want make next steps in these directions. we have no sign to a parent here so there could be no parent got the united states can renounce any agreements previously reached. they can withdraw from any documents. they sign no communion table but never the last book. at least something should be in writing. not only will should become when you should, when you move them to go. it's a legally binding, but it's not command, but we can't reach the question terms. forgotten about pieces. so that's how i suggest we work. first, i would like to give the floor to mr. la brokers who but we took the good so, so now trying to count to an agreement with washington with brussels with natal regarding the security guarantees. and then i would like to ask mr. cause if i ask him to join us today, he is here. i can see that you would sumption and i would like to go to school, give us he's you can ask them about what is going on with the negotiations on the

implementation of the minister agreements. with them workers, and then i will give it a floor to every one of you, but eventually we must come to a conclusion what we will do next. what should we 2 days to should? what's a good score with you when you're coming from the situation that we have now coming from our estimation of how it could develop? so please mister labrems, the floor of yours was very much, was a make a copy of the colleagues of high reporting to president. we could go, but we prepared an estimation of the proposal. some security guarantees we didn't, alyssa, she said nothing to cover the russia proposed on seem like we should answer my assume get it because she's samber and then junior, when we got their response, had been the response. she looks at our western counterparts are not traded to see our so it's a standalone proposal of regarding the non expansion of nato to be used. so in

these demand but was renounced, they referred to the open door policy, the so called open the rest policy and the freedom of choice for the states who find means of protecting their security. but it was, and they didn't suggest any. i'll turn it in to the school with the immense, neither in the us response, nor nato's response to the category. and the principal also in the ability of security that referred to the united states are trying to avoid is really talking about these. and they just taking out one single element that they are happy with it. freedom of choosing military alliance with the ignore everything else, including the conditions were but it states that no one when choosing alliances, should not as i should be, strengthened the one security at the expense of security potter. in this regard, late january i sent to all our colleagues from western europe, who made

a members you members, but as you are not the lender, because i'm not sure where you stand the letters that we provide and shower and that was adopted. we're seeing the highest level in 1099 and in 2010 and also the legation, the founding act of 997. the critical around the room declaration, adobe that was approved at the highest level, thousands who at the meeting of russia, nato council, the mother. and i think of the matter that you're our 2nd priority concerns that what did you does, i guess this machine is not the period when we start that relations we maintain line 97 and we feel that the proposed and keeping in mind that in those documents from 997, it was stated that the russian need to are no adversary's anymore. and yours was built a huge school. we were going to the old partnership relations including strategic partnership, which suggested to return to the configuration of the stuff need to,

to the configuration to the state of $997.00 at the restore these configuration leads to your argument of ours was refuted, just like the 1st one as well, and at the same time, not in their responses. let's native peoples to us to stop occupation of crimea with ra, truly from georgia data and ukraine, written by just couldn't as for ukraine or they support court and this documentary, but without any willingness to before you can use implementation issue a basic essential document. what you're not sure there and, and respond to our author, demands, including what they need to stop deploying to threatening weapons. the same for the next to the russian worries. actually, americans said that they were ready to start, discuss things in the issue of the short range and medium range missiles,

land based, se problem with mr. new started when the us unilaterally withdrew from the i n f. treaty with the russian ration and ignores of what your initiatives you came up with. 2 years ago when i suggested to replace that treaty with the rhetoric and to deploy with responding replication measures among ideas that the last 2 must give them a week. we can work on the decreasing military music thing for parents, parents, and flexibility that is close to our proposals that we have for each rated on a number of occasions. the recent here isn't going to american singles. the nato members, human. these topics little village in this country are actually taken out of the context regarding the package, and it also guarantees guarantees and as more violent once attempts. sure. with the u. s. the also talk about regulating both q mirror planes lives

and them, but it's coming up with the regulation. how to prevent your company before it was the military vessels of novelty. and you and resorting the context between them. you went to the, for the good, actually establishing a civilian hotline and use with the and she's casting mechanism for them. think the interest military incident, especially overall our impression is that our counterparts are trying to keep it luxury to fragment thrush and proposals to single out in the 2nd during, during marriage. that way though, they are still important to us and you know, to be engaged in the dialect, but they try to avoid talking with our literacy. and that's the key math. given all expansion of need to pre julian jayden wants to not the limit of freedom regarding the configuration of the forces in the nato space and the space around need to tara

tree, which is especially important in the context. i'm not sure of the topic that mr. president talked about this, started a new dialogue condition by our absentee escalating situation around ukraine and summing up your estimation of the responses we got, we can do by saying that shift. so there is some progress, small progress raised and consistency, and the position that bravely i believe in that you are the manifest things. when we suggest that our chat is from the last december, and they shook up the united states, analyze and it made them to start working on many items. mostly, many russian proposals are on the escalating on reducing tension military tension. and regarding a lot of matters in arms control. so in this context we come from assumption that we should continue this word and we reacted to the document that we got from

washington and ross. but all, we only have stuff that reactively to the us proposal is, 1st of all, because in the amount of money we can see in the nato track as actually literally one, not because the nato members lation are going to school. she said she was there next steps. first of all and maybe even exclusively depending on the washington the vision. and hearing them uni, conference on security matters slash these up average people are, isn't from the years. and this was you clearing your hearings up to the unified physician and this unified position is created despite will united states will show going on. and it only proves that we have to talk with washington, and that's what we're doing. we have sent the responds. pretty good by you. response to the american document, we've got it in our document. we emphasize the most important thing. our proposal. the menu is not something like a menu. you can choose items from the 13th,

and that's not an ultimatum. i would say you're based, you absolutely out is think you to meet that most of the situation in the world can only be resolved, but you know, in complex you can, i mean start emphasize that the cranium rises, depends a lot on house relations between the rush the ration domino, city and the stuff in is up and the western countries lead by tonight that statements are developing. that's why you now respond. we emphasize that got to give up, but also got the unity of our position. and we are ready to talk about the matter is that americans now find the remember, including we deal with our suggestions, but we will only do that when we will receive the response to where the key topics our main concerns are sitting in a non expansion of nato,

to be used to configure and considering the configuration of nato presence in europe. first of all, in central and eastern europe, i try to go with what i see with the agreement that russia natal reason is in mind us. and of course our, but he's leaf, anybody is urge not even an urgent issue demand. he's really to explain well, but be something i was why was it in please don't your boot triplets or your papers that were sign at the highest level that no one is going to strengthen the national security at the expense of security. fathers are not just ignored, but a lot of phone work. colleagues, they refuse to explain what they meant when there are leaders that signed that document. yes and why? now, some of those are still nearly regardless of what the men on the are not going to implement their own wash obligations issue, and it's per your instruction, mr. poodle referred to me on the bush and oper we. but when you, sam, listen,

this is not going to washington. i got a phone call from mister lincoln national, secretary of state. he said that he familiarized with our document and he was ready to meet, to talk about it. and we were talking about the american reaction and maybe to add some additional questions. and if you agree, we have planned meetings this week on the 24 in february in geneva. so it will come from the position is approved by you from the stance approved by us flame and that you are protecting in talking with your counterparts. and of course, we are going to promote disposition also in the foreign ministry actually just a minute ago when i talked to my counterpart about this. and my american counterpart assured me that in just a bit of 3 myself, the are not going to let you crane in tomorrow. so there even could be some kind of a moratorium on the shooters and you get, they think that ukraine is not trading with. yes through, so my,

which stands for one. so that's like you're talking about implement just limitation of your a plan 30. i'm going to do. you just think that you need to take some time to print here is ukraine. it's not a mar atoria for run. that's not that much concession, so that's for you. so that was not a meaning how wave that was not without us again, we talked twice with the president the friend. so last night and this morning we talked until 2 am which and he assured me that i could keep these meaning there are some changes, some samples and to american chance. as you know, when i ask, what are these changes? he didn't give me any answer. so i believe that for finance, we need to resend it. you mean you want, are these changes and was calling because your counterpart of the you're going to confirm the use of publicly invaded citizens. sure. no changes regarding the

principal matters about other countries. joining nato about expansion of nato. so there are no changes, did i get the privacy so probably confused by me this year. it was a lot of allocations in the media and western media, all the classified documents that were discussed in the early 19 ninety's malware. a boy western counterparts among them without associate was up at the meeting and they said that should be no intention. so when we talked to each other, they said they had no intention to expand, need to, to enlarge, need feel that he was, you know, and despite that, mr. told berg, secretary general's name is actually repeating the issue. the factors are classified documents from the british archive and seen speaker, and despite all based on your just so stick a bus, lovely. and you will see the group today or today are not going to change to

weekend. the policy of open doors, despite you set yourself a number of said there is no such policy. there is just an opportunity, please. if you're in the treaty and they sign up all the need to members degree, they can all, for some country, any country to join the alliance on to condition that she could correspond to the membership you are not the but. busy it is up conditions you strengthen the secure and he knows that it's north atlantic treaty him. so the 2nd criteria is ignored, that we know that we're ready to ask for and thing you'll ideas our americans and their allies can share with us. so we count from the assumption that, like you said, to president micron, 1st we need to understand what americans actually mean they have in mind. and since our french counterparts are still when they, when you tell us that be how, what your understanding of washington can talk about why as a plan you and today what it is like you agreed with president microns yesterday.

so i'm going to have a phone conversation with frame for the minister to those go and when we agree them out there time of this phone conversation, i asked the french foreign ministry with them to make sure that the recession store on my counterpart in the woodson clarify was a got those nonetheless, white americans are going to discuss the way that it should lead. put us loose somehow. thank you very much. you can take care. now we will give the floor to mister co pursue. i asked him and there was no place to give us an overview of what was happening near ensuring means bottom drank of the policy of the settlement. and then i would like to ask members of the security to talk and starting from the with this is real situation that we have now in the

people's republic of don, this able to dominate, was determined to route one. so the of, to details of the thing extremely complex talks to tricky programs in if you could be a little louder fellow. so school and today the use of ukraine, north western allies, dont need john pouch under any conditions. they want to freeze this conflict, british and to blame. russia was lovely and politically. and for the 1st of all, you are successful about this conflict that was believed that russia is responsible for this conflict as you, it is until done buffy russia for the economic consequences for time, beth and he'll know how much it cost us to provide a terran aid,

so these territories and her just recently figures it in europe, the program i was with the program using a gun has some issues you enter college, the literally with hedge their fuel early. she's speaking in the school nearing, observe, which wouldn't fix it. oh, so it was always accomplished. you are going to rise. until today we have a total for turner. how are we doing the deal times or more, or what places loo walker's vegetables in term we are working to. so the clerk showed her that she didn't. so shameless to done was new growing up with on pass is obviously isn't needed to ukraine or to this west. they want to freeze this conflict, cutting it small yet,

and asked us about her what conditions yet was a way that they have to return. what on bus, on the ukraine tell her, control the top, how to answer to lisa done versa. to see if there's, there's no new so on talk about the reason you know, you go to, i mean, you know, you just tell us about negotiations about domestic current. so what state of affairs in regard to the business process hasn't gone anywhere where it was influence. if the deal, lou, she was using this service, it was a dialog on the features she should have taught her right after heavy work was more money from the front lines and

it's happened on the 8th of march 2015. and by the end of the 2015, the amendment should've been introduced. the constitution was stubs and special legislation in this of the elections. and then the end of the conflict with the provide the full control of to ukraine over this territory. energy into this, but anyway, i don't need to, i wish i wish you on evidence that you can see the turns which districts also districts of ukraine without special places and the people that believe that there is

no reason to shift from special status, which they turn into some soaps and they don't want to switch to the language. shaw have their own police enforcement. and this may cause other other churches for such rights as well because of the real demand for such rights and other regions. ukrainian not means not only from the confidence about his they will what's just never agreed to misc agreements. those a announce that supports agreements to the public. conceit not unless you have to which you didn't know. so yesterday i talked

like f one again my french counterpart and he claims that current leadership, ukraine is ready to implement the mans pickers. and more than that, you know, they are coming up with some new fresh ideas of how they can be implemented in your rubric. including elections, you're seeing the same as spine myron formula. the current president of the terminals. i wish i knew what she gets over here says they telling lies about agreements over all the documents that you sent and the normal format. and there is something that they say that this really yaki thing, that was another thing that up until september, last year we just never talk about russia thing,

but it doesn't know when you fight of this conflict. all right, let the side let some of conditions for us and they cannot samsung from, from anything about them. so this is going to provide some novel commitments for us. i believe the normative for much when they've done countries find this provisions. and we'll have a lot of calls on miss douglas. count of family it. what name do you with them? but why does that? and that was done, but they're not doing 100 minutes and a quarter. they don't know what rushes commitment

only to bustle receipts and i'm sure could you please please thing out about the item? 911 and 12 because it has very sad when you move decisions. the isley made in a consultation and dialogue which is free publics. she says she does, so the thing that despite what's written when she even a thing that this isn't a requirement for time, i'd love to be more ukraine and also to talk to let peace in the yellow if possible. so the things that are there about the dialect about control patient, they think it doesn't mean to be direct dial. yes, for the micron,

told you that we need to keep this dialect on there that i will see, observe ation. and the trilateral content group. and that's a made up problem because these dialect is only happening within the trilateral content group and that is moderated and facilitated by always c. so it's a made up problem. there is no problem like that. all the suggestions made light regarding that on that side made through the trilateral group and we are trying to discuss it with they always see but ukrainian representatives, while the dauntless representative are saying something beat and turn their hands away, they don't listen. and when you're asked to respond, they sleep roch's asking something we will respond. and when rushes asking when will you amend the constitution? is one of the good? because i mean, about 2 years ago and berlin, when asked that, when are you going to amend the constitution?

in accordance with the means occurring the very next day in ukraine, they started that he's theory. the roches, interfering with internal affairs of ukraine are making ultimatums about amending the constitution of ukraine, which is sovereign right of ukraine, and no one has any right to interfere with that. so, but did i get that right? that was key of authority. i don't want to hatch to engage in direct. i mean, like with the republics, they say they want to do it by dialogue with russia. and as soon as russia offered certainty stamps to samples that were within the framework of them in the course of bait starts saying that rush isn't tearing with internal affairs of ukraine. that's absolutely how it is. and they want this, they try to luggage may crush rehab was, let's say you want us to suggest something regarding the constitution, then the blame us up or hearing with their 3rd. but you might me, if you think you and what about interpreting the means, the current in such

a way that they are not really not recognize, republics should come up with initiatives. but the other way around keep authority is off today. they should come up with certain suggestions on how many agreements should be implemented. that was the last suggestion allows proposal . i know they didn't february 10th, and berlin. so it was some of the crazy thing from legal point of view, suggestion about the initiate the of commanding ukrainian law. so it's your only come to finish initiative should only come from a crane but loving ok. so there is initiative, but just to show this is not going to lease a crazy idea of ukraine. what you discussed yesterday, you microns, even the danverse is coming out with some alternatives. will they consider these? we do not know and they look away obviously. so there are tactics of rates,

indeed they are whooping it's. it's a clumsy, ridiculous tactics, but they are doing battles every time you're coming up with some new tricks, salary, time. and it all comes down to the fact that plenty and suggestions about amending their constitution about their along. no one can discuss that, because that's the silver and ride of ukraine. you bratia dots that, that, that's interference. the don bass does that, then these are separate ts who also don't have this right and can't extra sign this, right? so unexpectedly, these stance was supported by friends yesterday you were pledging and that he tried in the midst agreements. he said that all these changes, including law school and the amendments of the constitution, it must be agreed. where are the p r and l p r. 3 are being ignored. they are being ignored. they come up with all kinds of freaks. and these sort of freaks these

schemes are really stupid from legal point of view. let's let us just throw something to the trilateral, the contact group. we are not going to talk to anyone. we are not going to listen to. don bassett brush is going to suggest some think we'll see how we react to that . and most likely the reaction would be like i did dr. and then always see who said that within the framework with the black box of the level, the county group, so allegedly, it was approved there when they should, but that's a made up procedure that leads to nowhere. so. okay, then my final question to you, could you please tell me and, or colleagues, q one in your opinion, keep authorities are going to implement the means could agreements or not so which if the situation doesn't change, they want to show they will never implemented once again, it is out there as a bed. they do not want to neither within the framework of the agreements or not.

they don't want to bring don best back to ukraine and metropolitan. or maybe i could say that later, i wanted to take that question about if we should sit in this, what we should do with don bass. how should we talk with the west? because that's a very serious matter. can be alex don bass or not lewis. if i go on to the topic of your statement, let's limit ourselves to that and ask for you to go to open up the negotiations within the framework of the mask agreements and valid your estimates of what it is to your future. the way when it says that there is no future loan of this kind of work at the same time to go around within the framework agreement. so there is no future holds. no, he's continued talking about it. now i would like to ask it just with is

a personal record of the federal security service leverage to report to confound the situation, which is just the good news that is that we have at the border put potentially giving securely to your malicious donna and about refugees who are crossing into the order now and about the situation of the border in general, is that me what you would use when we read them on mr. poodle, we can see how the situation is getting anywhere else can. i don't know who's in those 2 republics, john s republican livings lugens, the people's republic telling has intensified which is a threat to the lives of the civilians. so.