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that he no sooner said than done the russian and italian foreign ministers. and now addressing the media following talks in moscow, left listening from minutes to dragging out and during their telephone conversation . earlier, there is an understanding that both our leaders are interested in continuing such contacts. and we are discussing of further opportunities for such context in the future. but what we noted is that our countries are, have good bilateral relations suitors last year. outrage rose by over 50 percent over $30000000000.00. my dues. we have good partnership between our business circles. in january this year, president wooten matt via a video conference, matt. so italian and tip entrepreneurs going down below a meeting that was initiated by the russian italian chamber of commerce. for this one was

a movie future school of humus. we also have the inter governmental committee on and look, i just economic matters that is currently are working online and we hope that we'll be able to restart a physical meetings as well. but sir, we would also like to restart intergovernmental consultations, doug over know that we have used before in 2013. ah, the latest a meeting, all of that committee took place in serious visibility, resort of which these meetings take forms over people. who are you, a consultation or other meeting between 2 leaders, sir, with delegation, sir. this was a very positive beneficial format. we, despite the covey 19th pandemic,

we were able to restart the 2 plus to 4 months or so with our ministers of defense . i think that it's time to think about the next meeting to take place in italy as for cultural corporation. so russia and italy have a rich history. them has them. italy has always been a country or interest for russian. a cross here of museum started last year. we have a program of cultural exchange is set to conclude this year. and that is why we are now preparing for the next cultural and tremendous aaron program for the year. 20232025. the 200 year reverse re of dr. yes, keith was celebrated in italy, there was a monument, unveiled in italy to the great russian writer with value that

a lot. we thank you to leave for valuing our culture, our cultural heritage, medical deal. as for international matters, we focused on lung the situation in the euro, atlantic community problem. and i see if you get it in the context of the issues raised by russia us. this message is sent to the western nations to the u. s. to nato, where we made proposal to start negotiations about specific legally binding documents that would regulate international security. which i'm talking of course about the drive documents, russia, us, and russia nater, dr. documents. we have been waiting for the response for over 6 weeks. and then we find the receive the response we are analyzing the response by the us and in the near future,

you will see how the situation will on the fold in the future. and to day we will send our letter to the american side and the smoke lesson. and like i said before, we're going to publish this letter. i believe it's critically impulse and we, she's for the rest. all interested parties for all interested the people, members of the civil society to know what each of the sides each of the parties stands for. because if you keep it secrets like our colleagues from washington and brussels like to do story, will then was you, public opinion will be filled by lies by i tried propaganda that currently, police washes over the international, the formation space. that is what we see in europe right now. what you,

what you hear and treats about the developments on the russian ukrainian bolden, you know, very well how trustworthy and credible these allegations are. doesn't issue. just like i already spoke to sally and use me and the minister the maya about the future of our relations. i talked about russian, italian by little cooperation in the context of our relations with europe, with the ease you talked about the the activities of the oversea, where italy has traditionally stood for constructive dialogue with acumen and sandwiches. and so, but not condoning other member states of the o. c u to hi bob. confrontational rhetoric is continuing to fill up lines and overall in the, in europe and the, in the euro, atlantic region,

we see that it's really holds the course of continuity. beloved, back from 2000 to 2002 when a declaration was signed. but that's what it is. you created the russian nature council and established the main aspect of our partnership as we used to call it back then. this could well become a strategic partnership. national. we are thankful to our colleague. was it a good for i, minister luigi the maya for us is that she's willingness to come to russia like that. this is especially important in the situation like the one we see today, your chip, when you mud so that everyone can clearly understand what's happening and so there can be no surprises. thank you. get up here to the family, to the all clear,

most go going to me as glad that i have this opportunity. a mazda you talk to you a lot. i want to thank you for letting me know i was going for it today and i can cushion if you go, that's true. we consider the russia country that we have very deeply from the highest zone on the economy in any other and many other areas. and there's times between our clown, the tree is gates in minneapolis, but in that case allow us to believe that we can only speak frankly, including about the matters where we have divergent views on today's meeting. that was in my understanding of what i'm doing rather deep, straight in deep. we talked about the situations in ukraine phase and we model the headboard to the main router and we will continue to work in this context. and i would like to counter score and i will continue many on risk already when i talk to

old mind lockers in the future that russia, that could be the want or if it, as me for love, sat is ready to talk is ready to me for to do with the ways to resolve this crisis, i heard this same and keep from my report a metric lab. and we can see that there is a willingness not to continue to lose were the diplomatic solutions because a diplomatic solution should prevail. because otherwise, it would have detracted consequences for the european continent unpredictable ca, sickly, and says that's why we have things that we should follow these very path path of looking for peace and ability. and the troops were still should give way to dialogue so that we could achieve this goal. we should,

as you all are aware in recent weeks speedy to frank. we have houses for tom cuz 1st of all, a phone conversation between the head of the government over to lee mr. dragon president, my today is made it with my counterpart, mr. labrono. these are old signs of the fact that we have a more positive assessment than all of our prospects. and i would like to mention him in particular that we really see hope in the fact that the new encounter wanted me to read by repeated was organized rash. on tuesday, during my meeting with mr. collab while yet you need to do that you on it. but i heard the ukrainian point of view about the country is seriously concerned. yeah. like the entire european continent including he to lead, lead support sovereignty and 3 pearl integrity of ukraine, major side. you. i make a nice me the data lind separately these and moving. i mean,

we believe we join lee, but he didn't have rotors coming up with that. it turns mechanism. so days, collation mechanism. so we are going to work here and trying to find the implementation of the main screen, ramon's in practice both for security matters and for political matters. and for michael norma, we want and we will support the normandy roses. we hope you need it room, that in the near future it to the, to the leaders. so the norm in the form and states, well, not the most together, that exposed to me and grateful for the efforts that russia is taking. and so why did mister la brook mention a response or the, the me scoop to the proposal. so the west will be given and i would like the on risk or is that all the is in control, your needs as hope, but it adds up,

but it's relations with when russia and the european union will improve in today's meeting. so that's the great the opportunity to exchange views once again with our counterparts. it's true, there's yet another break to the foundation of beautiful relations between our countries. and as mr. labrono mentioned, we are positive that it will help us to relieve the tension, reduce the tension because he probably has always been a country that is going to get, i mean, for di, like your colleagues. now the questions were ready to take your questions. so just by eating right agents that mosca cetera, by any land in moscow. the 1st question for the minister, the myers, and see only what willy tale do you offer looks that will be in use sanctions imposed on russia and a question for me for love. her labrono on february 20th the military drill said

the border with bell, or it should be concluded. does it mean that it's silver? yes. are there any signals? that's how it will be. you know, the short question get out of the federal. amanda. thank you. thank you. for your question on the lead, i would like to say and soon you know the to the fans and we to lee in regard to sanction that. so you that, but then it is clear through every one has been for some time now and it is based on the lead level and the member ell licenses are my and so we, we use and if you join decision and we make decisions within and they is unity, we need to look for optimal ways. that means that we're trying to find diplomatic solution that would help us to avoid frontier and switch to consider the rule of consensus within the u, within other european formats. i mean,

we know that the consensus rule is used when sanctions on car posed is always on an estate. and the question about what italy would do should sanctioned imposed, is incorrect. it's in itself, sanctions cannot be introduced if any country is against such sanctions. i do not believe that italy is interested in hyping up this hysteria just for those and from patient hysteria. and like i see that we have what we are doing right now is continuing the tradition of good people almost see between russia and italy, we don't want one side alleged something against the other side, threatened with sanctioned the cetera. one to find ways towards mutual acceptable solution. the sort of and the principle of indivisibility of security is something

that we are currently negotiating with other nations in we're talking about long term stable, legally binding proteins guarantees of security guarantees. these are principles that ever european nation has signed before, and there is a component there that says that's what i'm getting is that's not a single country or a group of countries or an organization can try to not achieve the dominating role within the c. and this is exactly what nato is doing. sure, let me provide you a good example of somebody started back in 2009. in fact, when russia proposal to make this principal visibility security as a legally binding principle, she another, then we try to, ah, talk this over within the nato russia council proposed to vote on it. and then nato said that this is out of the question, what would this because would cover

a legally binding guarantees could only be given to nato members, not to any one, just any one in europe. this is an arrogant position, and this is about position that's almost about is said to provoke other countries. and it is that it has a position that drives and presses other neutral countries to try. and the south is that you become confident, members of nato. and with them, but, you know, there was a justice and fact article san, which present wouldn't discuss recently with present micron. the article says that any country where we can discuss this hasn't the right, because it doesn't. it doesn't say that any member and in the asian nation can as the right to become a board member states of nato. what it's actually says is that any nato member state may ask that if they do any other nation to join nato,

should this country, as opposed to philip language somali, meet all the criteria on to nature and shoot this new comer country up to the security of nature of yuki when i think it's clear what this is talking about. if we use this article 10 objectively as it is written on the aspect of it is quite clear to me what the answer with the good is but so our position is clear. we talked about that today as for your question, much new with respect to figure when de escalation with dots, when these collation would end. this is not our words. these are the words introduced by the propaganda machines, the which in this discolored c, 3 of these words about ease escalation and de escalation is something that's not sure what sort of every european politicians simply has to say right now.

they can't help it. when she said it was for our military exercise to see if they will end on february 20th, whether the political escalation would. and i do not know, we are not escalating anything that you should ask. people have done what's up with us. in fact, there are certain observers saying that she's citing that i don't know which sources a saying that for you or in fact the invasion woodstock on february 20th. and lisa straw or administer of the u. k said that this that this escalation could continue for months. i don't know. maybe we will see the same happening in summer. i don't know the grading in chicago and from some against the speaking coming up most of your interest because i've got several questions for me. one minister at the italy in my earlier foreign minister, thrush s sam,

ladders to they always see countries too with the question, how do they interpret bus days, principal up in the visibility up to curate in europe. but as a response, instead of individual responses, there was one common response from the european union on behalf of the european union. so he's actually planning to send an individual response to the letter that they received. and how does he totally interpret this principle up in the visibility of security in europe? thank galaxy bring cheaper than indivisibility. thank here, the principle of indivisibility, security is the principle that you probably in the joint request to ensure that we have always support. why? because we think that that's a fundamental principle for its security in europe and get with the lamb be to see you and to share the law. sure. because a part of that's the idea that we had here are to,

that's how we see the principle of russia native console. that's how it should work because it is essential for all the states that we are talking about. and my very these are to rush to use it to, to we're looking for proof, it was told that these indivisibility security. and that's something that we are trying to find a diplomatic response to them. issues that have arrived. and we'll look at our historical ties. so a type of friendship and cooperation between our countries to find this answers agency or put them under pretty minutes through the my you minutes through my 1st question for the minister the my oh nice for the yes. the ministry you leave it at key upon tuesday. where you're mad ministry and 3 call epa. now you're meeting me here. love up. my question is, are you still see me coming watching? are you going to talk about with your counterparts with your trial august, or is it in did if you need to upcoming days? my question. second question,

tony's for labrono you gave police told the security guarantees that you described as imprinted. but it seems that well doesn't want to make any confession, but you want to achieve concrete results, possible results. what results are these? what outcomes for these? thank you boy. you the cool. no jerry, buddy to to ball. i would like to score a how are you going to get to like i did before? and then when i imagine one month needed, probably infinity, but probably to be the one to 5 minutes turn to mr. druggie and the one in austria . sad. so we do everything we can to continue dialect, that's our goal. we will continue talking with our allies, nato allies within the framework called the principles for him. call it c, c o, p to lee is based upon the need for sale on the sidelines to all the upcoming summit

in respect to useful with africa. we believe that we will also discount these matters there. where we will try to find ways to resolve on crisis and people with the men. so i think that's the only about old or 27 in union members stay it should fall though in the near future in min, unique. and there will be the 7 meeting of foreign ministers of g 7 countries. there will be another assignment where we are going to discuss that. it will be another opportunity to discuss this matters. and today, we're going to do a lot for the train that we have discussed. i can say that they'll rush in ukraine ready to talk if they are ready to continue talking. that will be massive. that i'm going to discuss matters. so european security because that in

the center piece of the i mean all our meetings will allow most of all and i want to assure you we are going to adhere to this position, our joint position, trying to find peaceful solution for all the pressing matters. i do not believe is quite correct, but to say that was russia presented a list of security guarantees that had called for parity. if it wasn't russia, let form the least of guarantees, it is actually stipulated in the os see documents in the us in the nato, russia council, our documents, silver show tissue. so you know, sure it was actually, we have good looks done with back in 1994 when the code of behavior in politics was signed by gloucester. i'm rochester. back then. it said that suited but not a single member state would do something you would do something that would threaten

the security of any other state than he was in think he acted and was the moves concerned that oversee the declaration then? was the symbol our summits then was the astronaut summit. mister shows it tells us no rush when you search you and bless. you flew their email, but we but the formula we use right now says that any country can choose to become part of any alliance. but at the same time, as opposed to the wooster on the account, she cannot do anything that would threaten his opera. the security of other states if could not strengthen its own security at the expense of the security of many other states. so those are the special is also it stipulated zororor and his throne of which you are the respect for countries that choose to be neutral, very young because now we see neutral coming got completely neutral countries being treatment to join nato. and with also that it says that not a single country, a group of organization, a group of countries,

all organization i can try to dominate the britain though it says europe in space, fearfully man's should that useless. no one can establish spheres of influence. all of that was agreed upon by leaders of countries signed by them. melissa cross published everywhere for milan. it was a matter of pride. now when we recall all that we've alleged on the bulk girl, we remember it showed he showed a sheet on your, with european leader saying that sir, in the balkans i, everything should be done was usa tosto independently. but without a show, russia was able to, for you of them, the u says that russia has been intervening, and that somehow in africa. so basically she optical toyota. so for the e. u, though it is all right, to have stairs of influence in finance. it is all right to have spheres of influence, but not for russia, even when it comes to its own neighbors. both of them brought to frontier for, for

a future figure, because we know that there are certainly a bulk of a pressure put on countries out to act against russia, against russia's interests. also in the balkans country were there was this person escobar, what was his name was mitchell escobar took too much. we'll deal with susie. lydia, who should be the made a statement for that to serbia, should stop buying the gas natural gas from russia to start searching for alternatives ah, to russian gas what your isn't that an attempt to make so be a part of your sphere of influence or in attempt to destroy good and good neighbor, little relations between russia and serbia. if you really like the summary of the when the u. s. says the germans or to other europeans, are there to say, while you just don't know what you need to be seen, to establish your security to have to ensure

a good security. you don't know what you need to order from some movies. that's okay. when you're more, you, at the motion luxury, i'm good at that and we are told where you knew so to you were she does or personally why that is russia trying to promote its own security initiatives? nothing is threatening you. somebody says, well, let's russia speech decide for itself at this house to insure its own security. oh, sure. because the example that i provided is very telling will not go bryce, because out of the entire variety of category, but language, low multiplicity of all the components that have been reiterated during various documents that i, i talked about the west chooses only one aspect, the aspect that any country can change, you can join any union and it ignores it dismisses all other aspects of those documents. and that is why it's undermining security. that's why it's undermining

the minsk agreements. the minsk agreement states that how many security guarantees should be implemented. little troops and source i weaponry should be withdrawn. that due to the don bass should receive special status that should were special reforms annually than your that's take place. there's a temporary election that's trampling and so after coordination under the aegis of the owner of the e. o is see the circle boot is a deal of the un here on the project. logical tory elections should be held. so there was in the stand a tree senior that is looking after people on the rows against the unconstitutional, on a proud in the seller who the took place and key if you will claim that they had armies sent and them probable greg shooter and the ones that we see that their rights are finally respected. swartz vocalize skirmish waters on the feel. not sure that the not figured on you see with once sir, that happened. some was ups,

then the ukranian army would have control over the entire ukrainian border. this is the final step, but our western counterparts are saying yes, well with due respect to minsk agreement, but let's change the order in which these aspects go with your patasha uncle. the only order in which they come from to get a new solution was they say, 1st let us have control of the vol them. and then we will decide whether we want elections, whether we want a special status, whether we want amnesty as a form or whether we're going to just an increase in everyone. actually the restock about lustration about was if you go to starting criminal cases against people this in us, don bass, the 1st the city was gonna buy senior. this is why we have the this concerns, these concerns about what's happening in the key. if you, we will value which of the willingness of those who want to help us get spots. so we had

a lot of studies young. i have g m a conversation with her own minister sholtes. and he said that president the landscape promised him that well, prior to the he would say, to add to the contact group, the draft projects of documents of that have to do with the constitution with the elections, et cetera. he promised to do this in the upcoming days. you will then just state just moments later. he's to the promises who are basically dismissed by some officials in keel. then there was a telephone conversation between my son is a sholtes and president biden gilmer, and then a nicholas that utilizes the cabinets. the voice in munich, germany says that are still version of rochelle was not actually withdrawing troops for your workers. and that there should be a constructive dialogue on european security on that the main sc agreements should be supported by germany and france and then progress should be achieved under the

normandy format for us. then it concludes with the phrase that the key to all that