this is the kaiser re towards all kinds of neat stuff to get into today. stacey, well, you might notice that we are back in the united states of america, where it is a little bit colder than el salvador. everybody in the comments and online and around the world, there's loving the interview with dr. felix viola, who is the vice president of our salvador. and if you could tell he's like a really thoughtful, compassionate man. and with a very fascinating background and history and story and, and understanding of the people and the history of el salvador. so it's been really wonderful to watch that interview with him. i really enjoyed speaking with the vice president. he's got a broad knowledge of things. he's a very educated man. cultured ma'am. off camera, we're talking about paris in europe and things like that, which i thought was fascinating and hope to speak with him again. some time. the thing i wanna bring up about him because he talks about the assassination of his

father, which happens in 19801980 was quite a pivotal year in el salvador. it was at the beginning of 1980 when we had the archbishop oscar romero publish a letter in the new york times, pleading with the american people and government to stop funding. the military who were massacring peasants and stuff like that. within 2 months he was assassinated and then followed a year of just all sorts of assassinations, the rape and murder of the nuns and the american nuns by december. so $980.00 was a pivotal year that was also the year in which his father was assassinated. and it made me think of just like the context of today as the u. s. mainstream media talks about el salvador talks about the president as if there is no

history there as if it's just like a guy like plucked out of the blue right there and installed today like that there is no context to the history of u. s. involvement. there, of the past, of which we were involved of all the various occupations, and the interference is with various governments. for, for the past 5060 years, the american interference in el salvador is particularly stunning and horrific. and i think that the americans would have loved to have just swept it under the rug and forget about it. but 2 things happened. wanted social media. then we had president bush kelly come in. the office is incredibly vibrant and a young and she made big coin legal tender, which is, as some call it even the cover of one of the major periodicals a couple of years ago. they referred to bitcoin as the true for machine. a sexually

bitcoin reveals the truth, even truth, everyone would love to see him and then forgotten. and so this is an ongoing process and it's going to be true around the world and we see it happening elsewhere in other countries. but this is really stunning. what's going on exactly back to el salvador. i wanted to point out that there was a quote that jack dorsey recently gave from william gibson when he was interviewed by michael sayler. and he's the quote is that the future is already here. it's just not evenly distributed yet, and he was talking about our salvador and that the future is here and it's, i'll salvador. and this is one thing that also makes me think of today and the context of our history and our shared history. because all humans, we have a shared history, but in the united states and el salvador, we have a uniquely, some might say, disturbing history, right?

but so el salvador had been ron and still to the stay. there's a remnants of it this, the for the kotor say alaska tor say the, the 14th families and in the united states, a lot of our problems also come from a low sto, say, the 12 fed bangs. so the 14 families are the 12 bangs they control distribution of wealth. and what happens is that they do it in conspiracy. they form a cartel of 14 families. they form like secret meetings of f o m c meetings to determine and conspire the price of money or how much wealth they're willing to distribute. and what we always then see, especially in the history of latin america, is a redistribution like the people rise up and they want to read distribution. so what big quinn has offered is a plan b, like we don't need to have these cycles of revolution, civil war, revolution,

civil war, consolidation and conspiracy in of power and wealth and things like that. we just can have an open ledger where consensus is to reach not conspiracy and not any sort of violent revolution. right? like i say often, victor, bitcoin is on its own vector, right? so that vector is going in a direction that is not obeying the classic 2 party system or the classic cartels. whether it's the 14 families and el salvador or the 12 member banks of the central banking system here in the u. s. or any of the other cartels and power cartels, it's on its own vector, it's going in its own direction. and it exposes a lot of these cartels. and i think what we're seeing in canada, for example, is the result of these money printing. central banks have destroyed society and without bitcoin, it wouldn't be obvious. but when you have something i've been going, it's,

i suddenly obvious that the abuse as taking placed by the central bank. so when something becomes so obvious like that, the people of will will rise up and we're seeing that in canada. but we've saw this with occupy wall street. we saw this with y'all and france. and these other groups around the world we called the global instruction against banker occupation. and that's just been exacerbated and accelerated with the domination now of bitcoin. right. president mckelly said something once which sticks with me to this day. i say it all the time and i repeat it and he said, where we are going is to the place we want to be. that is what he has set in motion with this bit coin law. we want to be in a place where there is not this pattern of consolidation of wealth and hoarding of wealth and conspiracy against the people. and then a revolution, a bloody revolution of civil war economic may. hm. what do you call the last 3040

years post civil war and i'll solve it, or what do you call that? when 3000000 salvadorans flee the country, what do you call that? right. well, we want to stop that. so where we are going is to the place we want to be, we set in motion, we can choose a different path and they've chosen a different path. so anybody can follow that model. he, the president of el salvador himself, says that he wants to be like alexandria. this is alexandra. you could do the same thing in america. you don't have to have a dilapidated, you know, disease sort of system falling apart. decay everywhere, you don't need to have it, you can choose to go to a different place. you could choose not to have desa despair. you could choose the distribute the wealth differently and stop the low sto, say stop the 12 banks like stop this system that has obviously set in motion a you know, a lot of disintegration of the fabric of society. right. we're all people talk about the client as being on campus gate

a ball and censorship resistance. another word that one can use is incorruptible, and big coin is incorruptible. and i think president for cali recognizes that is fantastic to have money as the base layer of your economy. that's incorruptible. and the vector is going in the direction that he wants to go. and that direction now is attracting the brightest people in el salvador to work with them. you know, having been anal, salvador, this team that surrounds him. the young politicians and advisors, he has are all incredibly smart enthusiastic. they're on board bitcoin and they want to make el salvador time of like the shining city on the hell, the beacon of freedom in the world, which is a place the united states had for a long time. but i think it's decided to just throw the keys to the bankers in the cartels and really turn, turn the,

turn their back to this idea of freedom. and so it's an open game. and what i'll salvador saying is like, ok, who's going to be the free country in the world? now it's an open game. let's let, let that be us. los those say is what you were talking about. the cartels when they throw the keys to the cartels. i'll rap with this and which is i, i tweeted just as we were about to leave el salvador about these us senators who submitted this thing to the committee on foreign relations and they're demanding some sort of report on what our salvador, a sovereign nation who is nobody's backyard, you know what they get to do with their country, right. so i said, as u. s. senators threatened el salvador today for daring to take their own decisions on monetary and economic matters. it is worth remembering the past, which is not even past until bitcoin into kelly came along. i use an image of st. pasco romero. he's now a sate. acura marrow. and it's just

a beautiful mural actually right across the street from where he lived in san salvador. so i went there on the last day before we left and took that photo before we flew out. yeah, it's a remarkable photo to us. a remarkable place. incense on the door because it's the center of a total verb renewal project. a whole new library is going up. this downtown is vibrant. there's a lot going on the chiva while it's got a huge stance set up, people are fully bitcoin fluent meant people in the street. i talked to they now because they love big coin. and i think, you know, putting all the hyperbole aside, it just comes down to one simple idea. the big coin is, incorruptible, el salvador is adopting bitcoin. and in the united states is unfortunately become just a corrupt sus pool. but the pass was not even passing. so big queen rex stops destroys all models and cycles said the future is already here now because of big. i think

that's what i'm saying is like that the past it can be over if you choose to go to a different destination that ha, charles, that's incredible. i think you're absolutely right. and, you know, let's go to part 2 of the interview with the vice president because here's a man who i could listen to for hours. don't go way much more coming ah, extreme nationalism which is release to the u. s. and they want us dominance, but surely they are sensible voices of the u. s. c. that's gone for what you ahead do, gone through it. gore war is not the way. there's another way where it could be would it wouldn't for all of everyone. and i certainly believe that the gold britian between china and the united states, and he would for that, but

a russia would benefit man guiding much more than a contract. no more than 20 years have passed since one of the world's deadliest terrorist attacks that took thousands of lives. people started to scream, there was a wave that came over us. that was like opening up an oven door, but not all wounds of heel. the survivors respond does have increased rates of cancer and other health issues due to the dust and chemicals they inhaled. coming in to get my board cleaned out, the the metals, the payment model of blood in my blood, in terms of 1st responder was well over a 100001st responders. and there were some estimates that tend to 20 percent still have to yes. son. yeah, but the chief full recovery,

it's my wife. cherish of the minute i had with the only friends. i thought i was humble before because really humbled you depreciate life the me welcome back to the kaiser report, i max kaiser time to return to our conversation with the vice president of l. solven's. our doctor. feel like you are doctor felix. you are welcome back. thank you, max, i'm here still here. that is fantastic. i made it. i didn't read my book yet, and i just said, this is a new handle for many of the new economic scholars. you know, we just have stimulus, they haven't changed their minds. all. do see that it presented,

following the bread, good. the bread would they situation all this concept. they are, you know, fell apart. and now we are trying to decide new new ways, the new i this new ideas, not a village you but ideas the president has day came very, very, you know, contains, that we are moving in the right way to the future today. going to be freedom to present what country as a model of a new way to manage their government was the vision of a leaders from the 21st century. i mean, whatever was done in the past, whatever was on in the 20th century that we were part of the journal. i am a baby boomer, he's my landfill. so our capital in h and again, ration means as he used to said, a complimentary view of this project. what were both baby boomers were aware? i told him once, when we were in the, in the closing,

when you remember on the beach that he was kind of, i see what i said, oh, you were born. i was when there was to face the was it was don't remember what young dos on 69. right. so are you at what stock? oh, well about the spiritual i was and we took the spirit of freedom, bryce, that was a different kind of freedom at the moment. now i said to him, this is a new version because he's, he's, they will still of the 21st century. but anyway, so what was your favorite band? what's that? while there were many groceries in june, garage and young. ok, of course the performance of your colker, joe cocker. your big you died recently. i wasn't so bloody wasn't living in colorado, not in england, but anyway. yeah, ok, i can get back to the past 1st. as you mentioned, there is a whole history. it's something to recognise and maybe move away from so your personal history, your father was or you know, he is

a hero of el salvador. can you tell us about that story? oh, well, yeah, my father was the president of the national university when the civil war start in the country and he was killed by dad then a squad in october, and 1880. it was awful junior for, for me, for this i believe there was a when was killed recent romero. my father was a blessing on the national university. the leaders of the of the are the rebels are not in the crowd to the front there for religious. there might ignore from the right estate. i mean, there was somebody can say already willis, i know. so it means terrible junior, for the last that we have in the b better is on time. he's less, he has been kept by different needs the to show why?

because at the moment when he was killed, he was the president of the war university service. and actually he was flying to geneva. what is the headquarters of these institution to share the meeting of the work in new york city service bore? and i guess he was killed exactly the moment because the regime, the military dictator or she but the mom and during one him to to, to speak out in a for on like this war while i'm in a junior, i was, you know, the many institution this they have the waters over there, and my father's one that we're going to see if the series was ready to receive. all the denounces. and my father was, you know, collecting for the invasion to the national university to do campus. the me, when they to go over all the schools, the law school, the school,

all the school, the medicine, the school. and in addition to the lou turning of the do, the goes that we've been, they burned books of the library. so that was already well for us now, recently, part of the media in the opposition here in el salvador, accused max's stacey of being economic hitman. and what you've just described was an example. your father was the victim of actual economic hit man. this is exactly what john perkins talks about in his book, confessions of economic hit man. so. 2 it's ironic, it's also sad that there are still people in this country that don't understand that big coin is offering a path to freedom. what. what is their problem to kind of problem. the 1st one, the 1st of all is they don't understand is movement to they cannot understand it because they get hook in the bus. and the 2nd is because they fear they fear the economic interest can be challenge because they are used to be comfortable in this

school. so when you move this to go, when you try to move forward, when you try to move in the right way to attend the interest of the population or the people at large, then do it, or you'll be comment. but for the small groups, the elite. so overall, the economic elite does, they hold the power, so we need to be aware that this is a b, big challenge. and you are, you know, leaving these women. why? because we have read or know these moves. i promise i will read it. but the, we are, what about old use, the coach that you has shown over those years when you start dealing and challenge all the system. i know one story that i've discovered is completely false and that is that the country is mired in violence here. and that's completely false. we came

here and walking around san salvador and it reminds me of beverly hills or santa monica, california. it's a lovely city. there's vibrancy, there's restaurants, are open the people around the street looking great. so that was a perception that's completely false. so far is completely full false because from the day one on june, the 1st 2019, the presumably kelly put on place their brand, which is called control territory on which mean tried to control or recovering the control of the territory. that wasn't the hands of the guns, that's why the sub was present and all the time as one of the 3 tops violent countries in that war. because that because they that the guns they took over kind of a 3rd of the national territory. even the revolutionary movement in this, even one good and good, the control does not. i live out of something similar in new york city. and then i

mean, it was a violent crime, a $3000.00 murders a year. it was then decided to, they had a policy called broken windows or yeah, everything was basically clamped down and no graffiti, et cetera. so this is what governments have to do occasionally to contend with, with violence and being i believe the numbers are pretty fantastic in terms of the reduction of the in this is one of the shipment of these government in less than 2 years. the president. okay, let's plan, i'm going to get down absolutely allow the rate of the homicide will have days and weeks with seattle on the side. i mean, this is a be a schuman while i was chicago. could be so lucky, not only to send you to chicago, to reduce their violence, newly out of control, we are more than willing to share what expediency by the way. we have been called for different neighbor countries to show our expertise,

to our experience. and the president told me, in one case, i cannot say which country these because i'm not allowed to reveal that they were going to, but the president allow me to go there and share. i was what i experienced in controlling the violence in the areas in the rural areas. i mean all the wars there, that's the gangs i believe. i mean all these crimes being committed by the banks. so i think that this is something that presents what country wouldn't one of the most safe country in the region. not only on did, let's say, in public security, but saved also in the legal system. because it is honestly that for investors, they want to know which country they're going to, who's going to be moving their us it. let's talk about investors for a 2nd. so there's a whole new draft of new laws are being introduced to deliver sweeping changes to the economic infrastructure. you are a lawyer,

law is your background. what can you tell us about that? what kind of cities we have a comedian, a strong commitment with the president to strength. their rule of law in our current law for us means, you know, not only the separation of powers, but also implementing the lo that's out a needs to one on t. do economic development. ok. human rights volcano, bonds. it's a new asset class. it's a new security. and along with those volcano bonds, which my understanding is that they're going to come along around march 15th between march 20th. that there's also a sweeping agenda of dozens of new law security laws and re almost redoing the entire security law infrastructure to accommodate bitcoin. is that, is that a fair statement? first of all, what, what is that mean? that means the scaffolding legal is scaffolding. now we really know we replace the

old one. no, that was based on corruption on, you know, bribing. i mean the, all the last word, prepaid, even for a, those people that a one day than a like to pay taxes. i mean, those are the guys who build that legal system and we are now trying to build a new one based on this 1st giving absolutely security to the investors. basically the private sector, the needs calling the rules in transparency and also not only for them but also preparing very fair taxation system. because this is something that you could be surprised in our 5 day hands. corruption. we have the last 4 president over the last for fraud. it was today, and i try and, and it was so what,

by political russian saga he's in prison and he was condemned furnace. and i just said in they are any good because they came to the justice. so the corruption was a big deal. but the 4 of them all together, the amount they are accusing the interview knows, is roughly $101000.00 a 1000000 dollars, 1000000 dollar the them but the ebay, those, the people who they refused to pay taxes. they a bait, 2000 media, $2000000000.00, but here rather than the vote president wasn't 20 years. one bill you every you the government of this other last to williams for ebay, those. so we're, this is also that we are dealing with, with a new legislation with trying to build a more fair. you're saying the rail criminals are the bankers, the bunker part of it. because this is them are, you know,

big business international companies that they prefer to brian somebody on the same problem. i mean, i would say it's a, i think after that durham report in the united states will probably be surpassing you in terms of politicians and jail. well, this is something that one day, i mean we will change that culture because this is a culture. i mean, we have to deal with, you know that this, but i'm a tourist that may go for the juice. that's the mothers are well, these guy, he was for a one. he was leaving the neighborhood, but he became a p or he came politician. he had a leg, you know, he lives in a very transformational or a fancy houser so that more than we have to, to deal with because his culture of the problems are out there with you and from mom or to another. thank you so much for being on cause report. thank you ma'am.

have a real pleasure and you know, my, my regard of my greet is in all my with it was all my her for your audience and for the people are supporting this project and we promise that we will never fail. we will move forward and with the live show of the present to kill it. we see it awesome. all right, that's good for this edition of the kaiser report with may max kaiser and stacy herbert once again a very special thank you to our vice president of el salvador doctor felix you. oh, thank you. thank you. don't next time pay off. ah, ah, showing me every 1st on the alex simon sure. i'll be speaking to guess in the world of politics, sport, business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. mm.

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