interesting with i'm disappointed that we seem to have dialogue between a meet and a deaf person. the top diplomats of rashana, you appear to have found no common ground on regional security concerns. i made escalating tensions ukraine as they meant for urgent talks in moscow. why he would put aside the pandemic, why he would try to stigmatize canadians? why did you do this to a country that is already suffering and deeply damaged by so many of these policies . a canadian prime minister takes a barrel of criticism for his aggressive stones against anti vaccine mandate demonstrators. as a protest enters, it's 13 states. and the canadian example has inspired many around the world, particularly in france, where police struggle to stop multiple convoys from entering paris with authorities turning to new bands,

fines and arrests. the u. s. department of homeland security tells americans there is a heightened threat of terrorism in the country with domestic tensions. fueled by a conspiracy theories, spread online with international law from moscow, wherever you are. thanks for joining us this hour on. daniel hawkins, please to be with you for the rest of the russians. foreign minister says moscow's concerns expressed. the british counterpart lives truss fell on deaf ears. they met in moscow to discuss rising tensions over you crime. and you case threat to impose the toughest sanctions against moscow. ortiz donald quarter has the story. those julian, tim still, i am disappointed that we seem to have dialogues between a mutes and a deaf person. they seem to be listening, but don't hare. almost detailed explanations have fallen on rough ground. they say

that russia is waiting for the soil to freeze and become like a stone so that tanks can pass safely into ukrainian territory. it seems that our british colleagues have the same soul to day, from which numerous factors that we cited have bounced few people, if any would call thursday's meeting a productive one. at the top of the agenda, of course, were the proposals for security guarantees that moscow had put forward back in mid december. the main point of contention being that russia's asking nato not to move any farther eastward, specifically into the countries of georgia. and specifically here, ukraine, this is something that washington and nato have refused to do. and at the press conference laugh rob said that the west is negotiating exclusively on nato centric terms, and that they're unwilling to compromise. and simply that rush has been cheated for years when it comes to its national security and with relation to nato. now, this also comes as the western media continues to carry out its campaign of

hysteria around a legit plans for a russian invasion of ukraine. this is something that labrat again reiterated what moscow has said time and time again, that it has no plans to invade. anyone, it simply doesn't want you crane to become a member state of nato. now on that point, lever of also said that he has become actually a geopolitical pawn in a western dame to destabilize russia. let's take a listen to what he said to demolition up with them. okay, you're gam, apparently a western colleagues need president. so lensky only as a tool to pull russia out of balance that none seem interested in what he thinks negative consequences from oldest hysteria are impacting ukraine's economy in the national bud yesterday of steel. to see of the studio. now, as for trust, she said that her goal in moscow was to make as much progress as possible for a diplomatic solution. but right from the get go, she started accusing russia of being aggressive and of trying to undermine what she called ukrainian democracy. most shocking of all though is that she demanded that russia prove that it's not being aggressive. talk about guilty until proven

innocent minister latrell has said to me to day that russia have no plans to invade you crank. we need to see those words followed up by actions, is vitally important that the u. k. in its nato allies, are prepared for all event humanities. oliver have also commented on a specific narrative of the west's ante, russia hysteria, specific story that's been going around the media claiming that russia has some concrete plans to lay siege to ukrainian cities, set up a puppet government, and even set up camps for disloyal ukrainians. beasts speak with you at super sure, ricky, florida, there is speculation even in some respect to media about some suppose it operation that we're preparing to seize kids and all the other cities of ukraine. both will that some kind of who is being prepared to install a puppet regime. so in the ukrainian capitals. all this is from the narrative of so called highly likely earth as we should include the local. it's also important to

keep in mind that for some time now the u. k has been supplying ukraine with some heavy weapons just last month as shipment of n law, anti tank missiles systems. what landed in ukraine and as early as wednesday, we actually saw another shipment of anti tank missiles systems fall into the hands of the ukrainian military. now, while the u. k says that these are purely for defensive purposes. who knows what these weapons could be used for once they're in the hands of the ukrainian military, especially after a meeting like this one origins took diplomat, appeared to be in need of a, a geographer, amman, and 0 talks with lateral proposals, confusing to russian regions with another to in they bring you crime, you do recognize russia sovereignty over the rust of foreigners regions. thank you . the united kingdom will never recognise russian sovereignty over those regions. of those reasons have, of course, always been unquestionably part of russia, of fact, but seemingly confused. the case for i'm secretary, or despite trust,

apparently apologizing for the mistake, had been spoke, a wave of criticism on the internet with money saying it was i'm becoming of countries highest ranking diplomat to make such a blunder. some wondered how you can go into the official talks and not have been what enough informed about the regions she would be discussing. let's go live to form a u. k. i'm office minister norman baker. thanks for joining us, mr. back. a good sadie with us today. the story with the u. k for on secretary obviously made the rounds on social media saying the u. k. wouldn't recognize to russian regions as actually of being russian, the power confusing them with the 2 neighboring regions in ukraine. it couldn't be that perhaps she wasn't well, brief enough going to do these talks and moscow. well, she wasn't and she's not very good. i mean, that's the reality of it. she's relatively new in the post and not somebody pointed out to try to do so. but looking at the whole situation a deeply on elbow,

she wasn't probably afraid to st. we've got the situation on the ground where bother the you can us dolly of the rhetoric, but also we're going to join was on the russian troops on the board of what reason? we don't know. so i don't think it's like, and this was a credit to be another you case has been paving the way for what described as a harsh, if ever sanctions against moscow. considering that in the works. that's going to be right in parliament in the coming days. how peaceful can these diplomatic negotiations be? what can we have in terms of optimism from them? well, i don't know. i mean, clearly people talking about people not talking. i suppose the argument from the british would be to say, you don't come into play it, but there's no base currently takes place. no, you know, it's, i replied,

but i mean, it doesn't help that the rhetoric is in the way that doesn't help. there's others on the board of both sides and my duty to just back up a bit new reason why shouldn't be a preschool arrangement coming out to this. and that's what i to be seeking to achieve that we just saw amazing between the russian and french president. so just a few days ago in moscow, instead of a possible meeting though, between mr. johnson. mr. brewton. all we saw was those, the top diplomats really engaging in saber rattling on both sides. i think that's fair to say, is that assign? do you think of a further erosion in relations between moscow in london? well, they've been bad, but some time, you know, it's an episode. and so in the u. k, when there was always need to place a couple of russians so on since that point we had co relations. i think it's on the net, you know, we all live in the same. well, there's only one. well, we have to get on. and although we have differences on different matters that are

areas where we should be able to reach, come out, you know, be civil, for example on climate change. so i think we do need to try to engage with people. we don't always agree with and try by. there is a common consent rather than trying to find differences all the time. and the latest news, of course, need so also said may send troops to romania that in addition to the u. k, that should appointments in eastern europe, the us, putting its troops on standby as well just from moscow's point of view there. surely that's going to create really confusion, isn't it? it's not gonna tally with a dialogue, claim at once dialogue and diplomacy. well, look in the same way, russia isn't titled, in a way to have a $100000.00 trips devoted ukraine, the nato countries or types of troops on they're going to be not are those situations is helpful because, you know, we don't for history about the bus. well born another event in history,

the people can stumble into cold weather really mean too. so it might be the trip. so both sides of bobo borders the better. and just on the latest comments from the u. k. defense secretary thing but u. k will not hesitate to send combat troops to ukraine not makes quite a change, doesn't it from simply training or, or military equipment. yeah. do you think that designed to send some sort of message so moscow? well, i do, but i get some help to be honest with you. i mean, yeah, russia don't shoot, alters on, on, on the boat that, and, you know, the frankly, i small number pretty tripped neither here nor there. i don't. so don't worry. i mean a sentence because you've got a nature band difference between 72. so nature country where you, where you have been military lions. another come to be part of nature. so i think we're, we're finding that people are actually accelerating this matter way when both sides

to calm down a little bit. and that does seem to be a bit of a recurring theme, doesn't it? of russia of moscow saying the west isn't listening to its concerns to it, sort of a story and we had similar sentiments and beat off the, the meeting today with the case for on foreign minister for on secretary. do you think that most kids become increasingly frustrated that it feel this with being drilling into a corner perhaps with what's going on? i think object to view of the, of the ration development specially recent over the last 1020 years has been clearly that countries which were previous associated with them. so in union have one after the other become members of nature or the geography of the area. clearly created extremely close to, but in a sense, you know, just extra russia next to brothers. so i can understand why the sentence, as a rush is my bill front. and by that equally, it has to be said however,

that you end up a situation where to, to, to be adopting rather how style style is domestic reasons. so both sides of the movement appear to be interested in driving up the rhetoric that the world of the interest of math and both sides need to back down a bit. right for me when you get home office. mr. norman baker. thanks so much for your time. here with us on the program. ok, now there is an anxious wait till response from the international impact committee regarding media claims of the thing in the russian figure skating to its daily morning meeting on thursday that i see call those reports fuel speculation and said it won't call and want to probe was on going over what the team skating sensation community live a failed a drug test 2 months ago across development for us in beijing. his an ex chef ski the only official information or are the official comments we've heard so far, came from the spokesperson of the i o. c. mark adam said he explicitly said that

this was a legal case and even addressing a direct question about whether this was a doping case or doping allegation, he said that for now everything doping related remains purely aisd speculation. the a rule must have it at the i figures k to in question is camille of eiletha of r o c team. who was absolutely stella, only ice last weekend, winning gold with the russian figure skating team. but for the 1st time in olympic gangs history, the metal ceremony has now been postponed for almost 4 days now. and this is of course, causing a lot of speculation of we also heard from the spokesperson off the russian figure skating union, who told us that camille of oliva was not suspended from the participation at these olympic games in beijing. she will continue but dissipating here. moreover, by eva herself, a 15 year old skate i took to the ice this morning in

a training session, which is already a good sign. we've already been receiving wards of support for camila oliva in this very difficult situation. camila believe as program at the european championships made me want to short program to be a little longer. what a wonderful skater if her performance didn't inspire the whole world to take up figure skating? i don't know. what would the talk of the town and i spoke to both ex figure skaters, and journalists and experts available at the venue that this may be already delivering a very serious, told psychologically on the russian ice figure, skating team and the whole r o c olympic team. in general, for instance, i can only assume this is related, but during the male figure skating performance this morning, all 3 of r o c status failed during that performance says it's not something you see every day when all members of the team managed to, you know, mess up their performances so it might be the case off the team already going

through a very serious psychological situation. yeah. but of course we are anxiously waiting for any statement from the i o. c. this situation is expected to be results during this day, and of course i'll be keeping you updated with all the news in beijing as soon as i get it. so unclear for somewhat precise, the legal issues delay the muddle ceremony for the russian focus cases. american news broadcast the cnn might short a name and shamia athlete at the central the issue. despite to any official ruling, cnn has learned that a russian figure skater has failed a drug test. and that person is a minor russian olympic athlete. supposedly tested positive is, am i supposed to be surprised? she and broadcast, believe his name when photos of her while prospering her, with the accusations and other mainstream media outlets have followed suit headlines my show the link for youngsters name with doping despite so nothing having been officially confirmed,

extra attention was paid to believe was returned to try and get the olympic facilities legal on media analyst lanelle. so the way cnn handle the coverage is despicable if you watch this and i don't suggest anybody does, but if you want to see absolutely the most biased a unconfirmed speculation. first of all, sheet a minor. and the last i check one of the reasons for the alleged secrecy to protect a 15 year old. and we know everything we noticed traumatized the, we know the drug. we know her name all but, but by the way, she's a minor to imagine the pressure of anybody to be the olympics. imagine then be 15 years old. but imagine that you are right now in the, the, the cross hairs of this media microscope. and you theoretically, haven't been accused of anything. it's almost as though. and i merely speculating

because after all, cnn love speculation. so i'm going to speculate, it's almost like saying, listen, if you enjoy your time here speaking on behalf of say, the, this olympic event. it will really behoove you to say as much as you can to insinuate to imply to basically impugn and, and indict russia based on nothing. let's face it, they have found russia guilty by virtue of some body of evidence. we have not been made privy to. it's despicable ah mass ferocious by canadian rockers against the cobra vaccine man. it's have been going on for nearly 2 weeks, throwing serious questions about an impact on the national economy. the administration of africa, the auto industry disrupting production at carmakers, ford and so yada, the so called freedom convoys, dividing the country into 2 cows. ross growth live now to our t correspondent, john hardy. in order for us sir john banks was going across the story. just take us

through what's going on there. what's the atmosphere like on the ground that well, it's more like a dance party than, than a protest right now. i mean, to be honest with you, which is really been the case over the last few days. look auto a police say that the situation is volatile. the protesters here the truckers determined if one thing is true, it's that the supporters of this protest and those that are here are determined they're determined for their voices and their demands to be heard as far as volatility. ah, we know that police had made some arrests, but overall it's been a very like over the weekend there were balancing castles. here, there are families coming here. i described it as almost like a winter carnival type festival. that's really been what it's like a lot of music. there's going to be a wrapper grabbing here in a short time. so that's been the overall vibe. but the point of the protest is basically it started with truckers converging upon the city here. january 28th. and

iowa are fighting against mandatory vaccinations. for the trucking industry, it's really morphed into a much greater protest over canadas, coven 19 restrictions. and now a pretty fiery and intense debate about canada's freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of protest, roles and policies. that in mind, it's also an extraordinary situation for police while they've stepped up. enforcement measures issuing more tickets, making some harass mostly people that are drunk and disorderly for what they call mischief. ah, there's a very difficult situation. and how do you get all these trots? hundreds of big rigs with trailers? how do you move them out of the city? if they have no plans on leaving local tow truck companies have said you're not using us. we have to work with these guys. we don't want to be seen doing this. and some of even told me we stand in support of these trucker. so it's a very, very difficult situation for police. in fact, one, calgary police officer said it should be in there. there's

a fine line between policing and politics. oh, what is happening in order to clear political influence on the police to physically exert political will on peaceful protesters for nothing more than possible political gain is so very wrong on so many levels. i was just following orders is no longer an excuse. it is time to stand up and speak out by refusing to preach your fellow citizens fundamental charter rights. you signed up to help people stand with your fellow canadians and say enough is enough. huh. and what the majority of the protesters weigh talked and we've talked to many including trackers say have, have really maintain that this is a peaceful protest. in fact, we heard a little while ago. there are a groups of police coming in here. and we heard one of the organizer saying,

give them a wide berth fox, we don't want to do anything. they're just doing their jobs, respect, and let's not try to intimidate then there's more of us. then there are of then relate. that's the point. this has been a massive protest over the weekend, thousands of people here. it's a little bit scale down. we're seeing hundreds of people, but none the less supporters men, women, children, continue to come here from all over the country. and we've seen the protest spread all over the country. there's right now a blockade going on on a very important bridge. the ambassador bridge, which is a main commerce point between canada and the united states, stretching from windsor ontario into detroit, michigan. and it's disrupted the financial flow about $300000000.00 worth of goods goes across this bridge on a daily basis. so much so that toyota announced that it had to shut down the manufacture several production plants due to the ongoing blockade. but none the less that said protesters maintain this is a peaceful organization, it's a peaceful demonstration. still, canadian officials,

including the prime minister and other federal and local officials, have lambasted the ongoing movement, the ongoing protest in the pastor protesters including one ottawa city council member. here's what he's, she had to say kurney referred to it as sedition today. i think that's exactly what it is. this is theresa and really an insurrection. it's a, it's an attack on our democracy. it's an attack on our federal government. and we've heard that description quite a bit. we've heard the words trees in insurrection, illegal, occupation. but again, the protesters here, the supporters maintain that this is about their rights. you hear the word freedom out there a lot and they continue to contend. this is a peaceful organization of people and we have seen families coming here over the weekend. there were bouncy, castles, there are cook out, so obviously would be a bad form for the police to come in here like gang busters and try to take all of

that down. and also, they say that this is a movement that we're at least a protest that has garnered national attention, certainly protest across the country, even internationally. we've seen similar convoys in the united kingdom and france and australia, new zealand. we're also hearing about chatter and talk about something similar potentially happening in the united states. a convoy may be even stretching from california, going to washington dc, possibly disrupting the super bowl, or even president joe biden state of the union speech on march 1st. that remains to be seen, but one thing is very clear. this protest continues here on the ground in ottawa and other parts of canada. back to you cried audio john hardy, that with the latest from all to why the truck approach us. thanks paul dot update . john auto now the u. s. department of homeland security i as a noted american is that there is a hardened risk of domestic terrorism,

fueled by conspiracy theories on the misinformation spread online on expiring on rest on potential acts of on of the u. s. remains in a hide and threat environment, fueled by several factors, including an online environment filled with false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories amplified by foreign and domestic threat actors. these threat actors seek to exacerbate societal friction to so discord and undermine public trust in government institutions to encourage unrest. oh, the government says the main crowd is from so called lone wolf extreme. a saw small groups faxing on audiological beliefs or partial grievances with potential targets being critical infrastructure on crowded public areas such sentiments and actually stood up by misleading nanotubes about wives. but election fraud. and the covert pandemic was, seems it may also affect officials either scandal or up to the author republican congress when troy nell's claimed on the cover police stress. those construction

work is not going to his office and took pictures inside. an incident happen after the official a spoke out about security failures in the capital at last. he is january 6, right. he will so vote to turn a president joe barton's electoral victory and the hours off the full will present from supporters stormed the capital live now to the host of all he's on the contact john list and all the truth has is thanks for joining us. that chris could be with us today. now, i mean, these were bulls of undercover break ins on the and you bought and officials, i didn't be the official tying misinformation and the conspiracy theories to terrorism. what do you make of this, the, as a trend? should the public be worried? well, the united states, i mean, let's go to the biden administration, so it's been kind of a catastrophic failure on every front. we have 16 percent over the world's covert depths,

although we're less than 5 percent of the world's population was just announced today. inflation for the month of january's gone up to 7 and a half percent and bill back better bill, which is virtually been guarded. he can't get through his legislation, and so it's diverting attention one to the ukraine, but also to domestic terrorism. this is the playbook, the democrats are using to essentially cope with a deep frustration. we know that from the polls. i mean biden's approval, rating is plummeted. and so, as diverting attention, i think away from how ineffectual this administration has been to address the very pressing needs on the american public. when we just saw the figure, a staggering figure than $80000000.00 americans, that half of the workforce had some time during the previous year was unemployed.

so i think that they were, you know, the demon is ation of russia in the ukraine would just come out of the biden white house and corporate court years in the media is also in kind of paralleled with this idea of domestic terrorism. and in terms of breaking into the congressman's office and photographing documents, i think he's raised the real issue, which is that it was terrible security failure on the part of the capital police. remember, when black lives matter, marched in washington a few weeks before they had the national guard ringing with cyclop fencing, wringing the capital with fixed bayonets, and there was virtually no security at all. on january 6. do you think it's dangerous? that's rather dangerous precedent. the department of homeland security, opening associates miss informational,

their interpretation of misinformation with terrorism. yeah. it did. you know, they're, the divisions now within the united states are so star that the narratives embraced by half of the country. i just, they don't, they are so far from the narrative, embraced by the other half of the country that you can't communicate. that's what so dangerous and both sides are, are guilty. so yes, the democrats are demonizing and attacking trump supporters, not just trump supporters, but people who are dissatisfied with a democratic inability of the democratic administration to address the very pressing economic and social needs. so yeah, i mean,

this is just one more example of this widening polarization which is so dangerous. and do you think documents like these from the day it could be argued be used against government opponents simply you through to punish them or to designate them a threat? yeah, i think we're seeing that with the committee that's investigating the democratic run committee that's investigating january 6. i mean, most of the people committed misdemeanors, but they're being hauled off to jail. sometimes for a census, as long as 5 years, even though the only crime they actually committed was trespassing and you know, taking self is of themselves. so, oh, very much so. and there's a very concerted effort to use the legal system to go after donald trump and not excusing the trump administration who use many of the same mechanisms. but

there is a kind of almost fratricidal conflict underway in the united states and, and violence is so, you know, it's written into a dna american society. so it's all very worrying. and i think symptomatic of a country in d decay and struggling with you know, many, many issues that the ruling leads have been unable to address or resolve now, so we have time for, for this janice, i know that chris had you thanks for your time yesterday. with us and auntie well showing up but very shortly indeed it's the alex simon show. we're back in half an hour in arlington. ashton, with the latest news headlines, join us again that ah.