is what it says in the can this about security concerns. he's afraid of eventually missiles in ukraine, and those would be on the border. they would have under 5 minute flight times and they'll be able to hit 80 percent of russia's population. and although nobody's offering ukraine membership of night, so at the moment, you know, it could happen eventually and he's looking to once and for all fix this. and so this is resulted in a game of chicken if you like, in so much as he made those demands in the rounds of diplomacy that started in january a relatively civilized around and go to flat, know from the west. but he's not going to let this go. i mean, for him, this is an essential security question and he wants to have it resolved. and so the obvious thing to do is escalate. and that's what we've just seen. if he's getting a flat now, then he's going to restart the conversation, but by significantly escalating by threatening to hire off another piece. if you crane in the form of the mechanism best that i scanned the guns in independence.

and the tensions have gone up radically, and moreover, it's been quite clear that russia would get sanctioned as a result of this. but he's prepared because way i see he started this in 2007 and munich when he warned that russia would push back, if nicer, continued to expand and it did so. then he started modernizing the army in 2012. he sacrifice the prosperity russia build up during the boom years for this effort and build up. what is it? $630000000000.00 are reserves and insanely huge amount of money paid off the debts . the russia is one of the lowest that and made the whole economy sanction proof. and he's going to go all the way because there's very little leverage. i mean, harsh sanctions are coming. i don't believe they're actually going to hurt the economy in any significant way. they'll raise costs, they keep growth low, but he's prepared to because he's totally focused on solving the security issue.

because, you know, agree with him or not. he has be in his bonnet about nato expansion and the threat that poses. and so he's decided to do something about that. that's the reality we have to do with the boots and things like that. and i think he engage in come to some sort of deal, but it's come down to a fight between his pragmatic security concerns versus principal on europe side, about the sovereignty of nations. being able to choose who their partners are. and seeing threatened by russia, which is threatening, i mean, what he's doing is extremely aggressive. this is the most serious crisis. i think the west is phase since the cuban missile crisis and 62. well, all that shoring of this over well fund will come as a surprise, given the quote to the poor of russia. obviously, given the rise of inequality in russia over the same period, arguably, do you think, lee? and i mean, you alluded to russia not getting

a fair hearing you think? when's the lensky who had previously been saying, telling biden, and major leaders stop causing panic to the are grading and economy. do you think when he started talking about nuclear weapons positioning in your grain? that was the last. that was the last straw for food. i think the last row was when he, well my crime shows during this european effort that's been going on in february both when says in sky and told him that you need to do the means to agreement. that would so everything. and moreover, you need to on the times russia once, and that would be to make, don't bias, you know, thomas reaching, which gives russia the fact of the sort of nights. and zalinski flatly refused to do that. more of a code the means to agreements back, it's a waste of time. and i think that was the point where it's in so that that

particular possibility of getting minutes to implement because he clearly so shows an micron. but if you get minutes to implement it, then that will solve it, will be happy, will go away, you know, withdraw from the bus stop interfering with that didn't happen. and that meeting at the end of last week was and it made it clear that he wasn't going to budge on that question. then the next day, all of the problems in dumbass flat up and clearly the criminals been planning this . so the jim about in order to recognize 2 republics, this is a car, this being prepared and was played and they put it in a position to make the decision that he's just made. and i think that they've planned out the whole diplomatic effort very carefully. well, in advance, so it started with the demands in december and then you had january round of diplomacy, which is largely focused on the u. s. hoping that biden would be able to push this through. when i found them, you had to european round focused on mints too. but i think last week, zelinski definitively shut that off and said, we're not going. why would he?

i mean, the crane is run like the comedy series zelinski was in showing the ukraine to be enough to leak or up on the go run, her whole country of conspiracy, and this is like zelinski comedy series. who is, can, why would you lensky, do this to his own country than what you mean? give up the dumbass? no. why would he not abide by the men's agreements? it's a horrible deal. i mean, you're asking kids to basically give up any control over one of the regions. i mean, it becomes autonomous. and then if there's a vote for night, so session membership, then dumbass effectively gets a veto. and quite clearly with, you know, the 700000 passports that rushes handed out, half the population of that region. russia isn't effectively in control of it. so you give up the ability to make these decisions last night. succession,

which is in, you know, the aspirations join nature is now in the constitution as a national aspiration in the basic law. and then to give up the power to be able to fulfill that by basically giving control about regions of rush. although normally it stays inside ukraine, i think is something that no government would accept. well, it was about to forward you and security council by britain, russia, france, and i signed the deal. i mean, that's the problem. it's the ukrainian signed signed off and it agreed to it, but then pushing himself when, when subsequently he resisted at every stage, actually implementing it. i mean, it was forced on him by macklin on in 2014 to end the fighting that was going on and on bass. and to that extent it was so much to fight and die down. it's just been a sort of frozen conflict. although people keep dying, but it wasn't a hot conflict in the way that it was. i mean, it was, you know, a proper open warfare in those days. now it's just this frozen company. so it's

sort of lose lose situation with the minutes to that it helped bring the fighting down, but at the same time it, it doesn't. it's not an appealing solution so that they don't want to and more over people and can't say that should zelinski try and push it through. there would be mass process was also kill his own kind of career he's facing actually this year. and it's a political suicide. to try and push that through. so it's really a bad deal. but as i said, it was the only thing on the table that was the solution, the peaceful solution, unless he's rolled out. and i think quite understandably, but then push this reactive because the actual, that decision is put in, takes it to the next stage, which is not quite the invasion, the war that everyone's been talking about. but it's certainly going well be on diplomacy, you know, the regular sitting around in the pals. and i should just say, obviously london must go and washington do support means to still even moscow.

parallels with the recognition of kosovo, which russia has always criticize that kicked off. you just love you wore in the cost of it was just unilaterally recognized. right. that is western europe. well, i think so. i mean that one of the points here, i mean, one of one of the basic problems is that, you know, you have geo politics going on where big countries tell little countries what to do . and then you've got the principle, the helsinki process was a guaranteed right? to make decisions for themselves, and we only are civilized and should respect that. and the russians, i think, feel there's a certain amount of hypocrisy here. i mean, a minister brought up the cuban missile crisis, and that was very clearly you had a sovereign nation. cuba deciding to ally with his friend the soviet union and except missiles on to his territory. and jeff k just was like no exception that threatens us purity. and so the whole cuban missile crisis thing started and

pigeons arguing that what's going on with the brain is exactly the same that you've got ukraine that's being used as an unsinkable aircraft carrier mode along the shores of russia. that's going to be a permanent threat. and so big powers, and the way they just stop is that no 2 nations can do a security or that threatened the security of a 3rd country in this case, russia. and that's their argument. then we come back and saying, well, the international exchange that has them now since the process means that you should respect the sovereign right. other country, like you're trying to do a military alliance with whoever it wants to, without any interference. and so there's a basic, i think russia is obviously going to get on doris and date in venice. or in theory here in the west coast of it was an example, and it is big time, us deciding what little patterns do. so that's still the way the world works when

it suits us, when it doesn't, then we come with the principles and take off a. and the other point here is that the west deals that you know is economically, militarily superior to russia. so that it doesn't need to be pushed around, but the problem with that is that person is extremely talented at making trouble. and that's what we're seeing. i mean, biden was trying to get rid of the rush of problem to focus on china and what happened. but his entire foreign policy has been captured by russia and his entire foreign policy effort is now totally consumed with dealing with russia and had a victory and already in so much that he's put this gender on the table and bible concert more and it's not going away and the people in europe seriously worried about having a war in that backyard, which they really don't want. well, they, people in europe you speak of just seem to just supple washington all the way through and whether it's by no, jake sullivan around the blank. and i was a different different masha and i suppose the propaganda war now is all about the

fact. russia is also broken. it's agreement to the budapest agreement that it made over ukraine and respecting crane it's not why and ski brought up nuclear weapons. and so much as part of that agreement was that ukraine agreed to give up its, its weapons under budapest, in return for a territorial guarantee by russia. and he was saying there is that russia then ignored that guarantee. it gave a try. and in the, in the budapest and it's the same will if you're going to ignore your part of it, then we'll ignore our part of it and re on with nuclear weapons. it's, it's, it's right in the criticism. men are so i'll stop you that more from eastern european specialist and editor in chief of be any until the news up to this great with

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welcome back. i'm still here with been our season european specialist and editor in chief of be in the until the news now on to the actual sanctions announced by the british government. some of them just following the entities that are already sanctioned by the united states. so may i ask, why did they not sanction the murray or if you have sanctioning them who is denied eaten chain go the vulgar group? i understand that they have a 23 percent stake in nova tex russia, 2nd largest gas producer construction they own a rail company. timber infrastructure project is always going to affect many workers in russia. what were you going to mean to him? and boris rothenberg and his nephew, i go and be back there, rush his biggest ox. and moreover they belong to who to circle the incident in

a so they've known who since they were all in st. petersburg, young man and have grown up together. and then when pushing came to power, the 1st thing you did in the 1st year, you had this famous art meeting and pushed all the, all the gods out of the permanent. except these are, the gods have stepped in and they the most to call them the kings of state contracts. they win all these contracts. for example, the 4000000000 dollar bridge that was built between crimea and russia to think it's the main line was built by these guys, that construction is a bit like sako over here in britain. i mean, the oligarchs are kicked out well ones who also benefit from the shock therapy of western business consultant and the privatization that they were a corrupting influence. i mean, because these people are close to personally, i was, and some of these big stay on contracts needed to be given to someone. and so countries in a circle and in a way it was

a way of controlling corruption in so much as the other oligarchs were all charging rents and stealing and for themselves. and these guys who are multi billionaires in the mean time because they were friends with boots and he could trust them to do the right thing. and so they were paid handsome profits, but they weren't necessarily sort of filling their pockets in medicine anyway. other thoughts were so they didn't pick on them, like he picked on the ones that property that of the privatization, the, they obviously profited as well though. yeah. they did, they didn't know. i mean, you know, it's, it's, it's of nepotism at very least. i mean it's, it's an uncomfortable relationship, was these guys extremely close to put in that they go and hang out and stature that we can. but it's done now is target to the closest interest to person. and you know, they have assets in the houses and what have you, but they're so incredibly wealthy if they lose a house in grosvenor square as it gets, sees. but you take government,

it's not exactly going to bloody that, not so well that there won't be any investment, obviously, from these big companies in british infrastructure or that's all the label. there isn't, i mean, there's lots of us money coming in the real estate market. i mean, it comes up to prices, but again, according to which buying, you know, russian money in the real estate kind of 15 percent of the market. so it's not really going to have the british market but, and they don't really invest an industry in britain either. and it's more property is more lifestyle, it's them personally. but i think with the sanctions that are in britain is making a point in symbolic gesture, going off the people closest to put in. and they going to cause them inconvenience because they won't be able to go to london is going to make any difference. you don't ask and now it's not, it's symbolic. i'm going off to the banks again, it's the same sort of thing. it's going to be an inconvenience and it's because of

the ownership of those banks that are being sanctioned. but like i said before, the sanctions, i think ineffective to because russia as chris prepared is so. so the west has very little leverage over them. so what they can do is punish and annoy him, but it doesn't really go beyond that. it's not, well, i mean that's clear, you know, the view of the british government, they obviously think sanctions are a useful tool and i should say jet go all the rotten words, deny all wrong doing this might all this actions, but i mean, one of the banks problems with bank has partly been owned by the european bank reconstruction development. i don't know with people who understand that and they have millions of deposit is obviously in russia. so that means that if they have relatives here, they can send money and things like that. but that's a special case in so much is in 2017. i think it was a crisis in these books known as garden ring banks, and that was one of them. i went down and got taken over by the central bank of

russia and it's been restructured. and that one's been read to now stay and, and it's been reach us to specifically fund the defense industry. so it's the military. thank. now it, it does all the army deals and facilitates all those deals and, and russia exports $15000000000.00 worth of on year. so it's a big business. i would be to stop for escrow accounts in london for alms dealing internationally. i mean, russia, russia, so around the world, it's got huge contracts with india, with china, with brazil, with london. so what's the point of this thing? if you go off to the buying community part of the international financial system and if you block business in london, that's a serious inconvenience. i mean, it's the same with the states. if they put sanctions on the bank, then you can also sanction anybody who does business with it. and so if a u. s. sanction on a russian bank, that's an effectively a global ban on using that bank actual so that it's not stupid. i mean,

if they go after it's going to have to find another bank, right, well, of course the big story is the delay announced by a love sholtes with a it's a delay, but it's another review, isn't it? it's not actually a cancellation. well, i understand just having no stream to gas pipeline is complete, it has been since september for the gas. it could be turned on literally tomorrow. however, it was waking, waiting for the german, regulates. it's given approval has to check to make sure it's not going to be an interest assessor. and what the german government has done is removed one of the documents that gives us permission to function. and because of that document is now missing, there's an incomplete package, which means the regulator cannot approve it, it becomes impossible. so effectively they've killed it for the meantime. i mean

that there's the option of retaining this document and then it will be back on. so you can see it maybe is as a bargaining chip, so just to be clear. so while that is an aide north stream to is delayed, the gas supplying germany from russia goes to pipeline existing by blend through ukraine, north stream one in fact, no the pipeline. so there's a ukrainian or the central route that runs from western siberia through ukraine, sierra. and then as the north stream rose the northern route collection of pipelines and they were in the north stream, one runs out of the boat safe. no stream to goes alongside and that it, they are unaffected. i mean, no stream one is up and running and full capacity and has been, and nobody is complaining about. so what difference does it make to russia if the gas is still being piped through ukraine and through these baltic republics, that are old gung ho with getting into a lot of detail, the no stream pipelines that connected to the new fields in the fields and

the cranium pipe is connected to the m p t fails, which are in western siberia. now those fields almost to places and they are very old and guess from triple investment into the mpg just keep production flat, whereas yell is full, brand new fields full of gas. so russia wants to, from a business perspective, change to mal, which is a 100 years with gas, whereas the b team with inside there's about to run out of gas and, and more time scale. i don't know, 5 years. i mean, like i say that the investment going into those fields to keep producing is going up and up and up. so it becomes less and less profitable. whereas the m l feels with brand new pipelines are extremely profitable. so just from a business perspective, russia wants to switch to these new fields. and the problem is that you can, the mount fields are not connected to the new cranium,

but you can sell and send this oxy gas through the cranium, but we'd have to build a whole bunch of interconnections which don't exist. or these 2 are a smaller than the short term in the short term, the guess is just flowing through grain from russia. yeah, no, most of it is going through well known stream and there's another northern pipeline . so there's about 40000000 cubic meters going through ukraine, and then there's another 100. there's going through these other pipelines to know they've got ukraine on the minimum now. and the training system could carry 150. so it's being used at the absolute minimum by russia, as part of a political process of like trying to get everyone this way. everyone's 10 law stream to on, which will totally take up all of the volumes that are going through your brain at the moment. could be if you had no stream to working, then there would be no gas going through kind of so overseas ukrainian economy

already suffering. don't you believe they would say, and the russian economy being helped by the spiking oil prices. what do you saying about our journalists in this country, and what are you saying about the role of this information oversee ukraine is closed down 5 channels. so you can start with and a believe they want to close this channel down all around the world. what is the role of information and how should we and people watching this program understand media coverage of this conflict? problem is with the senior ukraine. my story in particular is that it's becoming very emotional. you know, we had like 20 years or less 15 years of demonizing goods. and which itself is become a great story that you know, the edison believe lying even puts in south papers which is probably true to an extent. but the objectivity to some extent has gone out the window because various races have developed. and those were narratives get fed and then again, a lot, you know, then the number of foreign correspondents in moscow is very small. a lot of people

are writing about russia from the outside, but then what they do, what they know, their entire background is based on the rates that they've had. you know, what we do is we have, we, you know, we left that we work there and we trying to balance story and there's lots of good things that happens and puts in, has doubled the size of the economy. incomes have gone from $10.00 a month when he took her to same level is learned at the you the most prosperous of all of the former soviet union countries that didn't join the years. so there's been successes. but at the same time, you know, he is who he is former k to be off up in the soviet union. and so he's this figure sort of caught between these 2 wells at the same time on the other sides because of the decaying relationships that he's being progressively demonized. so we have this expression puts in russia in so much is the implication is there a country belongs to him and he runs it like is up and he's aggressive and k g, b,

and shoot journalists and crushes the opposition. and some of that stuff does happen is not entirely reform country because that's the no rates. if he gets told and the other stuff, the success is the transformation gets ignored. some of the business press to it. but when you look at the market, the market overweight in russia has been so recently market love, russia. so, but back stories are contained within banking. so that, that's all seen as propaganda, as you know, better. thank you. and that's it for the show will be back on saturday. 10 years to the day on the 17 year old treyvon, martin was gone down by george zimmerman who was later acquitted smoking mass protest and the beginning of the black lives matter movement. until then, he would talk to a social media and let us know what you think there will be now a full scale war in europe. ah,

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