the the 2 days of aerial carpet bombing is eminence, followed by a ground operation would give us the national security adviser, speculates with a thoughtfully precise prediction on russia as long as you integration of ukraine. and we felt like kind of in a rush, this figure skating federation says it has no doubt cumulative believer is innocent of any wrong doing. despite our testing positive for substance, the organization says it's investigating the circumstances surrounding me into the bus rushes olympic committees raising concerns with the timing of the test results . the sample was taken back in december, but only revealed in the last few days. to clear political influence on the police to physically exert political will on peaceful protesters. i was just

following orders is no longer an excuse and the canadian police officer slammed the government over its crack down on the freedom conway. fortunately when, where is the authority step up? the reference to the end, the persistent rallies against the cobra vaccine, man that the law from oscar. thanks for joining us tonight on our team financial. i'm daniel hawkins. you all those evening. welcome to the program. and the us national security adviser has laid out a rather precise prediction for what he calls the imminent russian invasion of ukraine. jake sullivan went into disturbing detail of what he expects. it is likely to begin with aerial bombing and missile attacks that could obviously kill civilians without regard to their nationality. a subsequent ground invasion would

involve the onslaught of a massive force with virtually no notice communications to arrange. a departure could be severed and commercial transit halted a rapid assault on the city of key. that is a possible line of attack course of action that the russian forces could choose to take a course for donald cord to join me in the studio. don't tensions. it's fair to say really out on, on a given the rhetoric coming from the state department. what we stand at this point while it looks like washington is doing everything in its power to grip its own people and its allies in fear of a russian invasion without providing any evidence whatsoever, except for basically saying, trust us. anthony blinking is telling the worlds that russian invasion of ukraine is virtually imminent and inevitable. then he said it's supposed to, it's supposed to happen around the beijing winter olympics. let's take a listen. an invasion could begin at any time clear that includes during

the olympics, any american citizens who remain in ukraine should leave. now these extreme claims have created a cascade effect across countries aligned with the west. we've seen the european union, the u. k. japan and a number of other countries they're urging their citizens to get out of ukraine as quickly as possible. the united states also saying that it's withdrawing american citizens from the o. s. c. e mission in ukraine itself. now, this is all despite the fact that russia, instead of preparing for an invasion, has actually been engaged in diplomacy over the past week. we saw the french president emmanuel macro visit on monday, and we saw the u. k. foreign secretary visit just yesterday. and today, there was a meeting between the defense minister of russia and the defense secretary of the u . k. and as the russian foreign secretary, as the russian 4 months or so on thursday it's, it's as if rush, the people are,

it's as if they're trying to talk to with deaf people. cheryl and tim store. i'm disappointed that we seem to have dialogue between a meet and a definite person. they seem to be listening, but don't hair. almost detailed explanations have fallen on rough ground. they say that russia is waiting for the soil to freeze and become like a stone that tanks can pass safely into ukrainian territory. it seems that our british colleagues have the same sold today, from which numerous factors that we cited a bounce. now, after washington made it statements, we heard from the russian foreign ministry, they said it basically declared the sum of washington's actions so far surrounding isn't this anti russia hysteria to be a massive disinformation campaign? and earlier we did hear from washington that they said the biden is going to give an emergency phone call to put in to try and work things out. but one has to wonder, what's the purpose of bringing all this hysteria to this point? what it sort of seems like washington is trying to make it look and create

a problem so that it can look like it's save that at the end of the, at the end of the day. especially now that it's also saying that russia is preparing some sort of false flag attack to justify invading ukraine. we are firmly convinced that the russians should they decide to move forward with invasion or looking hard at the creation of a pretext, a false flag operation, something that they generate and try to blame on the ukrainians as a trigger for military action. and we are calling that out public. and it's important to note that this isn't the 1st time washington has accused russia of planning for a false flag operation. and it's also not the 1st time that such a false flag operation did not pan out last week. it was the same story and lab brought back then said that these that these claims are becoming more and more delusional as time goes on. well, it looks like he was right on the money because now of course we have on the one hand, washington is in hysteria, making these claims. and on the other hand,

we have russia trying to maintain, trying to maintain a diplomatic attitude. i mean, we can go back to what happened today with the meeting between the u. k. defense secretary and the russian defense minister showing who he made it clear that saturdays negotiations were bad basically that if both sides are going to die and de escalate the situation all the west has to do basically is to stop giving weapons to care about hostile power right on russia's doorstep, we'd like to propose a step towards reducing tensions and end the pumping up of ukraine with weapons from abroad. that's being done publicly and significantly. and it's not entirely clear why. i'd also like to understand why britain has deploy special forces to ukraine and for how long they will be there. now part of the white house, the statement again, we have to say was also that they said that us officials are trying to prevent a war, but perhaps the better path to preventing

a war would be to come back to the negotiation table with russia rather than continue to stoke hysteria around and a legit invasion that moscow has time and time again said it's not planning and date and i thought at the present to sit down and find their compromise and negotiate the dental quarter. that would be great. thanks. well let's so cross law now to full robinson, a professor of international affairs that the city of also was actually joining us professor goods have you with us today. now we have had a lot of speculation about a russian invasion. it's been going on for many weeks now. how serious realistically is this risk? and why do you think western powers continue to accuse russ preparing for this? a difficult question because we're not because party to whatever intelligence of the western powers are using to make the statements on what we're hearing today.

claims coming out from, you know, anonymous officials, back to russian invasion will happen next week of every ring. quite precise about it. but at the same time these, these statements just say they believe it will happen next. well, belief is not the same as, as knowledge and not certainly in jesus certain degree of skepticism, at least. and in my mind, because you know something like this, i would, if you've got the intelligence which indicates it to you or you don't. when you start saying you will, you believe it you have. it's not very obvious. you know what, why you believe it why they're doing it? i, well, i've of, i do have something, although the indications not makes it, but that is the case. or it's a matter of being caught in a certain mindset whereby you tend to analyze any information you've got within a certain sort of very narrow parameters and set of beliefs. and the more and more

you, you do that in a more and more you, you narrow your belief system becomes until you've come certain that it's, that it's true. even though you don't have some evidence for it. so that could be what's going on. but because i'm just speculating because i, as i said, i'm not potty to what information they have out of time when the countries talked to trying to find some sort of common ground. and compromise we saw would be you can russian foreign minister, defense ministers adjust today. president micron early or phone call. i'll plan between post and biden. to morrow. how is this media speculation? helping message ration but it isn't helpless situation at all. in my mind i, i think what the americans think doing is in some way deterring any possible attack by, as it were putting it out in the open. but we know what you're up to, right. and therefore,

you shouldn't do it in the hope that will somehow stop it. so i suspect not sort of the logic that in their minds. but of course, if it's not actually going to happen, then by putting these stories out, all they actually doing is antagonizing directions. and making things worse, and of course also harming you crying because people are now feeling ukraine or foreign is leaving no one in his right mind. it is going to be investing money and in the current circumstances within the ukrainian government itself, complaining about this and saying ok, you're hurting us by own, by always war source. i was just stepping away from speculation here. a lot of western officials seem to have a hard time seeing the russian point of view regarding native expansion. the russian borders that suddenly a line that the kremlin has push saying look, just see all point of view. and then repeatedly said, they feel that falling on on their fears. do you think it's fair to say that western diplomats, western officials have

a hard time seeing things in terms of security concerns from russia's point of view . i think that's certainly true. because i think this, i might say, a belief that in russians are cruelly put the bad guys. right. and also that just plain wrong, nato very much believes itself to be a defensive organization. whatever it is, an article is it is, is highly debatable. and the russians don't see it that way, but i would say about nato members have invested so much in your organization. and they believe it when they say we are defensive. so when the russians say, we don't think your defense, if they just think, but you're talking nonsense and because you're wrong, we don't have to listen to you, which is because of a city approach. because even if someone is wrong, you know, you have to consider what they believe because it affects what they do, but we just think we are right, they're wrong. and that's already over as to yes, i need for all sides to take

a step back and listen to each other notes on what the present to do that pull robinson a professor of international affairs. thanks for your take on that story here today on 99 percent now the international test agency has confirmed a band substance was found in the sample taken for russian figure skater camilla the leave of back in december. the agency says it was forced to address warning media speculation after the medal ceremony was delayed for the olympic figure skating team competition and which commit one gulf. however, the test result is only 7 to raise more questions. office select pseudo shasky reports from beijing. how far more questions now than the answers up to the statement? we do have at least some confirmation of what is going on behind the scenes here because it's never been the case in the history of the olympic games. when a metal ceremony has been delayed for more than 5 days already, it happened a last weekend and the muddy or athletes who won their metals, haven't still received it. now the official side of the story was that

a certain legal issue was being considered and prevented the outage from getting their metals. now, the idea that meant that in the morning shed some light on what exactly was going on. now 1st and foremost, the doping sample which was of tested positive was obtained from camila. val eva on december 25th in st. petersburg, russia during the russian ice figure skating championship, which of course of leave a one comfortably and that a by that ensured her participation in the olympic games. the most bizarre part of the story is that the positive results came back on february 8th. and i have to explain here that since rossa is rendered as noncom blind by the world anti doping agency, rasa had to send the sample to an accredited laboratory. that laboratory happens to be a laboratory in stockholm, sweden. so the biggest question here is as to why it took more than a month and a half to produce

a result from that probe which was taken on december 25th. something which even the head of the rational and become just in his life was nichol stressed in his address address a just early on saying that usually according to the what a protocol a result from a doping probe should be conducted within 20 days. do the math, that means it should have been conducted by january 15th, the latest. this broke happened before bay gene, an even before the european skating championship, where ladiva also participated, all other doping tests, both in europe and here in beijing. all of them were negative. that was something confirmed by both the olympic committee and by the russian skating union. by the way, russian skating union produced this statement from us, which we can now listen to the russian figure. skating federation doesn't doubt the honesty and integrity of its athlete. we will make every effort to clarify the circumstances of what happened and will provide the athlete with the necessary

comprehensive assistance and support. another hugely important point to understand here is that when the positive result came back again on february, 8th, rou sada, was following the international protocol and immediately suspended, believe from further participation in olympic games. but the athlete filed an appeal and asked for an expedited process. and on february 9th rou, sada, allowed volleyball to continue her participation in the olympic games. there has to be a reason for that, that definitely it just cannot come out of nowhere. we are waiting for some sort of explanation from the side. of course we understand they have their hands full now because we understand that. now both the international skating union and the international olympic committee have filed an appeal against ro, side as decision to allow volley. we're to participate in the games, and this is something that needs to be resolved by february 15th, the latest. that is what an female i skate is, will take to the rank in beijing to compete for the metals here. you'll understand

that isn't it. it's not because she's a protected, personal minor on those that's very important. and i hope that people will respect that. and that's why we've not been able to communicate a, virtually a tune up until now. and that's why also because of the speculation, the media about the name and the whole story, the actually the chase will fit to put out a clarification statement. we talk in here, not just about any, any skates. are we talking about one of the most talented skaters on the planet who wowed the crowds? both sports related and ordinary. you know, common lovers of sport. we talked about last weekend. it was a historical performance woman ever in the history of olympic gains to do a double quad on the ice. and don't forget, she is 15 years of age and i have to tell you it's both heartbreaking to think what is running through her had i in any case, there could be, it could not be as bad as we all think it is while eva is a minor, she is just 15 years of age. so under water protocol, she's considered as

a protected person. so if any punishment comes away, if she's found complicit or deliberately taking this medication and not informing the authorities of any medical reason for that than a punishment in her case, may be lightened. deprivation of metals from the russian olympic team is not even considered at the moment. this is an individual case which could even be result after the beijing olympics is over. america is on his open chief. he is already floating idea of suing russian athletes saying he is what either use an anti doping law that allows you esl authorities to prosecute for athletes or officials outside the country. at the same time, the rush at olympic committee shave his questioning the timing of the test results . coming out. i have serious questions about the timing that passed between december 25th when the sample was given in st. petersburg and february 8th, when it was made public. in accordance with international standards of the world anti doping agency laboratory. the deadline for loading sample a is 20 days from the date of receipt of the sample in the laboratory. it looks

very strange that the test took almost a month to get from st. petersburg to stockholm. this raises very serious questions for me. here. it's not really about the doping case as such because these will be done later on and we do not even know if there is a positive test. i think there is not yet because the information was given on the very late i'm a say and that means it has deal to write to request to be so. so even though he's confused causative test is not yet even decided. that means the corporation for support can only assess what will be perhaps the likelihood in their mind. what will happen with this case, which day will not be able to decide themselves the only thing they can decide ease

suspension for the next event, which will be the 15 december rent or not. and i think given, given the hard tension and big effects that we have such as suspension, they should be very careful in determining this what detected substance, try met as it is usually to treat heart disease and angina, but it may also help athletes recover from strenuous training a few believe earlier but knowingly took the drug and people on social media have been expressing a widespread support for maybe allegations. while russians currently living in beijing have shared that confusion. for me, oh my yeah. my athletes are often subjected to very strict drug test. it would have been particularly stupid to have not been clean when coming here. i'm certain they are clean. camilla has been a favorite at these games. everyone's been talking about her. she's been under enormous pressure from the entire world,

especially the media. but we believe in her and wish that she goes on to victory. said this, this whole situation, not just whether they'll take away the metal is so disappointing. it would be for anyone who loves their country, especially as it concerns such as the situation is so confusing, no one really knows what's going on and why, or whether someone has something to gain from this drug. it's very sad. we're in beijing and we're cheering for the russian, hoping very much that everything will go smoothly. our figures, gators are the absolute best. canada central ontario province is threatening to impose fines of up to a $100000.00 for purchases, blocking traffic that civic mass demonstrations against coven vaccine mandate. the regional government is declared if they do emergency said such demonstrations are getting out of control. freedom. callaway protest movement has been holding rally for 2 weeks already, including blockading the national parliament. the auto authorities though,

are cracking down, including freezing income from a crowd source crowd funding source that's already raised more than a $1000000.00 for the photos organizes and dozens of arrests have been made and more than a 1000 fines issued with police often resorting to for the same projects as one canadian officer accused the government of ignoring the fundamental rights of citizens. thing you can't follow those orders anymore. what is happening in ottawa, with the clear political influence on the police to physically exert political will on peaceful protesters is so very wrong on so many levels. i was just following orders is no longer an excuse. it is time to stand up and speak out by refusing to preach your fellow citizens fundamental charter rights. you signed up to help people stand with your fellow canadians and say enough is enough for it. a party of canada has spent the last 2 weeks endorsing and enabling the blockades

across the country. the consequences of these actions are having dire in house. they are impacting trade, they're hurting jobs, they're threatening our economy, and they're obstructing our community. i am focusing on indeed, but as accusations of insurrection and even trees and fly in that direction, the truck as a key to highlight the grass roots support. they say that protest is getting from many people and also the head of the canadian democratic defense association. reports on corruption, including by the government, says, canadians should stand up for their freedoms. actually been fighting against this for about 2 years. we've got over 400 organizations that have popped up across canada and everything to do with providing n o l. i notice of liabilities in order for people to keep their jobs against these ridiculous government dictates, and i'm going to call them dictates because that's the are by the police. coming on . our side is happening in droves and we, we don't just have the occupation happening in order we've,

we've also got in the economic center here in toronto and every other legislature building across the entire country. and we encourage, we encourage more kids to come out and, and stand in supported this. i mean, this is your freedom in your life and our fundamental life, liberty, security property are being infringed upon. and it's unacceptable. newly declassified cia documents reveal the agencies been collecting americans private dogs, and a previously undisclosed surveillance program that has been capturing such information for years. the evidence came to the for off the 2 senators, off the agencies director to declassify a study into its intelligence gathering. eventually revealing that in order to pass by president ronald reagan in 1981 expanded, the power of such agencies allow miss celia a to embark on its own bulk program. so that her see it as an attack on americans privacy. all these documents demonstrated the many of the same concerns that americans have about their privacy and civil liberties. also applied to how the c i

a collects and handles information on the executive order and outside the fees law . these documents reveal serious problems associated with warrantless back door searches of americans. the same issue that has generated by pilots is in concern in the face of context and response. they, cia as it respects americans privacy planning, commitment to transparency. adding analysts are not required to memorize to memorialize, rather than justification for their queries. the american civil liberties union has slam agency for an invasion of privacy while criticism is also building online. you are about to witness an enormous political debate in which the spy agencies and their apologists on tv. tell you this is normal and ok and the cia doesn't know how many americans are in the database or even how they got there anyway. but it is not ok the c i a is a criminal organization. their interference in us politics is particularly pernicious. these reports raise serious questions about what information of ours

the c i is vacuuming up in bulk, and how the agency exploit that information to spy on americans. this invasion of our privacy must stop us growth love now to john kerry. ok for marcia analyst on whistleblower. john, thanks for coming on the program today. my guess the question that a lot of people will have is what's the legal basis for this eavesdropping, how legal is it? there's no legal basis. none whatsoever. not only has c, i collection been illegal when conducted against american citizens. since the creation of the cia in 1947, that was reiterated by the church and white committees in 1975. there are no circumstances where the cia may collect bulk data on american citizens or u. s. persons. there's literally no justification, no explanation within the confines of the law. that's acceptable for something like

this. is there a suggestion besides just the, how much information actually has been collected and exactly what they were looking for? where that information has gone, where the data's spins thought? no, and that's the real question here. the letter that was finally received by, by senators whiten and heinrich, and that was released to the public to day was heavily redacted. so we don't even know what kind of information is being discussed here. we don't know how many americans are affected. we don't know where the information is being kept. we don't know who else has access to it. we don't know what the information is for. for example, does the f b, i have access to this database? can it look at illegally collected information on american citizens for the purpose of law enforcement or building a case without a warrant? all of these questions are going to have to be answered. can you say anything

changing for the disclosure of these document, sol, willis say continue with this activity with this particular program my own guess and forgive me if i'm a little cynical but no, i don't think this is going to change. we didn't even know about this until the senators accidentally stumbled on it and asked for clarification from the cia and then asked to cia to declassify the letter that they received. so this, this is something that so important and such a major violation of the law that it has to be reported to the oversight committees . and we know from these 2 senators today that it was never reported to the oversight committees. it was found out about solely by accident. the ca, correct me if i'm wrong, is generally not invested in investigating americans domestically. and why would it feel it needs to collect data on its own citizens? its primary function is of course to, to focus on external issues. you're exactly right,

and i'll answer that question by telling you a very short story. my 1st boss at the cia began at the cia as an intern just out of college. he was 22 years old and he was assigned at 1st to the office of counter intelligence. he was told on his 1st day. do you see these files on the wall? don't ever look at those files. they're off limits to you. of course, the 1st time that he was alone in the office, he went and looked on those for at those files. and every one of them was a file on an american, the c i a has been doing this for decades and it's not going to stop. what does this news tell us about basil? yeah. and about the state of, i guess, security agencies in america are on their interactions with the law and the constitution. right? that's really the most important question here. and the answer is that it shows how we desperately need robust congressional oversight in this country. for so many years,

the congressional oversight committees have been little more than cheerleaders for the cia and the rest of the intelligence community. we don't need cheerleaders, we need adults in the room. we need people who are going to say to the cia, you can't do that, it's illegal and mean it and make sure that there are consequences to be paid when the see i breaks the law. we don't really have that aside from these 2 senators today. nobody else has even made a comment or statement rada. so we have time for very interesting talking to you though, john kerry ok, her full my ca analyst than whistleblower. now, thanks for your time and throughout the program. my pleasure. was they seen with us, sir? here not international export. crosstalk in just a few moments. we're back in 30 minutes with the latest join us again, but ah ah

ah ah. hello in welcome, the cross talk, we're all things are considered. i'm peter labelle. apparently, russia's invasion of ukraine is not so eminent. after all, none the less, washington in london continued to beat the drums of war. many europeans think otherwise, they are the ones with the most to lose in any conflict. they are also the ones pushing diplomacy. ah, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest, earl rasmussen in washing he's the executive vice president of the racial center in new york. we have medea benjamin. she is an authoring co founder of coat pink.