from both sides, they have an escalation attention and also preparation for war. and hopefully this will have to worry about. and to do sides have to find some common language they have to who may come together and say, right. we would not, we will, of the west. they too. and so the americans will withdraw that true. the troops are putting into, into eastern europe in the nato countries. nice in europe. and also they can withdraw some of the elements which have been delivered to those states in return for a de escalation, for russia, troops return into the garrison's and de escalation tension. so on. so yeah, you have a possible possible solution here. the 2 sides of funding now to debate and that perhaps they can negotiate that i can just find the mass and i suppose one positive

to take is that there's no shortage of efforts for diplomacy is correspond with saying it's like a revolving door world. lead is in moscow at the moment. everybody's still talking . got these men because somebody once said they have georgia that war war and the world wakes and expects and hopes that this diplomacy will continue and continue and continue on until a solution has been found which is acceptable to both sides. russia has an argument that nato has to go back to. it's pretty $997.00 front isn't. so i'm not sure i'll, except absolutely unacceptable. it will say it's up to poland, the baltic states, their sovereign states, and laid aside. if one needed to stay, they want to stay and need to leave made of the americans don't do that and made to itself doesn't decide that. so that you have a situation now where all sides are gearing up florida conflict in preparation for a late movie comes late and hopefully this will inside concentrate mines. and one

more diplomacy will be needed. and eventually, some kind of compromise will be arranged with those slides can come together and start negotiating. what is happening at present is there no trust whatsoever between the 2 sides in order to get to a settlement, a military settlement, you have to have trust. and the only way to do in gender trust is negotiate and gradually build up trust. so that one can call on russia dealers. and ne, to the west, please, would you please try and increase trust between you so that we can find a solution. only diplomatic solutions possible because a villager solution would be disastrous for everyone and everyone except that. yeah, certainly not a solution that's hyper, it happens. it finds a way diplomatically. i came off and leave it there. really nice to talk to you that was martin mccauley. rush around list speaking to their life from the k. now

he was saying the russian and better russian presidents have just held a press conference after their talks in moscow focusing heavily on the crying crisis. both the voice, the alarm over the parents tend to escalate the situation in the breakaway danielle and again, screech and so we can cross live now to our correspondent in the center of moscow saskia taylor who is covering that joint press conference a lot discuss that. but of course, ukraine, top of the agenda, they're asking what to do as you and i, and you were just discussing yesterday the last 10 days. and moscow been so busy, political almost felt like this revolving door with heads of state and cancel that right hand man. where that's the brazilian president, french, one, the german johnson, a defense ministers, and foreign ministers to on friday, it was the town of the bell russian liter, alexander lucas jenko. and as we were here at 2 pm,

we saw his helicopter land just behind me a descent into the kremlin. those talks last for about 2 and a half hours, mike. he said it's because there is an awful lot on the agenda. i'm now he android me. putin did meet recently just in december, but tar fridays meeting did come and very much more tense context. and that is because the historic friendship between minsk and moscow has come under scrutiny, particularly in recent weeks. and that is the cause. currently they are holding the joint military drills called the allied to resolve at 2022. in fact, as they shook hands and hugged earlier today, they agreed that most likely tomorrow, both of them would take active participation in those wall games, which has i'm sure, an announcement that will send weston headlines into a tizzy. i'm unfortunately, they said that these drills have become especially necessary in light of what they described as nato pumping weapons into ukraine, which is of course, just to the south of palo russ. on the west has

a very different take on the allied resolve. they see them as very hostile, these are the ukraine, and that is despite that being foreign representatives and to chaise on the ground, observing them, making sure that there's no aggressive action happening. and that is also, despite the fact that the criminal has on numerous occasions, something weird reiterated today that they will be wrapping up in the coming days. and all the equipment will be shifted out very soon afterwards. but still, despite the fact that the west is receiving, numerous, reassured, says not only that that will be no invasion of ukraine, but these, ah, waterfalls are just a defensive. and despite of cool cit good of all the prophecies of an invasion on 15th and 16th turned out to be false. we continue to hear this very dogmatic war mongering rhetoric coming out of washington. our information indicates clearly that these forces are preparing to launch an attack against ukraine in the coming days.

we don't know exactly the formal take. it could be a fabricated so called terrorist bombing inside russia, or a fake even a real attack using chemical weapons. while blinking seems to be fabricating evidence, at least not providing it at all. in the meantime, what russia saying is that we have a very clear concrete situation where it's failing to fulfill the mence agreement, which is of course about 13 point talk human, which basically is trying to bring an end to the conflict in easton ukraine, and said was bullets at the war, the west isn't pressuring ukraine to stick by it. again at this press conference on friday, we heard president putin reiterating his concern, especially about the fact that those are the self proclaimed done. yet the guns problems of regions have not yet been awarded. the special status, which is one of the points of the midst protocol, he's somebody touched upon the discrimination,

the russian language people are facing all over ukraine. he also very much lamented that the situation seems only to be deteriorated. to show you the rotational. yes, but got us throw in another nato members so for show no desire to adequately address the core elements of our initiative. we are willing to engage in negotiations and these issues are considered together as one complex without separating them from the main rational proposal, which are a priority for us. what i think actually what we might have heard, that is, president putin was about nato and rushes desire to see legally binding documentation. that was a big issue both. look, shank oh and president putin talked about them. they both had a concern that nature seems to be aggressively expanding. eastwood and he talked to us, we had the present patient about how the west seems unwilling to engage in any kind of constructive dialogue. he would like, for example,

that not only be no father expansion, but to the u. s. remove at 60000 or so to some central and eastern europe, as well as grief. somehow, either not to deploy size or to remove full stop, such a type of miss tiles not to construct and will be able want to do was sit down at the table and talk seriously regarding situations specifically and, and how it was. and this is what he said if there are math, elation of human rights and creation or which is what keith has to do, is to sit down at the negotiating table with the representative of the don bath and agree on political military, economic and humanitarian measures to end the confines, i mean the sooner the better. unfortunately, we are now seeing an escalation of the situation in the darkness. it's not just vladimir putin, we're hearing nessa, we've had this a consistently from, from moscow doc, the west and only recently, in fact, a special meeting in the un that the west is almost wilfully turning a blind eye to. keith just trampling over the midst protocols to the luxury that

attempts to place the blame on russia are futile and baseless. i must say that we are very disappointed by the ostrich like position of our western colleagues who are trying not to see obvious things over reasonable. well, they both also briefly touched upon the west, new favorite foreign policy tool and not is of course it sanctions president lucas shanker, particularly talking about how they are not only illegitimate, but they have also proved to be fruitless because both countries have developed almost an immunity to them and developed fortress economies better us so has not to look with them, essentially is what he said. he also added that if the e u and the u. s. y to put any farther sanctions on either of the countries they would be retaliated in a mirror form. ukraine, like i said, was front and center, but that's only to be expected, especially since we seem to be hearing reports of situation. and he seems to be escalating despite will these claims of pushes to a diplomacy, both clarity,

shadows, concerns about nato, and about the west behavior in general to other countries. very legitimate security concerns that while thing will positive things discussed. * and of course, better us and russia historically, culturally, economically very closely tied. there are always areas for them to develop and deepen that relationship, which was also something that they talked about in very constructive manner today. okay, well thanks for the update their se, ask it up. saskia taylor quoting from the center of moscow and that joint press conference between vladimir payton and alexander lucas shanker just a bit earlier in the meantime, a nice i think tank has wrongly predicted russia would invade ukraine last week, is ramping up. the accusations saying that it is moscow that is sewing disinformation with moral not his lurid cast. if. if you haven't heard about the atlantic council, at is arguably one of the most aggressive pro,

valence think tags in the world. that is the de facto thing, tag of nato. so no surprise, they've been at the forefront of this hysteria that we're all sick of. just listen to their deputy director. put in has big, we can plans in ukraine. he's going to cut power and heat knockout ukraine and navy and air force kill general staff and hid them with cyber attack. then install pro russian president and resort to full scale military invasion if ukraine doesn't give in. this was last week and just like her previous predictions, no one invaded anyone, but she did her job. she helped mislead countless people and spreads immeasurable fear, panic and, and even terror. and she, she has now been hired by the u. s. government to lecture on russian, this information. but what other things, can you the u. s. government, european governments, new koreans do. i to combat states foster?

just information efforts coming from moscow. we live in an upside down world. the atlantic council, which is co funded by such organizations as the u. s. military, all manner of west and weapons manufacturers, as well as well. johns and a slew of banks. you would think that with all that money, the atlantic council would be a serious organization. analysts and intelligence and tactical teams and strategic teams. no. their predictions of basten feelings and emotions. we have learned emotions running high and i let them get the better of me. i still expect action this week, but putting me drag this out. we still don't know, but i'm line. is that a recognize that i need to be more judicious, her feelings? her heart told her that, that bowden was about to cut power to ukraine and, and kill their senior officers a dake out the navy coast. the millions of dollars her organization gets from american weapons, manufacturers whose stock prices are directly dependent. the public fear had

nothing to do with that. similarly, i think she would be against having to disclose that the atlantic council is funded by arms manufacturers in every one of her tweets. she's also against us state funded media, having to disclose such information like voice of america. i'm voicemail america had a great reputation trusted. i mean, al, it was the status. does it still have a good reputation and is it blocked in russia? i'm surprised it was a lot. and there we go. that discussion on russian. this information turns and to dis, information about russia and ridiculous situation comically. but until you realize that these people are advising the u. s. government, european states media outlets. and you can only wonder how much more damage of their emotions done that we don't know about. they produce

a lot of effect on policy making because they determine the debate. so they work to shut out. people with alternative viewpoints are to promote of the dominant narrative. well, it poses a lot of risks, but i think from their point it's a win win. so, ah, if there is an invasion, then they look kind of prescient. and if there isn't, they'll all run around something in their chair saying how strongly are and how moscow back down. because joe biden's such a tough leader. in fact, thomas friedman just wrote a column basically saying that the other day, so they are one of the, i was say, major propaganda tools that are used by the, the, the security state. okay, let's go back to our breaking news now from east and ukraine because sirens have been blaring in the city of didn't yet square a mass evacuation is civilians is now underway. the leader of the self proclaimed

than yet scruples for public says that people are being sent to russia to escape shelling from ukrainian army. we can go live now to the next can speak while correspondent, the roman coastal ro man. the last time i spoke to you about 10 minutes ago, the air raid sirens were blaring. i hear that they have nice. so what's the situation in the, the sorry and so were herds of for out of the city of jeanette scan, the we are in the center. it was a very loud here indeed, but absolutely nothing. hold on to that. so we gathered that it was just a test or a civil defense. so can still see people on the streets walking calmly or, you know, saw them drinking coffee and not being, not seemingly worried at all. and that said, despite the fact that the head of the self proclaimed the next people's republic had earlier announced the evacuation of our citizens on the next people's

republic to russia. he said that the president of ukraine of late emir zalinski is all but ready to issue an order for an offensive on the republics. he said that troops are already amassed along the front line in this conflict has been going on for nearly 8 years already. now he declared that a daily build up of lethal weapons opposes a real real threat real danger to civilians for liver along the front lines and called on them to evacuate to russia as soon as they can. he said that in russia both food and shelter will be provided as that there was an agreement made with the government of iraq, south region. now as we know around dennis can to other cities in the people's republic, bosses are on, they're ready to take people and deliver them to the russian border from,

from where they'll be taken to places of temporary shelter. let's have a listen to what said denise, pushing the head of the people's republic. said a little bit earlier about the evacuation. but if still a but i seem to come this enormous bullet though it is when the enemy shells the populated areas of the town. yes, republic, the life and house of our citizens is endangered. so from today, mass transportation of civilians to russia has been organized, livable when the 1st of all women, children, and the elderly ought to be evacuated. what is it? now the neighbouring elegance, people's republic are also made an announcement to the ahead of the republic. learned the positioning also issued a statement calling on all a citizens who are not working on defending the republic to get up and evacuate to russia. oh, where they will be provided with all of the necessities. and he also called on all those men who can pick up arms to stand up and defend their motherland mil white in

while earlier but little bit earlier in moscow, russian president vladimir putin said that indeed kremlin had been witnessing an escalation of the conflict. say here in don boss, but he called on all sides of the conflict to begin negotiations to talk face to face and that to soul, this conflict through a dialogue. meanwhile, our, our crew here we've been here for quite a while. all ready and indeed escalation has been very intense. so we've been hearing damaging to civilian infrastructure. we heard about a couple of people being a wounded, serv. oh, those people who live near the front lines of course is talking about civilian infrastructure. a part of the railway was destroyed in logan's sca local gas company announced that one of its pipelines, well, it was destroyed by shelling as well. now our c monitor emissions, speaking of whom, by the way, there base is

a ride there behind me and i was looking a little bit earlier. all of their cars are present. they're on the parking lot. so they remain here, obviously, and not on patrol at the moment as the parking lot is full of the o is see cars, but they have also a record of the fact that the situation along the front line is indeed an escalating, of course. so we are monitoring the situation here over time will bring you the latest as soon as becomes available. but for now i could probably see that a while situation seems to be very alarming across the republic. i was probably more so on the outskirts of the city as the city a center seems to be a relatively calm at the moment in the cable. that type of site that way. the romano, thanks for the update that was artes, roman cost of reporting live there from dan yeske. now, as he mentioned the present to valerie says the case western powers of inflame the situation in ukraine. alexander lucas shank, who was speaking just now at a joint press conference with vladimir putin in moscow. lupus was shown as

people privy to the issue. though you can see that all of this is not even in the hands of our neighbors, including ukraine. of course, it's also obvious to you who is responsible for aggravating tensions. we can see in all its glory, the un accountability, and it is, excuse me, my direct words is dull mindedness of a number of western politicians up with the behavior from the leaders of our neighboring countries. that is irreconcilable with logic in their almost morbid desire to walk on the very edge from you, but is in there's a long. okay, well let's go live night to moscow. base polish lan list at the nice me internet media project to meet bobby she very welcome to matri. thanks for coming on this afternoon. we, we just listening that to an exit from the press conference held between peyton lucas shanker early today. lucas shank, blaine's dull minded politicians in the west for aggravating the conflict in ukraine. g. think he has a point. i think he has

a point especially buried in mind what has been going on in the last few days. you know, when the president biden several times said. a that trash would invade ukraine on the 16th of february, that on some other day in the coming days. but there latest reports from the people's republic and from the people's republic there was give course for concern . i will bring your attention to the fact that during these press conference, while we can talk again about the means agreements and the means agreements. you know, this is a peaceful way out of the see creation. they basically, if you look at the essence of that means piece agreements, these regions don't yet kind of get and huge amount of autonomy you will build in water calling is not huge. but in fact, this is a point to me in exchange for ukraine at the latest stage,

or is human control over the border between these republics and russia. so, would you believe in the peaceful, non violent solution to this problem? so if there is a fight in right now, even to rob indonesia and the new gun, it will not be from the russian side. it will not be provoked by the russian. it obviously discriminant, the watch moment for the russians. this will come from the other side, which obviously we try to use the violent way out of this. just on that point to mainstream united, russia often highlights the importance of these minsk agreements, but that doesn't seem to be the same level of concern from the west, the back these agreements. why do you think that this? well 1st, when i hear western politicians talking about the music agreements, i always have an impression that they have never read them because they keep

talking about some russian obligations according to these agreements. if you look at the text, the war, russia is not mentioned that a single time. basically what the agreement say is that your brain should give the territory as a special state or your brain to declare amnesty for the people who participated in the fight. in the 20142015, ukraine should leave the volcano. none of that has been done by ukraine, but it doesn't bother the west, the west keep saying, the russia somehow. he's under obligation to, to let key the key of regime reduce control this very, this is how they read these agreements. and this is just laughable because it's not a long text. it's about, you know, 3 or 4 pages by the western leaders. keep talking about these agreements, cherry peeking in all the points that are dangerous. is the situation becoming in

east and you try and i mean, this is the conflict this rumbled for years now. but given the recent developments and the order of the evacuation civilians from their into russia, how concerned are you that we could see a heightened level of conflict there? i'm very concerned because even during their table fight and in 2014, 2015 where ukrainian lanes, you know, walkway and we're both been done yet. going to got and it was then that the m a 17 was dealt because, you know, this is not mentioned by the western press now, but at the very moment at the very d don't you have to move for boom, from the air. so even then the local government did not ask people to evacuate to russia. it was per shinkel, you know, who was the you bring in president. he said that you can leave for russia by to safe corridors that we will leave you. and you can even leave with weapons. so

obviously, she could, didn't one of the russian speaking population in the near coming up. he wanted to tell you, but without the people know it's the local go back to the you know, the people's republic themselves were asking the civilians to leave. because obviously if they face the danger, you know, let me remind you that in 2008 when soccer really felt that it was basically the same scenario. there was dancing for several days. mr. saca to or v misinterpreted the western support. looking at the green light for resolving their separate issue as he called it. and he just started going body and body in the metro one night. the city was the whole, is destroyed, you know, and, and then the georgia groups all the retreated where the russian army gotten,

you know, the georgia and troops were radiate. griff, you know, the smallest safety and minority, but they were not prepared to please the russian army. so if the real stops now, i think the main goal will be to provoke the russian army to get involved. and then mr. biden will be vindicate. and because he is prediction will come through and that's why i think we're now facing one of the most dangerous moments in this absurd. what? because this is a war between people speaking almost the same language. watch the same television, most of their lives were gone to the same schools who basically the same 1st and 2nd leave. this is that the most terrible civil war that they can imagine had been . boy, if there is another clara, now it will get graded. these needs to be avoided, i think the last sure, the wide rational and here not to start. you know that there, there. right now,

it will be a brian to start that. that right? okay. well, let's hope that very much that, that does not happen. dmitri really nice tool to that was a moscow base political analyst, dimitri babbage, thank you. you watching us, he will be back with more coverage of a new crime, plus the rest of the world. events of the day will be back in treatments. ah, with most of his c a o m a

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