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republics, quote, a special status and not just like, oh yes, i give you a specialty. has to be in tried in the constitution that made me go 70 is on. that obviously hasn't happened. and what's more, president lansky has foreign minister to have flatly said, i'm not going to do it. it's not just that i'm not going to, so i don't even have a dog. i'm not gonna engage in and kind of discussion with these people. i'm some say it because the government is currently under pressure from fall, right? national, who in increasingly in recent years, doing what many would say is undue influence on policy shaping presidents. lensky said, i do worry for instability and i worry riots if i go forward at this point 11 of the, of the agreement, so clear by lation of the c spot. but what it actually means in practice, it, i would suppose, and this is something that was indicated by the security council, but it would mean probably that more people would apply for washing citizenship. we've already got around $700000.00 russian citizens in that area. we had the over a 1000000 have already applied for russian possible,
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but also it gives you an idea of kind of the ethnic makeup i'm a sense of allegiance is that i would also think that probably financial support will be offered by moscow hops great to trade cooperation, perhaps also russia supplying necessities, such as water and gas which are currently cut off. i do want to point out that he, despite clearly that these are his citizens, had stopped paying that pension. he stopped paying them social benefits and such we imposed and he cannot make blockade. so they were in a difficult situation that they need more dire situation now. and that was exactly what president putin. she said it was one thing she said, if you're not counseling, we all had to talk about the state of people to talk about people who have been living in basements, who are being shelled. we are here to talk about whether we think that those people have a right to live in peace. so see that it was up of them. i mean, there were growing revelations by wisdom, me to her secret documents negotiated at the end of the previous century by western
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colleagues with one another, as well as with russia. and these documents clearly show no intention by the west to expand nato. yet natal fixture generally installed in book continues to simply deny obvious facts declassified by british archives and released by the beagle news magazine. they are still vehemently opposed to loosening the open door policy despite many public denials of the existence of such a policy. well, before i can say this is what we're going to talk about a bit later. what we heard from president barbara is i think there's going to be a total lack of recognition from the west that they have a part to play. and what is courtney unraveling in ukraine? first and foremost, i have no doubt that this will be picked up by western media as a full flags or as russia implementing foss stage of invasion. we've already heard from the u. s. for sensitive to the o. s. e that we can i, station church and cooperation in europe. he says that be considered a violation of ukrainian sovereignty. so i would keep, it's nothing to do with the,
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for public and train the russian federation. it is just a recognition of independence with bosco is that now are you can read an article from the b, b, c. the headline is 5 reasons why putin might not invade. so yesterday they were cutting off. it's already a done deal and patients where given the orders and now he's got 5 reasons not to invade, not just one. john chancellor already recognized or indicated that any recognition of the republics would be tantamount to russia putting out of the agreement, of course, conveniently forgetting. but he has failed to press. he had to abide by the agreement itself. one option show that we're going to head to continuation about rhetoric regarding specifically what the foreign secretary says that let's not forget that those ukrainian forces were current shuttling innocent on on civilians in dumbass, who as we heard not us women who said i, i welcome this because it finding means that i can return home and it will be peaceful. they are armed with nato weapon, with hundreds of millions,
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was of weapons that had been sent by the u. s. and it's nato allies, heavy duty stuff, like charlatans, even and nato's insistence to continue welcoming members to the blog kind of life are not only obviously a total disregard for russia security concerns, but also a direct violation of the promise that was made back in the ninety's you know about saying we will not inch 11, we will not go one and eastward of the with alba and germany, but unfortunately, that is not what we're seeing, even though i'm not sure what lever up was pointing to. he said they've completely living in a parcel and, and july. well, in terms of penalties, putin a previous he said it doesn't matter what we do. we're going to be functioned anyway. but we know whether that's going to be north stream to the gas pipeline. this obviously cause to worry, we talk about this the whole time, whether it's going to be about cutting brush off from swift, all these on the table. but what's very soon, what we did here at the council was for my prime minister museum of saying,
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you know what? we're ready. we knew that this was going to come, no matter what we do. we have been slowly preparing ourselves, getting us ready. you know, bring it on the situation that we have now is in a way more complicated, but also maybe simpler. i'd like to explain the issue 8 is more complicated because the scale of potential conflict can be compared to what we face in 2008. and that's a fact keeping in mind the estimation be given to us by defense ministers just now on the other hand, it's easier for us because big then we need to know that potential reaction here. we're all kinds of talks. i toggle some bits repute and also talk to president bush . but now we know we know what is going to happen and we know linear with all the possible problems. you must build difficulties number of them all the produced,
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your sanction if he is that we can hear now broadcast from the average domestic bustle appliance, we know that they're all be got a lot of pressure, but at the same time we know how do we stand this pressure and suddenly the cabinet is white in the sense that it has built a somewhat fortress economy by kind of winning itself of the dollar by doing deals . for example, in euro's by building off its gold resolves walls than a foreign currency and dollar. so yes, it is up to you, right, that it's kind of built she'll but will protect it. but i think for me, the main message that came out of thought was and i think you'll probably agree essentially what those security council members was saying is we know. a that we're going to be hit by penalties that's already kind of, you know, done thing. but we think that we're willing to pay the price because of the people on the ground. and because we think that they have a right to live in peace and they are not a bargaining chip as kids is using them, they are people who dissolves to have peaceful skies. or,
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i mean the situation on the grounds. there's absolutely no other word for it. it is deteriorated so rapidly. i don't think anyone quite expected to speak to somebody who has been talking about his tony at the moment. and the figure that the defense secretary came out with. he said, we've got around 50000 troops on the ukrainian side of the concert line as 100 tanks. what heavy duty stuff. like i said, a lot of foreign alms shipped over by the us, the power defensively. but as you just said, and as the see daily reports come in, that kidding. not being used defensively because we've even got reports of about relaxing even in the latin federation, which is why the russian federation was contact line. you know, it's not 1000 plus the, this is all of course, a direct violation of them. it's vertical, something that not, it's just not talked about in mainstream media. another thing that ca shy group, the defense, sad to said what's even more consigning is that a lot of fascinating how to solve, right? national,
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who have proved to be very unruly and very difficult to actually control. and one of the thing that i think i want to listen to what you said about the specifically he said the most terrifying thing that has possibly come out of the last few days is president philips get the munich security conference saying that he will renee, potentially on the budapest memorandum and re arm ukraine with nuclear weapons. i would also like to draw the attention of the members of the security council to the statements made by mister landscape to start to see that they would do so. and would like to return was the status of the nuclear country. and i want to say nuclear power, but countries i don't get that is very entrance seen says go say it was a 1st because when i saw them there was more wildly we're part of the soviet union . and you told me i was in when i have the necessary infrastructure to build such weapons, not only weapons, but carriers force and your weapons in the courts. and i took it to your my name
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from the welcome. so are rolling coverage of let me to teens decision to recognize the independence of the guns can yes, are public. my name is peter scott taken over from raleigh to say, and it's great to have you with those people in don boss are celebrating the recognition of the sovereignty of their republics by russia. you can see them setting off fireworks and waving russian flags we heard from local residents who gave us their reaction for this event. you know, what was what we are going to wondering like what, what you ought to order or to know what it was last month
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i. 2 watch and with home that i see as, as you wish to read, you're not dealing with, you know, you know, the story not is 9 years. meanwhile, tens of thousands of don bus residents have been fleeing the region as the crisis. escalades are correspondent on cortez. that's one of the many temporary housing facilities sets up to accommodate the evacuees. yes. evaluation, where actually assault regional government declare a state of emergency and set up around over now a 100 different temporary housing complexes around the region to make sure that these people coming in will have free food and they'll be able to have a warm place to stay while they make their way on 2 different actually other regions that are prepared to hold them for more longer term. we actually spoke with one family today, actually took
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a family back to their home themselves, and they're making sure that they're going to be able to wake this all out in their very own home. and another thing that the governor overall sold actually said at the beginning, he appealed to hotels in the region to help out with this housing effort. and like you said, i am at one of those facilities right now. this is the hotel that we've been staying in here as we've been working throughout the region. and this is a lobby where the vacuum coming in to check in and everything right now it's, it's a bit empty, but very different times. this place is literally to the britain, so i want to show you what he goes on here, wants to make it to this hotel date register here. the, the check in desk, but they also have several other things to do with
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the agency records. calvin express tests, people get the results in 15 minutes. all tests we have done are negative. there are no positive tests so far. and we have done around $100.00 tests today. with the story. she just stared, are the no positive for a temporary housing facility and also send a showing right here. you can see these people working computers. this is the area where the people from then move on, officially registered with people who publish. and they're also we heard from several people with applied for the
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10000 years, almost to every person here from the don loss, with about $130.00. so this is a lobby. there are a lot of other places throughout with to tell us also places like childrens former children, a summer camp, a school actually earlier with people need me on their way to other regions. so let's take a look at what i was able to cover earlier. well, for more on this developing story, we cross live now to daniela's a u. s. political analyst and journalist. daniel, welcome to the program. i want to the possible global response that you think
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awaits russia for this recognition of those republics. well, the in the us there will be a high fury the by ministration will see this is a major step towards war. it's already imposed sanctions on the the republics themselves. but i'm sure more more will follow. this raises the temperature tremendously. i think we'll see out equal outbursts of, of outrage from, from boris johnson and britain. i think the, the back crawl and shelf and france and germany are very try trying to very carefully consider what their next move is. obviously, the north stream to gas pipeline is on the line, so we'll see what happens to that in the next few days. now preaching has installed
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the establishment of diplomatic relations. now with the d n on the l n r, do you expect any other countries to follow suits or do you think it remained very much a sort of a nice relationship between the 2 countries. between whether the follow the us example applying sanctions to the d n. r. and alan are sorry, the pitching i establishment of different relations with the d and on the eleanor and recognizing that independence do x rays any of the states to follow suit. probably none of the none of the west european powers. now no, no u. s. allies, will some russian allies i very well might. i don't know why we're, i don't know what the response from china has been. of china extends recognition. that'll be really interesting step. there's syria also, which i think would very, very likely do what it has to do to remain and, and putins good graces. so we'll say, but certainly i would not expect any kind of action by the west europeans. now it's
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looking like some form of sanctions. will be inevitable, judging from what many western leaders have already said, is yet to be a stablish, what those sanctions will be. but the, as you said, the no stream to gas line could be on the line. pretty speculates a wat takes what's of level of seriousness. do you think these functions could possibly be against russia given what? well, i think that i think that what this act does, this act raises the temperature tremendously. and i think that that the, it will be a few days before the full effects are spelt in the, in the us and in london, berlin, paris, etc. but i expect you will see a mounting calls. busy for, for further sanctions, and as to whether the u. s. imposes the, the will, you know, the full panoply of sanctions up to and including a, a swift cut off. that's not quite clear yet,
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but the situation is very fluid. i would argue we have no idea what's gonna happen in the ground. we have no idea how the ukrainian forces will respond with the respond militarily or not. so i, things are really, really add an extreme and bite it has already signed a decree aimed bonding investment from the us and funding for these, these 2 republics to be on the ellen are. what do you make of his response so far? i think it's just a start. i mean i'm, i'm sure they're way more calm. i'm sure that, that bide, and we'll try to will ratchet up the penalties. i mean, biden, remember biden's, a politician in deep trouble the, you know, his, his legislative program. busy is on the rocks, his popularity is plummeting. the pole from afghanistan was
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deeply traumatic from a u. s. point of view. and so he is desperate to, to reestablish america's imperial standing. so therefore, i see every more severe measures coming coming out of the us. well, you could argue that boris johnson is also in a similar situation. he's currently facing criticism domestically for the, the so called party gate scandal. do you think his stern words and not pulling his punches towards russia is partly are the result of his domestic problems back home . i think it's totally result was domestic problems back home. i mean, he, he wants to, he wants to stay in power, and he wants to gratian himself without, with washington. so therefore he is desperate and he will do anything to remain on america's good side. and so therefore, he is now he's engaged in even more extreme rhetoric with regard to potent and so
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i'm sure he will do that. he will continue doing the same over the next few days. now we have some nate, so members already calling for new supplies to ukraine? what effect do you think this is going to have on an already very 10 situation? i think it all little that old heightens the level of conflict. i mean, i think that we're see, this is not the end of the story. i think the, we're going to see a broader military conflict. i'm really quite convinced that the, i think that the, all the, all the forces are lined up. and i think that this is just the opening shot of what could be a very serious military altercation. well, let's, let's hope it doesn't come to daniela's us political analyst and generally thank you very much for your insight with developing story. thank if, while earlier our correspondent broad does the have brought us the latest from the just recognize republic have done yet sc. there is still
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a lot of tension in his curfew. now, the snow will out in the streets, but as flat mapleton declares, russia's recognition with russia would recognize the frequency regions of them yet can regardless, there were fireworks here which, which caused quite a stir. i can't say it was the right decision, perhaps, but understandable people were freight that this was a renew, round of selling understandable, given the rumble of artillery shelling, mortar rounds, falling on vignettes and the outskirts of the past few days, especially which is where the most, when the most dramatic escalation occurred at some points that was seconds between blocks that you could hear for coming from different directions. we, we saw this ourselves today when we went just the little had a half hour drive from the nearest west, towards the front lines to report and to film the consequences of the aftermath of
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the fatal shelling there. ah, recently, incident, tragic, happened here. just west of daniella city to shelves launched from the ukrainian side made ah impact one there. another crater here and everywhere. here you'll see bloodied bits of clothing. this is a minus outfit. he was on his way to a mine shaft where he works. this is one of the 2 shelves that landed here again, we aren't going to spend very long here because there are still incoming shelves and exclusions the b, i. e mean close proximity. this dramatic escalation that we have seen in the netscape, as i also said, as occurred across the entirety of the front lines in the trenches,
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the their weights along them. we knows have seen le ganske today. there was said a parrot exacerbation attempt to a car bombing, perhaps targeting elegance, official who was responsible for coordination in the seeds, fire compliance office monitoring and compliance office. here in the breakaway republics, his cob you up, he was injured. his driver also today, shell struck in la ganske up north. i a power station depriving again thousands of electrical electricity at the time when it is cold. his badly needed here in the near to a water pumping station was also struck the province tens of thousands of for access to water further south. we've also seen reports of a vicious battles, but there has been this destroy magic escalation. and what, what was this happened is people were evacuating people who feared the worst. they believe that this escalation is, it is allowed to continue a could result in
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a board that is even worse than the one we saw in 2014, 2015. yes is to smith and i am now waiting to die. i think that if it all starts up again, i will be killed and that'll be that. but i am ready, dana nibble. a hot dog named craig, wasn't ready for war in now it's ready because it's received weapons from here and we'll use them here. this is and the matter of weeks the situation, he has escalated to the point that we, we had the you when come out today and cool for an immediate cease fire saying that heavy weapons that have been deployed by both sides. and that shouldn't be within the, within the area of the front lines of the conflict. so to pull them back to remove them and to de escalate. i returned to, to a love that we've seen here over the past few years. nevertheless, it remains to be seen how russia's announcement that it is recognizing the self
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proclaimed republics, their independence, and how that will affect the situation. because the situation is such that a huge number of troops along with heavy weapons and on the ukrainian side, deadly precise new weapons delivered to them by nato. they're all still there. they are poised for military action. it means to be seen whether peace here will return and whether it will be respected. we're just going to take a very short break now, but we'll be back again in just a few minutes to the top of the hour to continue our rolling coverage of russia's recognition of the independence of little guns underneath republics. i'll see shortly. ah, pick point is on its own vector, right? or that vector is going in a direction that is not obeying the classic 2 party system or the classic cartels.
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whether it's the 14 families and our salvador or the 12 member banksley central banking system. here in the us or any of the other cartels and power cartels, it's on its own vector, it's going in the same direction and it exposes a lot of these cartels. i think while we're seeing and in canada, for example, as the result of these money printing, central banks have destroyed society and without big coin, they wouldn't be obvious. oh, more than 20 years of a since one of the world's deadliest terrorist attacks that took thousands of lives, people started to scream. there was a waiver that came over us. that was like opening up an oven door, but not all wounds of heel. the survivors respond does have increased rates of cancer and other health issues due to the dust and chemicals they inhaled. coming
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ah, president putin makes the choice to immediately recognize the sovereignty of ukraine's dom bus republics. also citing treaties of friendship, cooperation, and mutual assistance to president of the russian federation. vladimir putin is signing the executive decree on thing recognition. all that done, it's people's republic easy dealer. she's the president of the russian federation trip. latimer couldn't play with signing the executive decree. on recognition the low ganske people's republic who no shelling caught fireworks in the dawn bus after recognition of the independence is officially signed in the kremlin days of happiness and broad smiles. not only in
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