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office, all of them all coming up and today's going underground. the 1st today, the international court of justice is holding initial hearings in a case brought by ukraine against russia over accusations of genocide. ukraine is looking to establish the russian claims that its neighbor has committed acts of genocide in the hands condone yesco false. and that therefore, russia cannot legally claim to be intervening to prevent or punish ukraine. this is u. k. p. and boss johnson accuses russia of committing war crimes. joining me now from miami, florida is madame benjamin, the co founder of grassroots, anti war and geo code pink. thank you so much for coming back on. you know, you been campaigning against nature wars for decades. do you think vladimir putin is actually now united the world behind nato, nato, the organization that you been so critical of for years? absolutely. we were looking forward to the june meeting in nato that is happening in madrid, organizing around it, saying, you know,

this is the time to really take the air out of nato to show that after afghanistan in the fiasco there. that nato is really an aggressive military alliance. that is looking towards china now and saying that china is a threat and really is, is looking for a purpose. and thanks to booting now, nato has its purpose. it's more united than ever. we were criticizing action so much how the u. s. was pushing the nato countries to fulfill the goal of spending 2 percent of their gross domestic product on military. and so many of our friends in the nato countries were fighting that and saying, no, we need that money at home. and suddenly that's all vanished into thin air. and those nato countries have and now announced huge increase in military spending. so this is a huge tragedy for the people of ukraine and for the entire world. anybody who

thought we might get a peace dividend after afghanistan has now been all of our hopes. dashed, thanks to put in the aggression on ukraine. why though, do you believe it's impossible for the media in nature? countries not to realize that this war is actually been going on for 8 years. the media has no historical memory and really is always in the west, ready to criticize those that they see is the enemy. and let's also face, and i mean we have in the u. s. anti war movement been pushing the media to cover the war in yemen, the disastrous war that's been going on for 7 years. in fact, we had a protest outside the headquarters in washington, dc of cnn and saying, what about the m and more and we want to see that coverage. we want to hear about

it. we want to understand, well, why the u. s. continues to supply weapons to saudi arabia that are killing children every day in yemen. so the media has not been very objective about covering wars, but i am glad that they are covering this war and ukraine. people have to see how horrific war is. and maybe they'll understand that all war is horrible. well, joe biden has previously expressed disquiet about the weapon sales by the united states. obviously, not so much disclaimer here in britain for its role in the yemen war. and cnn probably say, well, that's a nato ally area your of this is why news from ukraine. let's take precedence over a wall where the u. n says 370 some 1000 been killed in recent years in yemen. unfortunately, the u. s. government and the bible ministration says that it's going to stop who

often said weapon sales to the saudis. but what does that mean? it doesn't mean anything. the u. s. is still involved in the war in yemen. and i want to mention afghanistan, because i'm just heartbroken. that after 20 years of nato militarism in afghanistan with this horrific exit, the african people's money has been stolen by mostly the united states. $7000000000.00. and that's one of the poorest countries in the world. and so we're working hard to get that money back to the afghan people. and we're also very concerned about the sanctions on russia hurting ordinary people because we've seen that's what sanctions around the world do. they affect the entire economy and who is it who is impacted the most? it is working people. we seem for 60 years, how the u. s. has imposed horrific sanctions on cuba. it hasn't changed the cuban

government, but it's caused such hardship for the cuban people. yeah, but the united states, as it's fighting terrorism, obviously in yemen, you don't have to be a major general or a person in power in nature. countries to say, all of russia must be punished, it's sad, but they just have to be punished as regards them. well, perhaps even food, who knows that when it comes to the invasion. well, that's just wrong. i mean, the ordinary people have no say over their government. look at the thousands of very brave people who are coming out on the streets in russia to protest. there was governments war and say not in our name, are those people should not be hurt by it. so sanctions are a kind of economic warfare, and unfortunately, they don't hurt the people in power. i think it's fine to go after the oligarchs in russia. take your yachts, take your mansions, please do, but don't impose sanctions that are going to make people have

a difficult time putting food on their plates or getting medicines. yeah, i think you've campaign before against russian oligarchs, before the current sudden decision by everyone to realize the money was stolen from the russian people. what do you think of the arguments though? as you, as you talk about peace made in russian, russian think tank circles and people who pro the redman saying. but, you know, russia did sort of piece in the, going to carry back between now media as a by john, in georgia, in syria after all the u. s. interventions. this is just merely trying to critique your piece in ukraine after the killing of 14000 people in these provinces is a piece operation. oh, come on. when you see hundreds of thousands of people leading. when you see that kind of destruction that's going on, this is not a piece operation. this isn't a offensive illegal invasion of another sovereign

country. it is absolutely wrong. and i think all peace activist, those of us who stand up against the invasion of iraq against the invasion of afghanistan, those of us who stand up against the u. s. supplying of weapons to dictatorships, like egypt or the israeli apartheid regime. we have to be consistent and we have to be against this invasion as well. i call on all peace activists or people who are, are just a peace loving people throughout the world to get around the streets and to join in demonstrations. and in our actions, we say withdraw the russian troops, we say ceasefire. now we also say no nato expansion, because we think that's absolutely essential when it comes to the negotiating table . and there are ongoing negotiations and there have to be more what is going to be compromised between the 2 sides. on the u. s. nato side, there has to be a compromise. it says we will not allow ukraine to be part of nato. i wish that

there were people now like in the, by the ministration saying that i wish they would be saying we've got to get serious about nuclear weapons and the world that should be terrified right now. that russia's nuclear weapons are on high alert. but it should also be a moment where we say, why haven't we forced the world, the world's leaders who have nuclear weapons to comply with their obligations there now is a nuclear band treaty at the united nations. and this should be a moment where we say we demand as a community of people who do not want to see our globe annihilated by nuclear weapons. that there be a serious end to nuclear weapons by all the nuclear states were indeed russia was saying that the ripping up of some of those nuclear goods is part of the reason for the invasion, which as you say, and as the humans agreed, general says is inexcusable, or was he israel,

would you mention that denies isn't about, i'd say, despite whatever and yos like yourselves, are amnesty international say actually come to think of it. what did you think of israel voting with the u. s. at the un general assembly, the u. s. i don't know when the last time the u. s. has paid attention to the un general assembly, but what did you think of israel voting with the us about how this occupation should be deplored? well, of course they always vote with the us, but there certainly is also a moment to talk about the invasion and occupation of other people's lands. we have to look at the israelis actions for decades now in palestine. and it's interesting that so many in the social media putting out videos that show the tremendous repression and, and beating, and explosions, and the west bank and comparing it to what the russians are doing. we think this is a time where all aggression should be exposed. and i only hope

that as we work towards demanding negotiations in a settlement, in the case of ukraine, that we also look at ongoing work in other places and demand the same thing an end to war. why do you think that boy core divestment sanctions movement failed when it comes to the illegal occupation in palestine mandated under you in deletion? and yet, as we know from the cultural sector which is being manned across europe, and in the 2 countries from russia, it seems to work almost instantly in a football match. it no longer is it considered it wrong to put the ukraine flag on the pitch. whereas once it was wrong to put the palestinian flag football pitch to express already. yes, we are find it very hypocritical that there has been so many attacks on the b b. s . movement in the western countries saying that it is not fair to attack the entire

country of israel that that is anti semitic. and then suddenly it's ok to attack people who want to compete in the special olympics as if those people had something to do with pollutants. invasion, so there's a lot of hypocrisy on all sides, but let me be clear, i think that it is a positive thing that the world community is coming together and saying stop this invasion, looking at ways that we can through non violence. i look at the way that the russian people came and stopped the tanks from a getting into the largest nuclear plant in europe, that's in ukraine. and that was quite inspirational. and i think it would be wonderful if people in neighboring countries rose up non violently and went to the borders around russia. and i demanded an end to the fighting. just as people are reaching out to all of those refugees who so deserve our support. and speaking of

refugees, so new, all refugees deserve our support, whether they're coming from country where people have white skin and blonde hair, or they're coming from countries in africa or their country coming from countries on the southern border here in the united states where they have been ripped apart from their fam plays, and at times put in cages, we should welcome all refugees who are fleeing from violence. yeah. as regards the tanks by the nuclear facility, getting there, answer the questions in ukraine. but as far as we hear from authorities in the use of the said, but these are refugees, the, the ones of different colors are migrants. yes, it's a horrible separation to make. and i think the world has seen the terrible racism from the people of color in ukraine that have had such a hard time leaving the country. but i think it also does show the hypocrisy of

making it so difficult for people of color who tried to flee, even in the case of afghanistan, where you would think that the u. s. and all the nato countries would feel a tremendous obligation to take people from afghanistan in the immediate aftermath of the withdrawal. and they said they were going to, but then they've gone back on their promises and it's become very difficult for afghans who worked with the nato forces to even leave the country where they have been doing. thank you. the bleakest warning yet on climate change that is close to irreversible. we talk to an i v c. c author about the latest reporting to how humanity may and even if there isn't nuclear war. awesome. all can we have about 2 of going underground? ah ah no,

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release of the new i, b. c. c report. it examines how humanity is entering uncharted territory in the climate crisis. joining me now from cape town to discuss that report is one of its old does lux on volk go. thanks so much luck on for coming on. you know, obviously here in your people are talking about babs, no immediate deliverable future on this continent. i know you specialize in africa, but that how rapidly closing is the window to secure a livable future? as it says in the late as i d z assessment 1st, i think maybe to just give it big grant or no, the key findings bomb. i recently, parties are these accumulative cent if given dens and is an equal for cow and turn clemens charges of threats to humanity and a human or being and a we have a very limited and the rapidly closing air window and

rapidly closer to zoom into that i would say the tend to act is now, so i can give you like the exact time, but we, the time for the global to act is now now or never. now course, who is this is an area where they have said that they have said that before. i mean share prices, booming and weapons companies. there's all the talk of world war 3. is it difficult for the i p c. c. and it's authors to get this information out there in the media at this time. i think our assessment in a piece is here. we are only so informative and in our let no not policy prescriptive. so our hope is that a, the government will take the message to the people that governments will take action at all levels. so we hope that 3 or 4 in every day planning

decision making, the governments are going to consider these, this defending for my pcc. so the report says, no region inhabited by humans will be unaffected. up to 3600000000 people are now vulnerable. i mean, climate change this year will kill wound or displace people. i mean the anger anderson of the you in environmental program saying it's already upon us raining down, blows on billions of people. yeah, that's true and say one thing to one key important thing to notice in the distribution of the impact is an event. so it all depends on how regions are moving, pete, to adapt, but i can, i can give the exact number of the people that are going to be displayed. but what the climate change is doing is increasing the possibilities of these migrations of

these movements. oil that i thought it or that her directly from, from the environment. so i can give the exact numbers by t as, as it is now every jellies days and a thread. a how creek are we moving in to egg or to decide would depend on who actually determines or how fun at a bow reaches to the climate change. although many enemies of the i, b, c, c in africa. are there any vested interests against the i p c. c? and what this report says about what needs to be done, i can say the enemies, but i, i couldn't speak off opportunities that are coming up or from this report as it says, there's so many opportunities in our, the next as between an edge development, a war to issues,

image issues. so i think to africa, visit what is presenting another opportunity for many kids who have been sick does and t, if the court has to come together to make sure that her people are acting immune it . so yeah, a speak more for opportunities that are presented. okay, you don't want to talk about you do want to talk about the enemies but the i b c. c report. this latest one says, forget any idea of mirrors in the sky, the deflect, sunshine of machines to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. those technological means are not going to save the human race. it is going to be, as you say. so socio economic restructuring and societal restructuring of how humans deal with each other. i can't dismiss that technology, but in every, every step, every action is important towards

a juicy or the extent of these impact. so any action or yeah, in a chin towards that juicy that impact of climate change is will come and fe. that's what this report is telling us that well, no, it is not okay. let in late isn't saying that is it at all? it saying specifically that some technological or ways to stop climate change or wrong says so in the report i would want to wait in and say, and i think, i mean literally there are many technological, her developments that her being in place or that are being proposed by a stick or dies by governments that are making sure that we move towards that if you're seeing and the global warming to 1.5. so every action is, is very important. empty, we now i and we already,

we won't be very clear where we're 1.5. the report says the earth can only survive $1.00 for a very short period could be retrievable. but even at 1.5, just for a medium term, it will trigger feedback loops with sure could, i suppose. and the human race, i would say right now, and even at $1.00 and from many african perspective, we are facing a order angel ah, impacts that are causing so much damage loss and damage to our economies to our society. so i am, we said to make sure that t we eggs now to avoid day are the possibilities of reaching 1.5 or to a degree. so that's why we are calling to we are calling us to court as and, and governments in particular to act now. but from what you're saying,

then there's no difference really from the last to says what? i mean, the secretary general says delay is death and he hasn't read a report like this. we are saying we've got to act now. they've been saying go to act now for for years there's no difference. and obviously, every time the i p c. c, releases a report. the temperature goes up. every time, every cop summit, the temperature goes up. i mean, is it time to abolish the i, b, c, c of it's all it can say is we have to act now in this kind of watery language. no, that's why i said it's not all doom and grandma in my 1st line because it is. and if evidence is presenting to us that of course they are watching what i call challenges or implants that i'd gotten from the increase for me. but the, they are big takeaways where the well, these adapting. but what we are thing right now is that rate and to speed at which

we are adapting is not a matching a credit, which is a climate is moving. so the idea now or the way forward is to a tab or in a much increase a rate than what it than what countries do right now. so i think that's, that's a big takeaway in the say, a very big statement in terms of giving hope to, to the people from african to the world. there, there are food banks here in london, 40000000 need food stamps in the united states to eat tonight. how prepared is africa to cope with the, as it says in the report, the health problems, the homelessness, the disease that we will expect as these temperatures rise, i would say for africa, considering that we are hosting the 27 this year. we are hoping that a,

the message to move forward will move towards the increasing or climate adaptation. we share in africa. we are already adapting, but we hope to increase or to yeah, to, to increase the pace at which the economies of countries adoptee. but a yeah, of course the bless bye to key sectors such as the hills, the food sector, water sector are right now, facing most plans from climate change and day. many, many africans of african citizens. they're facing foot foot surgery, so she begins and moving forward. this my day because i better by fed that t as interests were me productivity. i mean, aggregate productivity, which is a key factor to, to, to the african economy will be affected. so we hope that the, the action or the time for gen african government would be now,

do you expect more environmental catastrophes or whether it be fires, hurricane psych loans before cop $27.00 in november in egypt. i can, i can see if specific number of the pro fees that we are expecting, but the, the uncertainty is very high right now. i can give you, i mean, from experience we had kept on browse that pleasant for 3 years. we had, we sent the flyers in zimbabwe more than big bay for floods intake and give you the also it is in floods in san diego. so young they are, they are most of that entities in their high chance that are we making a visit for climate impacts. i mean browse floods in. ready the coming years ago, but i can say the exact number, i mean before, like a prince of it, like sort of go thank you and that's for the show. we will be back on wednesday

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ah ah ah, ah hello and welcome to crosstalk. were all things considered on funeral labelle, russia, special military operation in ukraine continues. this is widely agreed upon. beyond that media reporting on this conflict could not be more polarized and politicized. in the west, this conflict is black and white. good versus evil. no context is provided which of course is done on purpose. ah.