ah, in yesterday's recognition of these republics was dictated by the fact that public li, leadership of the ukraine key of started seeing that they had no plan of implementing its agreements. they didn't want to. so what else was laughter said? president putin says ukraine has killed off the men's agreement saying that ending the don't biased conflict. locals welcoming promised arrival. brushing peacekeepers . loud comes off the president pollutant recognized the independents so but don't ask and look out for public pledging to ensure peace in the region. if i'm certain we haven't been abandoned and that we have a future, we greeted the knees with tears and we are happy. at least there will now be order . the bombings will stop and people will be able to lead normal lives was told,

it's better to put on a bullet proof vest before stop working. we are now waiting for the red cross who are going to deliver water. and thanks for the people here. a correspondent report from the dawn. i work is a little much the surprise me reports of these 5 on nation from both sides of the border with germany who's friends and won't string to guess. bottom line is western powers go up sanctions against moscow. ah. fly from moscow. thanks for joining us tonight here. not international. i'm daniel hawkins. wherever you are this evening. welcome to the program. now, the upper house of russia's parliament has approved the president's request to deploy the russian military abroad. this applies to peacekeeping forces, se comes off in the lower house, the state duma,

ratified treaties of military and economic cooperation with burnett scouts. republics, myself, the president recognized them as sovereign states and was just now president putin spoke to the media saying that means peace agreements have been destroyed by you crime. these documents are signed to bind the hands of the days republics. and we'd take the plan back then we achieved compromise, really. and it wasn't an easy thing to do because initially the hands of putting in your chest and you did me this republics didn't even want to be a part of the means. agreements. they didn't want to sign them, but finally were bridget and compromise with you and you mean and it was really making a step towards reaching this fella. graham and resolving situation by principal means and yesterday, during the security council meeting, need sadness with the app or something. parents and guardians, it was all brought down to 0. that's why the mains the grants really it will

be the say were destroyed the dog long before he has man. yesterday's recognition of the people's republic call don, that 9 you not biased say to the not by the representative solution. we can use all this real problem by the way, back thing to key of authority is and yesterday's, recognition of this republics was dictated by the fact that public li, their leadership was all ukraine. and that was the way you see, he started saying that they had no plan of implementing the agreements because they didn't want to. so what else i would love to see all the correspondence. katrinka joins me in a studio full or more on this page, and had a busy couple of days, has a meeting with officials now with the media, answering their questions on what exactly this means, the future relations between russia, ukraine, indeed,

and the water picture as well what was said at this media conference that ohi. well, 1st we do have to understand what moscow is current. the being accused of like we've heard from our guests before. first of all, that is runing the minsk agreements. and also like we heard from the u. s. administration a little earlier of a still sticking to their plans of invading ukraine. well look at that's how of the west puts it up. the joe biden ministration. even cold. busy busy the latest decision by the crumbling, as the 1st steps in the abyss, a grand plan to invade. you great. well, let me just explain what vladimir putin putin's answer to these accusations was. first of all, again, like you've just said, as the most important thing is that the kremlin was ready to wait for

a long time to wait for a key of to make the 1st steps in complying with the minced agreements. and at the 1st steps that were listed in that document, we're giving the regions of don at scale lugens special status, a wider autonomy and also changing the ukranian constitution in order to give more rights to the pro russian population in these regions to the russian speaking population and these regions, but under the previous mccraney, president petro porsche ankle under the a president who is in charge right now, vo dimmers lensky. none of these steps have been made and at mister put pretty much said that a deep minsky agreements are currently buried because russia couldn't wait any longer while the population there while the people and bonus can the gods were still living under the daily threat of being bombarded by ukrainian missiles, now speaking of russia's plans to invade ukraine, so to say, well,

let's just make clear that the forces that russia is either a ready to deploy or are that the washout will deploy in the next few days are up. there will be there on a peacekeeping mission. and like, it was again, a said in the treaties that russia just signed with the donors people's republic and the lugens people public at they will guard that the borders together with the russian army and day will ensure that there is no further aggression from keith. that's the main goal. that's the main objective for the russian troops on the ground. and mister prudent has been making that very clear, so they're not there for any aggression against the rest of ukraine. they don't wanna come as far as the key of the crane and capitol, the other regions of ukraine day. just want to make sure that the people there live

in peace. now the speaking of the reaction by the west, speaking of the prospects of further settlement earlier today, we heard from the russian for a foreign ministry that the moscow is still open for, of further diplomatic moves. but when mister putin was asked what could be the settlement there and what could be a compromise, at least in understanding mister prudent even said something. interesting. first of all, the highest form of democracy needs to be acknowledged by the west. that's for example, the referendum that happened in crimea or the referendums from 8 years ago in the people's republic of dawn as can the people's republic of logan's, when the people said that they want more autonomy or even independence. certainly, you know, why should happen from the science products when we,

if we consider a fruition situation saddled and women in long term perspective, so that the situation come down and we wouldn't talk about any conflict, especially aren't conflict, correct. and so i didn't think it's a secret and she was there is nothing secret value at the 1st. and that must be done by everyone is to recognise the will of the people who leave and set us topple and crimea, no. going to stay with them. and i have said that i met with you, but many times. so how different is these? when you, jim, has these referendum, why and in customer this will expressing this will. how different is it from what happened cost? because there was a referendum there and i would like to reiterate $1.00 more time to which the grammy review. no one did that at gunpoint, no one for them to go to the voting station. they did it voluntarily, and they made a decision to join russia and we should respect clear decision. now,

whatever president booting has said about this recognition, the potential deployment of peacekeeping forces. this is going to be viewed entirely differently and has been viewed very differently. why western powers, of course, they view this as an attack on a sovereign states as russian aggression. the russians are those see things very differently. they feel they've been pushed into this because the west has failed to see that security concerns, which has been the discussion of the table for quite some time i went through and mister fulton has said quite a few things about that. now, besides the things that i mentioned just a couple of minutes ago, the safety and security of the roughly speaking population in east ukraine, the pro russian population. there we do understand that there are a number of very serious security concern for moscow for

when it comes to the military out. and now just think about this and it's arming. the seemed like the ultimate goal of some of the forces in the west for quite some time. now, i remember how 56 years ago, and i was making report on how key of was being armed by non lethal military aid. then a couple years turned in to see if you did a legal notary aid of each. and then at the end of the day, we ended up talking about millions worth of guns and weapons, which is being sent through great doctors being sent there. drill being held pretty much on a monthly basis and mr. newton keeps talking about how ukraine is being turned, even if it's not a main natal member. more than a full fledged even

a military base, pretty much for the nato countries there. and this is a direct threat to russia right on the country's doorstep. and perhaps it is fair to say that this reason is no less important for the kremlin to make such a decision, which is called a very bold decision by the western politicians. at this point, deeds and both sides still, i think hoping for that summit between potentially the president of russia queen on the 24th options for negotiations still on the table despite the situation clearly escalating over the last few days. but frank will get back to you more from one of his just a little later. thanks for of this all comes as rushes that state dealer has ratified treaties of military and economic corporation. with an x can look out for publics that's after president putin find a decree, recognizing them as silver inside his house. some of the don't buy residents and refugees from the region in russia greeted that decision. we certainly does not ac

paula's region 14 year old either wednesday. you thought about it or no, didn't you send it with zillow? he knew he shot the shot. we moved from virginia 2 more years to realize i'm certain we haven't been abandoned and that we have a future liada. i'm glad 1st and foremost because now our people won't be killed anymore. i feel sorry for our people. it is a long hold for events. i came to holland dynette, watched the tv in expectation yesterday, greeted the knees with tears. and we are happy. at least there will now be order.

the bombings will stop and people will be able to lead normal lives or to and all we've been waiting for this for a long time. is the feeling that finally it's happened. but according to the signed agreements, russia will help to ensure the defense of the 2 of public's that includes protecting their borders. it also allows the participants to create and use military bases on each other's territory and also recognize official documents including passport. russia will provide support our full financial and banking systems in the to republics. the treaties will last 10 years and can be prolonged automatically. a rush is foreign minister says that, aside from peacekeepers, russia has no media plans to send troops to the new republic. such a decision will be based on possible future threats. meanwhile, president putin's voice alarm. i would, nathan plant him, you know, since, according to our information about ukraine succession to nato, the issue is a foregone conclusion. we understand on the such a scenario,

the level of the military threats against russia will multiply the risk of an attack when our country will increase. many times over, enshrined in us strategic planning documents is the possibility of a preemptive strike against enemy miss l. systems and who is that enemy? russia, ukraine's presidents and law makers change. but the regime that seized power in key of retains is cool line of aggressive nationalism. that is why we are taking a long over g decision to recognize the sovereignty of the duets and ganske republics. well no, 13000 people up now died since the thought of the equating conflict almost a quarter of the victims on civilians. more than 23000 have been injured on more than a 1000000 ukrainians on the display or russia recognition of the republic. scott was a bit of fresh escalation in boma. dozens of seas fall. relations were a portrait overnight from both sides of the border. from now, several regions in dawn bus have been cut off from the water supply due to the heavy shelly correspondent throw on call sort of is needed and ask with this update,

we are in the village of sy, glen of car, right outside the city of damascus. this place is a home to about 8000 people and it's so if a major, major white thing of the last few days, i was told it's better to put on a bulletproof vest before thought working. we are now waiting for the red cross who are going to deliver water. and thanks for the people here because as a result of shelling, water supply was cut off to the people here and to nearby. it sounds as well, all and all about a lot more than 20000 people have no access to drinking water. the moments we are riding along with the red cross delivering water tanks to the people here, we're driving right along the front line. the ukraine positions are merely just basically hundreds, all 5 meters away. but this, despite that, the,

the red cross nice to deliver water tanks to a residence and they deliver to the sell water tanks to 5 different locations in the village. this is for so told and 2nd call water, they have also delivered a bottled water for those residents that say needed. the international committee of the red cross is very concerned about the developments we have witnessed in the dumbass over the past few days. and times of conflict and violence. it is essential that all sides ensure the continuous supply of a sufficient quantity of drinking water as well as other essential basic supplies to meet the daily needs of the civilian population on both sides of the line of contact. unfortunately, the recent intensification of the fighting has again put certain keys central services at risk of coming to a full stop ice r. c would like to stress that without urgent action to protect essential services

in areas where the hostilities take place, we might face humanitarian implications at the large scale, much. shuttling over the last 2 weeks has become very frequent. people were evacuated from their homes and we were left without water. the red cross is bringing us water supplies. for 8 years. we have been waiting for the republic to be recognised and now it's happened. so we won. well let's go live now. so good. all back german politician and lawyer grew north. thank you so much for joining us in the program. good savvy with us. this. our been a very busy day in the actual of the russian politics. president putin meeting with officials meeting with the media today. and the latest headlines, the russian parliament approving the use of peacekeeping troops into the nets and look out for publics. in your opinion, is this a move that is going to stabilize the situation in the region? or on the contrary?

in flame tension is further would be crying in the west because this will be viewed as an act of hostility. well, i think from a, an international law perspective. i think both the recognition of the 2, easton, ukrainian provinces and the dispatch front and the dispatch of troops are difficult to justify. so if you're talking about stabilisation or the position, i think that certainly not the immediate consequence. and russia's recognition, of course, of these 2 republics, the dumbass and by going to the republic has been widely condemned in the west as illegal russia though, does thought the president we had quite there from president booth. and earlier in the example of kosovo as one example where a similar event occurred,

is that something you buy into the powers that the president has drawn a well, i mean, i've said that from an international law perspective, these actions are difficult to justify. but should we say, a certain casual approach to international law is hardly the prerogative or the exclusive feature of russian foreign policy. i think if we, if we look back at the last 20 or 25 years, what we find is that there's probably been many more western nato or us lead violations of international than russian breaches. examples will be iraq, libya, afghanistan, and said, i think there's a fairly great cause

a fully constrained by international law. let's put it that way. if we look at the response from western leaders, joe bought and said rushers latest move and quote, constitutes an unusual uninstalling threat to the national security and foreign policy of the united states. do you think this is a move at the rectory threatens washington on the security of america? i think that's a very extravagant claim, isn't it? i mean, the russian physician, there's always been that assurances were made to moscow at the time of the end of the soviet union, that nato wouldn't expands eastward. now, the west's gone back of that surance and pushed forward natures from peers to the pay dish. beto russian border.

there's been repeated coals funding co ration of the ukraine into nato. well, i seen many people in europe do understand the russian position. this will be a threat to russian security. let's just imagine that a russian lead all that government diverge to mexico or canada. that was very. busy sympathetic to russia, let's, let's just assume that it kind of russian chinese lead military lives a place to incorporate either mexico or canada into such lines. i can hardly imagine that this will be welcomed in the united states. so i think we have to compare like, with, like ukraine is to russia roughly more mexico and canada would be

to the united states to say that ukraine is as essential to american military or security interest as it is to russia. i think is a very far fetch proposition, say on the subject of, of nato membership of security alliances. the russian president has said, ukraine could end this crisis or is going on way too. and in miss crisis while pledging never to enjoy nato. now for the cranium president, that would be political suicide. do you think that is something that could help the hughes this crisis and how viable is that option? how realistic could that be? well i think a present leg. i think the important thing is to continue talking that can prevent the escalation of the conflict. well,

i can't quite see how the ukranian government at present was. well, i think it's a question of west encouragements. if, if the west gave a pledge that ukraine wouldn't be offered nato membership, that i think the position of the ukrainian government that it may want to see such membership wouldn't be particularly relevant. so yes, there will be a major change your position on the part of the west and by implication, all of the ukrainian government that would, that could search. and they contribute to a diffusion of the kind of tensions in russia position all along. and these my party and the number of other parties in france and eastern european states of the position that it will be helpful. ukraine in our view,

should be a genuine buffer state between you and possibly nato on the one hand, rochelle, the other 5 buffers. state, we don't need either any you on nato's satellite, nor a russian satellite, it should mean a genuine day independent neutral stage. but if russia once you gravy, your trinity, then i think the west should consider making precisely that concession . i can't see how russia could except a cro weston ukraine. we'll just come back to that topic in related question. i just want to go back to the deployment of these troops called peacekeeping all his by russia. obviously, as we said before, the president had described them as being their potentially being there to save lives, to stabilize the region,

to keep the peace. the u. k. are the western leaders a, you leaders, the west and the us president views these as invading forces and i worry they can go further into other regions of ukraine. these are the polar opposite points of view. and just in terms of the media coverage that's been we've seen over the last few days how people supposed to figure out what's really going on with 2 such vastly differing parallel realities in place and so differently by the media. well, i think we have to distinguish on the one hand between the assessment of the actions we've seen so far and speculation about what may happen, what is certainly true is that a very tough sanctions against russia. at this point, at this dedicated point in mind could lead to an escalation of the conflict. it's

very tough. sanctions such as an exclusion of russia from the switch payment system . what impact is now then? i mean, i didn't know the size plans of the russian government, but you know, it's very tough sanctions imposed at this stage. then russia may regard this as a further provocation, and that would raise the stakes rather than defuse the situation. so i think arguably, there will be my position very, very harsh western response isn't particularly apt to reduce or take the tension out of the current situation. i think raising the stakes is a very good way of putting it. and i just want to get your opinion on just how much further state can you raise because you mention those very high sanctions that are going to be put in place. some of them have been put in place already while the u. k. parliament announcing them over the last day, all show,

gentleman johnson is saying the approval process of law stream 2 is not going to be frozen. that was really the big one, the big concern for russia. and the big debate, whether that would be included any sections, package, how, what is russia next move here? i mean, what is the next level that this situation can go through? that was really the crucial point. the sort of point of no return, wasn't it? well, not inevitably, i mean that to tough types of sanctions. one is exclusion of much. i think susan, we rational payment systems. i think we haven't seen that yet over there. talk of it. so i think backwards. all those are good estimation. on the other hand, note stream to is a very, very, a measure and the end of the certification process i think puts you

russian relations under enormous strain. i think it's a very wise, i'm wise. saudi is very unwise decision by the german government. it's a hasty decisions, but he's also self destructive decision. the german government, by freezing the certification process for north street to is harming germany more than it is harming russia. it's provocative towards russia and it is foolish in terms of germany's economic interests, but i'm afraid german modern german governments often act in this sado masochistic fashion. it's very regrettable. what do you make of president the lens keys, roland key or role in all of this? because ukraine always, they still consider these republics to be their own territory. the people in those republics to be acquainted citizens. what do you expect ukraine's next move to be?

well i think it's very difficult for i think the ukrainian government news that hidden in the event of further conflicts, perhaps a more extended conflict. it will not be able, i just missed on likely to be able to count on dyadic western military intervention . that fact alone significantly restricts the u. crane governments, ukrainian governments room for maneuver nach. so there ukraine has an interest in diffusing the tension. we've had several hearings with the ukranian ambassador in the european parliament and on the whole i see a situation hasn't been altogether unreasonable. ukrainians are very keen, i think,

to defuse the situation partly because they know the west is not a whole more aware. i'm just reading some of the, the headlines gonna coming out about parliamentary vote on the media conference. a lot of them were touching upon the fact the russian parliament has authorized president, booting to deploy troops anywhere around the world to deploy troops abroad. and this is being presented as something catastrophic and, and wild when, as you quite rightly said, if we take power l countries, powerful global power, superpower status. we've deployed troops on too many occasions to count around the world. why do you think we are seeing such a vastly different assessment of this event from a lot of west domains to media and not this reaction to deployment of the nato war american troops? well, i think the western reaction isn't particularly.