hey, hey folks, welcome to dennis miller plus one. happy to welcome, feel raw, see to the show, and theos and actor vest non groceries, roles on sons of anarchy, which is here show luke cage, i'm not his hip to that one. he also appeared in the hit, zack snyder, netflix film army of the dead. and he's now appearing on the limited series. and boy, everybody's talking about a nice to see k hard come out with some serious jobs and wesley snipes and true stories. currently streaming on netflix, and that is the post downloaded show. i think this is theoretical. how are you, brother? i'm super. well, i know what a wonderful introduction there that you know little about comedians. we missed playing drama, wesley snipes, your old friend for murder at 1600. the other way around and he was, i scared the living out of me. i remember sitting on a car one day and d. c, with him was around $95.00 degrees, married berries, the mayor,

he comes to visit wesley. i'm in the middle sitting on the hub, while wesley a marion barry rap. and they barely acknowledged me. brother, i have never felt more easy because i think it was important to me because i didn't want to do my own stuff or that he thought i was a complete would. so he just killed me. but you know, it's interesting. the well are you are terrific in that. recall that you were to refer you know, what's interesting though, i do remember when we are doing that. i had a film called bordello of blood that came out. it did no money. but wesley had a film came out that same week when we were in toronto, shoot and, and it was called the fan and i think as you break down real story story for me it's, it's sort of the same bye, right? yes. same the same idea, different i'm going to go to another film as his which is been always, you know, if anybody ever needs to find me, my alias is rupert pumpkin,

which would be king accommodate, you know, that he did with cherry. and, you know, to narrow kind of, obviously to fan is as is way later. but if you look at a rupert, at which he was such a giant fan of this johnny carson, whatever a lot of jean behind the scenes gene and true story comes from that performance of de niro with rupert. and i definitely the fan is a great, a great one for that too. i didn't really think about that so amazing on further you. well, it's urgent. plus you wesley, share the certain state, university of new york system. you at albany, if perchance so i hope you guys exchange signet ring somewhere along the way back here in the region. it was a sunni, it was a studio fiesta and we were that we didn't want to. we were down down talking all the kuni people that came around. yeah. with upstate new york, it's burg people there. go upstate new york roads. your city is a school system and not the the dr. battling, the shia a whole different. see not that a good school system. we're talking to theo ross,

and he was explaining his character gene, give us the overview. and also i want to ask about k hearts chops and tell me the overview of the thing is kevin comedian, what happens without spilling the b? i so, so kevin, yeah. what outs out. and if i do that, somebody will pick up a few with beans. listen, this is the way it works. is kevin kevin's planet character loose, you know, not himself, but a version. it's called kid who's, you know, this comedian slash movies, make a $1000000000.00 movie star. does it all mo, goal, you know, whatever biggest movie star in the world kind of thing. wesley plays. com, his brother who's, you know, which we seen a lot of dynamics of people who were, who hit it big. you know, there's the brother or the sibling, or someone in the family who maybe things didn't go the way, but it used to go the ways to start football players. try any things. and he goes to see his brother in philly where he grew up. he's going to do

a big comedy show there, the start of his tor, and they're talking about his $1000000000.00 movies and then there's the fan, which is gene behind the scenes. jean who has been following his career forever. g . a kid played by kevin hart, basically save genes life you'll come to find out how in a way of not maybe physically saved his life. but gene thinks that he saved his life because of his admiration firm in the following of him. and then gene stumbles upon something. no kidding can do that. they, they want him to stumble upon. and that leads to a series of events that happens from the beginning. that intrinsically ties these 3 together and just makes for absolute chaos and really like a heart pacing kind of thing. and away the, i gotta tell you, the trailer gave me an anxiety attack. i said, i gotta jump on in this tonight. i, there's so many things to watch. i can't watch them all, but this one hooked me and i thought, oh, there's another. there's northern scary, it's almost hitchcock, ian when a guy is standing on top of the world. and due to the fates, the furies,

whatever you want to call it, it gets under cut. and i thought of very anxiety provoking yeah. and in harkins back to like the old days of like movies of the week and all that. it's only 4 hours. it's 7 episodes, it's besides the 1st ever. so being 40 something minutes. the rest are like 28. and you know, i've always had a thing in, you know, this being an incredible, absolutely incredible comedian is that comedians make for pretty amazing dramatic actors because there's, you know, we all know the robin williams. philip seymour hoffman wasn't his standard committee, but really was known for a lot of comedic work. but does drama. it's like there's, there's things that happens where people are so used to seeing someone one way. but what i've seen in all my friends are comedians. there's a nice little darkness that might come out sometimes and in this i, i think kevin really puts on to me one of his greatest performances ever. and he's been really tiptoeing into that dramatic stuff. and then wesley, wesley, i mean,

he kills it as, as always, eyes to see him doing that stuff or talking to theoretically we're talking about true story. and it is well more of a, a fraught and suspenseful drama series that kevin hardest running in wesley snipes, isn't it? the rossi plays the super fan and we'll leave it at that. you can go and watch series and, and find out, you know, the old as i hear you talk, i can see your so i sense the strossberg institute because you're so well researched and thought i'd rather, and i'm wondering when do you 1st get the when do you 1st get the bug and tell me about the strossberg experience. i'm intrigued by that. it might be the so aside and, but let's just say it is stronger. ok, let's just say yes. i know, you know what it is like i i was, i was, i didn't start acting till late age. i had a completely different life. i did not know any one who was an actor. i never met

anyone who was an actor of the world seemed completely distant and another place, right? like, you know, you would watch people in t v and film and this is back in the day when new york was where broadway and a few, you know, cop shows were going on network television. and if you want to be a film, sorry you were in l. a. that just the way it worked and i had come out of i, i needed, i was at a crossroads of what was i going to do? i was either going to go this way, which was the bad way for the rest of my life. and now probably would have been very short life or i needed to find something else out. and i had a friend who happened to be in that school. i wound up there because there was a bar right next door and they would all go party there after it. you know, all the people who are in the class and i went, all right, i'll come there later in the next thing. you know, i showed up a couple of more times and i would come a little earlier and i started seeing the people on the roll on the wall, you know, li stroudsburg played famously hyman roth and godfather, and pacino, and dinero,

and all the people who went there marilyn monroe and so many scores of others, and it felt a little closer. and then literally, a couple months later someone came in to cast the film that never came out called born at the wrong time and independent film, which was so early, similar to what i was going, what was going on in my life. and i somehow got the role and i made the decision and i and i went out, tell a my 5 best friends and $600.00 in my pocket, $643.00 to be exact. and here and listen. i don't want to say i sound like have matt damon, crypto commercial, but sometimes you've got to take the risk and that the reward goes to the brave and i'm telling you my man blows through that, but any time you're back on east coast and you and 5 friends and you've got 600 bucks and you had for sally. that's a big star gate. you've got to step through 3 l. i remember. and i did that from pittsburgh that one of my daughters, brother. and i said, i'm live in life. let's go live in life. we. it took us 11 days. it was

1999. you know we got there on halloween, 999, and we had a 70 for blue powder blue, cadillac, and an 85 civic we hadn't, we didn't know anything. we didn't happen, there was no awareness of the world. it was just whatever was happening in the moment. fight club, it just came out. so we were all wearing super clothes i had on like yellow, adidas, sweat pants. and like, you know, some hawaiian shirt. and you know, some eldest glasses and we and we had the time of our lives. and when we got to elaine, none of us had been there. you know, when we got there on halloween, 999. and i think i told the story, but it was, it's really funny now that i think about it we were driving and i, i so fabio at a gas station and i thought holy stars everywhere. this is like, what are we going to sing next? like bob denver, like what is going on here? this was outrageous to me that people were just hanging out who you had seen on. i can't believe it's not butter angels and i was like, this is insane. and, and, and,

you know, it was a really crazy beginning than in away my entire life change with sons of anarchy. like literally everything changed. and i, and it's been, it's been a pretty wild ride. since fortunately, we'll pick it up on sons of anarchy. in a 2nd segment, i'm telling you, i hope you've got that screen play cache called 11 days, because there's nothing emperor than 5 guys on a road. take 11 days, plunking it down on pumpkin day, and see, and foggy on the great thing is you're good. good fabio for the movie now. he looks exactly the 2nd for he's. he's also calling it. but tammy, i would be just the same amount of polymer up he's, he's locked in amber life or amber life dressing, fabio, or something. oh, i'm doing it right after this and i get more instagram or haven't fun with the rossi. and i think he's got a lot of doc holiday and i'm, as i look at, i'm there, i hope you got suddenlink coming up in that room. the stash is very cool. we'll pick it up on sons of anarchy. but the project now

a big hit folks. i think it's the most down show on netflix at the moment. kevin hart, wesley slights nights, our friend theo rossi. and it is the true story on netflix currently streaming back with the rossi right up to this on dennis miller plus one. ah. your eyes bigger for smaller spaces. all of these traits are very common and they're very indicative of our specific claim within the filing genetic tree of life. and if we look at all of these trips in the context of continued human evolution over the last 6 to 89 years since we became operate walking dominant, you can kind of connect the dots and see how they may just simply be us from a future time coming back in to say their own best it's been 70 years since

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a great run brother. you're very employable. i'm trying to think how many of those the jap to read for and what's your thought go in because you seem to now these are dishes. yeah. you know, you know, it was always whenever they needed the guy across the table who look like he did something wrong. they were like that guy. right? so it and that went on if you remember those procedurals and all that and all those things of like, you know, getting someone shady it was like, i was that guy that flip that and i did that for years and then it just so happened . and that's why i think that luck and timing is so much, even sometimes greater than talent is you know it's, it's great when they all meet. but it was the time when the anti hero started to come about the serrato's and the wire. and, you know, and then sons of anarchy came in, it was like they took all those people who used to beam behind the table and being questioned and being the suspect. and now they were the stars. and that's kind of what the sopranos opened up in, oz opened up and then it's kind of that's kind of been where the character actor

moved into this other space. so i just had to stay in the pocket for like 8 years it was, i was that guy, there was 6 auditions, you know, 7 auditions going in 3 in a day, driving around. and, you know, while you were out making big films, i was in era, you know, you want to rather never work in a school fact though you must have been cut man, i can't imagine how lean your game was. you must the felt like, yeah, give it to me. what do you got? what do you want? but boom, boom, boom floyd may was around the light bag i was in. i was in him and, and i just needed to again, i just always had to just stay in the pocket. that was my thing. i was like its gonna, i just gotta keep being there. and when you go in as a guest on those shows, i'll always remember, and this is why i love it so much. when i work with people come in for a few days, you learn more what not to do them. what to do. i've always said, that's the thing about this business. when you're around certain productions, people have been there for a while. you do a big show,

you do big movie and you can, you're on the outside of it a little, but you're still in it now. you kind of learn more what not to do, and i think that really served me kind of now going where hopefully we're gotten, you know, it just started me more, especially again, you know, again, i started later and i think that's a fortunate move to a lot of people, i'll tell you one thing about sons of anarchy at harken back to me. when hunter rode with the angels, he wrote a great book on her thompson called hells angels. and i was always struck in that book. and when you see sunny barge and angels from sandburg do with the ultimate thing, how quickly it could go from kind of a macho, amiable to like primordial evil heart stuff like that, that, that. so when i watch sons of anarchy is like, i'm kind of big in that camp, but that can go to warp speed in a 2nd violence wise. yeah. and i got to, you know, back when we were doing,

and i got to stay at sunny's house for a couple of days in angela. and he was about to do that. yeah. he was about to do this reality show. co riding went sunny and i did the 1st episode with him and i got to stay there. and it was like, it was really peculiar because my uncle who had basically been a giant part of raising me. you know, my dad was gone, just disappear when i was young, and when my uncle raised me, he had come down from california. he left when he was young from new york and he was a prison guard at saint quinton. so he can always tell me the stories, but the angels and all these guys, because he would work at a rockabilly bar and he would play music and he would always talk about the angels and what a lot of people i don't think realize it's not just the angels, it's really motorcycle clubs, in general, as they were spun off from a lot of veterans who wanted to feel camaraderie again when they were back and needed the adrenalin plus the camaraderie, which is a big thing. when a lot of veterans come back, who together all the time and you know, seeing that. so when i got to spend time with sunny it was like

a history lesson because that's really what it was. and i think that, you know, it was more listening of like, how did the start and look what it's become, it's this global thing. and obviously everybody has all their opinions about it. but if you just looking from a historical sense that their club is synonymous with that, you know, almost the wild one, you know, brando and, and all that stuff that was happening. and it was her, it was i try to learn from every person that was with that was an incredible experience. so with sons, even though i audition for it 6 times 6 different characters didn't get any of it. i knew that there was going to be something because what my uncle was laying into my head when i was younger, it felt like it was supposed to be that show. yeah. and it wound up being which was really odd. so listen, can you imagine, can you imagine coming back for a wars a young man and being anymore disaffected? it's perfectly and capsulated in the wild one when they say, what a brenda, what he rebelling against, he goes, what do you got? you come back, you're looking for kindred spirits. hot. where does sunny come out later in life?

i'm always intrigued by that. i didn't even know if he was still alive or not. how was z as an older cat justin loves his horses, loves his family just kind of like stays low, just really, you know, can talk he as the, you know, the, the trade thing, you know, whatever and in he's just very quiet and very observant. i mean, i, i always think about the world is so different. every, obviously the oil changes, you know, that you can't stop change, can't stop whatever goes down. but i would assume that would altamont in like all these things, like it was a wild, a wild situation. also a lot was being formed in the seventy's and eighty's and like this, excuse me, this whole thing. and he really is the genesis, you know, the booze fighters were in time magazine is the 1st ones to be one percenters. but sonny, really, it's almost like he, he put it mainstream. you know, there's always something that it's an impetus for something and then something that

puts it mainstream and he did, and he's just a really quiet stoic, kind of just listening. and i don't think, i don't think people, when they're in that whatever term you want to use, whether be iconic or pioneer or whatever. i don't even know if they realize it when they are, it's only, and i don't think people do until they're gone. you know, it's kind of one of those things. yeah. you only see the con trails when the source of them is absent at some point i, i agree with that. i've met enough katsu seem to be seminal in certain areas and you'd ask them and you know, i hey, it was tuesday, i was living my life. i don't know what the hell i wasn't always right. it wasn't always wrong. but it was just tuesday for me. now listen, i dug a sons a man or he immensely, that one i can see, but i must say, i don't know the comic book world as much. but i certainly know this lou k j in your character shades, that's a big, big at a hook to hang out on career wise as a you get into that universe. it's a great gig, right?

well, it was coming off the sons. i knew that i was going to do these 2 films and then it was the same people who i had just done this film low routers with and one of the same writer, producers that was coming from sons. and for me, the draw was alfie woodard, moore, her shaw, my herschel ali, my culture, all these people that i knew who we were. we've known each other for years and we just wanted to work together. and what was more important was that while it was marvel, it was based in reality, everything was based in reality. so sat in harlem, i had the chance to go home like i, after being on loan in l. a. for 15 years i could move back to new york and that didn't last long, but my mom but i, i was so excited to go back and, and we were just about to have my 1st kid and kind of all that in a. yeah, it was, oh, it was way too cold for me and not, and the worker up and, but i but i did, but i did, but i did. i did, i i, i it was great to be there and shoot in brooklyn. and to be again, i'm a kid a read comics, you know, i to see to play someone who is in

a comic that came out in the seventy's that stanley in that like had create, it's weird and it's cool and it's just a whole different. like you're almost like outside of yourself. and then again, alfred wooder and i who we spent most of our time. you know me hern, hersh, merciless together. it was very like we, we didn't think about it that it was comic book. it was gangsters in harlem doing their thing and trying to get it. that's kind of what it was. well listen, it's that clear ra season, this thing true story with heaven heart and wesley snipes streaming on netflix. and i get a lot of micro imperial li on this get. i just talked to michael sometime in the last 2 weeks. i love the fact that you're mean streets, kid, you head out there, you live in the magnolia life. i lay for a while. then you go back to the mean streets and griffin christ. it's called back here. i gotta get back out that way. so you're settled in the cloud in california

now. right? no, no, no. i live on a ranch in austin lou totally away from all of those things. i do. yeah, i live on a ranch in aust. wow, austin and well listen, everybody's bail it out of delay. because l a is folks i'm telling you is getting pre apocalyptic out here. they're heading to texas. and at some point my theory is people always say words to flash point on the next social conflagration in this country. i always think the day they go into texas and as texans to take care of los angelenos, because they haven't stored their nuts for the winter. i think all the cats are going to move to the inside per foot and say no, come get it because we're not doing more. yes, very. i mean, we're fortunate. we've been here for like 6 years, you know, weaver, my wife is a, is a tax in houston and austin when i met her. you know, she was living in austin for a long time and i brought it to new york and it was the 1st winter we were there.

it was the 2nd cold this winter in history. and the 2nd winter there was the 1st no 1st winter was the 2nd most snow recorded history. and the 2nd winter was there for the coldest in history. and she was like to get on even here. and i was like, yeah, but let's get out here. anna, and you know, we've always wanted a bunch of animals and you know, to have like, more open space where people can come and hang in. now, this is a completely different life, but to i have 2 little boys. you know that just, they're outside all day and playing in the dirt and doing their thing and, you know, really get into it to live a different life than i think i potentially might have lived elsewhere. that's also the, i hope you're taking mental polaroids because as the great author, tom wolf said, you're a man and fool you or stroke in the ball right now and career wise. you got 2 little boys. you got a little room to breathe. he got the woman of your dreams. you're out in austin, but you get to go work anywhere. i you're in the middle of that brother. he a happy man he gave was some people weren't able to be happy. are you happy man?

um, you know, i, i think that i could sit and to answer that fully i've, i've come to the realization as i get older, that happiness is not an overall state that it's moments so like, it's just moments. and if you try to keep it as an overall state, i think that you're setting yourself up for failure. my old thing is like when i go pick my kid up at school in a little while, and he gets in the car and he has his snack and he starts singing. whatever song we put on, he loves it and he likes all the old stuff and you know, he, that to me is happiness. right. watch my 4 year old when they go to jesse later tonight in their role in with their friends nam front like that. i'm in that right when i got the dog out there and she's chasing, dear, and there's all like, it's it to me. it's the moments of it. and if i, because the truth is, you know, it, the world is gone a little strange and you know it, my whole thing with it is, it's just strange to me because you know, humans are fundamentally flawed creatures. and you know where we keep looking at it,

like we're trying to find our happiness and my happiness is in the moment. and in, in what's in front of me, my friends, my family, my dogs, my, i would, i, if it listen, if you gave me the decision right now you never have to talk to a person again and just animals. you wouldn't even finish the sentence. i'm good, you know, i've done my chocolate and, and i think that i, i think this is given us a good time, you know, with all the stuff that's gone on the last years, given a lot of people time to really get to know themselves a little and from me, i've been on that journey a long time and i that's why i love to act. and i love being home that that's my deal. that's where i am. well, i would medicines have big time. it's a beautiful vibe of his 2 men. she to be a life coach, but i'm telling you if you took in what he said in the last few minutes, gather those moments and accumulate of put them in your gathering bag. cuz you might have to pull the vital another moment where a moment becomes a sweet memory, but that's exactly where it's at in my book too. and the feel rossi encapsulated it

beautifully their true story is the show was snipes, kevin heart, our friend theo rossi plays gene, the super fat. well, we'll call him that for the moment. go watch it. like he said, these shirts are shows like mayor of east town. i was immersed than that and then it's over. you walk away this on sounds like it's 7 hours. you got 7 hours and this sounds like great product. indeed, the most down loaded show on netflix right now. pleasure to meet your brother, your good man. yeah, it was a real pleasure to meet you. i know i had just done a film recently. braddox, so i'll let you know if i go back to the old home town house. how mean straight away. all right, good idea. yeah, that is really bless my friend. enjoy your day. all right. all right, other ah talking head cross purposes. this is at the heart of the west narrative,

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