and we will resolve all other issues as well. thank you so much. thank you. we can go me 3. we are free to go ask. thank you. ok, we just saw the conclusion as a joint press conference between vladimir and the federal russian president, alexander lucas shanker. he's in moscow at the moment they've held talks, and that was a summary really of what they discuss. let's go through some of that say, with the ascii taylor, she's in the center of most go to covering what happened there over the last half hour or so. and of course, no surprise, ask you that ukraine was sort of top of their agenda. well, absolutely. i mean, it has been a very busy 10 days, politically, hey, and marcus almost been a revolving door of heads of state. and of course i right hand man, we've seen just in the last 2 weeks. like i said, the french president, john chancellor, british, natalia and foreign minister, the brazilian president different chiefs to and this friday it was the battle

russian lead time. was alexandre lucretia. and we were here and we just thought you had a copy of his coming in to descend into the kremlin. now he got me putin did recently meet in december. but of course, today's meeting comes in a slightly more context of friendship between moscow and men. has come on to me in recent days, not even because at the moment this is something that personally just talked about and not press conference is i'm going joint military job between marcia on federal school. the allied was old, 2022. and in fact, i'd say what meeting earlier today, they gave not only a handshake, a hug, but they also said that on saturday if everything go to land that hoping to take a very active participation in those drills, the work has interpreted. and this is why the friction is really started, hasn't touched these games, i post all of the ukraine and that is despite,

and this is something of last minute and just reiterated despite he, with his own i seeing that foreign i to shave on representatives all that on the don't embarrass witnessing these troops engage and walk him so that clearly it's visible to that and but there is nothing nefarious going on with regards to any potential invasion of ukraine. and this is still obviously, despite the kremlin saying that those wool games will be wrapping up dates very bought. most like it's going to be already the sunday and equipment. going to start shifting out quite soon. on the 2 of them really were talking about cooperation. they said that this is something that's gone from strength to strength, especially in the defense there. and they sat, unfortunately it's something that is needed increasingly because of what is i interpreted as the aggressive expansion all that nato inching closer and closer to all of that borders. i'm now, like i said, despite the kremlin and lucas shanker justice saying, look, we've got, we're practicing all drills for ourselves so that we can be ready. just as nato

troops claimed that bag, just getting ready to be defending themselves. an unfortunate despite all of this, we all still hearing from washington, this rach reg, that particularly those troops and paris that getting ready to invade ukraine. and in fact an attack. this at the imminent attack might happen in the next few days. our information indicates clearly that these forces are preparing to launch an attack against ukraine in the coming days. we don't know exactly the formal take. it could be a fabricated so called terrorist bombing inside russia for a fake even a real attack using chemical weapons. well, so those are the concerns and allegations that we're hearing from me blink. can not any evidence of course, given all those wild claims what we are hearing today with the concerns coming, especially from from president. oh, i think in fact let's just return to that press conference. i'm sure john giving

some questions now as both sides please me. a she say you pointed out you for russia and bellows, good neighbors and strategic partners with the common history in the spiritual values family ties. there were 3 ways and we have one corporation in many areas. it's always based on mutual consideration that was of interest or city. what we've always place never says on developing or economic and trade relations despite the current of virus pandemic, we've had over 30 percent growth. the 34.4 percent growth in 2021 1000000, amounting to $38500000000.00. russia accounts for over half of dollars and exports in the country is going to be

a leader in real sector investments. and barrows show up in the front mounting to over 30 percent of foreign direct investment we will aim to provide will even better condition for other businesses of both of our country. we try lithium, leisure on a central topic. now discussions of lease inter was developing integration and building the union stake issue, and you discussed the progress of the thing on the supreme council decisions subsidy isn't. what's it, what's the matter? we discussed the gram 28. the go allied programs implemented in the union is pointing out that these $28.00 programs put those down for their own. the are a continuation of about using

a long standing work in the of them to integrate our countries to william. and we've had a good and productive work in all areas, including in the a group on coordinating integration which will have held next meeting in december. but we also have intense oppression with between our governments with prime ministers met 8 times last year. they're in constant touch of the big wood issue or your stores. it gives them that. but then the leash them come through it. is that so the good news is we have looked at this and the more we did it here and take it out via email. but usually just as the teachers get, what was the budget, what did i see? you was just trying to get your critic would it be a little expensive over 3 years?

would you meet with jennifer? what did you mean? i mean the, the was a claim was no, this was a we didn't get enough. so is here to put him out there in europe and we are when you are use of people take joint measures to minimize our sanctions are from the army other countries, but the illegitimate sanctions aimed at undermining our economies. but you worse than we figured out. weaver also, you must have been a made up progress on crating that i'm you got didn't know a union from the what the payment system ended up to coordinate our customs and tax frameworks with you and are providing a supplies really in the energy sector and other fields can use them up like all these efforts on our agenda. we're also are named re too much improve the economies of our countries,

it and can increase the quality of life for our populations. if you do, you want to speak and then other integration formats have also been discussed issue such as the integration with them, the are you region economic union was mr. figures told us that should in the you, which concert constitutes your area a single and markets for goods and labor. we go a little dinner we have discussed junior, you know, as the strengthening of our defense a space. so any b, b and o, we also agreed to take all measures necessary. let us that way in the our, to ensure our mutual security. they especially considering the, the nato military activities along the borders of our countries. with the workforce we unit was a couple of assessed upon the a military drills held in belarus, jointly with russia. you can,

one of those drills are purely defensive and kara sandwich and they're not a threat to any one which we have informed all parties concerned about the plans for these maneuvers and that goals. we can to mr. the cushion co visited on the sites of these drills and he saw military tashing from other countries who sold these military exercises with our own eyes. we also discussed our dialogue with the western leaders solution that you get with regards to the russian tony request to provide security guarantees, legally binding guarantees to ensure the security of the russian federation. i'm sure that our ability and allies level needs share our interest in this regard. unusual to show that the substance we're ordering of our demands is one

way to ensure the non expansion of nato. this issue is to know if the city and the non deployment of a military of weapons along the borders, and also not through the reversion of military infrastructure to the states of a 997 western partners. sadly unprepared to listen to us. but in this respect, you couple of other issues such as military transparency and intermediate range massage may be discussed. but only if these questions are taken together with our core priorities, which are paramount for us and if you, but we also discussed the ukrainian conflicts property

of the cranium settlement. but there is still going a slowly, despite all the efforts necessary. because in the normal format and consultations with our partners, if your key is still not implementing the room and women's cords and as refusing to engage in direct dialogue with don as kalu hans sabotaging the implementation of the bottom of the promises. that's a special status will be accorded to the republics in the constitution. they cannot, that we're seeing constant human rights violations and the discrimination that you will of the russian people are incredibly giving you to being a legislated into existence. you're welcome. diffusing tensions around ukraine. justin is the core of aim. our efforts key of needs to do is

to just give and associates with that on us can lose the chance to take honda mental measures to bring the conflict with to a conclusion about so far. we've only seen an escalation that shows up, but it looks to conclude, i'd like to thank mister lucca shank. oh, just for you to go to our constructive work. and i'm sure that that of these talks will serve the development of our relations, which is to, as allies and friends. we have more events plans starting to morrow on our joint military activities. thing, which i'm going to resume better senior. right here. okay. say we were listening there. so joint press conference, vladimir putin and a better russian president, alexander lucas shanker, who is in moscow at the moment. they have talked about a lot of things, including the integration cooperation between both of their countries. but of course, the top of the agenda was the situation dirty guarantees from nato. so that's the

summary of what they were talking about over the last couple of hours or so. now we can go to a developing situation in the city kind at the moment. oh, because the self proclaimed dynette peoples republic has started evacuating civilians to russia. the leader of the region does say that that's because of shelling from the ukrainian army targeting residential area. and we can go live now to get the latest to speak with our tea correspondingly roman casa, if he's in yet, skinner, ro, man, just run through them. what's been happening? ending ask over the last few hours of say, what exactly are the head of the self proclaimed kurt dennis people's republic. denisa. pushin indeed announced evacuation of 5 people from uh, from the, from the country. he said the evacuation should begin as soon as possible,

but his starts of this friday. he says that the president's offer ukraine. vladimir zalinski is ready to issue an order to his troops to begin an offensive as soon as possible. and of course, she was his side of the sharp, og aggravation of the ukrainian military. ah, he declared that a daily build up of lethal weapons poses a potential threat to those people who live closer to the front lines and called on them to evacuate to her russia as soon as possible. he says that uh, the evacuation will be organized and old. necessities and shelter will be provided to them in the roster of region her with has government. he already has an arrangement less have a listen to board offer was denise bushland had said we appeal at what eye clinic on the film equipment, but when the enemy shells the populated areas of the don. yes,

republic the life and health of our citizens is endangered. who will, so from to day mass transportation of civilians to russia has been organized. the local one, the 1st of all, women, children, and the elderly to be evacuated. what's it with now? the head of the login's people's, their ripa republic. lenny positioning issued a similar statement to the people of the, of his country. he called on all those who are not involved in vital activities in republic to evacuate to russia as soon as they can at he also called on men to, to send up and be ready to defend their motherland. that according to her learned positioning, the head of the self proclaimed logan's people's republic. meanwhile, earlier in the day, the president of russia, vladimir putin, what he was amazing with his bill or russian counterparts in the kremlin said that's indeed russia is a witnessing escalation of the conflict in dunbar. and he called on both sides of

the conflict to sit down and begin a dialogue and to sold this conflict, fruit negotiation and not for the means of far fighting. meanwhile, our crew here in the don barza, we've been here for quite a while already. and we've been witnessing that escalation is taking place. indeed, it actually hasn't been this loud here in quite a while in months or maybe even years. the escalation had already resulted in a couple of people, been a wounded civilians margin, of course a civilian infrastructure was damaged as well. the escalation along the front lines was also witnessed and confirmed by the always c monitoring mission. as for a civilian infrastructure that was damaged, sure. well, of part of the railway here in the next people's republic was destroyed and in a low gone sca,

the gas company reported that one of its supply applies was destroyed as well been while we are right now in the sensor offered and that square it seems a well, very com and i've been talking to other people here as well. are there say the evacuation, the major part of the evacuation will probably begin on a saturday meal want. meanwhile, they are already preparing in russia to meet all the evacuation. people come from both annette and elegance to people's republics, and course will stay here and monitor everything that's happening and bring it to you. as soon as we become available. now, we are right now hearing a siren i here in the center of the nest. i'm not sure what that's attributed to perhaps so we are expecting something to come by this something that i haven't heard here in days. blood said this siring is ongoing at the moment. um, i can see the people around me are still walking, but that could be, that could be,

could i could mean anything. perhaps it's time to find a bomb shelter, perhaps, is just at the fest that's taking place right now in preparation for a potential offensive from the ukraine military. they can hear the siren is as still taking place. i cannot hear anything else besides this siren there can see the people walking around very calmly and i guess so we'll find out exactly what's going on and i will tell you about it in our next broadcast. but for now, siren is the only sound i can hear. i cannot hear and explosions. i can not hear any gunfire or anything like that. but of course we'll bring you the latest as soon as possible. oh, once again, this could be just a. it says to, for the, a civilian defense, but we'll find out and bring it to you when we can. yeah, we'll certainly highlight the increased tension in the region. anyway. ro, ma'am,

will let you get to a safe place for now. that was the room and cost of reporting alive that from east in ukraine. and we, while russia's foreign minister has given an exclusive interview with archie about the ongoing tension. zavy crane saying that the west has been laying the groundwork to suggest that a russian invasion would always be a threat against the all this is propaganda fake some fictions. but the main thing is that the authors of these fakes themselves believe in what they say. so if it's pleasant for them, why not? but of course, all this causes a smile, adult spirit predictions and spells every day. at the same time, the nato secretary general states that they have no information about an absolute probability of an attack. and at the same time, the foreign office also declares that no matter what happens, we must be on guard. if russia withdraws its troops, the threat will not disappear. the brits for the future already being laid. the

topic is being habit forever and ever. oh, okay, well let's discuss all of this a bit further. now. bring in russia analysts martin mccauley. he joins us from the u. k. mark, and always good to to you. let's start with that joint press conference that we heard just a few minutes ago. from mr. pace and mr. lucas shank from better race. both showing a united front on the crisis in ukraine and also talking about the pressure that runs from the west. how do you think the west is going to view that and they will see it just as a continuation of russian politics. does he augment that this is an information wall in the west and some people in the west say it's an information wall and therefore russia and rows are really seeing the same song. they're very, very joint. they're very close and charm and they are in fact say exactly the same thing as you would expect. and for a western body view,

there was nothing new that would say there's nothing new and what they said, they reiterated the position that russia, i've no intention of attacking the roost. obviously a new interest in involving itself in ukraine and shark and the tension in fact, all coming from the west with entity blink and talking about a full flag, perhaps explosions in russia. we say explosions in ukraine and song which will start to conflict. and again, even from the western point of view, they say, we don't have any precise information about that. there's no hard evidence that there is in fact occurring. in other words, it's an information war. they're, they're making these statements and they're lobbying them back to the russian tonight. and then the russians will then encounter with that. no, that is not correct. we have no intention of invading, we're going to withdraw poses, and you were helping the tension and so on. so this information was just going on

or not, but that's better. it's better to have an information more than an actual war. therefore, as long as the longer this continues, then hopefully a resolution, a peaceful resolution will emerge. peace resolution of just talk. i'll respond and live in east and you train with air raid sirens, going off. and then yes, the 1st time in many months, months he was saying, i'm president putin did raise the point the look he had continues to bring them in . the dreams is not negotiating with the the, the break way republics of east and ukrainian yet there's no pressure. it seems from the west for them to do that. well, from the western body of you very agree with kids that you don't enter into negotiations with nets and long st. pete republics. so proclaimed republics. because if you do that, you recognise them internationally and dramatically, therefore,

keel will not enter into direct negotiation with them. it will only go through germany and france and russia, and this, this is from a cranium point of view. so it's very difficult for them. they can only do it really in association with the allies, with the supporters and show them. and they are adamant at present, that they will not enter into direct to everybody and normal relations with these republics. so proclaim republics because that would, in fact, legitimize them. and then key of would accept that doing this could be a 100 co bush or in fact independent of ukraine, and then unwilling to do that so it may happen in the future, but it's not going to happen. now. in the meantime, martin, we have that. i think it was the leader to the region and yet saying that civilians,

russian civilians said i should now have evacuate that region and had to russia. you concerns about the escalation that we seen over the last few hours in that part of the world. that is a very, very threatening situation, mr. going to a dangerous situation. the talking but beginning the evacuation on saturday. ready so that was not going to happen now, but then that that's, that's only to morrow and the civilians will then move out of these 2, shall we came republics. which would in fact be an escalation that would mean that both sides it's ah, preparing for a conflict. and the kid will then said, well, that means that the, these areas have been evacuated of civilians and so on. so therefore, this will make it more likely from a key point of view from american point of view, but russia would attack. so that's what we're having a situation very complicated situation where it's better for its safer for the

civilian population to leave. in case they're caught up in a conflict, but if by doing that, then escalates detention. and washington will then said, well, why are they doing that? it may be that russians in preparing to attack, whereas they do put in said no, we have no intention of taking with n t. i will say the same thing and they will say, right, we have to defend ourselves. the danger here is that somebody will fall roughly from miss of by accident and started conflict, which nobody wanted. nobody expected. that's the danger. in this situation where you have to military facing one another, somebody can make a mistake. i miss judgment. so what's the one move martin that's going to de escalate this because all we see at the moment is tensions rising. people are making demands. those demands aren't being met on either side from your perspective, what's the way i'd have? what would you like to see happen next?

the 2 sides would find some common language. the problem is that the 2 sides are speaking past the dialogue, the def, they're not really communicating. there's not really, there's no negotiations going on. one side is stacy is position reiterating and position inside choosing other are preparing war. the other side does exactly the same thing and says, we're not preparing for war. and you are talking up to this contract. and sean, what the need to do is just sit round a table and say, right, let's come down and let's find a peaceful solution. has conflict. neither side one's war. because that would be disastrous for both countries. disaster for europe, disasters in the world. so let's give, get around the table and find some common language and present the additional common language because the 2 sides are reiterating their stated position with the reiterate time and time again i'm, i can only hope

a gradually one study would say, right, ok, let's discuss this little point, we can talk about something and then develop that, find some common language about something which is not really threatening, not really military. and then it take that forward and say right, that's expand is the these talks and sean. and let's start negotiating because the president will not negotiate. we're talking 1st one another, and you, the russia once this result, america and they want to result. let's find a common language if you can. it's really very, very difficult at present. there's no sign of that happening in listening to elaborate earlier today he gave the exclusive interview to our team. within that, he suggested that the west is laying the ground work to suggest that russia would always threaten some sort of invasion on ukraine. are ye,

the pretext is there to put more troops, nato troops in to eastern europe, to prevent that from happening. he's saying that, look, they're not going to just say, oh, it's going to happen tomorrow. the next day they're going to suggest that the threat will always be that yes not. that is one of the disadvantages from us. from a russian point of view, this conflict hasn't brought the ukrainians together and resulted in their credit and military been much better repair that was 3 months ago or even a year ago. to resist an attack, even the tech comes. so therefore, from the great point of view, they benefit from this escalation attention because they're getting more more war, mateo youngs and brokerage and so on from the united states. and nato is willing to provide germany prevention, the export of lethal weapons. but the americans could go ahead and deliver weapons and so on. and then the americans had right intentionally increases. we will then

send drugs to poland boldly, stage check, republic and so on. to prepare the defense of those areas. which in fact is miss collation attention. and therefore, the situation may develop when you get to comes nature. in fact, america will in fact increase its militia prisons, in ukraine and in poland and check republic and so on. and the situation will then become more, more dense from a western point of view. that would be really a disadvantage because they want a solution to this problem because you will see from the russian party who they want de escalation attention and a military solution. so from both sides they, you have an escalation of tension, ocean preparation for war. i hopefully this will not come about. and to the 2 sides

have to find some common language. they have to come together and say, right, we would not, we will, of the west. they do. and so the americans will withdraw their true drugs. they're putting into, into eastern europe in the nato countries. nice europe. and also they can withdraw some of the elements which have been delivered to those states. in return for a de escalation laundry. russia troops returning to their garrisons and de escalation tension, so on. so yeah, you have a possible possible solution here. the 2 sides of something out to debate and that perhaps they can negotiate that i can just finally martin us a.