ah ah, president putin makes the choice to immediately recognize the sovereignty of ukraine's don't bustle of lakes also signing treaties of friendship, cooperation, and mutual assistance. president of the russian federation, latimer kootenai is signing the executive decree on recognition. all good danced peoples republic with president of the russian federation. strict latimer couldn't signing the executive decree on recognition their logan's people's republic boss. after recognition of the independence is officially signed in the kremlin days of happiness and broad smiles, not only in done yet

a little against the pope lakes, but also in many russian regions where thousands of found a safe place to shelter president by doing claims. russia's move to recognize done yet, scandal guns autonomy represents an unusual and extraordinary threat to us security and signs more harsh sanctions against moscow and the dom bus republics with you're watching out the international was been quite a news day here in russia. my name is peter scott and welcome to the program. president putin has ordered the troops be sent to don boss, to maintain peace in the region. the move comes right after an announcements of recognition of the independence of the don. yes, unless ganske republics. now we can cross alive. now tell us pizza, patricia, go who has been following the situation very closely all day. so welcome to the

studio again. this hour. you've been following it very closely. now we've just listed one of the causes that the roots and mentioned whilst he said, well peter, 1st of all, we do have to understand that we can look at these treaties between moscow and don't answer because, well as blue ganske, as an agreement between 2 fully fledged nations because starting this monday, moscow treats these 2 republics as full entities of international law. but it's more importantly, it's more important to look at what exactly russia can do under these treaties in the 2 republics on their territories. so let me just go through the other elements of it. besides the fact that troops will now be sent to the don, it's going lugens republics. now, according to this agreement, russia will be able to use the infrastructure and the territory of the new states as moscow puts it for the military bases even possibly,

and the movement and the maneuvers of its own army right there. besides this v, a borders of donnie, it's going lugens for public will be secured and guarded. not only by the troops belonging to don, it's going lugens, but also by the russian army as well. which is very important here, because you've been asking our guests, what are the immediate consequences of this decision to recognize the independence? well, there it is. now, will probably be hesitant to start an attack or a launch, but further offensive against this to because and now the understand that they will be up against the russian military. and that particular case, there are also other elements of it. for example, the e can like measures that will be applied by russia from now on because they will insure further security of the banking sector of the 2 republics and financial

stability as well. but what i also want to tell you about is one of our boot and speech. it could have been quite short. after listening to the most senior russian officials, lot of putin held the conversation held a council with them. and we heard from survey should go we heard from other government ministers that it was high time to recognize be independent. so mr. put and could have just come out and said, okay, we're doing this. we've made the historic decision, but instead, mr. putting gave a full on history lesson about the story connections between russia and ukraine and explained the full motivation between the story behind the kremlin move. and one of the elements of it was, of course, ensuring the safety and security of the russian speaking population in east ukraine . that's from the one hand. on the other hand, that is the military build up. the whole military aspect behind it was that need for you could have become a member of nato. plus,

we do remember that the military aid from the u. s. and other nato countries has been on the up a year on year. and besides this, mr. prudent also said that he believes nato has already begun treating the cranium territory as a theater for further maneuvers and possibly even war. let's listen to what exactly mr. putin said on that for sure that the west started explore the territory of ukraine as the future theater of neela, reaction of the future battlefield. and it is aimed against russia. last year alone, it had more than 20000 troops and more than 1000 equipment hardware units. so yeah, i watched this address myself and you know, as he said, he could have done it in 5 minutes. but in fact, you talk about an hour and it was a bit of a history lesson. i learned quite a few things myself about russian ukrainian history. now preaching did mention

something that you never mentioned before and that was an encounter with a former us president bill clinton. what did you say about that was more than 20 years ago when bill clinton was still president lame duck. however, in fact, that is still a major role in international politics and vladimir putin back then just stepped in replacing both fields and mr. prudent said that he made a proposal that no one has ever heard of. this is the 1st time mr. mentioned that. and at this time around nowadays, this kind of proposal would sound as completely unbelievable that is the prospect of russia joining nato. now, what mr. prudent got any response was a controlled from bill clinton and mr. prudent believe that that was the time when he actually understood that under any kind of us administration, be

a democrat or republican at the us administration would always treat russia as an enemy, no matter what. there is no possibility of becoming friends to you. you said, you don't want to see friend and as an ally enough, but why do you want to make an enemy out of us? be only answered it that we got was it's not about our political regime or anything else. it just, they don't need such a big and independent country as russia. so that's the answer to all the question. that's the source of provisional american policy. they pursue in the russian track . now moving on to the military aspect of it, we do remember how 1st it was non lethal military aid from the u. s. and other major natal players. then i remember how i made

a few reports on that. not legal, military, a turn to legal, military aid. and we understand that once eastern european nations became members of nato in the course of the last 20 to 30 years, soon after that. and in a few years, they actually became a location for further deployment of natal missile, for example. and that is something that russia has always treated as a threat. but according to mister putin, ukraine didn't even have to become a natal member in order for that to happen. if it's strike some kind of a court with the u. s bilaterally or natal as a whole. and mr. prudent even began talking about the ranges of the weapons that could have potentially been deployed. he spoke about the timeframes as well. how soon these missiles could reach moscow or parts of russia that are in europe or

even beyond the ural mountains? well listen to that as well. pentagon has openly started developing a whole range of the land based meet selves with a range of 5500 kilometers. if such systems are deployed in ukraine, they can hit the targets in the european russia and also behind the euro's and travel time. all the tomahawk missiles to moscow will be less than 35 minute ballistic missiles, 78 minutes and hybrid sound offensive weapons for 5 minutes. that's like having a knife against our throat. probably the number one issue at this point is sanctions. and what exact measures the west is going to take in response to this. well, mr. porton touched upon that, even before saying there you have it. we've made the decision to recognize the independence. according to the russian leader,

he believes that the western countries were looking for a pretext to hit russia with sanctions in any case. and he believes that his country would have been wiped by these economic measures inevitably. so russia and a lot of my putting himself was ready for it. anyway, if you see a pretty is money, then you know, without the ship that they tried to blackmail us. once again, they threaten us with sanctions. and i think they will still impose those in fred use those as strong and as more powerful our country becomes we will always find an excuse to introduce more sanctions regardless of the situation on ukraine, that he is the only goal they have is to contain the development of bruship and they will do that like they did it before a long historic speech. clearly, all we have to wait for at this point is the reaction and we've already begun

getting it. my colleagues will tell you about it. so you'll be, won't be long until you're in the studio again times what that reaction is and something tells you want to wait too long for the drink. thank you ma'am. so breaking down the address people in don baths are celebrating russian recognition of their sovereignty. you can see them setting off fireworks and waving russian flags we heard from local don. yes. residents who gave us their reaction to this events. oh oh. oh, what a horton. hello my dog with

me on that. i see as a jewish the we cannot deal anyway. no, not, you know, they still, we not is not here with you or president biden is announced new sanctions against russia after it recognizes dumbass republics. a move, the white house was quick to label a gross violation of international obligations. oh, joined alive now by ortiz caleb open in new york. caleb,

what so the latest statements coming out of washington? sure, well we have an executive order that has been signed by us president joe biden imposing sanctions on the republics that have just been recognized by russia and don't ask and, god, scott, these republics are now subject to us sanctions, as are all who do business in the area that these republics have have received recognition in all of those territories. now what's interesting is the language of these executive orders was a bit dramatic. we have joe biden declaring that this moved by russia to recognise the republics has actually been considered to be a threat to the national security of the united states. here's what joe biden said . the russian federations reported recognition threatens the peace stability sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine, and thereby,

constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the united states. now we also understand the white house has been in touch with leaders around the world who share their sentiments. the ukranian president zalinski and joe biden were on the phone and they agreed that they rejected this move by russia. we also understand that the german chancellor sholtes was on the phone with with joe biden, and that they also agreed to reject this move by russia. now just intrude out the prime minister of canada, also gave his insights into these events. here's what he said. we will fully stand for the entire you, territorial integrity of ukraine and do not recognize any attempts to to in dependently, recognize or, or autonomy eyes. the separate shockey pied separatist

occupied regions of eastern ukraine. now the u. s. state department and the white house press secretary of both issued statements saying that in addition to the sanctions that have just been imposed on the republics, there will be new sanctions against russia. now, in the statement that gen saki and the white house spokesperson gave, she said that the swift sanctions, the threat of kicking russia out of the international banking system, is currently not yet on the table of that, that allegation. or that that, that threat is not yet being leveled. however, they are planning to sanction russia as well as the new republics that have just been recognized. now it's also important to note that on us social media, the top trending term has been put in the russian president. his name is trending on twitter as the number one term for today. the 2nd top trending term is

president's day. because after all, today is a federal holiday in the states. this is the birthday of george washington, the founder of the united states, the 1st president. and today is a federal holiday known as presidents day. so on twitter trending, respectively. we have prudent and followed by the u. s. federal holiday president. stay ok. let's thank you very much for that reaction from across the atlantic. that's our t correspondent, caleb and thank you. i'm also joined live now to flesh out this story even further by george. some wiley, who the senior research fellow at the global policy institute in london, george, welcome very much the program savings. what do you expect key every reaction to be to the recognition of the dna on the well, of course, they're not going to be happy, but they don't really have too many options because because they would love to try to use the military pause. but since nato has already ruled out going in

on behalf of with military force. 2 i mean that ukraine would be left alone to face the military might of russia, which is of course out of the question. so that's the end of that. and of course it was inevitable that. 1 1 this would happen and the ukraine would indeed find it. so in this situation. 1 it's actually losing, it's sarah for an already having too many options of sleep. now, joe biden has suggested that russia's recognition poses. i'm going to quote to you now. i don't usual and extraordinary threat c u. s. national security. what do much enough threat to be to the u. s. well, of course, there's no threat whatsoever, but of course, let's just simply a pro forma or any number of times in which the unit united states issues these

statements such and such a thing that you know, the way some, some event in, in africa poses and unusual to us nationals, they go to, it means absolutely nothing. the problem is that the united states has got a very heavily involved with ukraine when he didn't really need to do so. and especially as it really doesn't have too many options to, to do anything because it has taken all of the standard way in brock, probably probably taken off the table of using military force. so what else is it going to do? i mean it keeps talking about the sanction sanctions this sanction back. 1 russia is now much more capable of withstanding sanctions than it was in 2014 and even in 2014. it was still the sanctions very successfully. now,

teaching decree contains a clause about military support peacekeepers for the d and on the island are. what do you envisage? the consequences of russian peacekeepers appearing in this republic? do you think it will escalate to deescalate the situation? i think it will deescalate the situation. i don't think that ukraine will want to start shelling, dnr and helen are. while the peacekeepers are there a mean, it's only been able to conduct the military exercises on the understanding that russia isn't going to get involved. i think the, the fighting will now come to an end just like men's now at an end. so is the by being on the contact line that will have come to an end. i mean, i don't think you brands are gonna start taking risks. the question i think now is

what happens with nate, those and ukraine's application, or to join nato. you know how, how made it under respond to that. i mean that i think is a very interesting question. and leaving over to the e. u. now georgie said it would not impose a whole package of sanctions on russia immediately. they will see what the next steps will be. but what you envisage will be the, the, the sanctions imposed on russia. as a result of this recognition of the d n r, the elena? well, i think, but let me just the usual package of sanctions of the problem is that the, the big weapons which is coming off, you know, the, the bacterial gas and especially they can not stream to israeli just now on the table of germany is already having serious problems with energy,

with electricity prices, sky high, they're just not in a position to look for tentative sources of natural gas. so they have to stick with the agreements that they have, even though no stream to will probably not come on line anytime in the near future. but they need a lot of other natural gas for russia. whereas swift, as your correspondence pointed out, that's also off the table because germany has so many investments in russia that if russia want to be kicked out of the swift, then your germany would not be able to make payments. of all of that goes, it gets from russia and then of course the german industry will be very unhappy about this. so basically they're just not, you know,

they're not gonna be able to conduct these commercial transactions with just germany is dependent. so swift is also off the table. so i think the bands will happen, but i don't think is any of the major sanctions are in the are in the works. what in many ways you've already answered my last question. the seems that the you will be reluctant to impose sanctions for fear of harming its own financial interests. yeah, that's, that's exactly right. because, as i said earlier, i mean basically germany is still very reliance of bomb energy from russia. so if russia were to be kicked out of swim, germany would be able to pay for the energy and that would be just be pretty much the end of energy supply for germany. germany is the economy, power, house of europe. germany is an export driven economy. it con, just simply,

so they have no energy. so i think in the short there is nothing much that the europeans can do. i think in the long term, i think the europeans of germany will cut themselves off from, from russia. i mean, i think that in the long term, i think they go to the coming of all economic and commercial dies with russia, particularly on the issues of energy. but that takes a little bit of time. i mean, that's not something you can do in the few months, but over the coming years, i think you're going to just cut off many of its economic and commercial ties with russia. well, georgia, thank you very much for your time and your insights into this developing story of george somewhere. senior research fellow at the global policy institute in london. think it. meanwhile,

tens of thousands of don bus residents have been fleeing the region as the crisis escalades. all corresponded done quarter is that one of the many temporary housing facilities that to accommodate the vacuum. these just after the evacuation was declared, actually the rust off regional government declared a state of emergency and set up or around over. now, a 100 different temporary housing complexes around the region to make sure that these people coming in will have free food. they'll be able to have a warm place to stay a while they make their way on 2 different actually other russian regions that are prepared to hold them for more. a longer term. we actually spoke with 11 family today that actually took a family of evacuees from don boss into their home themselves. and they're making sure that they're going to be able to wait this all out in their very own home. but another thing that the governor of ra stove actually set at the beginning, he appealed to hotels in the region to help out with this housing effort. and like

you said, i am at one of those facilities right now. this is the hotel that we've been staying in here as we've been working throughout the region. and you know, this is the lobby where evacuees have been coming in to check in and everything right now it's, it's a bit empty but at very different times of the day this place is literally packed to the brim. so i want to show you all. busy basically what it goes on here, once evacuees make it to this hotel, they register here at the, the check and us. but they also have several other things they have to do here. this is a coven, 19 testing station, actually. and the workers to you have agreed to tell us a little bit a bit about what they do here. but because you to but also the jim resistance and you might this a vision c p records or you call that express tasks. people get the results in 15 minutes. all tasks we have done are negative. there are no positive tests so far. and we have done around $100.00 tests today. okay,

so that was the area where they're doing coven tests for the evacuation that are coming through these doors. as she mentioned just there, there have been no positive tests for co, in this location. and also we spoke to other other we, we spoke to staff in other temporary housing facilities. it also said that these are the, the rate of positive cova tests is actually been very low. another thing i want to show you right here, you can see these people working at computers. this is the area where the people from done yet, and logan's officially register with their passports from the self proclaimed people's republics. and they're also, we heard from several people that they're able here to receive or apply for the 10000 roubles that the russian government has promised to every person coming here from the don boss, people's self proclaimed people's republics. that's about $130.00. so this is the lobby and like i said before, there are

a lot of other places throughout roster of region that have been set up as temporary housing shelters. and it's not just hotels. it's also places like childrens former childrens day camps, summer camps, and even a, a sports school. actually we earlier went to a children's sports school that has a big gym that's been outfitted with beds, a clinic, and everything people need basically to live on their way to other russian region. we discussed the situation with daniel mcadams, the executive director of the wrong pole piece institute, who stressed that western lead is forecast just when realised, and it was possible to avoid the current crisis. what happened to day completely, completely blows out of the water, weeks and weeks of the us administration saying a full scale russian invasion of ukraine is coming. it's eminent, it's coming, it will be next thursday. and boris johnson said, i think yesterday this will be on a scale of world war 2. we're seeing something very,

very different. they've all been proven wrong again and again. and this is a big one. but again, they'll never be blamed for it. brewton has announced the russian piece keeper force is going to be assembled and sent into the area pursuant to the declaration, which also discussed military agreements with the breakaway regents. the question for angela sky now was, what is your next move? what are you going to do? he took an hour to explain the rational. when is the last time you've seen a world leader? i'm not praising him. i'm just, it's remarkable to take an hour explaining the rationale for his foreign policy decision. well, i can say if i was lensky, i would ruin the talking that i ever got into partnership with us. and i'm not a supporter of russian policy. i'm a critic of us. one policy, this whole thing came about because of us intervention, isn't us interventionist, overthrow the government at 2014. this was all avoidable. if the u. s. government didn't decide to over to the government and ukraine and then put a bunch of weapons on ukrainian territory. we wouldn't even be talking about it

right now. this is a failure of the neo cons, victoria newland of antony, blinking object sullivan. they were all intimately involved in the overtime when 2014, they're still in power. now this whole thing should be laid on their lap, but of course washington never reflects on its own failures. i don't blame them on other people. i don't believe there's an appetite for war, but don't forget, unfortunately, you know, the american public, as for said propaganda 247 from the mainstream media and the mainstream, me to divide the world up into black. captain white has the good guys and the bad guys, and it's a real problem because americans don't have a deep understanding of the world. they don't understand what's going on. and unfortunately, one thing that they don't understand most, which is the most important thing is this has nothing to do with us. if we had just left ukraine alone from the beginning, we wouldn't be facing this issue. we wouldn't be facing the possibility of war, but i think that's a bit too much for a lot of americans to swallow. but thank goodness, there are a lot of americans who don't get their news from the mainstream media who seek out alternative sources. well,

that's how things are looking at 3 30 am moscow time. my name is peter scotts, and i'll be back again at the top of the hour to bring you more developments and analysis of russia's recognition of the solvency of those don't bustle public. so i'll see you then. thank you lou. ah, join me every thursday on the alex simon, sure. and i'll be speaking to guess in the world politics sport, business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. ah.