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seeing that it all starts up again. i will be killed and that'll be that madame brandy. green annabella, thought exams. ukraine wasn't ready for war in now. it's ready because it's received weapons from here and we're used them here. and that is the takeaway here that people feared that this could be even worse than last time, especially considering the quantity of weapons that the, that the, the hundreds of tons of weapons that have been delivered to ukraine under, to have already made their way to the front lines when our hearing that a guided missiles, presumably some of those that have been delivered by nato already being used than this. they slaves us escalation, how long this will go on before. com is restored. if it is restored, though, at this point, is anyone's guess for now, people here are still having to contend, as i mentioned with this increase increase in,
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in shelling in godfather. we're now hearing as well as in this level of violence. as, as you say that the level of and has, it has only increased and all of us right now are on stand by for the russian president to make it a televised speech to make his announcement. whereas we understand he will be announcing a decision on the recognition of don bass with an hours on the ticket on our screen right now, our food and apparently told the french and german account deposit. he will soon be announcing recognition of the autonomy of the states. but i guess be of thanks very much for that crossing live now over to do a donald quarter who is a temporary facility in southern russia for that for the don bass evacuees. what's it like that right now? how, how are people getting along donald? that's right, very well over the past several days like we've been talking about thousands and thousands of evacuated from the don boss region, have been relocating into russia. and after this evacuation was declared in the
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dunbar region and the self proclaimed people's republics. have been yet, can the guns, a state of emergency was actually declared in the russian region of raw stalls. the government began opening up facilities for temporary housing. of these evacuation over a 100 have already been established that can house thousands and thousands of people until they are moved to other russian regions for more long term. stay right now, we're actually at a hotel. we're in the hotel. we've been staying. i'm like you said, it actually has been turned also into a temporary housing facility because the governor actually appealed to hotel owners to help out in this housing effort. earlier i spoke to some of the staff here. they said that this hotel is that maximum capacity. that's 245 people already saying here who are evacuated from the don bus region behind me. you could see it's quite empty right now because it's only about, it's actually about 10 pm in the evening, and most people are in their rooms. but i want to give you just a little bit of
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a tour around the lobby, explaining pretty quickly what these vacuum you have to go through once they get here. they come here, they check in so that they can receive a room number and make sure that they can receive free meals during their stay here . also this area is where the medical staff that are attached to this temporary facility, usually work at what they basically do in the, on the whole, is test people for coven, as they come in here, they have 15 minute express test, not p, c r test. they take too long, but we spoke to those medical staff earlier. they said that they haven't had one positive case of cove it and we've been to many temporary facilities around the region. they've also said that on the whole very covey cases have been actually very low. now over here, as you can see behind me, this area is usually filled with staff that are registering people from the don boss region with done yet, passports, lugens passports,
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so that they can be registered as living here for the moment and even apply for the stipends that the russian government has promised these evacuation of $10000.00 roubles or $130.00. so that takes place there. but basically this is where people this, this place is basically filled at certain times of the day, usually around the daytime. when there's the highest volume of buses coming here and dropping off people, and this place is absolutely full. i mean we've been to a number of different temporary housing facilities as well. where people basically are coming from dunbar with little more than the shirts on their backs, trying to flee this conflict and not knowing what's going to come tomorrow. actually earlier. we also visited a train station where a lot of factories have been going there to take trains to different russian regions for a longer term stay as well. and we also spoke actually to one family that agreed to
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shelter and a family of evacuation. this is something that a lot of individual russian citizens, especially in the roster region, are taking upon themselves to help out to help these people who are fleeing ward. they're taking, evacuated into their own homes, giving them food and living with them until they find out when the situation is going to be better. and these people can go home. but unfortunately, we don't, we have no idea when that's going to be donald quarter. and course senior correspondent give as well both of you. thank you that's, that's learn more across lives out to jonathan steele, a journalist in international affairs commentator here on the program this evening . very good evening to you. so thanks for joining us during a break and use coverage here on see if it a big deal as we stand by now for, for the televised speech when the russian president, apparently he is going to recognise the autonomy of these republics, these breakers, republics, and asian ukraine, is this a big deal, sir? and how does this affect the whole ukraine equation?
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it is an extremely big deal very big. indeed. it really means to minsk records which was signed in 2015 again because they provided for integration. eventually of these republics back into ukraine, new after they've been given full autonomy, language tracks and so on. so this is not tearing optimist records to very high risk strategy by president putin because it to derby us into national legality. and to president putin may suffer a good deal of reputational damage in the international public opinion arena, because he's acting very impetuously one might say, in taking this step without previous discussion or any warning of it with this one . with this, sir, radically take war off the table. well, it depends what the reaction of dual credit government is if they were to try and preempt this decision by military and talking don't bass and guns can tried to win
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back the territory. that would be a war because obviously the russian troops would come in and defend the territory. in large numbers, the troops would come in and said, we will be facing a major war in the eastern part of ukraine. so that very, very much depends on the credit and government reaction where they had to take it to and accepted. it's not last what we're going to try and bring it back military. let's talk about that of the men's agreement. it's a set of agreements they've been trying to implement alpha 7 or 8 years proven, keeps complaining. the key of is not implementing part of the agreement, specifically section number 11, but, but there are many ukrainians. those. stephanie, they're on the doom with say they are supporting the minutes agreements. it's difficult to get a clear picture here. what about the ukranian side of this? what about key evs position here with boot and potentially recognizing autonomy? where does key stand? okay, are you ready to blame for the lack of implementation of the ministry chords? that's why this decision to recognize logan's give you happens in
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a few minutes time will be a game changer because the blame will now be put much more on russia, non ukraine, until now. m p 's, discussing possible sanctions against russia. or, of course, you've seen the capitol hill in washington. they've been discussing this now for quite some time that the mother of all sanctions will be, levied across across the bow of russia. anyone talking about key of potentially sanctioning its own people in eastern ukraine, cutting of social benefits. he's saying it's actually what is an economic blockade for these people in the middle of winter? why is no one talking about that? well, there hasn't been very much reporting of that to tome, and it is a pity that there's more major coverage and this things, you know, when it come out of the blue that the sea, which has been monitoring has it had teams or daily reports. they haven't been reporting on major fighting going on in the last few days. they've said that has been increasing shutting but not the unprecedented amount. they've been periodic
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periods before in the last 8 years. 20157 years have been intensification of shutting down. and he hasn't been reporting on such massive violations of human rights as badly right now. seeing, according to russian reports, i was just gonna say, i do beg your pardon. so you're just going to stand by mister steele, jonathan steele, foreign affairs and international affairs comments ada. just stand by for us, if you will. i want to keep talking to you in just a moment here. so i kind of, we are on stand by here at r t and national. we're going to go straight now to the russian president who is standing by with his televised address depletion of a range of this dilemma. why it is so important for us for russia. so of course my address is also aimed at our fellow ladies in ukraine, will have to have a substantive and detailed conversation because the matter is very serious. but
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luckily they just keep situation in. don't bass is becoming critical. sure, graham, and today i'm look at the rest of you directly from not only to talk about what's happening, but also to inform you about the decisions we're making about possible steps in this regard to. once again, i would like to record that ukraine is not just a neighbor, neighboring country to us. it isn't inherent part of our own history culture, spiritual space and the way it should be. they are our comrades. it relative. not only colleagues, friends, but also who did give them the, our family and people we have blood and family ties with them as equally us up since engine times. people from ancient southwestern russian lands recalled themselves were calling themselves in the russians and orthodox due to that. what happening until 17th century, when part of this territories rejoined the russian,
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i'm going to fire the russian state and oper it, that it seems that we know all about basically that we are talking about me. system never knew my back that everyone knows. but at the same time preschool, we need to have understanding what is happening today to explain models and aims. the trash has what we need to say couple of words about the history of this matter is that the national that was supposed to be. and i would like to start by saying that the modern ukraine is completely, was completely created by russia. but she used to be more exact by bolshevik wall, surely a communist russia base rose has started almost immediately offer the 917 revolution lee and, and planning and his mark google support or some way he did it that way. we talked about russia, they were needing some parts of the historical territories of russia mill. you want
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me to read them and millions of people who live there, who obviously no one asked anything. my community was really good interest in the way i mean than before. the great but reading war and not free darling with him, added to the ussr in when he handed over to crane some land that belong to poland and hungary and as a compensation. if only $1.00 gave you an answer. john glanced poland and a 960 is crucial, decided to take crimea away from russia and also gave it to ukraine. that's how the territory of the soviet grain was for the future. but now i would like to draw your attention to the initial stages of the establishment of the ussr. i think it's most important sporadic because we have to start from far. so i would like to remind you that offer the act hilbert revolution of $917.00 and civil war. if that
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follow at all, should be started building and you state your name in the will and they had some differences among them stolen. who in 1922 and i think it was at the same time secretary general of the communist party. and people, comments are on the matter itself. and the city is decided to build the country on the principles of denominating, admit dazel giving to the republics to the future administrative units wide authority when they were supposed to join the state, lynn, and criticize this plan. and he suggested to make concessions to the nationalist, the way he called them back. then you can advocates of independence. but it wasn't basically that was idea about grading a consideration and give the right to every nation for self determination. that was the basis of the soviets converse, in 1022,
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it was enshrined in the declaration on these tablets, many of the soviet union, and then upper depth of land. that was also in shrine to the constitution of the usa sar. if 1924 hours we think and right away here, we have a lot of questions and write us a lot of questions and 1st of them and the main question is jet blue, we why go to the sky and making all kinds of concessions to the national lease at the outskirts of the former employer of premier when they need to give to the administrative units that work has released for him. the huge opinion is worth mentioning territories. often times that had nothing to do with them. and they were giving this terrorists with the population up to historic russia. and these administrative units were given status and chief of the state entities. and once again, these blacks a question deal with why they have to do so generous gifts for remove even the most
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black nationalist couldn't dream of. and at the same time give the republic a right to withdraw from the new state without any preconditions. at 1st glance, it doesn't seem clear, it seems like madness, but only at 1st glance, because there is no explanation up or the revolution remained. goldbaldo civics had was to keep power to stay in power at any codes were new and nephew are they used to live? they went to any length to sign of humiliating your mind. you say get conditions of the brass reason why truce and when the kaiser is germany, we're in the diary we cannot make situation. and the outcome of that world war one was already almost decided you looks. and by giving any concessions to the nationalists inside the country is that if you break from the point of view of the historic nation, you approximate people learning the principles of building the state. if you're
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mistaken, that was much, much worse than your mistake. well, could you use hopper the collapse of the soviet union in 1991? this has become absolutely obvious that we get broken corps. what happened in the past with us cannot be changing, but at least we have to talk about it in honest indirect way. the police just go without any political agenda, giving any political color to it. but i can only add to ideas of the current related call. the reality is no matter how beneficial they might see him currently under no circumstances can not and should not be the focus of the basis of the you going to a building because i'm not blaming anyone accusing anyone of anything, the situation and the country back then offer the civil war in the civil war was incredibly difficult, was critical of it. and now i only can say that that's how it happened. it is that
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it's just the fact that in fact, that's a historical fact because the political was legal finance and as a result of bolsheviks policy, the subject ukraine was created. and my way android, we have a reason to say now that ukraine created by lobby. merlin, and he is, it's greater an architect and it's truly in the confirmed by the documents from the archives you up with them. but regard also, including the decrease lane is decreased regarding don, that was added to ukraine and now grateful in the sentence. demolishing all the statues, all the monuments to learning, they call it the communities ation. that when you that's it. you want that communication while we are quite happy with that much to the way it's best and that we with them. but we don't stop happening because we are ready to show you why that
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would mean actual communication for ukraine. i should because sort of through the, coming back to the history on the matter that i would like to remind you that back 922. it will and the territory of the former russian empire, the soviet union, was established by the reality show that you put it on the clipping series and ruling these territory using the principles of consideration which are impossible because it had nothing to do neither with the reality is nor with the historical tradition and rep terror and switch to this talents, human purchase. and the monopoly of the communist party nation leads asian land economy. and all that, in reality, for miles, was turned to a formality, nothing more because of the principles that were declared, but didn't actually work in the very end. in reality, the soviet republics had no sovereign rights,
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non practical and practice through why that was created. strictly sandra lines, we need carrion in his character, fell in to see that logic on the central lighting and stellan implemented not lennon's ideas, but his own ideas of how the state should be built. that we should have need to remember. but changes to the founding acts to the constitution. he didn't make any changes in this regard. finance principles about building the soviet union were not reconsider him because it was technically renewable and your credit had seemed there was no need in theater on the tele cameron regime retention regime. everything worked well and it looked nice from the outside. it looked more than democratic even, but still, it's a shame is possible for them. and yeah, it's a shame got data from the formal notations and or a state was built on. they didn't clear out this. all it is you topic brought about
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by the revolution. but destructive fantasies should cover the just the bible and in the future. how often happened. no one thought about it later on, but you really are the leaders of the communist party seem to be confident that they manage to build a strong governing. please tell me that using this policy, they managed to finally resolve the national ratio buddy, replacing the notions, manipulating the public nodes, but not a good coast yearly and then faction of nationally as not disappeared up there. and that when you, when you get home from that was undermining that aid with this infection of national and but just waiting for it's our work to come because once again and republic had the right to withdraw from the us. the sorry, left in the middle of 98 is against the background of raising a blunder week. i'm going to get problems. i'm right. it's of the plant economy nationally. the issue chain, you know, the fails. it was cost not some,
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not buy some ideas of the soviet peoples, but by growing appetizer of the current leaders of america was escalated us to sar leadership instead of analyzing situation and making via thoughtful decisions in the economy and in the political in the governing problem. they were only talking about restoring lands, principles, about national self determination, more than that would be somewhere inside the communist party. if there was a struggle for power in each side. just wanting to expand its support and guarded grad to encourage ladies with them nationally as they were trying to play with it. but they were promising anything built into this national ways and bullish and when they talked about the democracy in bright future, based either on the market economy or planned economy. but when,
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in reality people were getting worse and worse and you got stronger. no one from the authority was thinking about tragic consequences. milwaukee, partially for 30 only. and then they went down. well, that's on the path of satisfying them. visions of nationalists delete that race inside the park up with me because the communist party doesn't have the tools anymore, which is good on the general. so they couldn't keep the power and they couldn't use . i still is a dictatorship or she her just and even the governing crawl of the parties in that she's pretty much when you go that was diluted, like more with like the folk in the morning with in front of their eyes. and in september 1989 at the plenary session of the company party. and that was really made a faithful decision, the national policy of barking under current conditions in the ship. so that particular the started the simulation some it had up. so obviously probably have
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all the rights of civilian issue again to exercise or the status of the sobering republics. and the highest governing body is pretty estimated. can stop any israel, any decrease, and any loss of the soviet government in their territories. and finally, the average soviet republic need for you. i thought it has its citizenship and has given to all little citizens, but it wasn't it up is what will be the outcome of such me as decreases. but now it does not the time and the place to talk about the constitutional rights or give definition of what citizenship but still it back to question. why was in those difficult conditions for them, they needed to make the situation even last table. he bought the bag, still a fact. you will see the problem 2 years before the shop,
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you tune and collapse. it was doomed, or you call it, you know, from now radicals in nation list including and 1st of all brain we, they take the married off, winning independence. but we can see that that's not the truth steady. just what happened to our country. what was caused by the mistakes done by the leadership of the communist party made a different stages and the different types in times in their national if that phenomenal publicly, the collapse of historical russia, named beatrice are, was brought about by family with new mom. yes. can you me grab your hand despite all these, even the fight stealing from the people? are people agreed to the new realities? is that when you were brought about by the collapse of the uses? are they recognized you said new republic not only recognize back then? russia was in dire situation, but it tried to help its partner from the yeah,
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i asked including ukrainian partners because starting from the moment of laming independent, they started making requests for material support. but our country was getting this support with respect to the sovereign frame, comes forwarding to the estimates of the experts of the machine that can be proved just by looking at the prices of our energy carriers by our loans. really about trade preferences that russia was getting ukraine, the total profit or the ukranian budget since $990.00 want to 2013. but it was about $250000000000.00, but that's not all of it. by the end of the 991, the data of the ussr, let me in from the father estate and international fund was about 100. and initially it was just a thought that step would be paid out by all the republics of the u. s. massaro,
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in proportionate turns, in a proportion with their economic potential by russia to the burden of paying out the entire soviet dash and paid it out. eventually, surely the process and we completed this process in 2017 and we need to make this very waste your chest. you can sort of yours and other you said you saw the republic had to renounce from this acid and such agreement was signed in the late 1994 with ukraine, but keel didn't gratify agreement. and later they refused. you implemented philip? it was, they were talking about golden reserves and all kinds of facets of the former soviet union abroad, and still europe. despite the known problems, russia has always called parade, and i'm with ukraine in an open, an honest manner with respect to we've seen strategist,
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our ties in all kinds of areas. we're developing some got so when you are in 2011, the trade or nobody was more than $50000000000.00 industry. and please allow me to mention that the tree turnover will be craned with all the usual countries in 20. 19, before the pandemic was smaller than that. and at the same time, it was not as well that the cranium authorities preferred to act in such a way that you have all the rights and preferences in the relations with russia, but to carry no obligation type the same time assuming no obligations. so it wasn't really partnership or they were just trying to get more from russia, and some times it was a group for me and 3 months leave it in the for example, remember the mailing in the, the gas transit stealing gas, even with ellison, i would like to remind you that we were trying to use dialect with russia as a to, to like mail with the west. the sad that the will would get closer to russia,
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trying to win preferences. and they were saying that we have them, if not rational providence, in greenville, and from the very 1st started doing 30 statehood by renouncing everything that was bringing us together. they were trying to twist the historical memory of the generations of people who lived in ukraine comes as no surprise that the ukrainian society faced with that crow for them on the radical nationalism. your methodist church became rich avec, and national e, y. and the 3rd year now and naps and, and so we're joining ganges in eastern ukraine. kristen, the territorial claims against russia. we're always even more often reform. and then our forces were also using our special services, particularly to raise their people and ukraine and to move them into power
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into the government. and ukraine has never had stable traditions of their own state who were starting from 991 because of the mechanical copying on afford models and had nothing to do with their history or with the crane. in reality is the way to go and fade institutions change in columbia soap to benefit the clans with their own interest that had nothing to do with the interests of the people. if you train back of the way and the whole idea of the so called pro western civilizational choice of the cranium democratic while we're wise, and it's still not in creating better conditions for the good of the people are the bad rough. and you can come by to serve no political adversary's russia to save billions of dollars they've told from the ukrainians and hidden by all the cards in the on the accounts in western banks. some financial groups is
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