverly barbara lee was the only one who stepped out and said, why don't we take a breather? you know what i mean before we go into iraq? i mean, you just said about democracy fighting the democracy. what is all this? i mean you've been tweeting about it, and biden has been trying to do something about. and i mean, did you know, the whole point of the american revolution was to have the book? is he, what do you mean? you know, do you have democracy there at the moment? is, is that why there is a need for freedom to vote acts and the john lewis voting rights act? yeah. and i think that democracy on so many levels and, and from so many directions is, are under threat right now. and i, you know, you say job, i'm so trying to do something about it. i'm saying he's not doing enough. i think that there's many, there are many things that he could be doing. and i think though, the powers of the president of the united states are vast. if there's anything we
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learned from the trump administration, is that the powers of the presidency, our, our, our vast and, and there are many things that he could do or potentially try. i think maybe, you know, some things will be struck down in the courts, but that doesn't give a whole lot of people a lot of confidence. and he just started to make this a priority now and now they realize his popularity is down and he's probably not going or he's going to suffer major losses of midterms. now it's a priority. it should have been a priority from the very beginning when people, particularly in the african american community, were saying that we should be doing something about this. and, and i, i really don't even hotly presumably do badly at the mid terms. partly because he may not be executive ordering voting rights act because of course, african americans and disproportion democrat. yes. um yes, but at the same time i think that i'm african americans,
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they don't necessarily many african americans. they don't see republicans as a viable option. but what they will do is if you don't start to fight for the causes that are going to benefit, african americans have benefit. we're in class people. what they will do is sit on their hands. and if they feel like, you know, nihilistic about voting because you haven't fought for them and you haven't used every resource at your disposal to do it, then they don't come out and they don't turn out and then you suffer major losses. so i think joe biden needs to take every effort to secure voting rights in addition to many other things that he should be doing is joe biden, actually anti racist? i mean, you're saying that he's delaying the voting act that would help african americans vote room in the mid terms. famously joe biden said that the obama was the 1st
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mainstream, african american who is articulate and bright and clean. and his self declared mentor was a ku klux klan, former exalted cyclops sen the terror, robert byrd. i mean this is joe widens background, let alone his sponsorship of the mass incarceration 9094 crime act. yeah. well, 1st of all, i don't know how much time we have. we could go into some of the misunderstandings at a $94.00 crime bill, which was deleterious, but it was not the cause of mass incarceration. the cause of mass incarceration was the 1986 anti drug abuse act, which he also voted for. but if he was not the architect of many elements actually have to be fair to joe biden. here many elements of the $1094.00 crime bill were pushed for by bill clinton and were actually opposed by jo vine which includes 3 strikes. that was something that joe biden is on record as saying was wacko. bernie
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sanders, also who i supported bernie sanders. it was against the $94.00 crime bill but voted for it. why? because it was some behemoth bill that even had the voted, excuse me, violence against women act. now, politically, it would have been suicide to vote against the violence against women act. i think, joe, why do i think joe biden is not doing more right now? i think part of that is and you're right about some of those quotes. of course, joe biden is a 78 year old white dude and in the united states of america. and he has, you know, some views. interesting. france. yeah, and, well, interesting friends. and you know, i would say that all the alternatives, you know, unfortunately in the united states with a lot of our politics, i think we have
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a lot of leaders that have said things and done things that i think are pretty terrible. talk to jason nichols. i'll stop you there more after this break plus on us national black h i v aids awareness day will ebay vaccine against h. i v, affecting any 40000000 people up to the success of vaccines against cove. it all of them all coming up about to i'm going undergrad. ah ah, plenty more, they directly we sell advertise as content to us and decide who sees what content like when and how much of it. facebook claims that these algorithms are there to learn about our specific preferences. actually this is untrue. they are shapely
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preference. if tomorrow a person finds a fake poor, legit, video with saying the earth is flat, then this content ranks. huh. at least 20 percent or maybe even 40 percent believe it's true. it's a very dangerous thing. with join me every 1st bit on the alex simon. sure. i'll be speaking to guess of the world politics sport business. i'm sure business. i'll see you then. mm ah,
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welcome back. i'm still here with award winning lecture of african american studies at the university of maryland college park, dr. jackson. nichols. why did you quote is black history month? the why did you quote the poet, reggie gibson, as americans we actually hate history. what we love is nostalgia and i should say, of course the frederick douglas. i think that's why it's in february in the u. s. a . favors the say. said i have no patriotism. i cannot have any love for this country or its constitution. yeah. so i think there are a lot of things we could say about there. well, in terms of the quote um where you know the gibson quote. basically we like to create narratives in this country. we like to create this narrative that on the united states, any problems we have, we fix that every that. oh, we establish this democracy. that if it's not perfect, it just gets more and more perfect as time goes on and that, you know,
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racism ended with dr. king, you know, we like to create these narratives instead of understanding that history is hard, history is difficult. and we need to confront our history in order to create a more perfect union and, and to bring justice to every community in this country. and a lot of us don't want to reconcile with our history now at a we're at a point where republicans are actually trying to banned books, you know, and not just any books. we're talking children's books about rosa parks and about doctor king and anything that that mentions racism. because we don't want to confront our history, which again, keeps us from confronting our present. we don't love, we don't love history. our history is, is beautiful and it's ugly. you know, i mean countries arguably is a, i will, i'm maybe in black as she, whether it was
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a good a. and with that then critical race theory, of course being the topic of choice of these people not educated, that they don't understand the books about martin luther king junior and critical race period. all these things are very different to howard, they've learned about them, have confusing it with woken, a silly kind of shallow attempt at language changes when it actually comes down to the mass killing of i don't know, millions of native american said alone, the african american slave trade yeah, i think one of the things about our this, this discussion about so call critical race theory. a lot of them are saying, well, it may make our children feel bad when actually racism itself is documented to have deleterious effects like depression and anxiety for children of color. but obviously, we don't value this is part of the discussion. we don't value
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a black and brown children the way we value others in this country. um, so what may happen, you know, which again are, there's no evidence that it's actually happening. you know, it's something that we would value over things that are literally documented and studied. i think it's important to make better citizens for us to acknowledge what's happened throughout our history and our, and our present 3 of my own ancestors that i can trace, we're lynched in. and we need to actually tell that ugly truth. doesn't blaming anybody from the past. anybody from the present for the past, with that saying, is that we need to address, we need to acknowledge the past. so that of course, as cliches and may sounds, we don't repeat it. um democracy anywhere is not. you know, we make it seem like it's always sturdy. it is fragile. and um,
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we have to have knowledge of our history knowledge of our democracy, knowledge or the ways that we've undermined our own ideals in order to keep from doing it again in a future. dr. jay's nichols again. thank you. no, it's a us national black h i v aids awareness staying in the past few days. cove vaccine maker, medulla has begun. trialing m r n a vaccines against h i v, which currently infects nearly 40000000 people around the world. joining me now from london as the executive director of aids map matthew odds and dedicated to educating people on the continuing h i. v. aids epidemic. thank you so much, matthew for coming on. but before we even talk about all of that, i really want to ask you about your friend, david stewart, credited with big pioneer e. credited with inventing the term chem sex, which led to therapies that being concentrated on that which hadn't been before.
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and being a pioneer of mental health from a grassroots level, just tell me to a wide audience who he was. and i mean he was that he was a friend of mine, so it off stamps. meaning, the 1st thing that i would say if he was a great person is the person who is full of kindness and compassion for, for his fellow people. but in particular, the gay men, he had a really difficult childhood and, and when he came to london, i mean it's on the record. he worked as a sex worker. and then he got very heavily involved in drug use and also in selling drugs. and he was arrested and then he turned his life around to be dedicated his life to reducing the homes that are associated with can sex. and as you mentioned, i mean, he actually originates the term, can sex, that there was a time when there were, we were seeing a lot of these kind of quite terrible impacts as
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a result of people using i specific drugs to enhance the sex they were having but they didn't have a term and he says, the pretty sure he invented, but he isn't entirely certain because he was high talk. i mean it's a lot just sexual health clinic in london. what about this clinic in soho in the heart of london so that he is being involved in 56th street, a lot of sexual health clinic in europe. and was really exciting about 60th street is they have a high engineering approach in terms of working with the community to actually become something which the people want to be association. if you go in the way to room house chandeliers and the most extravagant or you can imagine. and so if it comes to friendly and inviting atmosphere, and that's one of the things that david was like very keen on. so he created like spoken word, evenings, community events. let's talk about gay sex and drugs. and people get out and they
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were to sing a song where they just talk about their experience or form piece of drama. but it gave the community, you know, to see, to share their experiences and you have to learn from each other. and i think that's what was written if i wasn't just to treat people and, you know, kind of give them vaccinations or anything like that. it was very much about listening to people and giving them the opportunity to share the experience and perhaps deal with some of the trauma that some of them were dealing with. i mean, how give lead to the indictment of sexual health policy internationally then that something like that should be so rare, right? i mean, tell me about aids map in the context of 40000000, around the world, having it and why it's so it's really so slow vaccines as compared with co, with some element of prejudice against l g, b, t q plus people. what, what are the, what's the context here? well, so i, what it's about when we bought information about h b,
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2 ordinances internationally. by that information for people living with h, i p including myself and also for health care providers and commissioners. and you also professional people around the world so that people can be fashion forms, information, empower people, it helps to make better choices for themselves, and that relates to treatment and it relates to prevention. h i be back seen has been really tough nut to crack. and there are reasons for that. i mean, typically challenging bars is much more challenging virus than code to find the vaccine for because people, if they are infected with kobe, most people will actually be able to shake it off naturally. whereas with h i b, what do you have as yet? there is no kill, you will not be able to shake it off what we have got of course. now if we have
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treatment, which is a effective of treating it, but we haven't got to the stage of being able to cure it. yes. nor to find the vaccine, an additional challenge to find the vaccine for a chevy. now, of course, is because we can treat so well. it's much harder to create that population of people, which you can try the vaccine and see the results. because if you know that people are vulnerable, then you, we can offer them credit or some other means to vent them, requiring h i, b. and when we treat h, i p, it ceases to be transmissible via sex. so actually, the better we treat ha, with few infections we get. this is why we often talk about the treatment cascade. because when people are diagnosed and if they can access treatment and if they go on treatment, not treatments affected,
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they won't pass the virus on doing sex. and so that's one really powerful way of combating h i v. but it does make some of this vaccine development a bit trickier because we're not seeing the same rates in populations which were observed as we used to. and of course it affects like other diseases, disproportionately people who are less wealthy. we've had lloyd russell oil on this show, the 1st m p i to actually say is h i v positive in, in the chamber here, but i was on the figures are showing that it's actually rising faster amongst a heterosexual community. now then in the l g b, cooper's community, a chevy? well, i mean, when all depends on which region you're talking about. i mean, what we have seen in the u. k is the drops and new diagnoses amongst gay and bisexual men have been much more rapid than the drops and new diagnoses amongst hedge sexual communities. and part of that again,
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is this treatment is prevention. actually, we get called in the u. k. we are actually pretty much leaving the world and tell us all treatment cascade because we are now at 95 percent of old people living with h i. they have been diagnosed and $0.99 on treatment. so really, really well with my, my cheese on treatment, 97 percent of those to the point where they cannot part of our assault and quoted you. because you were seeing these dramatic drugs where it is among communities where testing rights are as high and so gained by 6 men because we really can get that information out there and reach people fairly easily that we're getting really, really, really good testing, right. the problem is, is that someone's got undiagnosed h, i a and they're on aware of it. not only does that mean they can pass on during sex
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because they're not receiving treatment. but it also means that the health impact on them when they say, well, like most, eventually if they get el, are going to be that much more severe. and it may be much more difficult to turn this around and actually take our lives. we're very lucky in the u. k. we think the huge number of deaths that you k anymore because we're so good at to texting h i b and the treating h r a. but that's not the situation on the global level, because on the global level, it's 680000 people die. they try to relax, no miss. and the last year and 27 percent of people who are living with faith, still not accessing treatment. matthew watson, thank you. that's it for the show will be back on wednesday one year since the 2nd impeachment trial for then u. s. president trump began before being acquitted 4 days later until then keep in touch, why will not social media and let us know if you think it's taking too long for an
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h i. v vaccine to be developed ah, algorithm. so neural networks have been following us everywhere. we look online because our relationships are what matters most to us. that's how we find meeting and how we make sense of our place in the silicon valley. see, don't mentioned in that slick presentations. however, other ghost workers who train the software humans are involved in every step of the process when you're using anything online. but we're sold, as is miracle of automation behind your screen is a valuable workforce that feeds algorithms for next to nothing. on a very good day, i can do $5.00 now. a really bad day. i think the 10th and he's workers are invisible by design. it's about labor costs, but it's also about creating layers of lessening responsibility between those who
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solicit this kind of work and need it. and those who do it with the mediterranean is the world's most over fish, seen on sustainable exploitation of its fish dogs, which maureen biodiversity under great thread, submitted your selection again, a quote on sure your sinuses, he cut our system. i'm not going to pull the cookie careful for a tech and want to put our lives despite the eas promises to end over fishing by 2020. the situation is changing too slow. well, i'm very disappointed with this is basically not in public interest. they also do not in the midst of interest of the fishes, the only interest of the fishery will be the facial and the only ones in danger.
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the fisherman also at risk of losing all the parking lot, lot of them, but they get to them about that. i'm of the level thought, i guess it might be with, [000:00:00;00] with
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lose ah, one, the more they directly resell advertisers, content to us, and decide who sees what content like when and how much of it. facebook claims that these algorithms are there to learn about what our specific preferences. actually this is untrue. they are shaping preference. yes, live tomorrow. a person finds a fake, poor, legit, video. we're saying the earth is a flat. then this content ranks higher, little at least 20 percent or maybe even 40 percent. but really that is true. it is a very dangerous thing.
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with a russian official brands claims of the countries 70 percent ready to invade ukraine. as us propaganda saying, it's based on unnamed officials, undisclosed sources, and no evidence in the latest. and a series of accusations of alleged russian aggression being held on a daily basis. the canadian capital declares a state of emergency with the authorities, claiming the city is under siege as thousands of truck drivers peacefully protest against vaccine mandates. saying the government's trying to portray them as extremists. ah, rules are not for everyone. it seems some of the testing positive for cove it in australian athlete is allowed to compete in the winter olympics. instead of being put in isolation or to report from beijing and american cybersecurity firm, cloud fair is accused of facilitating piracy. the company still gets us state

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